Nature Preserve Commission
Regular MeetingAndover, MN · May 10, 2017
Minutes
REGULAR ANDOVER OPEN SPACE ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING
MAY 10, 2017
MINUTES
The Regular Meeting of the Andover Open Space Advisory Commission was called to order by
Acting Chairperson Kim Kovich at 6:02 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown
Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present: Joy Faherty, Aaron Jarson, Jim Olson
Commissioners absent: Chairperson Gretchen Sabel and Commissioners Rebecca
Dahlberg and Anna Dirkswager
Also present: Kameron Kytonen, Natural Resources Technician
RESIDENT FORUM
No one wished to address the Commission.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES – March 8, 2017
Motion by Commissioner Olson, Second by Commissioner Jarson, to approve the minutes of
March 8, 2017. Motion passed 3-0 (Faherty present).
DISCUSS AGENDA FOR JOINT MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL
Mr. Kytonen displayed the agenda for the joint meeting tonight with the Council which will
immediately follow this meeting.
Commissioner Olson stated that perhaps a verbal summary could be done for the Management
Plans.
Commissioner Jarson stated that perhaps a statement is made that the Management Plans lead
into the CIP which would lead directly into the next agenda item.
Acting Chairperson Kovich stated that perhaps a summary of each open space area is given,
switching the term open space to preserve.
Commissioner Olson stated that originally, he was against changing the term from open space to
preserve but after the discussion with the Park Commission members he did support the change
to preserve as it better fits the intent of the property.
Commissioner Faherty agreed that preserve is more fitting as the term open space was a bit
confusing.
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It was the consensus of the Commission to begin with Martin’s Meadows and go through the
different areas, giving a brief summary of the Management Plan and CIP items for each area,
which would combine the first and second agenda items together.
Commissioner Olson suggested printing out copies of the open space comprehensive priority list,
which will help provide guidance as the summaries are reviewed for each area.
The Commission reviewed the items on the open space comprehensive priority list.
Mr. Kytonen noted that trail maintenance and sign installation is needed for Maple View and
advised that those items can be done with in-house staff. He noted that a kiosk would also be
helpful as that preserve has a lot of deer ticks and therefore educational information would be
helpful.
It was the consensus of the Commission that rather than open each Management Plan, they
would instead open a map of each area when providing an overview.
DISCUSS RESULTS OF CONVERSATIONS WITH PROPERTY OWNERS WHO LIVE
ADJACENT TO DALSKE WOODLANDS
Mr. Kytonen stated that he met with an adjacent property owner on Monday to review the
concerns regarding the entrance and how it does not seem welcoming to visitors. He stated that
they both agreed that additional signage along the road would be helping, guiding people to the
entrance of the open space. He stated that a brown entrance sign was posted to the right of the
entrance but that is being blocked by a tree and will then be moved to a more visible area on its
own post. He stated that the property owner would like to keep the no trespassing signs on the
trail to keep people off his property. He noted that the signs could discourage people from using
the open space.
Acting Chairperson Kovich stated that perhaps the City could offer to create and post a sign that
states private property to post on the adjacent properties rather than the existing signs that could
be discouraging.
Commissioner Faherty stated that perhaps it would be more helpful for the City to create signs
guiding people to the open space rather than offering to post additional no trespassing signs.
Mr. Kytonen stated that they could post guiding signs along the open space to help guide visitors
and encourage them to stay on the open space property.
Commissioner Olson asked where visitors will park.
Mr. Kytonen stated that topic did come up as the neighbor did not want people to park blocking
his driveway.
Commissioner Olson stated that perhaps signage could be installed stating park here for the open
space on the north side which would guide people away from the driveway.
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Mr. Kytonen stated that in summary it was a good meeting and the neighbor was receptive to the
wishes of the Commission and was very cooperative. He stressed the importance of having a
good relationship with the neighbors of the open space areas.
Commissioner Faherty asked if the dust from the roadway will be a problem.
Mr. Kytonen stated that he will keep that on the radar.
DISCUSS AGENDA FOR JOINT MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL (CONTINUED)
Mr. Kytonen reviewed the items on the priority list for Dalske Woodlands.
Commissioner Jarson left the meeting at 6:35 p.m.
Acting Chairperson Kovich noted that Dalske needs trails, signs, vegetation management, and
access needs to be improved.
Mr. Kytonen stated that trails will occur before vegetation management as the trails needs to be
determined before you will know where to maintain vegetation.
Acting Chairperson Kovich noted that the road signage should be the highest priority for Dalske.
DISCUSSION OF GRANT OPPORTUNITIES
Mr. Kytonen stated that he has nothing new to report. He stated that there is still the opportunity
with Great River Greening to manage the central wetland and advised that the project will be
packaged with other opportunities Great River Greening is seeking.
DISCUSSION OF REBRANDING OF OPEN SPACES
Acting Chairperson Kovich confirmed the consensus of the Commission that open space should
be replace with the term “preserve.”
KIOSK SIGNAGE UPDATE
Mr. Kytonen stated that Commissioner Faherty has done a lot of work on the kiosk signage.
Commissioner Faherty stated that she has created drafts for two of the kiosk and noted that
before printing they can add the term preserve to each name. She stated that she has created a
template of the format that she can use to create posters for the other kiosks in the future. She
stated that for Maple View it was more difficult to find the historical information and site
features to list. She stated that she received the ecological assessment of the open space and was
able to pull information from that list that she thought people would recognize and have interest
in.
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Mr. Kytonen stated that each Commissioner could review the draft and then provide feedback
and suggestions for inclusion.
Acting Chairperson Kovich stated that there is not a kiosk for that open space yet and therefore
there is no rush. He stated that he does like the format for the two complete draft posters.
Commissioner Faherty stated that the poster is meant to be a welcome with some brief
information. She stated that the existing kiosks are three sided and therefore she has begun work
on a poison ivy flyer that could be included to educate visitors. She referenced the ecological
features that are mentioned in the draft posters and noted that on another side of the kiosk they
could display photographs of those features and visitors could try to find the features while they
are visiting the site. She noted that the example pictures she has are copyrighted and therefore
she encouraged the Commissioners to take and share pictures that they could use in the kiosk.
She confirmed that the same format could be used in each kiosk and that would provide
consistency throughout the different open space areas. She asked where she would be able to
obtain historical information on Maple View and Dalske Woodlands.
Mr. Kytonen stated that staff can look into it to see what they can find.
Commissioner Olson stated that the County plat would have the historical information of
ownership.
Acting Chairperson Kovich stated that Oak Grove may have information on Dalske because of
the public land.
Mr. Kytonen stated that he believes that land is owned by the State for wildlife management.
Commissioner Faherty stated that she will stop into the historical society in Anoka in attempt to
find information and asked staff to provide any contacts they may have.
Mr. Kytonen stated that a Scout reached out and is interested in constructing a kiosk at Maple
View.
Commissioner Faherty stated that currently there is one vertical and one horizontal and the
Commission should decide which layout they prefer going forward. She stated that horizontal
may be easier for people of all heights to see the information.
Acting Chairperson Kovich thanked Commissioner Faherty for all the work she has done on the
kiosk posters.
OTHER BUSINESS
a. Next Meeting: July 12, 2017 at 6:00 p.m.
Acting Chairperson Kovich noted that Funfest is also held in July.
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Mr. Kytonen asked if the Commission would like to do a site visit anywhere this summer.
Acting Chairperson Kovich stated that it would be nice to visit Dalske.
It was the consensus of the Commission to walk Dalske at 6:00 p.m. and meet at City Hall at
7:00 p.m.
Acting Chairperson Kovich noted that if Funfest is before the next meeting they will need to
email out a sign-up sheet to staff the booth.
Mr. Kytonen stated that he will email out a sign-up sheet to the Commission members in the next
month to determine staffing for the booth.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Olson, Second by Commissioner Faherty, to adjourn the meeting at
6:58 p.m. Motion passed 3-0.
Respectfully submitted,
Kameron Kytonen
Natural Resources Technician
Drafted by:
Amanda Staple, Recording Secretary
Agenda
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Andover Open Space Advisory Commission
Meeting Agenda
May 10, 2017
Andover City Hall
Conference Room A&B
6:00 p.m.
1. Call to Order
2. Resident Forum
3. Approval of Minutes: March 8, 2017 Regular Meeting
4. Discuss agenda for joint meeting with City Council
5. Discussion of grant opportunities
6. Discussion of Rebranding of Open Spaces
7. Kiosk signage update
8. Discuss results of conversations with property owners who live adjacent to Dalske
Woodlands
9. Other Business
a. Next meeting: July 12, 2017 at 6:00 pm?
10. Adjournment
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