Mayor & Commission Meetings
Regular MeetingAthens-Clarke County, GA · March 3, 2022
Minutes
LEGISLATIVE REVIEW COMMITTEE
Thursday, March 3, 2022
Via WebEx
Committee Members Present: Committee Members Absent:
Commissioner Russell Edwards, Chair
Commissioner Jesse Houle
Commissioner Carol Myers *Arrived at 1:28 p.m. and left at 2:16 p.m.
Commissioner Ovita Thornton *Left meeting at 1:48 p.m.
Commissioner Allison Wright
Staff:
Niki Jones, Assistant Manager Andrew Saunders, Central Services
Sherrie Hines, Chief Assistant Attorney Gavin Hassemer, Central Services
Lisa Pappas, Assistant Attorney Jeanne Connell, Central Services
Deborah Gonzalez, District Attorney Kent Kilpatrick, Leisure Services
C.R. Chisholm, Solicitor General Alex Bond, Leisure Services
Harrison Daniel, Police Department Doug Hansford, Building Permit & Inspections
Suki Janssen, Solid Waste Sarah George, Recorder
Nancy Flowers, Solid Waste
Visitor:
John Donnelly, Circuit Public Defender
Commissioner Edwards called the meeting to order at 1:01 p.m.
A. Approval of Minutes:
The February 3, 2022 minutes were approved with no objection.
Commission Identified Items of Interest:
B. Examine marijuana penalty options that could be embedded in local ordinance as an
alternative to state charges. (Mayor Girtz assigned to LRC on February 1, 2022)
Assistant Manager Niki Jones introduced the topic by reviewing the Mayor’s charge. He also
explained staff had prepared a comparative analysis of nine municipalities within the state of
Georgia, and he reviewed the findings. Deputy Chief Harrison Daniel also shared data from
ACCPD. From 2018-2021, ACCPD made a total of 291 arrests for misdemeanor marijuana (less
than 1 oz.). Deputy Chief Daniel noted that 23% of the cases were misdemeanor marijuana
arrests as the sole charge, and the 291 misdemeanor marijuana arrests represent around 2% of
total arrests between 2018 and 2021. He shared that there was a significant drop in the number
of misdemeanor marijuana arrests between 2019 and 2020, which coincides with the introduction
of the State of Georgia’s 2019 Georgia Hemp Farming Act (hemp law).
Commissioner Edwards requested clarification on why the number of arrests dropped off so
precipitously following the introduction of the hemp law. Deputy Chief Daniel explained that
ACCPD did not have any meaningful way to test the level of THC in substances in order to
distinguish them from legalized hemp to prosecute them, so ACCPD decided as a practice,
which was also mirrored across the state, to pivot on making arrests on misdemeanor marijuana.
He did note that they continue to charge for felony cases or issue a warrant after they were able
to distinguish it. Commissioner Houle requested confirmation that the data shown was just data
from ACCPD and did not include data from other departments operating in the same jurisdiction.
Deputy Chief Daniel confirmed that the data was only ACCPD data.
Niki Jones introduced Solicitor General C.R. Chisholm. Solicitor Chisholm shared that his office
has received six cases where the only charge was misdemeanor marijuana between 2020 and
2021. One of these cases was an arrest, three cases were citations, one case was a UGAPD
arrest, and one case was a Georgia State Patrol (GSP) arrest for misdemeanor marijuana;
however, all six of these cases were dismissed by the Solicitor’s Office. He explained that these
cases at this point are not prosecutable, because we cannot distinguish between whether the
substance is hemp or marijuana; to do so, we would have to have some type of testing of the
THC. He shared a list of pros and cons for a marijuana ordinance, assuming a marijuana
ordinance is prosecutable. Pros included the following:
No arrest for violating the ordinance;
No potential jail time;
Minimal fine or community service; and
Time and cost savings for law enforcement, prosecutors, court, and probation.
Solicitor Chisholm also shared that when the cases are dismissed, they are dismissed with
restriction. Commissioner Houle requested clarification as to whether or not there were still cases
coming through the Solicitor’s Office based on arrest even though the cases cannot be
prosecuted. Solicitor Chisholm explained that there has only been one arrest from ACCPD, one
arrest from Georgia State Patrol, and one arrest from UGAPD; he noted that people are not
being arrested, because the officers are aware that we cannot prosecute this charge right now.
He explained that he is not sure why those three particular officers made those arrests and
charges at that time, but, by and large, officers are aware that they cannot make that charge. If a
charge is made, the Solicitor’s Office has to dismiss it.
Solicitor Chisholm reviewed some cons for a marijuana ordinance and shared that the need for
the ordinance has diminished, given the purpose of the ordinance was trying to minimize the
impact the misdemeanor marijuana charge had on citizens. At this point, we are not prosecuting
the charge, and he shared that he does not anticipate this going away in the near future. Public
Defender John Donnelly asked if ACCPD was anticipating purchasing equipment to test
substances. Solicitor Chisholm shared that they were not to his knowledge. Deputy Chief Daniel
explained that the Georgia Bureau of Investigation has taken steps to create a test to be able to
distinguish hemp from marijuana; while from a technical standpoint they can test for it, they are
reserving that testing for felony cases only and will not test it as a practical matter for
misdemeanor cases. He also noted that ACCPD has not explored acquiring any testing
technology to distinguish it. Cons included the following:
Creating an ordinance during a time when misdemeanor marijuana cases are not
prosecutable could send a mixed message to law enforcement;
Pleading guilty and paying a fine to an ordinance will still result in a criminal conviction
that is a public record in the Clerk’s Office;
A conviction under a marijuana ordinance still requires the Clerk’s Office to report the
conviction to GCIC;
Minimal cost savings due to already low number of cases;
Minimal time savings to law enforcement, because state statute already provides for a
“cite and release” option;
Minimal time savings to prosecutors and the court because of low case numbers, and
cases don’t go to trial;
Enforcing a preempted ordinance; and
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A municipal ordinance is not enforceable by UGAPD or GSP. Could result in disparate
outcomes.
Commissioner Wright requested further elaboration on the point that a municipal ordinance is not
enforceable by UGAPD or GSP and inquired about what ACCGov could do that they could join in
on regarding enforcement. Solicitor Chisholm explained that the GSP and UGAPD are only
operating on state statutes, and they do not have any control or jurisdiction over municipal
ordinances. Commissioner Houle requested clarification on whether or not, even if an arresting
officer is citing the state statute, the local ordinance could be cited when it comes to court.
Solicitor Chisholm explained that has happened in the past when all parties agreed and could
happen in the future; however, he noted that even if it is a local ordinance violation, they would
still dismiss the case due to the current hemp law. Commissioner Houle explained that they are
encouraged to hear how things are currently going, but, if they can legislatively advance
something that ensures it continues to go in a similar way even if those other things change, they
see that as valuable. They also shared that if these other law enforcement agencies, like GSP or
UGAPD, continue making arrests or issuing charges, having a local ordinance on the books
would enable the attorneys on the defense and prosecution to bear that in mind when negotiating
how to move forward. Solicitor Chisholm confirmed that it can happen, but he also noted that,
even if there is a municipal ordinance, the conviction is still reported to GCIC under the state
statute.
Solicitor Chisholm explained that he believes a marijuana ordinance would have limited, if any,
utility. He explained that the Mayor and Commission could absolutely pass an ordinance, and it
is ultimately their decision; however, if they did pass an ordinance, a con to that would be that it
would send mixed messages to law enforcement. Currently, law enforcement have been told that
misdemeanor marijuana is not a prosecutable charge. If a local ordinance is passed, some may
interpret that to mean it can now be prosecuted through the local ordinance. He explained that
this could be resolved through training to police officers. Solicitor Chisholm also noted that, if
training is not supplied to all officers, there could be a situation where they issue a ticket to an
individual, mistakenly believing that they could, and the person pays for the ticket at the ticket
window; this would result in the person having a conviction for a misdemeanor marijuana charge.
The Solicitor’s Office would do their best to try to catch all of these instances before they
happened, because they would still want it dismissed to prevent people from paying fines for
things that cannot be proven.
Commissioner Edwards requested clarification from Solicitor Chisholm on whether or not it is his
position that, if we adopt something like a parallel ordinance that creates a ticket-able charge for
marijuana possession, it might actually increase enforcement and charges. Solicitor Chisholm
explained that he did not know if it will cause an increase in numbers, but he could understand
where an officer might believe it would be ok to charge the local ordinance; he suggested that it
would requiring information and training be provided to police officers to explain that the charge
is still not prosecutable, but the ordinance was put on the books in case one day it becomes
prosecutable. Commissioner Thornton explained that, while we like being proactive, she is
concerned that creating an ordinance that may do the opposite of what is intended may confuse
people. She shared that originally the discussion around marijuana was regarding people getting
arrested and not being able to bail out; however, it seems that has changed substantially. She
shared that she does not believe they should be going down the lane of creating an ordinance at
this point, and they can revisit it should it become an issue in the future.
John Donnelly shared that he is not aware of any additional bureaucracy that would be created
as a result of an ordinance, and he also noted that he does not know that it would send a mixed
message to law enforcement. From his perspective, he shared that, if ACCGov passed an
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ordinance, it would be an indication that ACCGov does not want to criminalize user amounts of
marijuana if it becomes legally prosecutable. It would likely be a minimal amount of training to
police officers to communicate that it is still not a prosecutable offense and is only on the books
in case it is needed in the future. He explained that the Solicitor’s Office can still work to dismiss
the charges if citations are issued by police. Solicitor Chisholm explained that they would, and,
hopefully, it would be done prior to the individual paying it. Commissioner Edwards explained
that, once the ticket is paid, the individual is admitting guilt, and the charge will go on their
criminal history.
Commissioner Houle explained that they are not worried about our ability to train our people;
ACCPD does a good job of training its people. They could also get the word out through the
courts and to the clerks, so there is information there for when someone is about to pay a citation
to make them aware of other options available to them. They noted that, if they move forward
with this, there is a way that they can also make sure that the directive is given to the Manager to
make sure all applicable staff are aware of the intention behind this. They also shared that the
improvement that is seen in the data over the past couple of years is thanks to some gaps in
state law and existing equipment that may not always exist. They believe this is an opportunity
for the Mayor and Commission to address that, and the greater confusion is with the public, who
see a long list of cities in Georgia that have decriminalized, and ACC has not.
Commissioner Edwards inquired about how introducing a parallel ordinance could impact the
records of individuals previously convicted of this charge, if at all, and if any sort of records
restriction or modification be implicated by a change in the law like this. Solicitor Chisholm
explained that individuals can get up to two restrictions for misdemeanor convictions; if the
individual chooses a conviction under this ordinance to be one that is restricted, it would be one
of the two that the individual could have restricted. John Donnelly shared that he does not
believe this would have any effect on the existing ability to restrict records.
Commissioner Myers inquired as to whether or not other jurisdictions were running into the same
issue that was noted by Solicitor Chisholm. She also noted that John Donnelly shared that some
citations are court only, meaning the person cannot simply pay it off at the ticket window and
must appear in court, at which time it could be dismissed. Solicitor Chisholm explained that he
reached out to the prosecutor in the City of Clarkston, City of Atlanta, and City of Savannah three
years ago; however, he has not spoken with them since the hemp law was introduced. He is not
sure how they are handling those cases.
Niki Jones shared some questions to consider regarding next steps as the Committee moves
forward on this topic. Commissioner Edwards explained that he would like to know how the
enforcement and prosecution of the parallel ordinance enforcement in other jurisdictions has
been affected post state hemp law prior to taking any further action on this item. Commissioner
Wright agreed that there is more to study on this topic. She shared that she does not want to put
people through the court system, even knowing that it will be dismissed, since the person
receiving the citation may not be as confident or aware that it will be dismissed. She requested
more information on how these parallel ordinances are executed in the jurisdictions previously
outlined in the comparative analysis, and she would also like to know more about the overlap
with GSP and other law enforcement agencies. Commissioner Houle explained that they would
like to see an ordinance similar to those that were researched, and they particularly like that
Chatham County’s ordinance includes language around drug-related objects that might also be
included. They also expressed interest in receiving more information and a rationale on why it
needs to apply to just under an ounce of marijuana, as well as what the implications would be if
applied to a larger amount.
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Solicitor Chisholm explained that the quantity of marijuana is due to state statute and the state
definition of a misdemeanor amount of marijuana. He also shared that he brought up the ticket
window concern, because, three years ago, the intent behind the ordinance was to have the
least onerous process possible for the individual involved. If it is moved to court only citations,
this would not be the case. He noted he is not advocating one way or the other, but he wanted to
share it as a point to consider. He also explained that juveniles will also be charged with this, and
the Committee will need to think about how they want to address it.
C. Review of regulation of use of gas-powered leaf blowers, including as pertains to our
noise ordinance. (Mayor Girtz assigned to LRC on November 4, 2020)
Niki Jones introduced the topic and shared a summary of past discussions. Gavin Hassemer
explained that Landscape Management and Facilities Management divisions of the Central
Services department account for about 40 different leaf blowers, and they use them on a daily
basis, on average about 1.66 hours per day. He shared that he believes it is important to also
consider how transitioning leaf blowers from gas-powered to battery-operated would translate to
some of our other equipment and whether or not separate brands or batteries would need to be
purchased for those other types of equipment. He recommended a phased implementation that
allowed staff to still utilize existing gas-powered equipment in cases of emergency, or, as spares
when electric battery equipment is down. He also noted that replacing gas equipment may be
required more frequently compared to electric equipment; however, new batteries will likely be an
annual expense. He also shared some pros and cons with the Committee. Pros included safety,
fuel savings, and reduced carbon emissions. Cons included cost, delivery time, durability,
compatibility, and reliability, as well as the need for additional charging locations, facility electrical
modifications, and multiple backup batteries.
Gavin Hassemer also provided some information on budget impacts. He explained that, if we
were to consider a 100% change over to electric leaf blowers, his department projects an
expense of up to $100,477 in initial equipment purchase, as well as up to $38,552 in annual
operating maintenance expense. Niki Jones requested clarification on whether or not Central
Services had already started to transition to electric. Gavin Hassemer explained that they have in
a very small amount. They have purchased a handful of electric leaf blowers, but nothing
compared to a formal pilot program.
Commissioner Edwards shared that one thing that stood out to him about the presentation was
that it is very numbers heavy. He reiterated that he is most concerned about the health costs to
our workers for using these machines, and he would like to stress the harms that are created by
gas-powered leaf blowers, which have been researched.
Suki Janssen provided an overview on Solid Waste’s pilot program for battery-powered leaf
blowers. She shared that they have four battery-powered leaf blowers that they have been using
for two months, and they are currently experiencing some challenges with battery life. She noted
that part of that is that they are having to store the batteries in the parking deck, and batteries
tend to perform better when stored in climate controlled areas, which the parking deck is not.
They also have one backpack leaf blower that has broken down, but they are struggling to find
someone to repair them. Commissioner Edwards explained that storing the batteries in a climate
controlled environment is a must, and he expressed concern that they are not being stored in
such an environment, given the batteries are the most expensive part of the leaf blowers. Suki
Janssen shared that they do have an alternate option that they are exploring for storing the
batteries.
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Alex Bond shared an overview of the background of equipment, usage, and pilot implementation
for leaf blowers in Leisure Services. He explained that they have purchased a STIHL 3000
electric backpack blower for their pilot program. He also shared budget impacts and what it
would take to phase out gas-powered leaf blowers. As of now, Leisure Services does not have
any approved funding to implement the transition, though he noted that the gas-powered
equipment could possibly be sold as surplus and used to offset the cost.
Niki Jones shared the staff recommendation of a one-year pilot program with a phased, three-
year approach to converting the fleet of gas-powered leaf blowers to electric leaf blowers.
Commissioner Edwards explained that he would like assurances from all staff that the batteries
are being properly stored, and he would like directions on how to properly store batteries to be
part of the education strategy throughout the government. He also expressed interest in, at the
next meeting, seeing more staff recognition of the health ramifications for our employees for the
continued usage of gas-powered leaf blowers and assurances that those recognitions are being
communicated throughout the government to ensure that sufficient PPE is required for the
operators of these machines. Commissioner Houle explained that, when it comes to our own
staff and facilities, they feel strongly in favor with transitioning to electric leaf blowers. They
reiterated that the equipment is carcinogenic and harmful to the environment.
Niki Jones summarized that staff would be prepared to provide a plan for PPE, storage, and
purchase. Commissioner Edwards added that he would also like a health education plan for
employees, including communicating why the PPE is necessary to raise awareness on the
harms of the machines.
D. Schedule/Agenda Changes
The next LRC meeting is scheduled for April 7, 2022 at 1:00 p.m.
The April 7, 2022 LRC meeting was subsequently rescheduled to April 14, 2022 at 1:00
p.m.
The meeting adjourned with no objection at 2:40 p.m.
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Agenda
Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the March 3, 2022 meeting will be remote.
The regular meeting for the Legislative Review Committee will be available to watch live on
YouTube at link available on the calendar on the ACCGov website.
AGENDA
Legislative Review Committee
Thursday, March 3, 2022
1:00 pm – 2:30 pm
A. Approval of agenda and approval of the Thursday, February 3, 2022 Minutes
B. Commission Identified Items of Interest:
Examine marijuana penalty options that could be embedded in local
ordinance as an alternative to state charges. (Mayor Girtz assigned to LRC
on February 1, 2022)
Review of regulation of use of gas-powered leaf blowers, including as
pertains to our noise ordinance. (Mayor Girtz assigned to LRC on November
4, 2020)
Confirm a Quorum for next meeting
Notes:
Items Assigned - Future Consideration: N/A
Items On Hold Awaiting Additional Information:
Note: The LRC Meeting is open to the public. However, public comments are not
received unless the Committee Chairperson requests that an individual
provides information to the Committee.
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