Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingBattle Creek, MI · February 10, 2014
Minutes
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
Meeting Minutes
February 10, 2014
CALL TO ORDER:
Mr. Mike Troutman, Chairperson called the meeting to order at 4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Eric Greene Doug Sofia
Dan Buscher Mike Troutman
Mark Jones Kim Tuck
Members Excused: Susan Baldwin
Staff Present: Glenn Perian, Senior Planner, Planning Dept.
Marcel Stoetzel, Assistant City Attorney
Leona Parrish, Admin. Assistant, Planning Dept.
ADDITIONS / DELETIONS TO AGENDA: None
APPROVAL OF PREVIOUS MINUTES:
MOTION MADE BY MR. DAN BUSCHER TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR
THE JANUARY 13, 2014 HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION MEETING,
SECONDED BY MR. ERIC GREENE.
ALL IN FAVOR; NONE OPPOSED; MINUTES APPROVED
CORRESPONDENCE: None
OLD BUSINESS: None
NEW BUSINESS:
A) 78 Ann Avenue - (Request from City of Battle Creek, Mr. Dennis McKinley, Code
Compliance Administrator, 10 N. Division St., Battle Creek, MI 49014, on behalf of property
owner Mr. Anthony Roselli requesting a Notice to Proceed for a demolition of a fire
damaged structure.)
Mr. Dennis McKinley, Code Compliance Administrator, stated he was here today on behalf of the
City of Battle Creek along with Mr. Quincy Jones, Fire Inspector and Mr. Don Wilkinson,
Building Inspector. Stated he was here today to discuss their request for permission to proceed
with the demolition of 78 Ann Avenue. Said this property was heavily damaged by fire on
October 14, 2012, is on the cities Dangerous Buildings list as it is unsafe for occupancy and at a
minimum likely to partially collapse with the estimated cost of repair to be $143,000 thousand
dollars with an State Equalized Value of $20,598 thousand dollars, and based on the fact that the
cost of repair exceed the SEV for the property makes it a candidate for demolition. Said on
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January 18, 2014 the Housing Board of Appeals had affirmed it as being a dangerous building and
his request is to move this through the process so it may be demolished.
Mr. Doug Sofia asked if this property was owned by the County Land Bank. Mr. McKinley stated
no it is privately owned by Mr. Roselli, who is willing to walk away from this property and has
signed an affidavit to have the City demolish as he has no ties or interest in investing any monies
for repairs.
Mr. Mark Jones asked when that conversation occurred with the property owner. Mr. McKinley
stated it was the latter part of year 2012 just after the fire occurred in October.
Mr. Mark Jones stated he had some concerns with this property where the $143,000 thousand
dollars seems to be an outrageous amount for the restoration repair cost and believes the inside
was not so bad that all the interior walls would need replaced. Stated he contacted someone else
and they said it would be a much lesser amount of about $20,000 to $30,000 dollars.
Mr. Don Wilkinson stated the figures are based on square footage and a cost figure that is assigned
for residential construction for renovation; the number is one half the base valuation data provided
by ICC “International Code Council” which is $47.67 per square foot and that the cost for a new
home is $97.00 which is about one-half the cost.
Mr. Kim Tuck stated from his experience renovating this type of houses, one of the issues is
because of the extent of the damage this house would need to be brought up to current code
standards in renovation that would require the wiring to be replaced since it has experienced
excessive heat; the utilities are all suspect and the renovations he has done in similar
circumstances the numbers that Mr. Wilkinson has quoted are very close to what he had
experienced.
Mr. Mark Jones stated this is a 2,800 sq. ft. home and believes it could be torn down and rebuilt
for less than the amount stated. Said he knew someone who would charge much less; asked if the
cost is an average for across the United States including New York, California, etc. Mr. Don
Wilkinson stated the City uses the International Code Council “ICC” figures, which is the amount
they use to estimate the cost to rebuild.
Mr. Kim Tuck stated when he worked with the “NSP#2” Neighborhood Stabilization Program the
City had done an extensive look at a dozen homes within this neighborhood and the problem was
that the resale value was about 10% of the cost to renovate a home; so a $150,000 dollar
renovation when complete had a value of somewhere between $15,000 to $20,000 thousand
dollars. Therefore, it is not economically viable to renovate a structure within that neighborhood
when it is damaged to the extent of this property.
Mr. Mark Jones stated five years ago this property sold for $104.00 and he believes that people
value homes based on a percentage and that this home is worth $40,000 to $50,000 dollars given
the area when restored.
With no others wishing to speak, Chairperson, Mr. Troutman asked commissioners for any
action to be taken.
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MOTION WAS MADE BY MR. DOUG SOFIA TO APPROVE THE REQUEST
FOR A NOTICE TO PROCEED FOR DEMOLITION BASED ON THE
STANDARD #1 OUTLINED IN CHAPTER 1470.09(e) NOTED IN THE STAFF
REPORT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 78 ANN AVENUE; SECONDED BY
MR. KIM TUCK.
Mr. Jones asked if this property was insured and had the owner received a fire settlement from the
insurance company. Mr. Dennis McKinley stated he had no knowledge of the owner receiving a
settlement and that if a home is insured they would have received monies from the Fire Escrow
account and in this case they have not received any funds.
FIVE IN FAVOR (GREEN, BUSCHER, SOFIA, TUCK AND TROUTMAN; ONE
OPPOSED (JONES); MOTION CARRIED.
B) 225 W. Michigan Avenue – (City of Battle Creek, Mr. Dennis McKinley, Code Compliance
Administrator, 10 N. Division St., Battle Creek, MI 49014, request an issuance for a Notice
to Proceed to demolish a fire damaged structure).
Mr. Dennis McKinley stated he was here along with Quincy Jones, Fire Inspector and Mr. Don
Wilkinson, Building Inspector to speak regarding his request for a Notice to Proceed for
demolition for the On Deck Sports Bar and Grill that was severely damaged by fire on December
30, 2013. Stated the cost for the repair damage is approximately $937,000 and the property SEV
value is $61,000 dollars which makes it a candidate for demolition. Said this property has been
heard before the Dangerous Buildings Hearing Officer and has approved it as a dangerous
building. Therefore he is recommending proceeding with a request for a Notice to Proceed for
demolition. Stated present is the fire inspector to answer any additional questions.
Mr. Daniel Buscher asked if they have been working with the Battle Creek Police Department
regarding the fire investigation. Mr. Dennis McKinley stated yes he has spoken with Detective
Silverman last week at the site in the basement conducting an investigation.
Mr. Daniel Buscher asked Mr. Quincy Jones, Fire Inspector, regarding the status of the fire
investigation and if the building needed to be thawed to proceed with the investigation. Mr.
Quincy Jones stated that at this time they are still investigating to get an analysis of what might
have occurred and also have insurance company engineers involved.
Mr. Daniel Buscher stated they would then need to close the investigation before this structure
would be approved to be demolished. Mr. Jones stated there is a lot of structural damage and that
is why they have the experts helping with the investigation.
Mr. Mark Jones asked if they can make a decision pending the outcome of the fire investigation.
Mr. Mike Troutman stated the city would not allow the structure to be demolished until the
investigation was completed. Mr. Dennis McKinley agreed.
Mr. Kim Tuck stated they may need to remove a portions of the structure because of the danger of
collapse and the exterior walls on the 3 rd floor are very subject to wind damage that could cause
collapse; he is sure the engineers are dealing with the progressive state of demolition.
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Mr. Quincy Jones stated it would not be allowed to be demolished until after the investigation was
complete and they are concerned with the east and west walls of the structure as over 90,000
gallons of water was put into this building and the potential danger is there for collapse.
Mr. Don Wilkinson, Building Inspector, City of Battle Creek, stated he concurs with the Fire
Inspector that this entire roof structure that holds the walls in place has been burnt-out and
collapsed into or onto the 3rd floor and with the additional weight not only with the amount of
water, but the snow and ice causing it to push out the walls. Stated he had not been at the site for a
couple weeks; at that time they were preparing to setup to add temporary heat to thaw the building,
but had more snow. Stated it is considered extremely dangerous especially the side walls at this
point and time.
Mr. Mike Troutman asked Mr. Glenn Perian who would make the final decision to remove the
structure and if someone in Public Safety would decide. Mr. Glenn Perian stated he was not sure
who would make the final decision; agree that it would not be removed until the full investigation
has been completed and that someone in Public Safety would make that decision.
Mr. Mike Troutman asked if it is decided today, it does not mean it would be demolished soon
until it has been signed off by whoever is responsible. Mr. Dennis McKinley stated they are
asking for a decision at this time because they do not want the City to be the hold-up in case the
insurance monies come through and would then be ready to move forward with the demolition.
MOTION WAS MADE BY MR. MARK JONES TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR
A NOTICE TO PROCEED FOR DEMOLITION BASED ON THE REQUEST
MEETING STANDARDS #1 AND #3 OUTLINED IN CHAPTER 1470.09(e) NOTED
IN THE STAFF REPORT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 225 W. MICHIGAN
AVENUE; SECONDED BY MR. DANIEL BUSCHER.
ALL IN FAVOR; NONE OPPOSED; MOTION APPROVED
PUBLIC COMMENTS: None
COMMENTS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS AND STAFF: None
ADJOURNMENT:
Mr. Mike Troutman, Chair adjourned meeting at 4: 23 P.M.
Submitted by: Leona A. Parrish, Administrative Assistant, Planning Department
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