City Council Workshop
Regular MeetingBlaine, MN · January 22, 2015
Minutes
10801 Town Square Drive
City of Blaine Blaine MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Minutes - Final
City Council Workshop
*While this is a public meeting where interested persons are
welcome to attend, it is a work session for Council and staff
to discuss issues before them. It is not for the purpose of
receiving public input.
Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:30 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
1 Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Ryan at 6:30 p.m.
2 Roll Call
Quorum Present.
ALSO PRESENT: City Manager Clark Arneson; City Attorney Thomas
Sweeney; Planning and Community Development Director Bryan Schafer;
Public Services Manager Bob Therres; Finance Director Joe Huss; City
Engineer Jean Keely; Police Chief/Safety Services Manager Chris Olson;
Stormwater Manager Jim Hafner; Communications Technician Roark Haver;
Senior Engineering Technician Al Thorp; City Clerk Catherine Sorensen; and
Recording Secretary Linda Dahlquist.
Present: 6 - Mayor Ryan, Councilmember Swanson, Councilmember Bourke,
Councilmember Herbst, Councilmember Clark, and Councilmember
Hovland
Absent: 1 - Councilmember King
3 New Business
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3-1 WS 15-05 LOCAL WATER PLAN AND ORDINANCE UPDATES
Sponsors: Hafner
Attachments: Water Plan
Storm Water Ordinance
ESC Ordinance
Stormwater Manager Hafner stated staff is proposing updates to the Local
Surface Water Management Plan (LSWMP), Stormwater Ordinance, and
Erosion Control Ordinance. He noted all metro cities are required to have a
LSWMP as part of a Comprehensive Plan and has to be updated within two
years of the Watershed Districts (WD) plan. He noted the LSWMP is
reviewed by the Watershed Districts, Anoka County and Met Council. He
stated the LSWMP is required criteria for funding and State programs. He
gave an overview of the updates/changes: remove references to Six Cities
WMO, update maps, update references to WD plans and rules, change
reference to rainfall frequency model, update references to ordinance
revisions, MS4 permit, non-degradation report, stormwater utility fee,
TMDL’s, budget and CIP.
Councilmember Herbst asked about holding ponds’ water used for residential
irrigation. Stormwater Manager Hafner replied it is a possibility. Community
Development Director Schafer replied the larger developments do use holding
ponds’ water for irrigation.
Stormwater Manager Hafner stated the City’s Comp Plan is scheduled for
updating in 2018 and the LSWMP will be updated at the same time. He
stated the plan has been through an internal preliminary review and the WD
will have a 60-day review, and the Met Council and Anoka County will have
a 45-day review. He stated He stated there are minor changes to the City
ordinance: NPDES MS4 Stormwater Management, Chapter 34 Environment,
MS4 permit renewed in August 2013, and several new permit items requiring
updates. He stated stormwater ordinance changes include: Infiltrate first 1.1
inches of rainfall; add details to anti-degradation; infiltration limitations due
to contaminant potential, non-porous soil or high bedrock, DWSMA, high
water table; provide off-site treatment if on-site is not possible. He stated the
zoning ordinance changes include NPDES construction site management;
performance standards - 33.16, inspection requirement; and permitted staff
training. He gave an overview of the time frame for adoption and noted the
changes would be effective in March 2015.
Councilmember Herbst asked what if the City did not do any updates.
Stormwater Manager Hafner replied the City would be found non-compliant
with the WDs.
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Councilmember Hovland asked how often the ordinances and the plan are
updated. Stormwater Manager Hafner replied the ordinances are reviewed
every five years with the MS4 permit. He stated the water plan is on the WDs
cycle, which is on a five to ten years cycle. He noted the City has to update
their plan within two years after the WDs update.
Councilmember Hovland asked if the ordinances and plan can wait to be
updated with the Comp Plan. Stormwater Manager Hafner replied the
updates to the Comp Plan could be off kilter with the ten years cycle, which is
currently happening.
Mayor Ryan commented the City needs to keep an eye on the project over on
Lexington and the ditch backing up.
Councilmember Bourke asked about the 120-day timeframe for review.
Stormwater Manager Hafner replied the water plan is on a different schedule
and the ordinances can be approved before the plan is approved.
Councilmember Clark requested budget and operational impacts due to the
proposed changes.
Councilmember Herbst asked if any of the changes will be a burden on
existing business. Stormwater Manager Hafner replied no, most changes are
already in place. He commented the stormwater costs will be insignificant.
He noted additional inspections will be needed, but will not affect the budget.
Councilmember Bourke confirmed that the proposed changes are necessary to
meet mandates. Stormwater Manager Hafner replied yes.
City Manager Arneson commented Well 6 drilling will begin the first week in
February 2015.
Discussed
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3-2 WS 15-06 HARPERS STREET AREA REGIONAL STORM
DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, IMPROVEMENT
PROJECT NO. 13-12
Sponsors: Therres
Attachments: Figure 1 - overall original concept.pdf
Figure 2 - Proposed trunk storm sewer.pdf
Public Services Manager Therres commented this project was initiated before
2005. He stated in order to develop the remaining five acre parcels,
developers have been losing 2-3 lots of immediate development potential with
onsite ponding. He stated the latest proposal shows temporary ponding on the
individual parcel with an ultimate storm water design utilizing a regional
storm water pond.
Councilmember Herbst stated his son lives near the location of the proposed
stormwater pond. He asked if his son would benefit from the stormwater
pond. Public Services Manager Therres replied no, the pond is on the other
side of the ditch.
Councilmember Herbst asked if staff have talked to the neighborhood
residents. Public Services Manager Therres replied yes, a public meeting was
held with the property owners.
Councilmember Herbst commented there is a culvert that is 1.5 feet too high
and needs to be lowered.
Public Services Manager Therres gave an overview of the area map, noting
the area is separated into three alignment sections. He stated staff is
suggesting a regional study be conducted on alignment area 1.
Councilmember Hovland asked if the low-lying areas in District 2 are
considered wetlands. Public Services Manager Therres replied he did not
know.
Councilmember Bourke asked if the pond had to be where it is currently
shown. Public Services Manager Therres replied yes, due to the land
elevation.
Councilmember Hovland clarified that the City would have to purchase the
land from the owner for the stormwater pond. Public Services Manager
Therres replied yes and then assessed back to the development.
Discussed
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Other Business
City Engineer Keely gave an update on the Harpers Street construction. She
stated the contract would be awarded after MSA dollars are confirmed. She
commented a public meeting will be held.
Councilmember Hovland asked about 125th construction plans. City
Engineer Keely replied changes have been made to the plan. She stated the
County Board dictated a full opening for Xylite Street in the median, a
sidewalk to Pioneer Park; new entrance off of Xylite Street, and two
signalized intersections at Harpers and Cloud Drive. He noted State Aid has
the signal justification reports.
Police Chief/Safety Services Manager Olson gave an overview of a police
arrest situation that took place in the early morning of January 22, 2015.
Councilmember Hovland asked if the City is prepared for a public march or
sit-in where to happen. Police Chief/Safety Services Manager Olson replied
the City has a plan and would seek assistance from neighboring cities.
ADJOURN
The Workshop adjourned at 7:30 p.m.
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Agenda
10801 Town Square Dr.
City of Blaine Blaine MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Meeting Agenda - Final
City Council Workshop
*While this is a public meeting where interested persons are
welcome to attend, it is a work session for Council and staff to
discuss issues before them. It is not for the purpose of
receiving public input.
Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:30 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
In accordance with the provisions of Section 3.01 of the Blaine City Charter, a Council
Workshop meeting is scheduled for the following purpose:
1 Call to Order
2 Roll Call
3 New Business
3-1 WS 15-05 LOCAL WATER PLAN AND ORDINANCE UPDATES
Sponsors: Hafner
Attachments: Water Plan
Storm Water Ordinance
ESC Ordinance
3-2 WS 15-06 HARPERS STREET AREA REGIONAL STORM DRAINAGE
IMPROVEMENTS, IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NO. 13-12
Sponsors: Therres
Attachments: Figure 1 - overall original concept.pdf
Figure 2 - Proposed trunk storm sewer.pdf
ADJOURN
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