City Council Workshop
Regular MeetingBlaine, MN · January 14, 2016
Minutes
Blaine City Hall
City of Blaine 10801 Town Sq Dr NE
Blaine, MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Minutes - Final
City Council Workshop
*While this is a public meeting where interested persons are
welcome to attend, it is a work session for Council and staff
to discuss issues before them. It is not for the purpose of
receiving public input.
Thursday, January 14, 2016 6:30 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
1 Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Ryan at 6:30 p.m.
2 Roll Call
Quorum Present.
ALSO PRESENT: City Manager Clark Arneson; City Attorney Patrick
Sweeney; Planning and Community Development Director Bryan Schafer;
Public Services Manager Bob Therres; Finance Director Joe Huss; Police
Chief/Safety Services Manager Chris Olson; City Engineer Jean Keely; Chief
Building Official Dan Hauck; Communications Technician Roark Haver;
Senior Engineering Technician Al Thorp; City Clerk Catherine Sorensen; and
Recording Secretary Linda Dahlquist.
Present: 6 - Mayor Ryan, Councilmember Hovland, Councilmember Swanson,
Councilmember Clark, Councilmember Bourke, and Councilmember King
Absent: 1 - Councilmember Herbst
3 New Business
3-1 WS 16-01 MNDOT DISCUSSION ON I35W PRELIMINARY DESIGN
Jerome Adams, MNDOT Project Manager and Mark Lindeberg MNDOT
Area Engineer presented detailed information on possible spot improvements
that could be included in the MnPASS project and a cost estimate for each
improvement.
Mr. Adams stated the base scope of the project is to add a lane in each
direction from County Road C to Lexington Avenue for a MnPASS lane and
pavement rehab with all concrete up to Sunset Avenue. He gave an overview
of the spot improvements for north and south bound 35W to increase traffic
flow until 2040. He noted the proposed improvements will bring the project
cost to $200 million.
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Mayor Ryan asked about the bridges on 35W. Mr. Adams replied the bridges
that need to be replaced are County Road I and two south bound bridges at
County Road C. He noted the County Road C north bound bridges are due for
re-decking in 2025 and he is recommending replacing these at the same time
instead of waiting.
Councilmember Swanson asked if County Road I bridge is funded. Mr.
Adams replied the project is underfunded and the proposed project is $200
million dollars. He noted this is a priority project for MNDOT.
Councilmember Hovland commented 35W at 694 is majorly congested and
traffic backs up. Mr. Adams replied the addition of the MnPASS lane and
auxiliary lane should help to relieve that backup.
Councilmember Bourke asked if MNDOT has traffic counts. Mr. Adams
replied MNDOT has a traffic forecast and proposed this model based on the
traffic forecast.
Councilmember Swanson asked about the federal government’s opinion with
the model. Mr. Adams replied the federal representatives have been attending
the advisory meetings and are supportive of the project.
Councilmember Swanson commented more lobbying is needed for more
funding.
Councilmember Swanson asked what is happening to the County Road I
interchange. Mr. Adams replied in 2017 Ramsey County will install a
roundabout on the east side of County Road I at Rice Creek Boulevard and
remove the north bound ramp onto 35W.
City Manager Arneson commented Ramsey County and the City of Arden
Hills are releasing a master solicitation for a developer for the TCAP site
within 30 days which will eventually affect traffic in this area.
Mr. Adams commented City Engineer Keely has all the detailed road maps
then gave an overview on noise walls. He stated the people who benefit from
the noise wall will be able to vote on it. He noted the wall goes from the
manufactured homes park to the industrial park. He stated the wall is paid for
by MNDOT. He commented that the property owner of the manufactured
homes park voted against the noise wall in the past.
Councilmember Hovland asked if this rule will change in the future regarding
voting for a sound wall. Mr. Adams replied it is federal regulation that only
the property owner can vote and said the reason could be because
homeowners are more likely to move away while landowners stay.
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Mr. Adams gave an overview of the design aesthetics of the noise walls.
City Manager Arneson asked about next steps. Mr. Adams stated the
environmental study will start in March. He stated he will be in contact with
City Engineer Keely about the public hearing. He commented the project is
projected for spring 2018.
Councilmember Hovland asked if the project could start without all the
funding. Mr. Adams replied no.
Discussed
3-2 WS 16-02 CENTENNIAL SCHOOL PARKING/FIELD EXPANSIONS
Planning and Community Development Director Schafer stated staff met with
Centennial School representatives to discuss their 2016 parking and field
expansions for the north side of their site.
Dan Huffman, Centennial School, gave an overview of the proposed project
which includes new practice and sub-varsity playing field (rubber turf); 80
stall parking lot west of the new field; 200 stall parking lot south of the new
field; 45 stall parking lot on the northeast corner; parking area lighting; new
parent drop-off/pick-up area; new curbing in three areas; and storm water
improvements. He noted the school district plans to purchase several homes
on the south side on 103rd. He stated the City will be considering this project
through a standard CUP process which will include a public hearing. He
noted the district plans to start work as soon as school is out in June.
Councilmember Swanson asked if the new parking will eliminate on street
parking. Mr. Huffman replied that is the hope.
Councilmember Clark asked for enrollment counts at the high school. Mr.
Huffman replied current enrollment is 2,100.
Mr. Huffman commented there are no plans to light the field.
Discussed
3-3 WS 16-03 CONSIDER AMENDING REGULATIONS FOR SWIMMING POOLS
Planning and Community Development Director Schafer stated the City’s
ordinance regulates the construction and placement of back yard swimming
pools and the placement of pool equipment (heaters/pumps/filters). He stated
there have been advances in technology making the equipment quieter and
more efficient. He stated other cities have given more flexibility in
determining where the equipment can be located. He stated staff is
recommending the proposed definition match the Minnesota State Pool Code
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and the Minnesota Building Code; removing the permit for a pool greater than
200 square feet or 24 inches in depth, and increase the permit threshold to
5,000 gallons and greater than 24 inches in depth; allow pool equipment in
side yard with 10 foot setback; remove the 35 foot pool equipment from
neighboring house; and propose pool standards to match the 2012
International Swimming Pool Code.
Councilmember Bourke asked if a 5 foot setback would be feasible. Mayor
Ryan gave an overview of a situation where a homeowner has their pool
equipment 6 feet from the property line.
Councilmember King asked if there is a setback for air conditioners. Planning
and Community Development Director Schafer replied there is no setback for
air conditioners.
Councilmember Hovland asked if the setbacks are the same in the older and
newer neighborhoods in the City. Planning and Community Development
Director Schafer replied setbacks are the same.
Chief Building Official Hauck stated air intake openings need to be 10 feet
away from exhausts. He noted that pool covers are not allowed to take the
place of a fence. He noted locking or power covers are allowed.
Council consensus was for staff to bring forward a code amendment for no
side yard pool equipment and 10-foot setback.
Discussed
OTHER BUSINESS
3-4 LEVER STREET UTILITIES DISCUSSION
Councilmember Clark said he understands the desire of the property owners
north of Main Street that want to develop sooner rather than later, and that the
extension of Lever Street north is critical to their development goals. He also
stated that he is opposed to the City initiating the project without a
commitment from those property owners that there is sufficient acreage north
of Main Street that is ready to develop that the City has a reasonable chance of
getting a return on the taxpayer’s investment. Short of the property owners
circulating a petition, which is the preferred route, Councilmember Clark
offered an alternative path as a compromise.
Councilmember Bourke commented the City should not be involved with the
property owners to the north. He stated the City should plat and do the work.
He stated he wants to make sure the development is in compliance and noted
the developer is currently noncompliant because he does not have the
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necessary easement to complete the road.
Planning and Community Development Director Schafer stated the
development agreement states that before the next phase of single family
begins the developer has to have easement in place. He stated Paxmar is
prepared to do Lever Street but needs to have enough lots sold to cover the
cost.
Councilmember Bourke stated he is uncomfortable with the developer not
having the easement. He stated Paxmar showed the Council the concept plan
which was approved but did not include a timeline. He noted that the concept
is not correct because the easement it is not in-place.
Councilmember Clark commented the City may need to use immanent
domain to obtain the easement. He noted that he feels he is being pressured to
build the road in 2016.
Councilmember Hovland stated there are people to the north that want to be
able to develop and cannot do so without utilities. He noted it is up to the
people to the north to decide to connect to the utilities. He stated the
easement is needed to put the road in to move traffic through the area. He
stated this project needs to be done sooner or later. He stated the question is
should the City pay to install the sewer and water in the road and be
reimbursed by Paxmar.
Councilmember Clark commented the City would have to invest $750,000
taxpayers’ dollars to finish the sewer and water utilities in the road. He noted
there is no return on investment guaranty.
Mayor Ryan stated Paxmar does not want the City to build the road. He
stated the residents to the north could petition for the utilities if they wanted
them and have not done so.
Councilmember King asked if the intersection at Lever Street will be lighted.
City Manager Arneson stated not at this time.
Councilmember King commented the developer currently has three plats
approved. Planning and Community Development Director Schafer replied
the development to the south is selling quicker. He stated the developer
would know by May if he is going to develop the road yet this year.
Councilmember King stated there are two separate projects and if the
residents north want the utilities they should let it be known by petition. He
noted that Paxmar is holding all the cards.
Councilmember Swanson agreed the people north need to let it be known they
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want the road built. He stated if the City does the work and Paxmar
challenges it, the City will not be able to be reimbursed the costs.
Mayor Ryan commented he would agree to complete the road if the residents
petition for it to be done.
Planning and Community Development Director Schafer gave an overview of
the plans of surrounding properties.
City Manager Arneson commented the road could be completed without the
easement by moving Lever Street on the north side.
Councilmember Clark stated if Paxmar is holding up the residents from
developing the residents need to let the City know. He noted if the people
north do not come forward, Paxmar can do the work on their own schedule.
Councilmember Swanson stated nobody will pay a premium price until the
land to the south is developed. He noted he is willing to subsidize the
development if the need is known.
Councilmember Hovland commented developers will not make offers until
sewer and water is installed.
Councilmember Swanson asked how long it would take to install sewer and
water. City Engineer Keely stated three to five months before a contractor is
working and then the work would take an additional two to three months.
City Manager Arneson commented Paxmar did the plans and the City would
have to buy the plans from the consultant because Paxmar will want to be
compensated. He noted that Paxmar does not want the City to do the work.
Councilmember Clark stated the go/no go date for any project is May 1, 2016.
He stated hearings can be held to gauge the level of interest in the
development, make a decision for either the City to move forward or Paxmar
to move forward, or negotiate with Paxmar to do the work and the City
finance the work. He stated without due diligence he will not vote to force
the road.
Councilmember King stated he wants to hear from the residents on if they
want the road done.
City Manager Arneson summarized Council wants staff to meet with Paxmar
about a public project to get the Council to a go/no go decision by May 1,
2016. He summarized staff should bring forward a process to a workshop to
get input from residents from Lexington Avenue to Sunset Avenue on the
Lever Street sewer and water utilities.
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Councilmember Bourke stated he does not want a half completed
development.
Councilmember Clark summarized staff will develop a public process, but not
initiate the process, until Council has agreement on the definition of a yes
vote to move forward.
City Manager Arneson commented if the Council wants the project done in
2016 certain things need to be done.
Councilmember Bourke stated he wants the easement confirmed to complete
the road. He stated he would like a set target date.
Councilmember Hovland commented two people at the public hearing did not
understand the assessment ordinance and that it should be clarified for
residents as we move forward.
Discussed.
ADJOURN
The Workshop adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
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Agenda
Blaine City Hall
City of Blaine 10801 Town Square Dr NE
Blaine, MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Meeting Agenda - Final-revised
City Council Workshop
*While this is a public meeting where interested persons are
welcome to attend, it is a work session for Council and staff to
discuss issues before them. It is not for the purpose of
receiving public input.
Thursday, January 14, 2016 6:30 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
In accordance with the provisions of Section 3.01 of the Blaine City Charter, a Council
Workshop meeting is scheduled for the following purpose:
1 Call to Order
2 Roll Call
3 New Business
3-1 WS 16-01 MNDOT DISCUSSION ON I35W PRELIMINARY DESIGN
Sponsors: Therres
Attachments: Workshop Attachments.pdf
3-2 WS 16-02 CENTENNIAL SCHOOL PARKING/FIELD EXPANSIONS
Sponsors: Schafer
3-3 WS 16-03 CONSIDER AMENDING REGULATIONS FOR SWIMMING POOLS
Sponsors: Schafer
3-4 LEVER STREET UTILITIES DISCUSSION
ADJOURN
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