City Council Workshop
Regular MeetingBlaine, MN · September 13, 2021
Minutes
Blaine City Hall
City of Blaine 10801 Town Sq Dr NE
Blaine MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Minutes
City Council Workshop
While this is a public meeting where interested persons are
welcome to attend, it is a work session for City Council and
staff to discuss issues before them. It is not for the purpose of
receiving public input.
Monday, September 13, 2021 6:00 PM Council Chambers
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
1 Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Sanders at 6:00PM.
2 Roll Call
PRESENT: Mayor Tim Sanders, Councilmembers Wes Hovland, Julie
Jeppson, Chris Massoglia, Jess Robertson, and Jason Smith.
Adjunct Member Drew Brown.
ABSENT: Councilmember Richard Paul.
Quorum Present.
ALSO PRESENT: City Manager Michelle Wolfe; Community
Development Director Erik Thorvig; Police Chief/Safety Services
Manager Brian Podany; Fire Chief Charlie Smith; Finance Director Joe
Huss; City Engineer Dan Schluender; Communications Manager Ben
Hayle; and City Clerk Catherine Sorensen.
Present: 6 - Councilmember Robertson, Councilmember Hovland, Massoglia, Smith,
Sanders, and Councilmember Jeppson
Absent: 1 - Councilmember Paul
3 New Business
3-1 Northtown Area Revitalization and Redevelopment Planning
Study Update
Attachments: Memo
Community Development Director Thorvig stated the Northtown Area
planning study began in August, 2021 after approval of the contract with
Damon Farber. He reported representatives from Damon Farber had an
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update for the council on the Northtown Area Revitalization and
Redevelopment study.
Jeff McMenimen, Damon Farber, provided the Council with information
on the Northtown Area study. He discussed the project timeline and
highlighted the work that had been done to date. He reported a tour of the
mall was conducted with city staff and the mall owner. He indicated their
mission at this time was to create an assessment of existing conditions,
parking situations, along with a market analysis in order to create a
redevelopment strategy for the Northtown Mall and the surrounding area.
He stated he was working with city staff on creating a survey for gathering
data then commented further on discussions with the mall owners noting
they were very supportive of this effort. He reported the design charette
would be held October 26 through October 28 explaining the outcomes
from the charette would assist with planning the future for the mall and the
surrounding area. Further discussion ensued regarding the ways in which
Damon Farber would be reaching out to stakeholders and the public to
conduct community engagement.
Tom Whitlock, Damon Farber, described the area that was included
within the study. He discussed the feedback he received from the public
at World Fest and was noted pedestrian safety and access to the mall
would be a large component of the study.
Mayor Sanders thanked the representatives from Damon Farber for their
presentation then asked for comments or questions from the council.
Councilmember Hovland discussed the issues underway with Metro
Transit. He noted there were local transit opportunities that may provide
transportation opportunities to the Northtown Mall. He explained the
impacts to property owners near the mall should three and four-story
apartment complexes be constructed. He encouraged the consultants to
reach out to these adjacent neighborhoods and the two large churches
near the mall for their input as the current demographic may not align with
some of the proposed concepts such as higher end condos.
Councilmember Smith agreed these were stakeholders who should be
included but noted the mall was more of a regional asset. He anticipated
the rebuild would take into account more than just the local
neighborhoods and wanted to ensure that the city was thinking broadly
and big enough.
Councilmember Hovland commented further on the security concerns that
have arisen in the mall area.
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Councilmember Jeppson thanked the Damon Farber representatives for
their detailed report. She stated she looked forward to hearing more from
the consultants as this process moves forward.
Councilmember Massoglia commented the mall owners stated they do
not believe the mall can succeed going into the future in the current
market place. He asked if the mall owners have a plan or priorities going
forward. Mr. Whitlock reported these are things they have studied, but
understand that something transformational has to happen in order for
the mall to survive. He indicated the mall owners understand the
challenges in place that have impacted their ability to make quick
transformational change. Mr. Thorvig stated there were physical site
challenges that make the site difficult and this has to be further explored
and discovered for the short term, medium term and long term.
Councilmember Hovland confirmed the fitness center in the mall was
attached to the mall but had private ownership then discussed the
outlying parking at the mall, noting it was greatly underutilized. He
encouraged the city to consider how to develop this space. Mr.
McMenimen explained this would be considered through the study then
commented further on the infield development that has occurred at the
Southdale Mall.
Mayor Sanders discussed how the surrounding commercial areas will
have to be financially invested in this process along with the city. Mr.
Thorvig stated this was one of the biggest challenges facing the mall at
this time. He reported further details regarding the design charette would
be forthcoming for the council.
3-2 Council Requested Items for Discussion
Councilmember Robertson requested that council discuss as a future
topic what housing options and housing styles should be considered for
the next three to ten years.
Councilmember Jeppson agreed, stating she supported the council
being proactive instead of reactive when it comes to housing and
encouraged the council to keep in mind it would be important to provide
diverse housing options.
Further discussion ensued regarding the development that was recently
approved.
Councilmember Hovland noted much of the housing in Blaine over the
past 10 years has been market driven and has happened quite rapidly
and noted the council has not had sufficient time to discuss a housing
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vision and said he appreciated being able to address these concepts
and concerns.
Council consensus was to include housing development/redevelopment
discussions on upcoming workshop agenda.
3-3 Proposed 2022 SBM Capital Budget
Attachments: Presentation
Fire Chief Smith presented the 2022 SBM capital budget to the council.
The capital requests for 2022 were reviewed in detail which included the
replacement of Tender 3 at Station 3 and other building improvements. It
was noted the department had a seven-year cycle to replace its turnout
gear. The potential apparatus changes were described for the fleet. He
reported the total capital expenditures for 2022 was $546,000.
Councilmember Hovland discussed past concerns that were created
between the three cities when it came to capital purchases and
suggested Chief Smith schedule a workshop in order to allow the three
cities to openly discuss the proposed purchases. Chief Smith agreed
then commented on the benefit of having an administrative committee in
place and explained each city would be receiving the same presentation
the Blaine City Council received this evening.
Councilmember Hovland questioned how the SBM Capital Improvement
Plan (CIP) was working. Chief Smith stated he believed the feedback
from the council was working well and noted large purchases for the
department have been spread out. Finance Director Huss commented
further on the 20-25 year CIP for the SBM Fire Department noting large
purchases would draw off capital reserves. He reported this plan has
been agreed to by all three cities.
Councilmember Jeppson recommended the Tahoes not be replaced
simply due to the fact it would be more convenient to have a pickup truck
and asked that they not be replaced until the end of their useful life. Chief
Smith reported the Tahoes were from 2002 and one has lost its
transmission.
Councilmember Robertson asked how long it would take to receive a
new tender. Chief Smith reported some manufacturing was taking one
year to two years to complete.
Councilmember Robertson said she prioritized a new fire station versus
replacing other vehicles within the department. She encouraged the fire
department to implement a similar plan for its fitness equipment as done
in the police department and recommended that ARP funds be used for
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PPE. Mr. Huss stated he would have to investigate this further.
Councilmember Hovland suggested the city partner with the fire
department for larger capital purchases, such as vehicles and fitness
equipment purchases. Chief Smith agreed this was a good idea and
noted this has been done in the past.
Mayor Sanders requested further information regarding the payroll
increases. Chief Smith explained the majority of the large increases were
for positions that were reclassified within the department. He commented
further on the new hires within the department and noted these positions
were funded at a mid-grade level within the pay equity study.
Mayor Sanders asked for an update on the city of Centennial. Chief
Smith reported SBM took over administration and management of the
Centennial Fire Department. He explained this was a learning process
and noted two full time employees were hired. He indicated an audit
would be completed over the next 10 months and noted a needs list
would be created for the next three years. He stated personnel within this
fire service has been positive, which was proving to be productive.
Further discussion ensued regarding the history of the Centennial Fire
Department.
Mayor Sanders requested further information regarding the financial
agreement between the two organizations. Ms. Wolfe explained
Centennial was contracting with SBM for leadership and administrative
services. Chief Smith reported Centennial was paying an administrative
fee quarterly ($95,000) and they also covered the expense for the two
full-time employees.
Councilmember Robertson discussed the pay study and questioned how
the department chose to respond. Chief Smith explained the department
chose to have the mid-range as a target.
Mayor Sanders thanked Chief Smith for his detailed presentation.
3-4 2022 Proposed Special Revenue Funds Budget Discussion
Attachments: 2022 Communications Fund Proposed Budget
2022 Charitable Gambling Fund Proposed Budget
Mr. Huss stated as part of the city’s comprehensive budget process, staff
will present preliminary budgets for two special revenue funds. He
discussed the communication fund and charitable gambling fund in detail
with the council. The surplus within the charitable gambling fund was
reviewed along with how the council could make increased allocations to
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organizations within the community. The proposed reduction in the
communication fund revenues was described. Staff requested the council
review the 2022 proposed budgets for both the Communications Fund
and the Charitable Gambling Fund and provide direction for staff to
incorporate into a final proposed budget to be adopted later in 2021.
Mayor Sanders asked what the process was for deciding which
organizations the council support. Mr. Huss reported the organizations
listed make a formal request annually for funding. He indicated the
council asked to increase funding for the local food shelves.
Councilmember Jeppson said the food shelves were in need at this time
and while she understood she would have to abstain from voting when
formally presented for action she encouraged the council to increase the
contribution to the food shelves to $10,000 or greater because they were
directly helping Blaine residents.
Councilmember Hovland commented he would be in favor of helping the
Veterans Memorial Park. Ms. Wolfe reported the park board has been
discussing making a donation to the Veterans Memorial.
Councilmember Robertson explained she would like to better understand
if ARP funds can be used to assist local organizations. She indicated
she supported increasing the donations made to the local food shelves.
Councilmember Massoglia stated he supported increasing contributions
to the food shelves as well then questioned if the city had ever
considered giving charitable funds back to the organizations who raise
the funds. Mr. Huss explained this could not be done due to state statute.
Councilmember Smith commented he supported increasing the funding
to food shelves for the extra reserves.
Councilmember Massoglia suggested an additional $10,000 be spent
on fireworks for Blaine’s Blazin 4th Festival from the charitable gambling
fund.
Councilmember Jeppson explained she did not fully embrace the
complexity of franchise fees and reported she was confident North Metro
TV Executive Director Heidi Arnson was doing everything she can to be
fiscally responsible with spending, including being creative in finding new
revenue streams.
Ms. Wolfe commented she served on a committee with other city
managers and this group met last week where they discussed how
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franchise fees have been impacted over the past two months noting
subscribers were down but fees collected were up.
Councilmember Hovland reported North Metro TV has been battling this
for years. He understood there has been litigation in the past and
Xfinity/Charter wanted these fees to go away. He stated he would
understand if this issue ends up in court again.
Ms. Wolfe provided the council with an update on the renovations that
were occurring at city hall.
ADJOURN
The Workshop was adjourned at 8:05PM.
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Agenda
Blaine City Hall
City of Blaine 10801 Town Sq Dr NE
Blaine MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Meeting Agenda - Final
City Council Workshop
While this is a public meeting where interested persons are
welcome to attend, it is a work session for City Council and staff
to discuss issues before them. It is not for the purpose of
receiving public input.
Monday, September 13, 2021 6:00 PM Council Chambers
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
In accordance with the provisions of Section 3.01 of the Blaine City Charter, a Council
Workshop meeting is scheduled for the following purpose:
1 Call to Order
2 Roll Call
3 New Business
3-1 WS 21-107 Northtown Area Revitalization and Redevelopment Planning Study Update
Sponsors: Thorvig
Attachments: Memo
3-2 WS 21-108 Council Requested Items for Discussion
Sponsors: Wolfe
3-3 WS 21-109 Proposed 2022 SBM Capital Budget
Sponsors: Smith
Attachments: Presentation
3-4 WS 21-110 2022 Proposed Special Revenue Funds Budget Discussion
Sponsors: Huss
Attachments: 2022 Communications Fund Proposed Budget
2022 Charitable Gambling Fund Proposed Budget
ADJOURN
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