City Council Workshop
Regular MeetingBlaine, MN · May 9, 2022
Minutes
Blaine City Hall
City of Blaine 10801 Town Sq Dr NE
Blaine MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Minutes
City Council Workshop
While this is a public meeting where interested persons are
welcome to attend, it is a work session for City Council and
staff to discuss issues before them. It is not for the purpose of
receiving public input.
Monday, May 9, 2022 6:00 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
1 Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Sanders at 6:00PM.
2 Roll Call
PRESENT: Mayor Tim Sanders, Councilmembers Wes Hovland, Chris
Massoglia, and Richard Paul. Also in attendance was Councilmember
Appointee Tom Newland.
Adjunct Member Drew Brown.
ABSENT: Councilmembers Julie Jeppson and Jess Robertson.
Quorum Present.
ALSO PRESENT: City Manager Michelle Wolfe; Community
Development Director Erik Thorvig; City Planner Sheila Sellman;
Community Development Specialist Elizabeth Showalter; Public Works
Director Jon Haukaas; Police Chief/Safety Services Manager Brian
Podany; Finance Director Joe Huss; Asset Manager Project Coordinator
Shawn Smith; Sergeant Zach Johnson; and City Clerk Catherine
Sorensen.
Present: 4 - Councilmember Paul, Councilmember Hovland, Massoglia, and Sanders
Absent: 2 - Councilmember Robertson, and Councilmember Jeppson
3 New Business
3-1 Council Requested Items for Discussion
Attachments: 11-01-2021 Workshop Memo
11-01-2021 Workshop Minutes
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Councilmember Massoglia stated he would like the council to discuss
earmarking TIF money to incentivize a high-end grocer in light of Hy-Vee
not coming to the community. He believed this would signal to the
community that the council was hearing the voices of residents.
Councilmember Hovland indicated he did not support this action
because the city council has never incentivized a business into the
community.
Tom Newland stated when the Blaine business council started several
years ago, a high-end grocer was always brought up. He reported Rob
Kowalski attended a business council meeting and told the group what
they were looking for. He believed marketing Blaine would help and with
Hy-Vee leaving there was a gap that needed to be filled. He supported
staff updating the council on a quarterly basis to see where this issue
stands.
Councilmember Paul stated he was of the opinion it was a good idea for
the council to discuss this issue further.
Mayor Sanders commented there was no question the council supported
the city having a high-end grocer and he understood this was a priority for
Councilmember Massoglia. He did not believe the council should spend
an entire workshop meeting on this topic but rather work with
Councilmember Massoglia and Community Development Director
Thorvig on this topic directly.
Councilmember Massoglia asked if the council would like to further
discuss short-term rentals or AirBNBs. He reported he has heard from
several members in the community that feel like they were living next to a
hotel and were experiencing parking concerns due to properties being
frequently rented. He supported the city having some parameters in
place to address short-term rentals.
Councilmember Hovland, Councilmember Paul, and Mayor Sanders
supported the council discussing this topic further.
10 Minute Discussion
3-2 Fleet Rightsizing Overview
Attachments: April 25, 2022 Blaine Fleet Rightsizing Report
City Manager Wolfe stated staff has had several discussions with the
council about the value of conducting a fleet rightsizing study. A fleet
rightsizing team composed of staff representing Finance, Public Works,
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and Safety Services developed a request-for-proposals and received
several responses. In November 2021, a consulting contract was
awarded to Management Partners. Work began on the study shortly
thereafter. In mid-March, Management Partners provided a draft report.
Members of the management and fleet rightsizing team reviewed the
draft and asked many questions for clarification and further
understanding. A revised report was received April 24. Staff noted
consultants were in attendance to discuss the results of the report.
Asset Manager Smith commented on his involvement with the fleet
rightsizing study and discussed how a committee of staff members
worked together to draft an RFP and analyze the study results. He
described the amount of work staff has been doing on the fleet study and
introduced Amy Paul and Greg Fassler from Management Partners to
the council.
Councilmember Hovland stated he recalled the city purchased a software
program 15 years ago that was supposed to assist the city with its fleet.
Mr. Smith explained the program was called Dossier, which was a fleet
management software. He noted the city was still using this program.
Amy Paul, Management Partners, thanked the council for their time and
commented on the work Management Partners does for municipalities.
She discussed the purpose of the fleet study noting the study was broken
into two parts: vehicle maintenance assessment and fleet rightsizing.
She reported the city had a good sound fleet operation and she was
simply offering suggestions for improvements. She reported documents
from Dossier were reviewed for the study and interviews were
conducted.
Greg Fassler, Management Partners, stated it was a pleasure to work
with Mr. Smith and the maintenance staff on this project. He discussed
what was working well for the city noting the fleet facility was more than
adequate, was well organized and had plenty of room for both staff and
vehicles. He reported the city was using one of the leading fleet
software’s in the fleet industry. He was encouraged by the fact the city
was following all requirements when acquiring and selling off vehicles. He
noted his primary concerns were with the lack of performance measures
and the absence of an accountable charge back system. The key take
aways from the vehicle maintenance operations were reviewed. He
indicated the creation of a fleet committee was discussed, noting the
purpose of this committee would be to discuss fleet issues and vehicle
replacements. He commented further on the importance of capturing
performance measures. He recommended the city set aside a training
budget for the city’s mechanics each year. He discussed staffing levels
noting he found the city was understaffed at this time and detailed the
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recommended staffing changes.
Mr. Fassler further discussed the assessment he did on the city’s fleet
and noted 115 units required immediate consideration for replacement,
with 93 of the units being 10 to 36 years old with three units over 45 years
old. He discussed how an older fleet requires more service and
mechanics in order to keep vehicles in service. He believed the city’s
replacement intervals were too long and commented on the replacement
plan followed by other municipalities. He then turned the presentation to
the rightsizing for the fleet, noting there were 21 vehicles that could be
removed from the fleet. He described how a centralized motor pool at city
hall would greatly benefit staff.
Councilmember Hovland questioned if the city had mechanics on staff
that were able to deal with small engines all the way up to snow plows.
Public Works Director Haukaas reported the city’s mechanics were all
certified and there were specialties within the group.
Mr. Newland stated the number of vehicles the city has was staggering.
He indicated the age of the vehicles was a testament to the city’s
mechanics and that they were able to keep them operational. He was of
the opinion the city did not need to add three additional staff members to
the vehicle maintenance crew. Mr. Haukaas stated it was a testament to
the city’s mechanics. He reported this study brought to light the lack of
oversight and resulting data. He commented on how the cost of repairs
and the run to failure model was impacting the city.
Ms. Wolfe discussed the point system that was proposed for replacing
vehicles noting there were multiple ways to filter through which vehicles
need to actually be replaced. She indicated this system would have to be
reviewed and adjusted on an annual basis. Mr. Fassler noted he was
proposing 15 years for sedans, which could be put into the system and
staff can then evaluate vehicles based on the point system.
Councilmember Hovland stated he appreciated the proposed point
system. He was of the opinion the age of vehicles should not be taken
into consideration as much as the hours of use, noting the street
sweepers are only used once or twice a year. Mr. Smith agreed the point
system would be valuable, along with further evaluating maintenance
costs.
Councilmember Paul commented on a previous discussion the council
had regarding the fleet and stated he was pleased with the results of this
study. He believed the study would greatly benefit the public works and
maintenance staff.
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Mr. Newland asked if staff had a value replacement cost for each of the
city’s vehicles. He estimated the fleet was valued at over $10 million.
Finance Director Huss explained if the service fund was established this
would give the city a good idea as to what this number would be. He
stated at this time he does not maintain this number.
Mayor Sanders thanked the team for their work and looked forward to
hearing more on the topic in the future.
60 Minute Discussion
3-3 MWF Apartment Proposal for 3795 Restwood Road
Attachments: Attachments
Powerpoint Slides
Community Development Specialist Showalter stated MWF Properties is
proposing construction of a 60-unit affordable apartment building at 3795
Restwood Road. The 4.3-acre parcel is adjacent to two manufactured
home parks, commercial uses in the city of Lexington, and two
nonconforming single-family homes. The project details are still being
refined which meant some details may change as the project
progresses. Staff commented further on the proposed affordable
housing project and requested feedback from the council.
Matt Yetzer, MWF Properties, discussed why an affordable housing
project would be great for this site. He explained he was drawn to the site
due to its access and visibility. He reported this site would be
competitive for Minnesota Housing grants. He commented on the
proposed finishes for the units and stated he believed this was a unique
project that would meet the needs of the community. He discussed the
comprehensive plan amendment change to high density, noting this
project would be on the low end of high density.
Councilmember Hovland questioned what the price point would be for a
two bedroom unit. Mr. Yetzer stated this would depend on the area
median income (AMI) structure. He estimated the unit would be
$1,200-1,300 per month.
Mayor Sanders thanked Mr. Yetzer for coming back to the council. He
asked for further information regarding the exterior materials that would
be used on the building and questioned if MWF had any other structures
completed in the metro area. Mr. Yetzer commented the exterior building
materials would be driven by the city and feedback received from the
neighbors. He anticipated the building would have cement fiber board
and stone. He stated MWF has over 2,200 units across the metro area
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and encouraged the council to visit the Boulevard apartment complex in
Mounds View.
Mr. Newland stated he knew this area and he supported the proposed
affordable housing project.
Councilmember Paul indicated he was impressed by the proposed
project and supported it moving forward. He appreciated the fact that the
affordability factor would have a range, which would meet the needs of
numerous families in the community.
Mayor Sanders asked if anyone opposed the comprehensive plan
amendment from medium density to high density.
Councilmember Massoglia stated this would depend on the financials for
the project. He believed this was a good spot for high density, but he had
concerns regarding the financials of the project. He indicated 12 units at
50% AMI was not a lot of units. He supported the city pursuing owner
occupied units versus rental. He explained he would rather see the city
using its pooled TIF dollars for a high end grocer or other commercial
users. He believed 10 years was a long time to offer TIF dollars
considering all of the other projects the city was working on. Ms.
Showalter stated staff could further investigate owner occupied housing
noting there were dollars available to address racial homeowner gaps.
She commented the council adopted a down payment assistant program
and noted three successful applications have been completed to date.
Mayor Sanders questioned if these specific TIF funds could be used for
the 105th Avenue redevelopment area. Ms. Showalter reported these
specific funds could only be used for pooled housing TIF districts. She
commented further on the opportunity cost of using TIF and noted the
Northtown area would have a separate TIF district.
Mayor Sanders asked how much TIF was available at this time. Ms.
Showalter stated the city had $1.1 million available. Community
Development Director Thorvig explained other funding would have to be
pursued in order to complete multiple affordable housing projects in the
city. Mr. Huss commented the path to using these funds would be easier
for this project than for a mixed housing project.
Mayor Sanders recommended the applicant speak with Councilmember
Robertson and Councilmember Jeppson regarding this project. He
stated he appreciated the creativity being used on this project and noted
he would support it moving forward with Option A for funding.
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Mr. Thorvig indicated timing was important for this project. He asked
when the applicant had to submit applications for other funding sources.
Mr. Yetzer stated the applications for Minnesota tax credits was due in
mid-July. He hoped to have an official decision from the council before
this time.
30 Minute Discussion
3-4 TH 65 Improvement Project Update
Mayor Sanders stated two members of the council were sitting at MSP in
hopes of getting to Washington DC yet tonight. He explained the federal
team and the city were working with both US Senators and
Representative Ehmer on getting the TH65 project on the federal funding
list. He commented from the state, the senate was proposing $15 million
in the transportation bill and $10 million in the general obligation bill for
TH65. However, he indicated he was uncertain if a bonding bill would be
approved. He reported he has greatly appreciated the efforts of the city’s
lobbyists.
Ms. Wolfe discussed the contract the council had approved with the
Ferguson Group for federal lobbying. She commented on the work that
was being done by these individuals and noted the council would be
receiving from both the federal and local lobbyists in June. She noted a
second group of lobbyists, the Jacobson team, was working to obtain
funding for additional city projects.
Councilmember Hovland stated he appreciated the work that was being
done on behalf of the city. However, he also wanted people to
understand that when state and federal funds were requested the criteria
or standards for the project may go up. Ms. Wolfe reported this had been
considered within the PEL study.
Mr. Haukaas invited the council to attend an open house at the NSC
which would be held on May 24. He explained another presentation
would be made to the Blaine International Village on May 17. He then
provided the council with an update on the Alternative 1A concept design
layout for the TH65 improvement project. The funding estimate for the
project was reviewed and it was noted the project would cost $166
million. It was noted staff was seeking numerous funding sources for this
project.
Councilmember Massoglia asked if Alternative 1A was the final option.
Mr. Haukaas stated this was the best option that would be recommended
to move forward.
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Councilmember Massoglia recommended 117th Avenue and Ulysses
Street be seen as a higher priority intersection. Mr. Haukaas noted these
were both MSA roadways and were in the city’s five year plan.
Mr. Newland questioned what the timeframe was for the TH65 project.
Mr. Haukaas commented this project was moving forward at a fast pace
and the best case scenario would have construction starting on 99th
Avenue in 2024. He explained if not all of the funding comes through the
project would begin in 2025 and would take six to eight years to
complete.
Mayor Sanders thanked staff for the update and for all of their work on
this project.
30 Minute Discussion
3-5 105th Avenue Ordinance Discussion
Attachments: Map of Rezoning Area
Draft Ordinance
City Planner Sellman stated the 105th Avenue/Radisson Road industrial
area has been identified in the 2040 Comprehensive Plan as a priority
redevelopment area. It has also been identified as one of the four priority
areas by the city council through the visioning process that occurred in
early 2021, and in the “Growth Management” portion of the city’s
strategic plan. Based on direction from the city council, the city will
embark on a visioning/design process for this area to assist in future
marketing and development efforts. The industrial area consists of older
industrial buildings that have either become antiquated due to their age
or have excessive outdoor storage which is not consistent with the vision
for the area. The EDA has been active in purchasing property over the
last five years and continues to discuss further acquisitions as properties
become available. The National Sports Center (NSC) and Metropolitan
Airports Commission (MAC) are also key property owners in this area.
Ms. Sellman reported general discussions by the city council identify this
as a potential “city core” where the city should encourage walkable,
entertainment type of uses that take advantage of the NSC and be an
amenity to Blaine residents and visitors. Staff is suggesting a
planning/design process that includes key stakeholders (city staff,
boards/commissions, city council, property owners, NSC and MAC) to
establish the vision for this area both visually and descriptively. An
important aspect is an architect assisting in creating the visual plan for
the area. Concept plans have been reviewed at recent workshop
sessions. The workshop on March 21, 2022, was the last opportunity to
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refine the plan prior to completion. After completion of the plan in April,
the first step is to establish a zoning district with standards and design
guidelines that will dictate development moving forward. The first
discussion on district uses took place at the April 11 workshop. Staff
anticipates finishing the discussion at the May 9 workshop with formal
actions occurring in June/July. The moratorium expires in August,
however, can be extended for an additional six months if needed to
complete the rezoning. Staff commented further regarding the plans for
the 105th Avenue area and requested feedback from the council on the
uses, parking and architectural requirements.
Mayor Sanders stated he supported the proposed general uses for the
105th Avenue area. He indicated he would like additional attractions to
be considered.
Councilmember Hovland suggested spas be an allowed use.
Mayor Sanders recommended spas remain an unpermitted use and
suggested if a great spa were to come forward the council could
consider this request separately. He stated he would rather see a large
project brought forward than to see a national fast food chain in this area.
Mr. Thorvig commented a national chain coffee shop may be interested
in this area.
Councilmember Paul asked what the association would be for. Ms.
Sellman stated there would be two separate associations, one for the
businesses and another for the homes. She explained the businesses
would pay dues that would assist in covering the maintenance of the
business district.
Mayor Sanders suggested fast casual restaurants be at least 2,000
square feet. Mr. Thorvig cautioned the council from taking this action
because there may be some fast casual restaurants that the city does
want that are only 1,000 square feet.
Mayor Sanders stated it would be critical for the council to be on the
same page with the developer in order to make this a unique area. Mr.
Thorvig explained that by not allowing drive-thrus many fast food
restaurants would be eliminated from this area.
Mayor Sanders indicated he was in favor of allowing flat roofs within the
residential area.
Mr. Newland recommended the housing has a mix of flat and peaked
roofs.
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Further discussion ensued regarding guest parking and the overall
parking needs for this area. It was noted parking was a moving target
and the architect was still working on this item.
Ms. Sellman asked if the council supported the use of neon and roof
signs.
Mayor Sanders indicated he supported the use of neon signs in this
area.
Councilmember Hovland and Mr. Newland agreed.
Councilmember Hovland explained he did not like the idea of roof signs.
He feared rooftop signage would be confusing to passersby.
Mayor Sanders stated he was not opposed to roof signs. Mr. Thorvig
stated roof signs could be very interesting if done well.
Mayor Sanders supported the city pursuing signage that had staying
power, was high end and cutting edge.
Mr. Newland asked if there was a development in the country that this
language was drawn from. Ms. Sellman stated the language comes from
Stillwater, Anoka, St. Louis Park, Dallas, Phoenix, and Nashville.
Councilmember Massoglia questioned if a cigar lounge should be
allowed.
Mayor Sanders suggested this use be considered on a case by case
basis.
30 Minute Discussion
4 Other Business
Councilmember Paul stated he has received calls from residents
complaining about pedestrians trying to cross Ulysses Street to access
Carol’s Restaurant.
Mayor Sanders reported he received several complaints as well and
noted he spoke to the Police Chief regarding this concern. He
recommended the complaints be forwarded to the City Engineer.
ADJOURN
The Workshop was adjourned at 8:56PM.
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Agenda
Blaine City Hall
City of Blaine 10801 Town Sq Dr NE
Blaine MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Meeting Agenda - Final
City Council Workshop
While this is a public meeting where interested persons are
welcome to attend, it is a work session for City Council and staff
to discuss issues before them. It is not for the purpose of
receiving public input.
Monday, May 9, 2022 6:00 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
In accordance with the provisions of Section 3.01 of the Blaine City Charter, a Council
Workshop meeting is scheduled for the following purpose:
1 Call to Order
2 Roll Call
3 New Business
3-1 WS 22-052 Council Requested Items for Discussion
Sponsors: Council
Attachments: 11-01-2021 Workshop Memo
11-01-2021 Workshop Minutes
10 Minute Discussion
3-2 WS 22-053 Fleet Rightsizing Overview
Sponsors: Wolfe
Attachments: April 25, 2022 Blaine Fleet Rightsizing Report
60 Minute Discussion
3-3 WS 22-055 MWF Apartment Proposal for 3795 Restwood Road
Sponsors: Showalter
Attachments: Attachments
30 Minute Discussion
3-4 WS 22-054 TH 65 Improvement Project Update
Sponsors: Wolfe
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30 Minute Discussion
3-5 WS 22-056 105th Avenue Ordinance Discussion
Sponsors: Sellman
Attachments: Map of Rezoning Area
Draft Ordinance
30 Minute Discussion
4 Other Business
ADJOURN
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