Park Advisory Board
Regular MeetingBlaine, MN · November 26, 2013
Minutes
10801 Town Square Dr.
City of Blaine Blaine MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Minutes - Final
Park Advisory Board
The Park Board is an advisory body to the City Council. One
of the Board’s functions is to hold
public meetings and make recommendations to the City
Council. For each item, the Board will
receive reports prepared by City staff, provide the
opportunity for public response, conduct Board
discussions and make recommendations. The City Council,
however, makes all final decisions on
these matters.
Tuesday, November 26, 2013 7:00 PM Council Chambers
1. Call To Order
Chair Bird called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
2. Roll Call
Staff Present: Nate Monahan, Program Supervisor; Jerome Krieger, Program
Supervisor; Bob Therres, Public Services Manager.
Present: 6 - Markle, Chair Bird, Das, Langenfeld, Lester, and Pribbernow
Absent: 1 - Leathers
3. Approval of Minutes
3.-1 PB 13-11 APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 22, 2013 PARK BOARD
MINUTES
Sponsors: Monahan
Attachments: OctoberMinutes.doc
Commissioner Markle requested the following corrections:
Page 6, section 5.2, 2nd paragraph from bottom of page, second
sentence, change “constraint” to “restraint.”
Page 8, section 5.4, second paragraph, add “Emerald” before Ash.
Commissioner Pribbernow requested the following corrections:
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Page 3, first paragraph, first sentence, change “Board” to “Bird”.
Moved by Markle, seconded by Das, that the Minutes be Approved. The Motion
was adopted unanimously.
4. Open Forum for Citizen Input
None.
5. New Business
5.-1 PB 13-12 PARK UPDATES
Sponsors: Monahan
Recognition of Eagle Scout, Matthew Choquette
Program Supervisor Monahan stated Matthew had painted several
signs in the parks and logged in over 133 hours. He stated Matthew
had also put wood chips around the signs. He thanked Matthew for all
of his hard work.
Mr. Choquette thanked the Park Board for coming up with the project
and helping him through it. He thanked his parents for their support
and the vendors who supplied the materials for the project.
5.2 Park Updates
Program Supervisor Monahan presented an update on Aurelia Park.
He indicated the first layer of asphalt had been put down. He noted
the courts would be north/south and the tennis court would be on the
west side of the asphalt and the basketball court would be on the east
side of the asphalt. A fence would be put in separating the two courts.
He indicated everything would be finished in the Spring.
Program Supervisor Monahan presented an update on Little Bit Park.
He indicated there was a little delay with the playground being put in,
but it should go in next week and the playground should be done by
the end of the week.
Program Supervisor Monahan presented an update on Happy Acres
Rink #3. He indicated the asphalt had been put down and the rinks
were being flooded now. Commissioner Langenfeld asked if the end
fencings were done. Program Supervisor Monahan responded they
would be done by December 20, when the rinks were opened, weather
permitting.
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Chairman Bird asked if there were more or less rinks. Program
Supervisor Krieger responded the number would stay the same, but
Quail Creek would be a larger rink and a trailer would be brought in to
serve as a warming house.
Commissioner Lester asked how many rinks would there be. Program
Supervisor Krieger responded four parks had warming houses and all
of them, except Happy Acres, had one hockey and one general rink.
He stated Happy Acres had additional hockey rinks. He noted there
were also parks that had just pleasure, general rinks with no lights or
supervision. He stated all of the parks and hours were on the website
as well as being published in the City brochure that went out last
week. He stated he also updated the hotline every day to inform
whether the rinks were open or closed.
Program Supervisor Krieger presented an update on Lexington
Athletic Complex. He indicated they had met with Carlson McCain to
go over the final concept plan. He stated the plan had basically stayed
the same since it was originally presented, except for the northeast
corner where a basketball court had been added and the playground
area was shifted to the west so there was ample parking.
Chair Bird asked which multi-purpose fields were lit. Program
Supervisor Krieger responded Field A and B would be lit along with
the northwest fields. The two fields along the east side close to the
homes would not be lit. He noted the building would have a meeting
room, storage space, garage, concession area and a picnic area on the
north side with a covered overhang. He stated there were also
restrooms in the building that could be accessed from either side of the
building as well as from the inside of the building.
Chair Bird asked how far the building was from the playground.
Program Supervisor Krieger responded it was approximately 200
yards.
Commissioner Langenfeld asked if the tennis and basketball courts
were lit. Program Supervisor Krieger responded the tennis courts
were, but not the basketball court.
Program Supervisor Krieger stated this had been presented to the
Council and they had told staff to proceed forward with planning and
budgeting. He stated they had met with finance to go over budgeting
and they were working on an up to date price. He indicated at this
time they were looking to use the funds out of the Capital
Improvement Fund. He stated this would go to the Council in January
and would need to pass on a 6-1 vote in order to use the money from
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the Capital Improvement Fund.
Public Services Manager Therres stated the City had a Capital
Improvement Fund, which was not a part of the Park Capital
Improvement Fund. He noted various funds had been placed in the
Capital Improvement Fund over the years and the Council had set
some guidelines for the use of those funds. He noted this was a loan
and would be paid back by the Park Department over time.
Chair Bird asked if the Council did not approve this by 6-1, what the
alternatives were. Public Services Manager Therres stated that was
the reason staff went to the Council first to see how they wanted to
proceed. He noted the Council said they were in support of
proceeding and this was the time to do it as an entire project.
Discussed
5.-2 PB 13-13 Follow up to Amend Dog Ordinance14-141 All dogs will be kept
under restraint by their owners at all tmes
.
Sponsors: Monahan
Attachments: Dog Ordinance.pdf
Program Supervisor Monahan presented a memorandum from the
Police Department regarding how other communities are handling pet
ordinances. He indicated a report from CSO Zuehlke had been
provided noting that the City Attorney believed the mention of a
capable person left too much to interpretation and believed the City’s
current definition of “restraint” made the Dog at Large ordinance
unenforceable. She indicated she had also spoken with an attorney at
the League of Minnesota Cities to inquire about civil liability
regarding dogs in City parks.
Chair Bird asked if there were any comments.
Bradley Caren(?sp), National Street, stated he had lived on National
Street for 14 years and had a 19 month old retriever. He stated he had
used Lochness Park a lot of the past 14 years and particularly over the
last year and a half. He stated he was here to comment on the recent
change on City policy regarding off leash dog walking at Lochness as
well as the City as a whole. He stated he understood this change
occurred due to the Police Department. He noted his other issue was
about requiring all dogs to be on leashes at all times in City parks. He
stated in the last year and a half, he had gone to Lochness Park at 8:30
a.m. and met up with many people who also had dogs and they would
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walk their dog around the hill and the lakes. He stated walking dogs
on leashes and walking dogs off leashes were two different activities.
He stated a Labrador retriever could not be exercised on a leash. He
noted dogs off leashes would run, play, swim, etc. He indicated this
was not a case of just walking a dog on or off leash. He stated one
confirmation of that was what happened a month or two ago when the
Police Department put its own laws on the ordinance and ramped up
enforcement and that constituted a policy change and what was okay
for years and years was not okay over the next month or two. He
stated now the dog needed to be under close proximity and had to
respond to the first command given. He noted most people did not
have children that behaved that well, and their dogs were under
control; they listened; and they were not a threat. He stated once the
Police put up posters, stopped people in the parking lot, and explained
what was required, most of the people stopped coming. He stated the
park was used by dog owners. He himself had logged over 700 hours
in the park and people had stopped coming out of the fear that the
Police would start issuing citations as they had said they would. He
stated the park was now basically empty. He noted yesterday he
stopped there in the morning and there was one car there, when
normally there would be many cars. He stated now there was an
empty park where before there was a nicely used park. He asked why
this change in city policy and he noted it was a change in policy. He
stated the ordinance might not have been changed, but the policy had
been changed and the abandonment of the park confirmed that. He
stated the posters the police department put up talked about the
ordinance and it related to the concerns to keep dogs from running on
city streets, but there were not any city streets at Lochness park; as
well as to make sure people were not bitten by dogs. He asked what
was the reason for this new regulation in the park. He indicated after
three calls to the police department, they agreed to provide him all of
the incidents at Lochness Park over the last two years. He stated he
did not know if all the incidents had been provided to the Board.
Chair Bird stated they did have those incidents. Mr. Caren stated over
the past three years there had been only three incidents, one being the
same dog that lived next to Lochness Park and got out of his contained
area. He stated another incident was when the dog was running loose.
He indicated no citation was issued and the Police Department had
handled it well. He acknowledged that was a violation of the
ordinance and he would have no complaint if a citation was issued.
He stated another incident happened in 2012, where a dog was loose,
and it took four minutes to resolve. He stated those three incidents
there was no indication of any harm being done. He indicated this did
not provide a dangerous situation and that was all there was to justify
what was now happening. He stated he went by there three times
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today and he saw one person. He noted he believed this was a very
sad and unfortunate result. He stated he did not know if there were
any complaints that had not made it into the records. He stated there
was one lady who “dragged” a small toy dog around with a leash and
there were some incidents with her. He stated he encountered her for
the first time when his dog ran up to her dog with both dogs wagging
their tales and they began to lick each other’s noses. However, she
started screaming that her dog was being attacked by his dog. He
stated he did not know if that woman had generated complaints, but
the people he met over there did not always have their dog right at
their side and sometimes the dog had to be called 2-3 times, but the
dogs were under control and were in the presence of their owners. He
stated the dogs were not running loose without supervision. He stated
he wanted to allow Lochness Park to remain what it was prior to the
recent Police enforcements. He stated he did not know why the Police
were now looking for dogs in the park. He noted there were over 40
off-leash dog parks in the metro area and Blaine was about the only
City who did not have an off-lease dog park. He read all of the 40
off-lease dog parks. He noted Minneapolis had nine off-leash dog
parks. He believed it would be unfortunate to drive any more people
away from Blaine by requiring all dogs to be on leashes in parks. He
stated the poster did cite the Ordinance and noted the incidents, but
this was what was not occurring in Lochness. He stated the ordinance
did not require dogs to be leashed in parks.
Amy Ellingson, Lino Lakes, stated she found a haven in Lochness
Park and this park served a purpose for her and her family. She stated
she was a nurse and believed in exercising her dogs every day. She
indicated they patronized The Village when they went to/from the
park. She stated she was surprised they were being treated like
criminals. She indicated now they have switched to the Maple Grove
dog park and patronized the Maple Grove shops instead. She
proposed they “share” the park by having hours that dogs had to be on
leashes and times that dogs did not have to be on leashes. She noted
she had never had any problems with her dogs and people wanting to
pet them.
Stan Nickle(?sp), Shoreview, stated they started coming to Lochness
as a group about 3 ½ years ago because it was closer to restaurants and
other activities they could not find at other dog parks. He stated they
would meet one and sometimes twice a week and would go to the
restaurants afterwards, but now they were not doing that. He stated
Lochness was a park they could walk in the winter because it was
paved and it was not as treacherous. He noted the dog walking was
not just for the dogs, but for the people as well and now they have lost
that connection.
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Chair Bird stated if the Police Department has changed their
enforcement or the strength of their enforcement that was something
the Police Department would need to address, as the Ordinance had
not changed. He stated the City had over 60 parks and what was
experienced at Lochness might not be occurring in the other parks
with unleashed dogs and incidents. He stated that might be a reason
why the enforcement was ramped up. He stated he has been in the city
since 1983 and since that time, Lochness was always being used as an
unleashed dog area, but that area had changed including a corporate
business and Frisbee golf. He stated the demographic of the park has
changed and that might be why the Police were now enforcing the
issue. He stated the Board has not decided if the ordinance should be
changed or not. He stated he was interested in the idea of allowing
dogs off leash during certain hour only in that park.
Commissioner Pribbernow stated while she was preparing for this
meeting she looked at best practices throughout the nation and the idea
of sharing a park was what Oakland, California was doing.
Mr. Caren stated a number of the people had thought if they could
have off-leash two or three hours in the morning (8:30 a.m. - 11:30
a.m.) that would be ideal and then the people who objected to it, they
could have the other hours. Chair Bird stated they would need to look
at this, but it might be an option until the City could find a location for
a dog park.
Program Supervisor Monahan stated they were looking at parks they
could use as a dog park, but nothing had been done further until more
people came forward saying they wanted a dog park. Chair Bird
requested City Staff contact the League of Minnesota Cities to see if
they had any information about having a shared park.
Program Supervisor Monahan stated he would also check with other
cities.
Chair Bird thanked everyone for coming in and giving their opinion.
Discussed
5.-3 PB 13-14 SWAN PARK FEATURE
Sponsors: Monahan
Attachments: Swan Park.pdf
Program Supervisor Monahan presented Swan Park’s feature. He
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noted in 1984 the park was developed. He outlined the amenities in
the park.
Informational: no action required
5.-4 PB 13-15 The December 24, 2013 Park Board meetng
Sponsors: Monahan
Program Supervisor Monahan stated the December Board meeting was
scheduled the day before a holiday. He recommended the December
meeting be cancelled.
Chair Bird noted as long as he had been on the Board, the December
meeting had been cancelled.
Motion by Commissioner Langenfeld, to cancel the December Park Board
meeting. Motion seconded by Commissioner Das.
Motion approved unanimously.
5.-5 PB 13-16 OTHER
Sponsors: Monahan
Attachments: 2013 holiday celebration flyer.pdf
Program Supervisor Monahan noted Program Supervisor Shari Kunza
started October 21 taking over for Tom Godfrey. He indicated she was
previously with the City and came back. He stated she was the
Program Supervisor in charge of the Winter Holiday Celebration.
He stated the Winter Holiday Celebration was being held on December
2 this year from 6:30 - 8:00 p.m.
Informational: no action required
9. Adjournment
Moved by Markle, seconded by Lester, that this Meeting be Adjourned. The
Motion was adopted unanimously. Chair Bird adjourned the meeting at 7:58
p.m.
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Agenda
City of Blaine
Anoka County, Minnesota
10801 Town Square Dr.
Blaine MN 55449
Meeting Agenda - Final
Tuesday, November 26, 2013
7:00 PM
Council Chambers
Park Advisory Board
The Park Board is an advisory body to the City Council. One of the Board’s functions
is to hold
public meetings and make recommendations to the City Council. For each item, the
Board will
receive reports prepared by City staff, provide the opportunity for public response,
conduct Board
discussions and make recommendations. The City Council, however, makes all final
decisions on
these matters.
Park Advisory Board Meeting Agenda - Final November 26, 2013
1. Call To Order
2. Roll Call
3. Approval of Minutes
3.-1 PB 13-11 APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 22, 2013 PARK BOARD
MINUTES
Sponsors: Monahan
Attachments: OctoberMinutes.doc
4. Open Forum for Citizen Input
Open Forum allows an opportunity for Citizens to address the Board with their park
concerns, which are not included on this agenda. Please raise your hand to be
recognized by the Chairperson. Step up to the microphone on the left side of the
chambers and announce your name and address before you present your comments.
5. New Business
5.-1 PB 13-12 PARK UPDATES
Sponsors: Monahan
5.-2 PB 13-13 Follow up to Amend Dog Ordinance14-141 All dogs will be kept
under restraint by their owners at all tmes
.
Sponsors: Monahan
Attachments: Dog Ordinance.pdf
5.-3 PB 13-14 SWAN PARK FEATURE
Sponsors: Monahan
Attachments: Swan Park.pdf
5.-4 PB 13-15 The December 24, 2013 Park Board meetng
Sponsors: Monahan
5.-5 PB 13-16 OTHER
Sponsors: Monahan
Attachments: 2013 holiday celebration flyer.pdf
9. Adjournment
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