Historic Landmark Commission
Regular MeetingBoerne, TX · December 2, 2019
Minutes
MINUTES
SPECIAL CALLED JOINT MEETING OF THE
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION, AND
ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 124 OLD SAN ANTONIO ROAD
Monday, December 2, 2019 - 4:00 PM
HLC Members Present: Shanna Bergmann, Cesar Hance, Justin Boerner,
Ben Adam, Mike Nichols, Stephen Kerr, Patti Mainz, Cali Redd
HLC Members Absent: Sherri Jo Adams
City Staff Present: Laura Talley, Stephanie Kranich, Rebecca Pacini, Sara
Serra, Mick McKamie, Jeff Thompson, Veronika Vasquez, Lori Carroll
1. CALL TO ORDER – 4:00 PM
Commissioner Adam called the Special Called Joint meeting of the
Historic Landmark Commission at 4:00 P.M.
2. PUBLIC COMMENTS: This is the opportunity for visitors and guests to address the
Historic Landmark Commission on any issue. The Historic Landmark Commission may
not discuss any presented issue, nor may any action be taken on any issue at this time.
(Attorney General opinion – JC-0169)
There were none.
3. DISCUSSION ITEMS:
2019-1154 · Open Government Laws - Open Meetings Act and Public
Information Act
2019-1155 · Ethics Ordinance
2019-1156 · Other Important Statutes
Mick McKamie, interim City Attorney, started the training by explaining
the background of The Texas Open Meetings Act and definition of
General Rule. He went on to discuss who is subject to the Act and what
is the definition of a governmental body. Each of the three boards that
are here today fit the definition of a governmental body because each of
these boards make final decisions or make recommendations to City
Council which are usually approved. Mick continued on by explaining
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what a quorum is and what constitutes a meeting. A quorum is a
majority of the board members. There are two definitions in what
constitutes a meeting. If there is a gathering of a quorum and anyone
asks a question about the Boards or Commissions then you're having a
meeting. Attendance at another entity's meeting and same or similar
subject is discussed about business and there is a quorum, then you're
having a meeting. Mick explained that you need to develop the habit of
asking the question "Is this a meeting?" The Act does not apply to social
functions, regional, state or national workshops. However, it does apply
to local workshops because it could result in an illegal meeting. It's legal
for council members and members of boards to discuss public business
or policy in online message boards when certain conditions are met.
Mick explained that if you have communications among each other
where a quorum is involved about the same or similar subject on a
matter your board deals with that could be a meeting. Be aware of your
communication in a meeting or outside a meeting. Mick went on to
explain the notice requirements. The more important the issue, the
more specific the notice should be. The Act says individual notice is not
typically required. If the City has a website, it must be posted on the
website as well. The public needs to have 24 hour access unless it is
posted on the website and then the physical notice just needs to be
readily accessible during normal business hours. Emergency meetings
need a two hour notice. Notice must describe the emergency meeting.
Mick explained what constitutes an emergency. Items of community
interest don't need notice. He continued on explaining recordkeeping. A
governmental body must prepare and keep minutes of a meeting or a
recording of each open meeting. He said many governmental bodies
keep recordings of the meetings. Minutes are prepared by Staff usually
and need to have at a minimum is the subject of each item and indicate
each vote and action taken. There are no legal requirements to be
verbatim. Meetings may not be convened unless a quorum is present
even when holding a meeting using video conference. If audio or video
communication is lost, a member is considered absent and you lose your
quorum. Americans with Disabilities Act requires meetings to be held in
rooms that are physically accessible to those with disabilities. Also,
members of the public have the right to record the meeting by audio or
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video tape. The governmental body may adopt reasonable rules to
maintain order in a meeting. Public has the right to speak before and
during consideration of the item. The public can ask questions about
items not on the agenda. However, it can't be discussed if it's not on the
agenda. Mick explained procedures and requirements and who may
attend for executive sessions. He said that you do not want to admit a
person whose presence is against the interests of the governmental
body. He also explained common exceptions to the procedures and
requirements of executive sessions. Mick went on to explain The Act's
provisions for violations and how it provides for civil remedies and
criminal penalties. Mick provided resources to include web links and
phone numbers. Mick explained the Ethics Ordinance and who it applies
to and what is the purpose of the Ethics Ordinance. He also explained
types of conflicts of interest. Mick explained the Boerne Ethics Ordinance
vs Texas Local Government Code as well as the Ethics Ordinance vs Texas
Penal Code.
4. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Adam adjourned the Special Called Joint meeting for the
Historic Landmark Commission at 5:44 P.M.
_______________________________
HLC Chairman
______________________________
HLC Secretary
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Agenda
AGENDA
SPECIAL CALLED JOINT MEETING OF THE
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION, AND
ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 124 OLD SAN ANTONIO ROAD
Monday, December 2, 2019 - 4:00 PM
1. CALL TO ORDER – 4:00 PM
2. PUBLIC COMMENTS: This is the opportunity for visitors and guests to address the
Historic Landmark Commission on any issue. The Historic Landmark Commission may
not discuss any presented issue, nor may any action be taken on any issue at this time.
(Attorney General opinion – JC-0169)
3. DISCUSSION ITEMS:
2019-1154 · Open Government Laws - Open Meetings Act and Public
Information Act
2019-1155 · Ethics Ordinance
2019-1156 · Other Important Statutes
4. ADJOURNMENT
_______________________________
Administrative Officer
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the above notice of meeting was posted by the 27th of
November, 5:00 p.m.
______________________________
Secretary
NOTICE OF ASSISTANCE AT THE PUBLIC MEETING
The Police/Municipal Court Complex is wheelchair accessible. Access to the building
and special parking is available at the front entrance of the building. Requests for
special services must be received forty-eight (48) hours prior to the meeting time
by calling the Planning and Community Development Office at 830-249-9511.
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Commission
Pursuant to Section 30.06 Penal Code (trespass by license holder with a concealed
handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code
(handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun.
Pursuant to section 30.07 Penal Code (trespass by license holder with an openly
carried handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government
Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a handgun that is
carried openly.
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