Historic Landmark Commission
Regular MeetingBoerne, TX · December 3, 2019
Minutes
MINUTES
HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING
BOERNE POLICE AND MUNICIPAL COURT COMPLEX, 124 OLD SAN ANTONIO ROAD
Tuesday, December 3, 2019 - 5:30 PM
HLC Members Present: Shanna Bergmann, Cesar Hance, Justin Boerner,
Ben Adam, Mike Nichols, Stephen Kerr, Patti Mainz, Cali Redd
HLC Members Absent: Sherri Jo Adams
City Staff Present: Veronika Vasquez, Stephanie Kranich, Sara
Serra-Bennett, Laura Talley
Guests: Sandra Conklin, William Conklin, Frank Valadez, Heather
Bradford, Connie Clark
1. CALL TO ORDER – 5:30 PM
Commissioner Adam called the Historic Landmark Commission meeting
to order at 5:30 P.M.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2019-1140 Request for approval of the Historic Landmark Commission
Minutes of November 5, 2019
COMMISSIONER NICHOLS MADE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE
HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 5, 2019.
COMMISSIONER BERGMANN SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION
CARRIED 7-0.
3. CONFLICT OF INTEREST DECLARATION
There were none.
4. PUBLIC COMMENTS: This is the opportunity for visitors and guests to address the
Historic Landmark Commission on any issue. The Historic Landmark Commission may
not discuss any presented issue, nor may any action be taken on any issue at this time.
(Attorney General opinion – JC-0169)
There were none.
ACTION ITEMS:
5. 2019-1141 Request for approval for a Certificate of Appropriateness for a 2.5
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ft tall x 12 ft in length awning sign located at 705 South Main
Street, KAD No. 23848. (Catrina’s Interiors).
Ms. Laura Talley explained the request for an awning sign located at the
rear of the building. Staff is supportive and recommends approval.
COMMISSIONER KERR MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR A
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A 2.5 FT TALL X 12 FT IN LENGTH
AWNING SIGN LOCATED AT 705 SOUTH MAIN STREET, KAD NO. 23848.
(CATRINA’S INTERIORS), WITH THE CONDITION THAT IT BE ALLOWED TO BE
BOTH WITHOUT LIGHTING OR INTERNALLY LIT. COMMISSIONER HANCE
SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 6-1 (COMMISSIONER
NICHOLS DISSENTED).
6. 2019-1142 Request for approval for a Certificate of Appropriateness for a 3’ x
10’ wall sign located at 102 South Main Street, KAD No. 19894
(Sandra Morning Conklin Art). Take necessary action.
Ms. Laura Talley explained the request for a wall sign. Staff is supportive
and recommends approval.
Mr. William Conklin, representative for the business owner, explained
the design of the sign and stated they are open to suggestions and will
agree to revisions to the proposed sign.
COMMISSIONER MAINZ MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR A
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A 3’ X 10’ WALL SIGN LOCATED AT
102 SOUTH MAIN STREET, KAD NO. 19894 (SANDRA MORNING CONKLIN
ART), WITH THE CONDITION THE PALETTE WITH PAINT COLORS BE REMOVED.
COMMISSION KERR SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
7. 2019-1143 Request for approval for a Certificate of Appropriateness for a 2’ x
4’ awning sign located at 102 South Main Street, KAD No. 19894
(Sandra Morning Conklin Art). Take necessary action.
Ms. Laura Talley explained the request for the awning sign. Staff is
supportive and recommends approval.
Mr. Conklin explained how the sign would be hung and attached onto
the building.
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COMMISSIONER NICHOLS MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR
A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR A 2’ X 4’ AWNING SIGN LOCATED
AT 102 SOUTH MAIN STREET, KAD NO. 19894 (SANDRA MORNING CONKLIN
ART), WITH THE CONDITION THE PALETTE AND COLORS BE REMOVED.
COMMISSION MAINZ SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
8. 2019-1144 Request for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness for five
painted steel awnings located at 470 South Main Street, KAD No.
22828 (Cibolo 470 Group). Take necessary action.
Ms. Laura Talley explained the request for five painted steel awnings.
Ms. Frank Valadez, architect for the business owner, explained the
request and design of the painted steel awnings. Mr. Valadez explained
the reason for the new request of steel awnings, to replace the
previously approved fabric awnings. Mr. Valadez is requesting steel
awnings to provide a more industrial look. Mr. Valadez stated the slope
of each awning is a quarter inch per foot.
Commissioner Nichols asked about placing a tongue and grove
underneath the awnings when people looked up to help provide a more
detailed look. Commissioner Nichols asked to give the support brackets a
hammered or beaten texture to them for a less factory look.
Commissioner Nichols asked regarding the slope of the awnings.
COMMISSIONER NICHOLS MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR
A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR FIVE PAINTED STEEL AWNINGS
LOCATED AT 470 SOUTH MAIN STREET, KAD NO. 22828 (CIBOLO 470 GROUP),
WITH THE CONDITIONS TXDOT MUST APPROVE AND THE PAINTED AWNINGS
BE IN INKWELL AND THE AWNINGS UNDERNEATH HAVE SOME TYPE OF
DETAIL TO HIDE THE METAL FLOORING. COMMISSIONER KERR SECONDED
THE MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
9. 2019-1145 Request for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness for
wrap-around painted steel balcony on corner facing east and
southeast located at 470 South Main Street, KAD No. 22828
(Cibolo 470 Group). Take necessary action.
Ms. Laura Talley explained the request for the wrap-around painted
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steel balcony. Staff recommendation would be for spindles and not the
proposed mesh for the balcony's material.
Mr. Frank Valadez, architect for the business owner, explained the
proposed design of the balcony. Mr. Valadez stated the spindles which
Staff has recommended visually block the brick and does not provide a
good visual, however the mesh meets code and is transparent to see the
brick.
Commissioner Nichols requested wooden detail underneath the floor of
the balcony as with the steel awnings. Mr. Valadez confirmed there
would also be wooden detail underneath the proposed balcony for
people looking up. Commissioner Nichols expressed concern regarding
the wrap-around portion and not conforming to historic architect.
COMMISSIONER KERR MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST OF A
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR WRAP-AROUND PAINTED STEEL
BALCONY ON CORNER FACING EAST AND SOUTHEAST LOCATED AT 470
SOUTH MAIN STREET, KAD NO. 22828 (CIBOLO 470 GROUP), WITH THE
CONDITION THAT THEY USE MESH RATHER THEN SPINDLES, PAINTED IN
INKWELL, WOODEN UNDERNEATH TO PROVIDE A MORE DETAILED LOOK TO
THE CEILING OF THE COVERING AS PEOPLE LOOK UP AND SUBJECT TO TXDOT
APPROVALS. COMMISSIONER BOERNER SECONDED THE MOTION. THE
MOTION CARRIED 7-0
10. 2019-1146 Request for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness for
exterior lighting located at 470 South Main Street, KAD No. 22828
(Cibolo 470 Group). Take necessary action.
Ms. Laura Talley explained the proposed gooseneck lighting for future
signage.
Mr. Frank Valadez, architect for the business owner, explained the
design and locations of the lighting fixtures.
Commissioner Nichols expressed his concerns regarding such a high
number of gooseneck lighting fixtures depicted in the building plan,
totaling 23.
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COMMISSIONER NICHOLS MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST OF A
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR EXTERIOR LIGHTING LOCATED AT
470 SOUTH MAIN STREET, KAD NO. 22828 (CIBOLO 470 GROUP), WITH THE
CONDITION THERE IS A PROPORTIONATE OF LIGHTING AND APPROVAL BY
CITY STAFF AND COLOR TO BE BLACK. COMMISSIONER KERR SECONDED THE
MOTION. THE MOTION CARRIED 7-0.
11. DISCUSSION ITEMS:
2019-1147 a. Presentation by Carissa Cox with Mosaic to discuss Sign
Chapters of the UDC
Ms. Laura Talley spoke regarding the revisions made to the Sign chapters
of the UDC and introduced Ms. Carissa Cox, with Mosaic.
Ms. Cox explained the revisions of the current sign chapters and an
additional sign chapter that was created. She requested additional
feedback from the Commission.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Adam adjourned the Historic Landmark Commission
meeting at 7:53 P.M.
THE CITY OF BOERNE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION RESERVES THE RIGHT TO
ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME TO DISCUSS ANY OF THE MATTERS
LISTED ABOVE, AS AUTHORIZED BY TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE §551.071
(CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY).
_______________________________
HLC Chairman
______________________________
HLC Secretary
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Agenda
AGENDA
HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION MEETING
BOERNE POLICE AND MUNICIPAL COURT COMPLEX, 124 OLD SAN ANTONIO ROAD
Tuesday, December 3, 2019 - 5:30 PM
1. CALL TO ORDER – 5:30 PM
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2019-1140 Request for approval of the Historic Landmark Commission
Minutes of November 5, 2019
Attachments: 19 -1105 Meeting Minutes Nov2619
3. CONFLICT OF INTEREST DECLARATION
4. PUBLIC COMMENTS: This is the opportunity for visitors and guests to address the
Historic Landmark Commission on any issue. The Historic Landmark Commission may
not discuss any presented issue, nor may any action be taken on any issue at this time.
(Attorney General opinion – JC-0169)
ACTION ITEMS:
5. 2019-1141 Request for approval for a Certificate of Appropriateness for a
2.5 ft tall x 12 ft in length awning sign located at 705 South Main
Street, KAD No. 23848. (Catrina’s Interiors).
Attachments: Summary - 705 S. Main - Sign
Att 1 - 705 S. Main - Aerial Map
Att 2 - 705 S. Main - Signage Photos
6. 2019-1142 Request for approval for a Certificate of Appropriateness for a 3’
x 10’ wall sign located at 102 South Main Street, KAD No. 19894
(Sandra Morning Conklin Art). Take necessary action.
Attachments: Summary - 102 S. Main - Wall Sign
Att 1 - 102 S. Main - Aerial Map
Att 2 - 102 S. Main - Rendering
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Commission
7. 2019-1143 Request for approval for a Certificate of Appropriateness for a 2’
x 4’ awning sign located at 102 South Main Street, KAD No.
19894 (Sandra Morning Conklin Art). Take necessary action.
Attachments: Summary - 102 S. Main - Awning Sign
Att 1 - 102 S. Main - Aerial Map
Att 2 - 102 S. Main - Awning Rendering
8. 2019-1144 Request for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness for five
painted steel awnings located at 470 South Main Street, KAD No.
22828 (Cibolo 470 Group). Take necessary action.
Attachments: Summary - 470 S. Main - Metal Awnings
Att 1 - 470 S. Main - Aerial Map
Att 2 - 470 S. Main - Exhibit & Renderings
9. 2019-1145 Request for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness for
wrap-around painted steel balcony on corner facing east and
southeast located at 470 South Main Street, KAD No. 22828
(Cibolo 470 Group). Take necessary action.
Attachments: Summary - 470 S. Main - Balcony
Att 1 - 470 S. Main - Aerial Map
Att 2 - 470 S. Main - Exhibit & Renderings
10. 2019-1146 Request for approval of a Certificate of Appropriateness for
exterior lighting located at 470 South Main Street, KAD No. 22828
(Cibolo 470 Group). Take necessary action.
Attachments: Summary - 470 S. Main - Lighting
Att 1 - 470 S. Main - Aerial Map
Att 2 - 470 S. Main - Exhibit & Renderings
Att 3 - Proposed gooseneck lighting design
11. DISCUSSION ITEMS:
2019-1147 a. Presentation by Carissa Cox with Mosaic to discuss Sign
Chapters of the UDC
ADJOURNMENT
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THE CITY OF BOERNE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION RESERVES THE RIGHT TO
ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ANY TIME TO DISCUSS ANY OF THE MATTERS
LISTED ABOVE, AS AUTHORIZED BY TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE §551.071
(CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY).
_______________________________
Administrative Officer
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the above notice of meeting was posted by the 27th of
November, 5:00 p.m.
______________________________
Secretary
NOTICE OF ASSISTANCE AT THE PUBLIC MEETING
The Police/Municipal Court Complex is wheelchair accessible. Access to the building
and special parking is available at the front entrance of the building. Requests for
special services must be received forty-eight (48) hours prior to the meeting time
by calling the Planning and Community Development Office at 830-249-9511.
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handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code
(handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun.
Pursuant to section 30.07 Penal Code (trespass by license holder with an openly
carried handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government
Code (handgun licensing law), may not enter this property with a handgun that is
carried openly.
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