Town Council - Ordinance & Rules Committee
Regular MeetingBraintree, MA · September 21, 2021
Minutes
Braintree Town Council MEMBERS
David Ringius, Jr, Chairman
Committee on Ordinance & Rules Steven Sciascia, Vice- Chairman
One JFK Memorial Drive Julia Flaherty, Member
Braintree, Massachusetts 02184 Lawrence Mackin, Jr, Member
September 21, 2021
MINUTES
A meeting of the Committee on Ordinance & Rules was held in Johnson Chambers on Tuesday,
September 21, 2021 beginning at 6:00pm.
Chairman Ringius was in the Chair.
Clerk of the Council, Susan Cimino conducted the roll call.
Present: David Ringius, Jr, Chairman
Steven Sciascia, Vice-Chairman
Julia Flaherty, Member
Lawrence Mackin, Jr, Member
Also Present: Nicole Taub, Chief of Staff/Town Solicitor
Crystal Huff, Assistant Town Solicitor
Stephen C. O’Brien, Councilor District 4
David Ringius, Jr, Chairman of the Committee on Ordinance & Rules asked for a moment of silence for
our first responders and all those serving our military home and abroad.
Approval of Minutes
• May 3, 2021
A Motion was made by Councilor Sciascia to take off the TABLE Minutes of May 3, 2021
Motion: by Councilor Sciascia to take off the TABLE Minutes of May 3, 2021
Second: by Councilor Flaherty
Vote: For (4 – Flaherty, Mackin, Ringius, Sciascia), Against (0), Absent (0), Abstain (0)
A Motion was made by Councilor Sciascia Approve Minutes of May 3, 2021
Motion: by Councilor Sciascia to Approve Minutes of May 3, 2021
Second: by Councilor Flaherty
Vote: For (4 – Flaherty, Mackin, Ringius, Sciascia), Against (0), Absent (0), Abstain (0)
• June 14, 2021
A Motion was made by Councilor Sciascia to Approve Minutes of June 14, 2021
Motion: by Councilor Sciascia to Approve Minutes of June 14, 2021
Second: by Councilor Flaherty
Vote: For (4 – Flaherty, Mackin, Ringius, Sciascia), Against (0), Absent (0), Abstain (0)
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Old Business
• 20 034 Councilor O’Brien: 8.800 Single-Use Plastic Bag Reduction Bylaw or take up any action
relative thereto
Chairman Ringius asked for a Motion to Take off the Table Order 20 034
A Motion was made by Councilor Sciascia to Take off the TABLE Order 20 034
Motion: by Councilor Sciascia to Take off the TABLE Order 20 034
Second: by Councilor Flaherty
Vote: For (4 – Flaherty, Mackin, Ringius, Sciascia), Against (0), Absent (0), Abstain (0)
Chairman Ringius stated this evening I would like to get updates as to how we move forward on
these items before us.
Chairman Ringius stated at our last Town Council meeting we had a presentation from the Girl
Scouts. This is a project they have been doing. Councilor O’Brien had come up with this idea and for
the girl scouts to address this. Then COVID came and there was a restriction to only use plastic bags
so it became a moot point. O&R placed this on the Table until we could have the Girl Scouts before a
live audience. I have had various organizations reach out to me including those with disabilities and
small businesses. The Chamber reached out and has some things they would like to talk about in
regards to a ban like this. There is also a Bill pending up at the State level in regards to this as well.
Tonight, I would like to hear from you on who we might like to see come before us to discuss this and
whether or not we want to bring the Girl Scouts back and/or other groups.
Councilor Sciascia stated I would like to hear from the business community especially stores heavily
reliant on plastic bags. If the State Reps can chime in on if/when there will be a State level ban.
Councilor Flaherty stated I think we should bring Sustainable Braintree forward and have them
speak.
Nicole Taub, Chief of Staff stated I agree there will be several Stakeholders that will be impacted by
this. No doubt there will be a positive environmental effect but I would urge we talk to the business
community, the elderly community, the disabled community. These are all residents that could feel
the effects of something like this. In the Legislative history this has been something the State has
been trying to take up since I think 2019. There are a couple drafts currently pending up at the State
House. I do not know when we will see a State level ban but I do agree if we do get a sense that one
is coming, there is certainly value in waiting a little bit so we are not working to passing something
that will be pre-empted or in conflict with the State law. We can look at the legalities of the current
draft and other communities that have some kind of single-use ban or restriction. We can look to see
if we do support something like this that it is the best of what is out there.
Chairman Ringius stated we should have the business community, the Chamber, State delegation,
Sustainable Braintree; we might want to invite the Girl Scouts back depending on their schedule but
to follow through and get this kick started. Jeff Kunz would be a great person to have here as well.
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Chairman Ringius stated it would be good to get some of these groups on the line and see if they
could come before us.
Chairman Ringius stated Clerk Cimino and I could draft a letter to our State delegation to get an
update from either the Senators or Rep Cusack on where this stands on the State level. We could
also touch-base with the other Stakeholders and see if they might be available.
Chairman Ringius asked if there was a Motion to Table Order 20 034 to a future meeting.
A Motion was made by Councilor Sciascia to TABLE Order 20 034.
Motion: by Councilor Sciascia to TABLE Order 20 034 to a future meeting
Second: by Councilor Flaherty
Vote: For (4 – Flaherty, Mackin, Ringius, Sciascia), Against (0), Absent (0), Abstain (0)
• 21 028 Mayor: Ordinance to Establish Anti Blight Program or take up any action relative thereto
Chairman Ringius asked for a Motion to Take off the Table Order 21 028
A Motion was made by Councilor Sciascia to Take off the TABLE Order 21 028
Motion: by Councilor Sciascia to Take off the TABLE Order 21 028
Second: by Councilor Flaherty
Vote: For (4 – Flaherty, Mackin, Ringius, Sciascia), Against (0), Absent (0), Abstain (0)
Chairman Ringius stated this was discussed at O&R on June 14, 2021. Committee voted to send it to
the full Council with a favorable recommendation (3 in favor/1 opposed). On June 15, 2021 at the
full Council meeting this was referred back to O&R. We are waiting on an updated memo with
revisions from the Mayor’s office.
Chairman Ringius asked if anyone from the Mayor’s staff would like to speak this evening.
Nicole Taub stated after the last meeting the Mayor and I met with the Chamber discussing what
impacts this might have on the business community and started a dialogue about possible revisions
to the language that was before this committee previously. We should have a new proposal for this
committee in the next couple weeks. We are also thinking about item 002 21 Councilor Sciascia’s
proposal and thinking how to address issues with residential properties as with abandoned and
vacant properties. We are looking to draft a commercial vacant property and a residential vacant
property distinction. We hope to have this to you by the second October Town Council meeting.
Chairman Ringius stated the Chamber had some issues they would like addressed as in definitions.
Ms. Taub asked for that contact information.
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Chairman Ringius asked if there was a Motion to Table Order 21 028 to a future meeting.
A Motion was made by Councilor Sciascia to TABLE Order 21 028
Motion: by Councilor Sciascia to TABLE Order 21 028 to a future meeting
Second: by Councilor Flaherty
Vote: For (4 – Flaherty, Mackin, Ringius, Sciascia), Against (0), Absent (0), Abstain (0)
• 002 21 Councilor Sciascia/Councilor Connors: Amendment to By-law Section 135-1101 or take up
any action relative thereto
Chairman Ringius asked for a Motion to Take off the Table item 002 21
A Motion was made by Councilor Sciascia to Take off the TABLE item 002 21
Motion: by Councilor Sciascia to Take off the TABLE item 002 21
Second: by Councilor Flaherty
Vote: For (4 – Flaherty, Mackin, Ringius, Sciascia), Against (0), Absent (0), Abstain (0)
Chairman Ringius stated this item is a proposal for the residential side of things as Order 21 028 is
more for the commercial side of things.
Councilor Sciascia stated yes we want to see both components in the final product.
Chairman Ringius stated the Mayor is meeting and discussing this with Councilor Sciascia and
Councilor Connors.
Nicole Taub stated yes and there are some portions of this draft that the Mayor would not
necessarily incorporate into his. We will do the revisions for the Anti-Blight and then do a side-by-
side and see what fits together and what should stand alone.
Chairman Ringius asked if there was a Motion to Table item 002 21 to a future meeting.
A Motion was made by Councilor Sciascia to TABLE item 002 21
Motion: by Councilor Sciascia to TABLE item 002 21
Second: by Councilor Flaherty
Vote: For (4 – Flaherty, Mackin, Ringius, Sciascia), Against (0), Absent (0), Abstain (0)
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• 054 20 Councilor Mackin: Motion to Establish an Independent Peterson Pool Oversight
Authority/Committee or take up any action relative thereto
Chairman Ringius asked for a Motion to Take off the Table item 054 20
A Motion was made by Councilor Sciascia to Take off the TABLE item 054 20
Motion: by Councilor Sciascia to Take off the TABLE item 054 20
Second: by Councilor Flaherty
Vote: For (4 – Flaherty, Mackin, Ringius, Sciascia), Against (0), Absent (0), Abstain (0)
Chairman Ringius stated this was proposed by Councilor Mackin but he mentioned broadening this
oversight committee.
Councilor Mackin stated he would like to change this proposal and would like to think a little bigger
on this committee. Make a committee on municipal oversight. Rather than have a narrowly focused
Petersen Pool Committee it would be better to expand it a little bit to all large Town projects that
would happen going forward. I did write something up but only submitted it to the Chairman.
Clerk Cimino stated she did not receive this new documentation. It is suggested to withdraw the
Petersen Oversight Committee and submit the new request to the Clerk of the Council so it can
follow the proper steps and be referred to the Committee on Ordinance & Rules on a Town Council
agenda. We need to have some language before us on which to discuss and vote.
Councilor Mackin stated he would like to WITHDRAW this current item 054 20.
New Business
• 003 21 Councilor Sciascia: Inclusionary Amendment or take up any action relative thereto
Chairman Ringius stated this was put on hold as we wait for a legal opinion from Solicitor Huff.
Crystal Huff, Assistant Town Solicitor stated I found this to be legally sufficient. I did not find
anything that violated any of the other Town ordinances. Councilor Sciascia’s amendment brings
proposes some definition amendments. He brings forward an inclusionary housing amendment
which would include certain requirements for units to be eligible under subsidized housing and has
some other relevant terms in here and conditions related thereto. He puts it in a threshold of 3 units
to trigger the affordability.
Nicole Taub stated there have been conversations with the Mayor about the importance of this and
formalizing this in the by-laws. There has been discussion and a revision of drafts including from the
Planning Department, the Mayor and Solicitor Huff. What we shared with Councilor Sciascia is a
revised proposal from the Mayor that is an Inclusionary Housing By-Law but it is different in some
respects from the one proposed from Councilor Sciascia. We are trying to broaden this to not tie our
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hands down the road. I will share this proposal with this Committee. We will continue to work with
Councilor Sciascia and the Planning Department on.
Councilor Sciascia stated I am happy to continue working on this with the Mayor’s office. I have not
read the Mayor’s proposal in the entirety. I have noticed some of the points of disagreement are still
the way the Planning Department wanted it. I feel pretty strongly about some of those things. At
the end of the day, I want this to pass. If I have to give in on something then that is fine. I feel some
of these changes being proposed are ill advised.
Chairman Ringius asked Councilor Sciascia if there is a specific note you would like to address.
Councilor Sciascia stated there are a couple areas. Definitions I will leave that up to Legal. The
Planning Department has proposed changing the existing Zoning Law. Zoning states you have single
family house, 2 family and then apartment buildings.
Solicitor Huff stated it goes Dwelling: 1 family, 2 family and Multi (which is anything more than 2).
Apartment house is also anything more than 2 as well. Apartment house and Multi dwelling is
redundant and confusing. It makes sense to lump both definitions together and eliminate Apartment
house definition.
Councilor Sciascia stated there is a proposal to amend the Use Table. That is the part I do not think
we should get into.
Solicitor Huff stated we are looking to separate Multi-family from 2-family. Right now they are
lumped together. This is an opportune moment to move 2-family away from Multi-family. We had
to do this to clean it all up.
Councilor Sciascia stated my suggestion was to change the definition of Apartment house.
Solicitor Huff stated we would then have to change the Table of Uses. It is not in there.
Councilor Sciascia stated if we can do this without changing the Table of Uses it would be a strong
preference to not change it.
Councilor Sciascia stated 15% that applies to Multi-family housing. My proposal applies that 15% to
any Multi-family housing with a net addition of 5 units or more.
Solicitor Huff stated it would be difficult to get a permit to increase the number of units.
Nicole Taub stated we will clarify how the fractions will round up.
Councilor Flaherty asked if any ground work has been done with the residents. There was a big push
to not make any Zoning changes without a Master Plan. Will we let residents know this is being
considered? I would like to see something put into place.
Nicole Taub stated because this is a Zoning Amendment only certain bodies can do this. It will follow
the correct process and there will be Public Hearings along the way. We can see if Neighborhood
meetings could happen along the way.
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Councilor Flaherty stated you cannot talk about and educate the public at the same time.
Councilor Sciascia stated I am still committed to having additional meetings on this. We are not
trying to sneak this by anybody. We want everyone on board.
Chairman Ringius stated I think this does have broad support throughout the Town.
Councilor Sciascia stated we should table this and bring it back for discussion at a later date with the
revisions.
Chairman Ringius asked if there was a Motion to Table item 003 21 to a future meeting.
A Motion was made by Councilor Sciascia to TABLE item 003 21
Motion: by Councilor Sciascia to TABLE item 003 21
Second: by Councilor Flaherty
Vote: For (4 – Flaherty, Mackin, Ringius, Sciascia), Against (0), Absent (0), Abstain (0)
It was unanimously voted by Roll Call to adjourn the meeting at 6:55 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Susan M. Cimino
Clerk of the Council
Documents provided for Meeting
• Minutes of May 3 ,2021
• Minutes of June 14 ,2021
• 20 034 Councilor O’Brien: 8.800 Single-Use Plastic Bag Reduction Bylaw or take up any action
relative thereto
• 054 20 Councilor Mackin: Motion to Establish an Independent Peterson Pool Oversight
Authority/Committee or take up any action relative thereto
• 002 21 Councilor Sciascia/Councilor Connors: Amendment to By-law Section 135-1101 or take up any
action relative thereto
• 21 028 Mayor: Ordinance to Establish Anti Blight Program or take up any action related thereto
• 003 21 Councilor Sciascia: Inclusionary Amendment or take up any action relative thereto
September 21, 2021 Committee on Ordinance & Rules 7 of 7
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