Police and Fire Retirement Board
Regular MeetingCenter Line, MI · November 12, 2019
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The regular meeting of the Center Line Police and Fire Pension Board was called to order at
2:32 p.m. by Danny Petroff.
Members Present: Danny Petroff, Bernadette Helkowski, Deputy Treasurer Gregory Suma and
Michael Gerald.
Members Absent: Richard Stys.
Also, Present: Tim Brice from Morgan Stanley's Graystone Consulting.
AGENDA ITEM 2 A. - Approval of the Agenda
Motion by Trustee Suma to approve the agenda was seconded by Trustee Helkowski.
AYES:4
NAYS: None Motion carried 4 - 0.
ABSENT: Richard Stys
AGENDA ITEM 3 - Public Comment
Seeing there was no one in the audience this item was closed.
AGENDA ITEM 4 - Approval of the minutes
A. Approval of the Regular Meeting Minutes held on September 10, 2019.
A motion by Trustee Helkowski to approve the minutes was seconded by Trustee Gerald.
AYES:4
NAYS: None Motion carried 4 - 0.
ABSENT: Richard Stys
B. Approval of the Special Meeting Minutes held on October 18, 2019.
A motion by Trustee Gerald to approve the minutes was seconded by Trustee Helkowski.
AGENDA ITEM 5 - Remembrances
A. None
AGENDA ITEM 6 - Presentations:
A. Tim Brice from the Graystone Group of Morgan Stanley.
i. On The Markets - Sticking With It dated: November 2019.
ii. Money Manager performances through September 30, 2019.
Mr. Brice first addressed the On The Markets handout. He said he will be addressing our index
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managers a little bit later in the presentation. The CIO believes all things are good with the
markets for the long-term. Liquidity is still there as the FED has lowered interest rates. There is
positive sentiment on the markets as there be some resolution to the trade and tariff issues still
pending. The CIO feels that this positive information with the markets are driving passive
investors to be active in the markets. The CIO believes the passive benchmark is now
overweight by ten percent. The CIO goes on to say to stick to a defensive strategy as it applies
to indexing as there is a risk of a correction which is the highest since July 2019.
Mr. Brice then asked the Board to open the money manager performance book to tab 2 page 1.
We have made withdrawals from the system of nearly $ 700,000.00 to pay benefits but have
added $ 1,627,979.00 in growth for over a $ 900,000.00 net gain to the portfolio through
September 30, 2019. As of the close of the markets on November 11, 2019, our portfolio is up
1 8.98% gross year to date.
Through September 30, 2019 the Portfolio is up 15.94% while our Policy Index is up 14.28%.
Our fixed income managers have beat the Barclays Aggregate index which is up 8.52% year to
date while Boyd up 1 0.28% and Western up 1 0.99% over the same time period as the index.
Interest rates have dropped significantly since last year so there may be not as much
appreciation in bond returns going forward.
Mr. Brice addressed the value managers next. The Russell 1000 Value Index is up through
September 30, 2019 at 17.81% and Confluence is up 28.145, Delaware is up 14.16% and our
IShares Russell 1000 Value ETF is up 17.27%. Trustee Suma asked what attributed to the
growth in the Confluence portfolio. Mr. Brice said they are a relative value manager meaning
they made choices against sectors that did not perform well like healthcare, energy etc. They
made wise choices on sectors. Trustee Petroff asked Mr. Brice about the negative 7.54% return
for 2018 and asked if it was for a quarter or for the year. Mr. Brice said for the year. As you
remember, 2018 for the most part was a good year but was all sold off in the last quarter.
Mr. Brice addressed the two Index Funds run by Blackrock. We currently pay 20 basis points on
the value and growth index. Morgan Stanley's platform now offers the Vanguard Index funds at
a management fee basis of 14 points. Mr. Brice is recommending we make the swap of the two
index funds to pay lower management fees. Trustee Suma asked if Mr. Brice has the
performance numbers on the Vanguard index funds. He said he did not but can have Stephanie
retrieve them. Mr. Suma said if we could have the performance numbers now versus
Blackrock's numbers, we could make the change today. Trustee said any little appreciation to
the bottom line saves us money. Mr. Brice is texting Stephanie and Rebecca for those numbers
now. Trustee Suma asked if his office could be emailed a hard copy for the files too.
Mr. Brice said value, international and emerging markets are now starting to pick up some
steam with the talks of some trade and tariffs issues probably getting some agreements in
place. If that happens, then it may render the fears of a recession globally less possible. Also,
some of the countries globally are starting to phase in economic trends now that the USA
implemented years ago like easing monetary policy to expand growth. Are international and
emerging market managers all beat their benchmarks year to date. Our MLP Manager, Cushing
beat their respective benchmark 12.48% vs. 41.09% year to date.
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Mr. Brice the addressed asset allocation under tab 3. The portfolio value as of November 4,
2012 is at $12,245,071.32. All asset classes were within the target asset allocations. If a trade
and tariff deal is reached then we may pull some of the funds from the Large Cap equity
portfolios and realign the international and emerging market classes.
The (Blackrock) Growth ISHAREs Index fund is up 3.53% for 4 year, 16.78% for 3 years and
13.19% for 5 years. The Vanguard Russell 1000Growth ETF is up 3.64% for 1 year, 16.78% for
3 years and 13.27% for 5 years.
The (Blackrock) Value ISHAREs Index fund is up 3.85% for 1 year, 9.25% for 3 years and
7.62% for 5 years. The Vanguard Russell 1000Growth ETF is up 4.00% for 1 year, 9.35% for 3
years and 7.67% for 5 years.
Motion by Suma to swap the Blackrock IShare index funds for both the Growth and Value styles
to the Vanguard Russell 1000 Growth and Value ETF. All passive managed index funds.
AYES:4
NAYS: None Motion carried 4 - 0.
ABSENT: Richard Stys
AGENDA ITEM 7 - For Your Information:
A. Correspondence from Gregory T. Suma to City Manager, Dennis Champine dated:
September 11, 2019 Re: Commission action adopting the Actuarial Valuation
recommendations as of December 3'l, 2018.
Motion by Trustee Suma to receive and file was seconded by Trustee Gerald.
AYES:4
NAYS: None Motion carried 4 - 0.
ABSENT: Richard Stys
B. NASRA Issue Brief: Employee Contributions to Public Pension Plans Dated:
September 20'l9.
Trustee Suma briefly touch on the article. It indicated most Public Sector employees with
Defined Benefit plans are required to make employee contributions and compared contributory
plans to private sector employees. There was information about State plans too.
Motion by Trustee Suma to receive and file was seconded by Trustee Gerald.
AYES:4
NAYS: None Motion carried 4 - 0.
ABSENT: Richard Stys
AGENDA ITEM 8 - Old Business
A. None
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AGENDA ITEM 9 - New Business
A. None
AGENDA ITEM 10 - Retirements
A. None
AGENDA ITEM 11- Annuity Withdrawals
A. None
AGENDA ITEM 12 - Approval of Pension Fiqures
A. None
AGENDA ITEM 13 - Vouchers
A. September 25, 20'l9 pensions paid: Pay Report 335 - $111,788.94.
Motion by Trustee Suma supported by Trustee Helkowski to approve the September 25, 2019
pension Pay Report 335 for $141,784.94.
AYES:4
NAYS: None Motion carried 4 - 0.
ABSENT: Richard Stys
B. October 25, 20'l9 pensions paid: Pay Report 339 - $110,762.76.
Motion by Trustee Helkowski supported by Trustee Suma to approve the October 25, 2019
pension Pay Report 339 for $110,762.76.
AYES:4
NAYS: None Motion carried 4 - 0.
ABSENT: Richard Stys
C. VanOverbeke, Michaud & Timmony, P.C. Legal services from July 1, 2018
through June 30, 2019. Invoice dated: October 14, 2019 - $ 3,078.00.
Motion by Trustee Gerald supported by Trustee Helkowski to approve the invoice for legal
services to VanOverbeke, Michaud & Timmony for $ 3,078.00.
AYES:4
NAYS: None Motion carried 4 - 0.
ABSENT: Richard Stys
D. Morgan Stanley - Graystone Consulting Investment Management Fees for the
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3rd Quarter 2019 period ending September 30, 2019 Invoice # 10062019287
- $ 24,053.6'l.
Motion by Trustee Helkowski supported by Trustee Gerald to approve the invoice to Morgan
Stanley for $ 24,053.61.
AYES:4
NAYS: None Motion carried 4 - 0.
ABSENT: Richard Stys
E. 2020 MAPERS Registration - $ 200.00.
Motion by Trustee Suma supported by Trustee Gerald to approve the MAPERS annual dues of
$ 200.00.
AYES:4
NAYS: None Motion carried 4 - 0.
ABSENT: Richard Stys
AGENDA ITEM 14 - Commission Members Comments
Trustee Helkowski gave a report about her attendance at the 2019 Fall MAPERS conference.
She also turned in her certificate for attendance requirements. Over 400 attended the
conference. Individuals are living longer putting a burden on defined benefit plans. The Ml
economy is slowing down slightly. Life expectancy for women is eighty-six and for men it is
eighty-four. Half of the population is expected to out live their life expectancy. The baby boomer
generation between 1945 and 1964 have a population of 75,000,000. Real Estate is still
considered an attractive investment. MAPERS is really appealing to their members to attend the
2020 MAPERS Spring conference at Detroit's Motor City casino. They spent a lot of energy
attracting vendors and presenters to attend.
AGENDA ITEM 15 - Adiournment
As there was no further business to discuss, a motion by Trustee Helkowski and supported by
Trustee Gerald that the meeting be adjourned at 3:24 p.m.
AYES:4
NAYS: None Motion carried 4 - 0.
ABSENT: Richard Stys
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THIS IS AN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THE CITY OF CENTER LINE
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7070 E. TEN MILE RD.
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TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 12, 2019
2:30 PM MEETING
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Call to order:
Approval of Agenda:
Public Comment.
Minute(s):
A. Approval of the Regular Meeting Minutes held on September 10, 2019.
B. Approval of the Special Meeting Minutes held on October 18, 2019.
In Remembrance of Deceased Members and Beneficiaries:
A. None
Presentation:
A. Tim Brice from the Graystone Group of Morgan Stanley.
i. On The Markets - Sticking With It dated: November 2019.
ii. Money Manager performances through September 30, 2019.
For Your Information:
A. Correspondence from Gregoiy T. Suma to City Manager, Dennis Champine dated:
September 11, 2019 Re: Commission action adopting the Actuarial Valuation
recommendations as of December 31, 2018.
B. NASRA Issue Brief: Employee Contributions to Public Pension Plans Dated: September
2019.
Old Business:
A. None
New Business:
A. None
THIS IS AN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THE CITY OF CENTER LINE
POLICE AND FIRE RETIREMENT COMMISSION IS CONDUCTING A
REGULAR MEETING
CITY OF CENTER LINE MUNICIPAL BUILDING
7070 E. TEN MILE RD.
CENTER LINE, Ml 48015
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 12, 2019
2:30 PM MEETING
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10. Retirements:
A. None
11. Approval of Annuity Withdrawals:
A. None
12. Approval of Pension Figure(s):
A. None
13. Vouchers:
A. September 25, 2019 pensions paid: Pay Report 335 - $111,788.94.
B. October 25, 2019 pensions paid: Pay Report 339 - $110,762.76.
C. VanOverbeke, Michaud & Timmony, p.c. Legal services from July 1, 2018
through June 30, 2019. Invoice dated: October 14, 2019 - $ 3,078.00.
D. Morgan Stanley - Graystone Consulting Investment Management Fees for the
3'd Quarter 2019 period ending September 30, 2019 Invoice # 10062019287
- $ 24,053.61.
E. 2020 MAPERS Registration - $ 200.00.
14. Commission Members Comments:
15. Adjournment:
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Gregory T. Suma, Deputy Treasurer Date
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