Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingChapel Hill, NC · June 15, 2020
Minutes
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Historic District Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Minutes
Chair David Schwartz Robert Epting
Vice-Chair Sean Murphy Nancy McCormick
Madhu Beriwal Angela Stiefbold
Monday, June 15, 2020 6:30 PM Virtual Meeting
Virtual Meeting Notification
Board members will attend and participate in this meeting remotely, through internet
access, and will not physically attend. The Town will not provide a physical location
for viewing the meeting. The public is invited to attend the Zoom webinar directly
online or by phone.
Opening
Roll Call
Staff present: Anya Grahn, Liaison to Commission, Becky McDonnell, Liaison to
Commission, Brian Ferrell, Counsel to Commission
Present 6 - Chair David Schwartz, Vice-Chair Sean Murphy, Madhu
Beriwal, Robert Epting, Nancy McCormick, and Angela
Stiefbold
Secretary reads procedures into the record
Approval of Agenda
Announcements
Historic District Design Guidelines Project Update
Staff Liaison Anya Grahn provided an overview of the Historic District Design
Guidelines rewrite project. She explained that she had presented an update to
the Town Council on May 20, 2020. The State Historic Preservation Office
(SHPO) has said that a project extension would be possible, but the Town is not
yet able to request the extension. She explained that the project consultant was
working on the appendices and character studies. Staff anticipated sending
these out in the next two weeks for review by the committee. Staff also
discussed possible virtual committee meetings in the upcoming months to go
over the proposed edits to the Design Guidelines as well as receive feedback on
outstanding issues.
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Commissioner Epting recommended appointing a chair to the committee to
ensure that the Commission's comments were heard. Committee members
Epting, McCormick, and Stiefbold discussed the individual review process that
has been used as a result of the pandemic. Chair Schwartz thought the
committee chair could provide updates on content and items that were being
discussed to the larger commission. A motion was made by Schwartz, seconded
by Epting, for Commissioner Stiefbold to serve as chair of the committee. The
motion passed with a unanimous vote.
Additional Announcements
Staff liaison Grahn explained that the Planning Department is looking for one to
two volunteers from each advisory board to participate in a committee to
investigate and study the concept plan process. She explained that concept
plans are not often reviewed by the Commission, but the Commission had
reviewed concept plans for two properties in the last year. Chair Schwartz and
Commissioner Stiefbold volunteered to represent the Commission on the
committee.
Staff also inquired whether the Commission would be meeting on August 11,
2020. The Commissioners were available on that date and planned to hold an
August meeting.
Petitions
Approval of Minutes
1. March 10, 2020 Meeting Minutes [20-0385]
A motion was made by Schwartz, seconded by Epting, to approve the March
10, 2010 meeting minutes. The motion passed with a unanimous vote.
Historic District Commission Candidate Interviews
2. Historic District Commission Candidate Interviews [20-0386]
Candidates Benedict Lascelles, Cathy Brigham, and Josh Gurlitz introduced
themselves to the Commission and explained their interest and experience in
historic preservation. Chair Schwartz moved to take action on the
applications at the end of the meeting.
Consent Agenda
3. 306 N Boundary Street [20-0387]
Chair Schwartz moved to remove this item from the consent agenda.
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Commissioner Epting was recused for this item.
Staff liaison Grahn explained that this item was an amendment to an approved
Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) to modify the railing design for the stairs
on the east elevation and deck railing on the northwest elevation as well as a
change to lighting fixture design.
Chair Schwartz inquired whether the applicant's proposed lighting would
conform with the Land Use Management Ordinance. Applicant Erik Mehlman
explained that the proposal was for spotlights, not flood lights, and the
illumination would not trespass on neighboring projects. They discussed the
wattage specification. Staff clarified that the amount of foot candles and
illumination was outside of the purview of the Commission and recommended
that the Commission should limit their review to the design of the light fixtures.
Mehlman presented an alternative location for the proposed light fixtures to be
at 27 feet above the ground, a lower height than what had been included in
the application materials. The Commission discussed the visibility of the
fixtures at the proposed location.
A motion was made by Murphy, seconded by McCormick, to approve the
Certificate of Appropriateness with the condition for the modification of the
flood lights to be relocated to the ends of the gable roof and that the applicant
would install railings with a bronze finish. The motion passed unanimously
with a vote of 5-0.
Aye: 5 - Chair David Schwartz, Vice-Chair Sean Murphy, Madhu
Beriwal, Nancy McCormick, and Angela Stiefbold
Recused: 1 - Robert Epting
4. 428 W Cameron Avenue [20-0388]
Staff liaison Grahn stated that the Commission had approved this project in
July 2019 for changes to a garage. The applicant was now proposing to
modify window openings on the sides of the building. The new windows
would be consistent with those the Commission had approved on the facade
of the building.
A motion was made by Schwartz, seconded by Murphy, to approve the
Certificate of Appropriateness. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
5. 307 E Rosemary Street [20-0389]
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Staff liaison Grahn explained that this application proposed replacing existing
decking on a circa 1991 addition to a historic house. The wood decking had
rotted and the applicant was proposing to replace it with a wood composite
material. No changes were proposed to the wood siding and wood railings.
A motion was made by Schwartz, seconded by Murphy, to approve the
Certificate of Appropriateness. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
Old Business
6. 360 Glandon Drive [20-0390]
Staff liaison Grahn explained that this was an after-the-fact Certificate of
Appropriateness for the removal of a stone wall and modifications to a fence.
The Commission had previously reviewed this application in March 2020 and
continued it at that time. The applicant was unable to attend tonight's
meeting; however, they had submitted additional materials that were emailed
to the Commission prior to the meeting and entered into the record at tonight's
meeting. Grahn stated that the applicant believes the additional materials
answer any questions the Commission might have.
The Commission questioned the applicant's ability to provide evidence without
sworn testimony. Attorney Brian Ferrell advised the Commission that the
applicant has the burden of production to provide substantial and competent
evidence. He discussed that the applicant had some technical difficulties in
presenting to the Commission via Zoom; however, the applicant had
consented to the review of their application at this meeting with the
understanding that the Commission may have additional questions or request
additional evidence. He reiterated that written materials are part of the
record. The Commission discussed the importance of the applicant being
present to make their case as they did not think they should take action on an
after-the-fact Certificate of Appropriateness without the applicant present.
A motion was made by Epting, seconded by McCormick, to continue the item
to the July 14, 2020 meeting. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
New Business
7. 7 Cobb Terrace [20-0391]
Staff liaison Grahn explained that the applicant proposed to enclose a screen
porch on the north side of the house and construct a new addition. She
explained that only a portion of the lot was located in the local historic district
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and that the Commission could only review the portion of the addition that is
within the local historic district boundary.
Joe Patterson, property owner, explained how the proposed changes would
allow him to age in place in his home. He explained how the project would be
phased to allow him to enclose the screen porch and expand the living area
first. This would have no impact on the roof structure and windows and
materials would match those on the historic house. He pointed out that many
houses on Cobb Terrace have enclosed their porches. He discussed that the
second phase of the project would be to construct an addition.
Bronwyn Charlton, project architect, presented plans for the proposed
addition. She described the setbacks and Jordan Riparian Buffer constraints
on the site. She reviewed how the materials, forms, and scale were similar
but not identical to the historic building. She and the Commission discussed
the size of the proposed addition and how it met the Design Guidelines.
The Commission discussed the form, size, and roof pitch of the addition.
They expressed concerns about the unusual shape and whether a steeper
roof pitch would compete with the historic house. They discussed the impacts
of the addition had it been located directly behind the house where it would
have blocked views and been challenged by steeper grades. The
Commission discussed the difficulties of maintaining small cottages and that
many fall into disrepair. The Commission and the applicant discussed how a
previously approved carport and existing vegetation would further shield the
visibility of the addition from the street.
The Commission took a 5 minute recess to address Commissioner
McCormick's technological issues.
The Commission continued to discuss the overall size and the visual impacts
of the proposed addition from the right-of-way. They discussed that its
location would protect historic site features such as the stone walls and
patios. Some commissioners expressed concerns that the size and placement
of the addition overwhelmed the historic house, was not congruous with the
character of the existing house, and did not comply with the Design
Guidelines. Others found that the proposal was not an exact replica but used
modern elements and modern design to differentiate the new addition from the
historic house.
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A motion was made by Epting, seconded by Beriwal, to approve the
Certificate of Appropriateness to construct the new addition. The motion
carried with a vote of 4-2.
Aye: 4 - Chair David Schwartz, Madhu Beriwal, Robert Epting, and
Angela Stiefbold
Nay: 2 - Vice-Chair Sean Murphy, and Nancy McCormick
8. 714 E Franklin Street [20-0392]
Staff liaison Grahn explained that the applicant was completing a
whole-house renovation. Staff had worked with the applicant to provide
administrative approvals for those projects allowed by the Design Guidelines
in an effort to keep the applicant moving forward during the pandemic. She
stated that the application before the Commission was for new roofing, front
porch stabilization, new railings, vents, and a relocated power line.
Sara Nicholson, property owner, described the structural issues of the
sagging front porch. She explained the difficulties of installing a girder within
the porch's roof structure and that they had proposed to install a new girder
that would be cased in wood and mimic the original trim work found on the
historic porch. She explained the residential building code requirements that
dictated a new railing on the back porch and the new railing will match the
one at the front of the house. She also discussed the need for a new water
heater vent as well as burying a power line.
A motion was made Epting, seconded my Murphy, to approve the Certificate
of Appropriateness. The motion carried with a unanimous vote.
9. 132 S Columbia Street [20-0384]
Staff liaison Grahn explained that the applicant proposed site improvements,
including reconstructing a stone wall, replacing a wood fence, installing new
fences, and replacing concrete on the basketball court. Because some of
these modifications are located in buffers approved in the Special Use Permit
(SUP), the Commission would also be acting in place of the Community
Design Commission by reviewing changes to these buffers.
David Swanson, project landscape architect, presented plans for the site
improvements. The Commission discussed the new paving material for the
sport court, and Trey Adams, applicant, explained that it would be a
permeable sod material similar to the Beta and Phi Gamma Houses. The
applicant and commission also discussed the age, the modifications, and
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height of the proposed to the stone wall along the front of the property. The
Commission also discussed the design and need for fences, and Swanson
explained that the significant grade change between this property and its
neighbors required a fence or barrier. Swanson spoke to hedges mitigating
the visual impact of the new fences. The Commission clarified that the new
stone wall would appear like old Chapel Hill stone walls, rather than the
newer smooth rock and concrete walls.
A motion was made by Murphy, seconded by Epting, to approve the
Certificate of Appropriateness. The motion passed with a unanimous vote.
A motion was made by Stiefbold, seconded by Schwartz, to approve the
alternate buffers. The motion passed with a unanimous vote.
Historic District Commission Candidate Interviews
Historic District Commission Candidate Interviews [20-0386]
Chair Schwartz recommended that the Commission vote on a motion to
recommend one or more of the applicants interviewed and continue the other
applications to the July meeting. He reminded the Commission that the Town
Council would take the final action.
The Commission discussed the three existing vacancies. They discussed the
qualifications of the candidates and their experience.
A motion was made by McCormick, seconded by Murphy, to forward a
positive recommendation to Town Council for the appointment of Josh Gurlitz.
The motion passed with a unanimous vote.
A motion was made by Schwartz, seconded by Beriwal, to forward a positive
recommendation to Town Council for the appointment of Benedict Lascelles.
The motion passed with a unanimous vote.
The Commission unanimously decided to continue the other two candidate
applications to the July 14, 2020 meeting.
Adjournment
Next Meeting - DATE
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Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The
Body asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous
manner, both with the Body and with fellow members of the public.
Should any member of the Body or any member of the public fail to
observe this charge at any time, the Chair will ask the offending
person to leave the meeting until that individual regains personal
control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will recess the
meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning Department at
919-968-2728; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more information on
the above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards
for background information on this Board.
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Agenda
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Historic District Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Agenda
Chair David Schwartz Robert Epting
Vice-Chair Sean Murphy Nancy McCormick
Madhu Beriwal Angela Stiefbold
Monday, June 15, 2020 6:30 PM Virtual Meeting
Virtual Meeting Notification
Opening
Roll Call
Secretary reads procedures into the record
Approval of Agenda
Announcements
Historic District Design Guidelines Project Update
Petitions
Approval of Minutes
1. March 10, 2020 Meeting Minutes [20-0385]
Attachments: March 10, 2020 Meeting Minutes
Historic District Commission Candidate Interviews
2. Historic District Commission Candidate Interviews [20-0386]
Attachments: Staff Memo
Candidate Applications
Consent Agenda
3. 306 N Boundary Street [20-0387]
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Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials
4. 428 W Cameron Avenue [20-0388]
Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials
5. 307 E Rosemary Street [20-0389]
Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials
Old Business
6. 360 Glandon Drive [20-0390]
Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials - 2.19.2020
New Business
7. 7 Cobb Terrace [20-0391]
Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials
8. 714 E Franklin Street [20-0392]
Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials
9. 132 S Columbia Street [20-0384]
Attachments: Staff Report
Application Materials
Final Plan Application
Adjournment
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Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The Body
asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous manner, both
with the Body and with fellow members of the public. Should any member of the
Body or any member of the public fail to observe this charge at any time, the
Chair will ask the offending person to leave the meeting until that individual
regains personal control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will
recess the meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning Department at
919-968-2728; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more information on the
above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards for
background information on this Board.
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