Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingChapel Hill, NC · November 2, 2020
Minutes
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Historic District Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Minutes
Chair David Schwartz Josh Gurlitz
Vice-Chair Angela Stiefbold Duncan Lascelles
Deputy Vice-Chair Sean Murphy Nancy McCormick
Madhu Beriwal
Monday, November 2, 2020 6:30 PM Virtual Meeting
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Opening
Roll Call
Staff present: Anya Grahn, Brian Ferrell, Counsel to Commission
Present 6 - Chair David Schwartz, Vice-Chair Angela Stiefbold, Deputy
Vice-Chair Sean Murphy, Josh Gurlitz, Duncan Lascelles, and
Nancy McCormick
Absent 1 - Madhu Beriwal
Secretary reads procedures into the record
Approval of Agenda
A motion was made by Schwartz, seconded by Gurlitz, to approve the agenda. The
motion carried by a unanimous vote.
Announcements
Staff liaison Grahn explained that the staff was proposing updates to the Land Use
Management Ordinance (LUMO) and other sections of the Town Code to align
development regulations with the new State legislation known as Chapter 160D.
She informed the Commission staff would be holding a Joint Advisory Board
meeting on December 7, 2020 from 5:30-6:30pm to introduce key provisions of
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Chapter 160D and receive input. The two main topics for the meetings were
Special Use Permit (SUP) conditions and the SUP Review Process.
Petitions
Approval of Minutes
October 13, 2020 Meeting Minutes [20-0711]
A motion was made by Stiefbold, seconded by McCormick, to approve the
meeting minutes as amended. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
Historic District Commission Candidate Interviews
Historic District Commission Candidate Interviews [20-0712]
Candidate Polly Van de Velde introduced herself to the Commission. She
explained her interest in architecture and historic preservation, her
understanding of town processes, and her experience serving on the
Community Design Commission. Chair Schwartz moved to take action on the
application at the end of the meeting.
Old Business
Delegation of Approval Authority [20-0713]
Staff liaison Grahn and Commissioner Stiefbold, Chair of the Commission's
Design Guideline Committee, asked for the Commission's input on the
delegation of approval authority. Grahn explained staff's approval authority of
Certificates of Appropriateness (COAs) was limited to those items listed on
page 69 of the current Design Guidelines, and these could be amended as
part of the Design Guidelines Rewrite Project. She presented items that staff
regularly approved as well as items that the Historic District Commission
(HDC) typically approved as part of the consent agenda.
Grahn stated that staff had provided an analysis of approval authorities from
other North Carolina communities and she presented the results of a survey
the Commissioners had individually completed prior to the meeting. They
discussed that the HDC was generally supportive of most of the existing
delegations of approval authority. The Commission recommended that
approval authority of fieldstone walls be completed by the HDC rather than
staff as currently permitted. There was confusion about staff's ability to
approve "bricked-in areas on side or rear of structure at ground level and not
abutting right-of-way," and the Commission found this item could be
eliminated as it would be replaced by more specific work items.
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Stiefbold and Grahn presented work items for the Commission to consider
delegating to staff for approval. The Commission found that staff could
approve ramps not visible from the right-of-way constructed of traditional
materials if they did not require the removal of historic building materials or
features. They recommended that the committee further discuss staff's
approval of accessory building and limit the approval based on the size of the
accessory buildings or the percentage of the backyard. The Commission was
supportive of staff approving awnings on commercial buildings for awnings
made of traditional materials such as canvas, metal, or fabric. There was
interest in allowing staff to approve the alteration or removal of non-historic
chimneys and reconstruction of missing portions of historic chimneys based
on photographic or physical evidence.
Stiefbold and Grahn presented options in which staff might review and
approve changes to doors and windows. Some members found that staff
could approve changes if the new design standards provided sufficient
guidance. Others found that this delegation would lead to significant changes
to the building. The Commission decided to discuss this at a later time.
There was consensus for staff to approve full-light storm doors and windows
made of painted wood as well as painted or powder-coated metal with clear
glass.
The Commission discussed site improvements. The HDC found that staff
could approve new or replacement driveway materials such as gravel,
concrete, or red brick and minor alterations such as maintenance grading or
realignment. There was interest in permitting staff to approve fences not
visible from the right-of-way that were constructed of traditional materials and
no taller than 6 ft. in height. The Commission also agreed to delegate garden
and pet enclosures to staff for approval.
The HDC reviewed changes to the exterior of buildings. They found that staff
could approve foundation-level egress windows on non-street-facing facades.
They supported allowing staff to approve exterior lighting fixtures. They also
agreed to staff approving mechanical equipment not located in front yards or
visible from the right-of-way that was screened by vegetation or fences. The
Commission discussed changes to patios and recommended that the Design
Guidelines committee determine limitations for staff approval of this item. The
Commission found that staff could approve the in-kind replacement of roofing
materials; however, the HDC did not want to delegate the approval of solar
panels to staff until they had a better understanding of what these requests
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entailed. They found that staff could approve vents at the foundation level
and on non-street-facing facades.
Stiefbold and Grahn explained the approval process for removing non-historic
materials and restoring original materials. They discussed the difficulty of
determining when a project exceeds repair and maintenance due to the
amount of historic material that requires replacement. The HDC was largely
supportive of staff approving the removal of these materials to restore original
materials so long as staff incorporated a condition of approval that no more
than a specific percentage of the historic materials required replacement. The
Commission wanted to retain approval authority for the replacement of
missing architectural details. Staff explained the State Historic Preservation
Office's preservation tax credit process, and the HDC found that staff could
approve COAs for these projects; however, the HDC would retain approval
authority of new additions associated with tax credit projects. They also
discussed staff approving demolition of non-historic accessory buildings and
wanted to limit approval authority to garden sheds.
Steifbold and Grahn also presented additional items that had not been
included in the survey. The HDC was supportive of staff approving the
removal of satellite dishes. They found that staff could likely approve the
installation of window AC units, but the Commission thought these presented
an opportunity for educating the community on why these would not be
appropriate on facades. The HDC decided that staff should be able to
approve new stairs or steps if they were limited in height to no more than
three steps that did not require a handrail. There was not an interest in
regulating security cameras or Little Free Libraries.
Historic District Commission Candidate Interviews
Historic District Commission Candidate Interviews [20-0712]
The Commission discussed the existing vacancies as well as the
qualifications and experience of the candidate.
A motion was made by Lascelles, seconded by Murphy, to forward a positive
recommendation to the Town Council for the appointment of Polly Van de
Velde. The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
Grahn reminded the Commission that the Commissioner Murphy had
reapplied and the Commission would need to also forward a recommendation
for his application.
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A motion was made by Schwartz, seconded by Gurlitz, to forward a positive
recommendation to the Town Council for the reappointment of Commissioner
Murphy. The motion carried by a unanimous vote of 5-0. Commission
Murphy was recused.
Adjournment
Next Meeting - DATE
Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The
Body asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous
manner, both with the Body and with fellow members of the public.
Should any member of the Body or any member of the public fail to
observe this charge at any time, the Chair will ask the offending
person to leave the meeting until that individual regains personal
control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will recess the
meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning Department at
919-968-2728; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more information on
the above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards
for background information on this Board.
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Agenda
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Historic District Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Agenda
Chair David Schwartz Josh Gurlitz
Vice-Chair Angela Stiefbold Duncan Lascelles
Deputy Vice-Chair Sean Murphy Nancy McCormick
Madhu Beriwal
Monday, November 2, 2020 6:30 PM Virtual Meeting
Virtual Meeting Notification
Opening
Roll Call
Secretary reads procedures into the record
Approval of Agenda
Announcements
Petitions
Approval of Minutes
October 13, 2020 Meeting Minutes [20-0711]
Attachments: October 13, 2020 Meeting Minutes
Historic District Commission Candidate Interviews
Historic District Commission Candidate Interviews [20-0712]
Attachments: Staff Memo
Polly Van de Velde Application
Old Business
Delegation of Approval Authority [20-0713]
Attachments: Staff Memo
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Adjournment
Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The Body
asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous manner, both
with the Body and with fellow members of the public. Should any member of the
Body or any member of the public fail to observe this charge at any time, the
Chair will ask the offending person to leave the meeting until that individual
regains personal control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will
recess the meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning Department at
919-968-2728; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more information on the
above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards for
background information on this Board.
http://www.townofchapelhill.org Page 2 of 2 Printed on 10/19/2020
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