Historic District Commission
Regular MeetingChapel Hill, NC · April 11, 2023
Minutes
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Historic District Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Minutes
Chair Sean Murphy Josh Gurlitz
Vice-Chair Duncan Lascelles Nancy McCormick
Deputy Vice-Chair Polly van de Velde Anne Perl De Pal
Michael Booth David Schwartz
Brian Daniels
Tuesday, April 11, 2023 6:30 PM RM 110 | Council Chamber
Language Access Statement
Opening
Roll Call
Anya Grahn-Federmack, Staff Liaison, Katherine Shor, Planning Staff, Kevin Hornik, Counsel to the
Commission
Present 7 - Chair Sean Murphy, Deputy Vice-Chair Polly van de Velde,
Michael Booth, Josh Gurlitz, Nancy McCormick, Anne Perl
De Pal , and David Schwartz
Excused 2 - Vice-Chair Duncan Lascelles, and Brian Daniels
Secretary reads procedures into the record
Approval of Agenda
Announcements
Grahn-Federmack explained that the Town Council held a work session on the
Housing Choices for a Complete Community text amendment project on April 10th.
She explained that staff had received feedback from the Council and staff would
return to the Historic District Commission (HDC) once they had more details. At this
time, there was not a date set for that HDC meeting.
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Petitions
Consent
1. 214 Glenburnie Street [23-0273]
A motion was made by McCormick, seconded by Perl de Pal to move 214
Glenburnie from the consent agenda to the old business agenda. The motion
passed by a vote of 5 to 2.
Aye: 5 - Michael Booth, Josh Gurlitz, Nancy McCormick, Anne Perl
De Pal , and David Schwartz
Nay: 2 - Chair Sean Murphy, and Deputy Vice-Chair Polly van de
Velde
Excused: 2 - Vice-Chair Duncan Lascelles, and Brian Daniels
Old Business
214 Glenburnie Street [23-0273]
Architect Cari Filer explained that changes had been made since the start of
construction. She discussed the need to replace the original glass on the
entry sidelights and transom with tempered glass for energy efficiency and to
meet Building Code requirements. She described how the interior
programming had led to changes to the fenestration pattern and that they had
also changed the detailing on the outdoor fireplace surround and Juliet
balcony railings. She committed to restoring the wood door.
The commissioners discussed the changes to the windows and agreed that
the revised fenestration pattern was an improvement to the design.
A motion was made by van de Velde, seconded by Gurlitz that the application
was not incongruous with the special character of the district and to grant the
Certificate of Appropriateness (COA). The motion carried by a unanimous
vote.
2. 313 E. Franklin Street [23-0274]
Jim Spencer, project architect, discussed the proposed amendments to the
Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) application. He presented photos of the
sorority house and spoke of the modification to the window in the parlor of the
Wooten House. He described the proposed site plan improvements, including
ADA parking and ramps, outdoor gathering spaces, and changes to the
pathways.
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The commission discussed the proposed patio area in front of the house.
They considered the size and its projection from the proposed porch.
Commissioners requested that the stone seat walls be constructed completely
out of stone, not a stone veneer. There was concern that the patio space
would create too much concrete and gravel in the front yard, and
commissioners reviewed photos of a similar hard surfaced patio space at 307
E. Franklin Street. Commissioners discussed the effects of the proposed
landscaping in breaking up hard surfaces. There was support for re-grading
the site to create a sidewalk providing ADA access, rather than creating a new
ramp, on the east side of the house.
A motion was made by Schwartz, seconded by Gurlitz, that the application
was not incongruous with the special character of the district, so long as the
seat walls are constructed of solid stone, and to grant the Certificate of
Appropriateness (COA). The motion carried by a unanimous vote.
New Business
3. 223 E. Rosemary Street [23-0275]
Leslie Brock, property manager, discussed the need to replace the historic
wood windows on the house with new fiberglass or aluminum inserts. She
presented photos of the existing windows, pointing out that the house had
mostly double-hung windows with three casement windows on the rear
elevation. She stated that the Design Standards allow aluminum clad and
fiberglass replacement materials where in-kind replacement is not feasible.
She described the poor condition of the existing windows, including caulk
build up, failing glazing, missing cords and weights, lack of insulated glass, as
well as poor craftsmanship. Several of the windows had racked and were no
longer operable. She explained that the inserts would leave the existing trim
and window frames in place, but would replace the sashes and damaged sills.
The dormer window on the facade would remain. She also showed photos of
several neighboring properties with replacement windows.
The commission discussed the height of the windows and whether the
proposed inserts would match the appearance of the existing windows.
Commissioners commented on the appearance of the simulated divided glass
inserts and muntins. Several commissioners commented on the visibility of
the insert's frame sitting within an existing frame and how the new frame
would cause the dimensions of the insert's sashes to be smaller than that of
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the existing windows. Brock found that the inserts would be a fraction of an
inch smaller than the dimensions of the existing wood windows.
Commissioners discussed the Design Standards and the feasibility of
repairing the original windows. Some expressed interest in seeing a
dimensioned window survey as well as more detail on how the inserts'
dimensions would fit within the existing window opening. Others asked for
more evidence that the windows could not be restored. Brock explained the
difficulty of restoring wood windows, the lead time for the project, as well as
the challenges of vacating the house while the window openings are boarded.
The commissioners asked for more information regarding the feasibility of
restoring the windows.
A motion was made by Gurlitz, seconded by Schwartz, to continue the
evidentiary hearing to the May 9, 2023 meeting.
4. 211 Glenburnie Street [23-0276]
Fred Belledin, architect, and Andrew Rook, project manager, discussed the
proposed amendments to the Certificate of Appropriateness (COA). They
presented site plans and discussed site improvements such as a
trash/recycling bin, generator, and roofed pergola with outdoor fireplace.
They proposed replacing a previously approved wood deck with a new stone
patio with brick perimeter wall. They asked to restore the metal roofing of the
historic balconies, instead of using asphalt shingle siding to match the
existing. They explained that the side service porch was not original and
requested to replace the existing overhang with a new porch.
Commissioners clarified the changes approved under the previous COA,
found that the stone patio was an improvement to the previously approved
wood deck, and found that the improvements were sensitive changes to the
house and site.
A motion was made by Gurlitz, seconded by Perl de Pal, that the application
was not incongruous with the special character of the district and to grant the
Certificate of Appropriateness (COA). The motion carried by a unanimous
vote.
Adjournment
Next Meeting - May 9, 2023
Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
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1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The
Body asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous
manner, both with the Body and with fellow members of the public.
Should any member of the Body or any member of the public fail to
observe this charge at any time, the Chair will ask the offending
person to leave the meeting until that individual regains personal
control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will recess the
meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning Department at
919-968-2728; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more information on
the above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards
for background information on this Board.
Virtual Meeting Notification [23-0300]
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Agenda
Town Hall
TOWN OF CHAPEL HILL 405 Martin Luther King Jr.
Boulevard
Historic District Commission Chapel Hill, NC 27514
Meeting Agenda
Chair Sean Murphy Josh Gurlitz
Vice-Chair Duncan Lascelles Nancy McCormick
Deputy Vice-Chair Polly van de Velde Anne Perl De Pal
Michael Booth David Schwartz
Brian Daniels
Tuesday, April 11, 2023 6:30 PM RM 110 | Council Chamber
Language Access Statement
Opening
Roll Call
Secretary reads procedures into the record
Approval of Agenda
Announcements
Petitions
Consent
1. 214 Glenburnie Street [23-0273]
Attachments: Staff Memo
Meeting Materials
Old Business
http://www.townofchapelhill.org Page 1 of 3 Printed on 3/27/2023
Historic District Commission Meeting Agenda April 11, 2023
2. 313 E. Franklin Street [23-0274]
Attachments: Staff Memo
Application Materials Part 1
Application Materials Part 2
New Business
3. 223 E. Rosemary Street [23-0275]
Attachments: Staff Memo
Application Materials
4. 211 Glenburnie Street [23-0276]
Attachments: Staff Memo
Meeting Materials
Adjournment
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Historic District Commission Meeting Agenda April 11, 2023
Order of Consideration of Agenda Items:
1. Staff Presentation
2. Applicant’s Presentation
3. Public Comment
4. Board Discussion
5. Motion
6. Restatement of Motion by Chair
7. Vote
8. Announcement of Vote by Chair
Public Charge: The Advisory Body pledges its respect to the public. The Body
asks the public to conduct themselves in a respectful, courteous manner, both
with the Body and with fellow members of the public. Should any member of the
Body or any member of the public fail to observe this charge at any time, the
Chair will ask the offending person to leave the meeting until that individual
regains personal control. Should decorum fail to be restored, the Chair will
recess the meeting until a genuine commitment to this public charge is observed.
Unless otherwise noted, please contact the Planning Department at
919-968-2728; planning@townofchapelhill.org for more information on the
above referenced applications.
See the Advisory Boards page http://www.townofchapelhill.org/boards for
background information on this Board.
http://www.townofchapelhill.org Page 3 of 3 Printed on 3/27/2023
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