Planning Board Agendas and Minutes
Regular MeetingCohoes, NY · September 14, 2009
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE COHOES PLANNING BOARD MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER
19, 2009 AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COMMON COUNCIL CHAMBERS OF CITY HALL
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mr. Edward Carboni
Vice-Chairman Clarence Badgley
Chairman Joseph Moloughney
Ms. Sharon Gariepy
ABSENT: Mr. Mark DeFruscio
Mr. Jake Dumesnil
ALSO PRESENT: Ms. Melissa Ashline-Heil, Planner
CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES OF THE JULY 13, and AUGUST 10, 2009
MEETING
Chairman Moloughney called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. Chairman asked the planner to take
attendance call. Chairman asked the Board to decide whether to approve the minutes from the July
13th, and August 10th, 2009 meeting. Vice Chairman Badgley made a motion to approve the
minutes of the July 13th and August 10th, 2009 meetings. Member Carboni seconded the motion.
Roll of call was taken and the motion passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney X
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni X
Mark DeFruscio ABSENT
Sharon Gariepy ABSENT
Jake Dumesnil ABSENT
CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A POOL AT 63 MELVILLE
AVENUE
Eltereze Franz lives at 63 Melville Avenue. She requests approval for an above ground swimming
pool in her back yard. The 24’ round pool would lie 13’ from the side property line, 50’ from the
front and 10’ from the rear. Since the setbacks meet City Code requirements, the Board did not
ask any other questions.
Vice Chairman Badgley made a motion to approve the special use permit. Member Carboni
seconded the motion. Roll of call was taken and the motion passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney X
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni X
Mark DeFruscio ABSENT
Sharon Gariepy ABSENT
Jake Dumesnil ABSENT
CONSIDERATION OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A POOL AT 179 VLIET STREET
Keith and Kilt Merkley of 179 Vliet Street requested approval for an 18’ round above ground pool
in their back yard. The pool would rest 20’ from the side and rear and 20’ from the house. Since
the setbacks meet City Code requirements, the Board did not ask any other questions.
Member Carboni made a motion to approve the special use permit. Vice Chairman Badgley
seconded the motion. Roll of call was taken and the motion passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney X
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni X
Mark DeFruscio ABSENT
Sharon Gariepy ABSENT
Jake Dumesnil ABSENT
CONSIDERATION OF A SITE PLAN REVIEW for PARKING LOT AT 77 MOHAWK
STREET
Engineer Matt Hoffman presented the final site plan for a proposed parking lot at 77 Mohawk
Street. He indicated that the parking lot would feature green space landscaping along the border
on Oneida Street. A catch basin placed in the center of the lot would collect stormwater and
discharge to the corner of Oneida and Mohawk Streets.
Chairman Moloughney asked about fencing, which was a condition of the preliminary approval.
Matt indicated that fencing had been taking off the list of requirements. Chairman Moloughney
conceded that it may have been taken off the list of requirements, since the project approvals have
been delayed by the developer for over a year.
Chairman Moloughney then asked whether the catch basin discharge point handles sewer or rain,
as it cannot be both. He also asked whether the developer’s engineers confirmed the discharge
point with dye testing. Matt indicated that the City engineer and DPW Commissioner opened the
hydrants. Then Schafer Engineering professionals poured ink into the basin to determine where it
would discharge. Chairman Moloughney asked if the catch basin would dump to a CSO. Matt
indicated it would not once the project was done. As part of 55 Mohawk approvals the developer
had been required to separate the storm and sewer lines. The storm line would need to cross
Oneida.
Chairman Moloughney then asked whether the developer had a cleaning and maintenance
schedule. Matt replied that the owner would remove the manhole cover and pump the sumps.
Chairman Moloughney commented that the City needs and enforceable maintenance plan. Matt
agreed to add an annual cleaning of the catch basins. Chairman Moloughney asked if the sump
would be 4’ below. Matt agreed that the invert and pipes are all included in the area to be cleaned.
Member Carboni asked about lighting, which was also a condition of the preliminary approval.
Matt argued that the City lighting would suffice. He also wondered what specific foot candle the
City required for a parking lot. He avers that the ambient lighting prevents total pitch darkness.
He pointed out that the lighting would either require a line run from 55 Mohawk, a line run to the
neighbors’ or a solar light. To gain access to electricity at 55 Mohawk would require tearing up
the road. Using the neighbor’s power would be a problem if the neighbor sells the property. Solar
lights do not work in the back corner of the parking lot where it is most needed. In addition, the
developer would need to install a large solar panel. The developer worries about vandalism of the
solar panel. Therefore, he asserts that there are no good options.
Member Carboni asked whether he could hook into the National Grid lights. Matt asked where the
meter would be located. He also added that the offices would only use the lot during daylight
hours. Chairman Moloughney replied that a meter would be placed on an unattractive wooden
pole. Therefore, the Board decided against lighting.
Chairman Moloughney asked about grading of the parking lot. Matt indicated that the lot would
grade toward the catch basin in the center of the lot in order to avoid the need for a retaining wall.
Chairman Moloughney then asked about rebuilding the bus stop and providing an escrow for doing
that. Matt confirmed that Mike Schafer had discussed the possibility with the developer. The
developer is not averse to providing the funding. Chairman Moloughney explained that the CDTA
is an interested party for SEQR purposes. When given the plans for review, CDTA realized that
the increased traffic from the parking lot would interfere with an existing bus stop on Mohawk
Street across from the exit. As a result, they want to move the bus stop to Cayuga, a side street.
CDTA estimates it will cost $14,000 for the bus shelter, pad, etc.
Chairman Moloughney questioned the construction schedule. Matt indicated that the developer
would bid the work over the winter and begin the parking lot in the spring. Daniele Cherniak, a
member of the Historic Preservation and Review Board, asked about the status of the project and
when the Historic Board would review. Melissa Ashline-Heil, Director of Building and Planning,
replied that it had been determined that the HPARB would not review the parking lot since it did
not have lighting, fencing or other elements of review.
Chairman Moloughney recapped that there would be sidewalk improvements; a relocated parking
lot entrance; green landscaping; snow storage; an escrow for relocation of the CDTA bus stop; no
fence; and no lighting. Member Gariepy asked about the safety of the parking lot without a fence.
Chairman Moloughney replied that there would be curb stops.
Vice Chairman Badgley made a motion to approve the conditioned site plan. Member Carboni
seconded the motion. Roll of call was taken and the motion passed with three votes and one
abstention.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney X
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni X
Mark DeFruscio ABSENT
Sharon Gariepy ABSTAIN
Jake Dumesnil ABSENT
Member Carbomi made a motion to adjourn at 7:45pm. Vice Chairman Badgley seconded the
motion. Roll of call was taken and the motion passed unanimously.
YES NO
Joseph Moloughney X
Leo Badgley X
Edward Carboni X
Mark DeFruscio ABSENT
Sharon Gariepy X
Jake Dumesnil ABSENT
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