Zoning Board Agendas and Minutes
Regular MeetingCohoes, NY · April 23, 2014
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE COHOES ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS HELD IN THE
COMMON COUNCIL CHAMBERS OF COHOES CITY HALL ON WEDNESDAY,
FEBRUARY 26, 2014
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mr. Mark Cotch
Mrs. Joyce Baranski
Mr. Francis Houle, Vice-Chairman
Mr. John Hughes, Chairman
Mr. Dan Kelly
ALSO PRESENT: Ms. Melissa Ashline-Heil, Director of Building and Planning
CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 26, 2014.
Chairman Hughes called the meeting to order at 6:30 pm. The Chairman asked the
recording secretary to take attendance. Member Cotch moved to approve the minutes of
February 26, 2014. Vice Chairman Houle seconded the motion, roll of call was taken and the
motion passed unanimously.
YES NO ABSTAIN
John Hughes X
Joyce Baranski X
Dan Kelly X
Frank Houle X
Mark Cotch X
CONSIDERATION OF AN AREA VARIANCE FROM SETBACKS AT 109
RENSSELAER AVENUE
Father and son, Stephen and Shane Matzen, applied for permission to construct a deck off the
riverside of the residential structure located at 109 Rensselaer Avenue. Mr. Stephen Matzen
explained that the proposal wouldn’t infringe on neighbors in any way. He would cantilever the
structure to the 0’ setback. Member Kelly asked if any DEC regulations prohibited the proposal.
The building permit application had been reviewed by the City’s Engineering Office. Member
Cotch asked how occupants would access the deck. Mr. Matzen intends to create a door opening
that would lead to the deck.
As a result, Vice Chairman Houle moved to approve the variance. Member Kelly seconded the
motion which passed unanimously.
YES NO ABSTAIN
John Hughes X
Joyce Baranski X
Dan Kelly X
Frank Houle X
Mark Cotch X
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CONSIDERATION OF AN AREA VARIANCE FROM FENCE HEIGHT AT 43 DAVID
DRIVE
Steven and Barbara Elinski requested approval for three panels of 8’ cedar privacy fencing 1’
from the property line shared with 42 David Drive. The Elinskis describe the neighbor’s above
ground pool and deck as higher than the chain link fence with privacy slats that the neighbor
installed. As a result, they cannot enjoy the use of their backyard as the neighbors do not get
along. The couple had installed Rose of Sharon bushes in 2009. However the bushes aren’t
growing as well in that location as on the other side of the property. The bushes were planted on
the other side to create privacy as well. However, they do not experience any difficulty getting
along with the neighbor on the other side.
The neighbor, Laurie Kmiec, opposes the variance request because the fence requires
maintenance; the 1’ setback doesn’t provide enough space to maintain the land or the fence; and
the height differential would create a billboard affect from Ms. Kmiec’s perspective. Chairman
Hughes asked how long each has lived in the neighborhood. Ms. Kmiec has been in her home a
decade, while the Elinskis moved in approximately 6 years ago.
Chairman Hughes asked for clarification on Ms. Kmiec’s concerns. He questioned whether she
thought the additional 2’ of fencing created the appearance of a billboard, as 6’ is the maximum
allowed that close to the property line without a variance. She explained that her chain link
fencing is 5’ high so this fence would sit 3’ higher than hers. She also confirmed that the added
height would create a billboard appearance from her yard.
Chairman Hughes asked who would maintain the area between the fences. The Elinskis have
been maintaining that land and would continue. The fencing company, Siena, would install the
fence 3” off the ground to provide access for weeding. The fence company would install
landscape fabric. At this time the couple weeds the property daily. However, Member Baranski
pointed out that the variance goes with the land, not the property owner.
Chairman Hughes asked the neighbor if she would agree to a 5’ cedar fence at the same location.
Ms. Kmiec would not because of the close proximity and difficulty with maintenance. Ms.
Kmiec stated that she would agree to allow the Elinskis to remove her chain link fence and
replace it with vinyl fencing at their expense. She stated that vinyl fencing doesn’t require any
maintenance. Chairman Hughes asked if Ms. Kmiec under those circumstances would be
opposed to 8’ height, which she confirmed she wouldn’t be opposed to so long as the whole side
was consistent. He also asked if she thought that since she was there first, and installed her
fencing first that the neighbors are precluded from installing a fence of their own and choosing
the style. She reiterated concerns regarding maintenance of cedar fencing. Chairman Hughes
asked if Ms. Kmiec would permit the neighbor to walk onto her property to maintain the fencing.
Ms. Kmiec said she would not permit the neighbor to maintain the fence on her side by walking
on her property. In addition she doesn’t like cedar fencing. Member Kelly asked the applicants
why they chose cedar over vinyl. The Elinskis chose cedar because it fit in as a landscaping
element with the flowers and bushes they’ve planted.
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Chairman Hughes then asked the applicants to clarify their position. The Elinskis reiterated the
lack of privacy in the backyard. Vice Chairman Houle asked if three panels would suffice. The
Elinskis thought it was a compromise as it blocks the pool and deck in as few panels as possible.
The length of the backyard from their own fencing would require five panels total. However, the
side walls of the homes as well as the neighbor’s corner shed provides some blockage. Mr.
Elinski added that the cedar fencing proposed is guaranteed for 20 years and turns silvery gray as
it ages without any needed maintenance.
Ms. Kmiec asked for strict enforcement of the City zoning code which would require the fence
be installed 8’ from the property line. Chairman Hughes suggested that would place the fence in
an odd location, cutting up the yard. He also asked Ms. Kmiec if she obtained a variance for her
pool. She stated the pool met setbacks but she required one for her shed. Chairman Hughes
added that the purpose of the variance was for maximizing space in her backyard, which is also
at issue with the fence request.
Member Kelly asked if 2’ from the property line would resolve the concern regarding
maintenance. Mrs. Elinski agreed to 1.5’ back, although it would require more landscaping
fabric and would be more difficult to manage and prevent growth in a larger area. Ms. Kmiec
added that the applicant also has an aboveground pool and deck on the opposite side of their
property. Mrs. Elinski responded that the Rose of Sharon trees have grown successfully on that
side of the property so that they cannot see into their neighbor’s yard even though that neighbor
has an inground pool.
Ms. Kmiec countered that the fence will look like a billboard. Chairman Hughes asked if it
differed significantly in appearance from the wall of a shed. He added that the properties were
divided years before anyone foresaw aboveground or inground pools, and decks in every
backyard. He pointed out it is the role of the Zoning Board to accommodate unforeseen changes
or unusual circumstances whereby the zoning code impairs use of property.
As a result, Member Kelly moved to approve the variance. Member Cotch seconded the motion
which passed with four votes supporting and one abstention.
YES NO ABSTAIN
John Hughes X
Joyce Baranski ABSTAIN
Dan Kelly X
Frank Houle X
Mark Cotch X
Member Cotch moved to adjourn at 7:40 PM seconded by Member Baranski. The motion passed
unanimously.
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