City Council
Regular MeetingColumbia City, OR · February 17, 2022
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City Council Meeting Minutes
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THURSDAY February 17, 2022
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CITY OF COLUMBIA CITY, COLUMBIA COUNTY, OREGON
AGENDA ITEM 1 CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL:
CONVENED:
Mayor Casey Wheeler called the Regular Meeting to order at 6:30 pm. Public access and
comment were available via published Zoom meeting access information.
COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT:
Mayor Casey Wheeler
Councilor Gordon Thistle
Councilor Sue Ziglinski
Councilor Katrina Claridge
Councilor Jeff Reinan
COUNCIL MEMBERS ABSENT: None
ALSO PRESENT:
Mike McGlothlin, City Administrator/Recorder
Stephen Petersen, City Attorney
Mike DeRoia, City Building Official
Helen Johnson, City Building Administrative Assistant
Kim Karber, Office Supervisor/Finance Clerk
ATTORNEY PRESENT: Yes.
A quorum was present and due notice had been published.
AGENDA ITEM 2 CITIZEN INPUT:
2.1 Mark and Glorene Stevens, of 1505 Third Street, spoke with Council about requesting
permission to relocate historical documents from the city to the Columbia County
Museum. These various documents will be better preserved and displayed at the
museum, rather than at their current location in the City Hall facility at Columbia City.
After discussion of Council, and by their consensus, it was agreed to allow for the
transfer of these materials to the Columbia County Museum.
AGENDA ITEM 3 COUNCIL REPORTS:
3.1 Minutes of the January 9, 2022, Streets Committee meeting; chaired by
Councilor Gordon Thistle.
Written minutes were submitted and accepted by Council for this committee meeting.
AGENDA ITEM 4 STAFF REPORTS:
4.1 Activity Reports from the Public Works Superintendent.
A written activity report was submitted by the Public Works Superintendent, Micah
Rogers, for the previous month’s departmental activity.
4.2 Activity Reports from the Police Operations Sergeant.
A written activity report was submitted by the Police Operations Sergeant, Jerry
Bartolomucci, for the previous month’s departmental activity.
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AGENDA ITEM 5 CONSENT AGENDA:
5.1 Bills paid with check numbers 33548 through 33595 during the month of
January 2022.
5.2 Minutes of the January 20, 2022, Regular City Council Meeting.
5.3 Expense v. Budget Report for the period ending January 31, 2022.
COUNCIL APPROVED THE CONSENT AGENDA BY UNANIMOUS ROLL CALL VOTE.
AGENDA ITEM 6 UNFINISHED BUSINESS: None
AGENDA ITEM 7 NEW BUSINESS:
7.1 Request to address Council regarding permit costs associated with the
Columbia City Mini Storage commercial construction project, as submitted by
Valyrie German of Columbia City Storage LLC.
REPRESENTATIVES OF COLUMBIA CITY STORAGE LLC; VALYRIE GERMAN, WADE
ELLIOTT, JOSH KOMP, AND JERRY REID WERE PRESENT TO ADDRESS COUNCIL
IN THIS REQUEST REGARDING PERMIT COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR
COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. CITY REPRESENTATIVES INCLUDED
CITY ADMINISTRATOR MIKE MCGLOTHLIN, CITY ATTORNEY STEVE PETERSEN,
CITY BUILDING OFFICIAL MIKE DEROIA, AND CITY BUILDING ADMINISTRATIVE
ASSISTANT HELEN JOHNSON.
WADE ELLIOTT SAID THAT HE WAS THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO
ADDRESS COUNCIL AND THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COSTS
ASSOCIATED WITH PERMIT FEES FOR THIS PARTICULAR CONSTRUCTION
PROJECT. HE SAID THAT HE WAS COMPARING THE CURRENT PROJECT TO A
SIMILAR SELF-STORAGE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT HE DID ABOUT 10
YEARS AGO IN THE CITY OF ST. HELENS WHERE THE COSTS OF THE BUILDINGS
WAS USED TO FORUMLATE THE RELEVANT PERMIT FEES, AND THAT HE
ASSUMED THAT WAS HOW IT WOULD WORK WITH THE CURRENT PROJECT IN
COLUMBIA CITY. WADE ELLIOTT SAID THAT HE UNDERSTANDS THAT ICC VALUES
ARE CURRENTLY USED BUT FEELS THAT THIS PRACTICE IS BETTER SUITED TO
LARGE MUNICIPALITIES. HE SAID THAT THE USE OF THE ICC VALUES INSTEAD
OF THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION COSTS OF THE BUILDINGS INCREASED THE
PERMIT COSTS BY APPROXIMATELY $39,000.00. WADE ELLIOTT ALSO SAID THAT
HE FELT THAT IT WAS UNFAIR TO USE THE ASSIGNED ICC VALUES INSTEAD OF
THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION COSTS OF THE BUILDINGS. HE THEN REFERENCED
THE ACTUAL COSTS FOR CONSTRUCTION THAT HAD BEEN PROVIDED TO
COUNCIL FOR THEIR REVIEW IN CONTRAST TO THE MATERIAL THAT HAD BEEN
PROVIDED BY CITY STAFF. WADE ELLIOTT SAID THAT THIS WAS THE POINT THAT
HE WANTED TO MAKE WITH COUNCIL; THE COMPARISON TO THE EARLIER
PROJECT IN ST. HELENS AND HIS CONTENTION THAT BUILDING CONSTRUCTION
COSTS SHOULD BE USED INSTEAD OF ICC VALUES TO FORMULATE PERMIT
FEES. HE THEN ASKED IF ANYONE ELSE FROM HIS TEAM WANTED TO PROVIDE
AND FURTHER INFORMATION AS WELL.
VALYRIE GERMAN SPOKE NEXT ON BEHALF OF THE CONSTRUCTION GROUP AND
REFERENCED THE SPREADSHEETS THAT SHE HAD PROVIDED FOR COUNCIL’S
REVIEW. SHE TOO MENTIONED THAT SHE WAS EXCITED ABOUT THE BUSINESS
COMING TO COLUMBIA CITY AND WAS SURE THAT THE CITY FELT THE SAME WAY
WITH THE LOT FINALLY BEING COMMERCIALLY DEVELOPED. SHE SAID THAT SHE
DID EXPERINCE “STICKER SHOCK” WHEN SHE SAW THE PERMIT FEE COSTS,
ESPECIALLY IN CONTRAST TO WHAT SHE REFERRED TO AS THE COST OF THE
BUILDING. SHE ALSO SAID THAT SHE APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO
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ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ABOUT THE ISSUE. VALYRIE GERMAIN ALSO SAID THAT
SOME OF THE BUILDINGS BEING CONSTRUCTED ARE NOT FINISHED IN RESPECT
TO SHEETROCK, FLOORING, ETC., AND SHE STATED THAT THESE BUILDINGS ARE
MORE LIKE A WAREHOUSE RATHER THAN A FULLY FINISHED STRUCTURE. SHE
SAID THAT THESE WERE HER MAIN POINTS THAT SHE WANTED TO MAKE AND
THEN DEFERRED TO JOSH KOMP AND JERRY REID FOR ANY INPUT THAT THEY
MAY HAVE WANTED TO SHARE IN REGARD TO BUILDING CONSTRUCTION.
NEITHER JOSH KOMP NOR JERRY REID PROVIDED ANY INPUT AT THAT TIME.
COUNCILOR JEFF REINAN NEXT ASKED THE CONSTRUCTION GROUP IF THEY
HAD SEEN THE WRITTEN RESPONSE FROM THE CITY’S BUILDING OFFICIAL, MIKE
DEROIA, REGARDING THE PERMIT FEE ISSUE. THIS WRITTEN REPONSE WAS
INCLUDED IN THE CITY COUNCIL’S AGENDA PACKET AND COUNCILOR REINAN
POINTED OUT THAT THE BUILDING OFFICIAL ADDRESSED IN THAT WRITTEN
RESPONSE THE CONSTRUCTION VALUES VERSUS ICC CODES USAGE IN
FORMULATING THE PERMIT FEES. COUNCILOR REINAN DID SAY THAT HE DID
NOT KNOW WHERE THE ICC VALUES CAME FROM BUT THAT THE BUILDING
OFFICIAL LAID ALL OF THE INFORMATION OUT FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. WAYDE
ELLIOTT ASKED JOSH KOMP TO RESPOND TO THIS ISSUE AND HE DID SO BY
VERIFYING THAT THE ICC VALUES ARE PUBLISHED AS A NATIONAL SET OF
VALUES BY BUILDING TYPE AND DO NOT REFLECT CONSTRUCTION COSTS. IN
ESSENCE, THE ICC APPLIES A STANDARD SET OF COSTS BASED UPON THE
BUILDINGS CLASSIFICATION AND NOT WHAT IT COSTS TO CONSTRUCT THE
BUILDING.
CITY ADMINISTRATOR MIKE MCGLOTHLIN THEN ASKED BUILDING OFFICIAL MIKE
DEROIA IF THERE WAS ANYTHING ELSE THAT HE NEEDED TO ELABORATE ON,
OUTSIDE OF HIS LETTER, FOR COUNCIL. MIKE DEROIA RESPONDED THAT JOSH
KOMP WAS CORRECT IN THAT THE ICC TABLES ARE A NATIONWIDE SET
STANDARD, THAT THEY ARE CITED IN OREGON ADMINISTRATIVE RULES AS THE
SET STANDARD, AND THAT IT IS HIS UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS NOT
CONFLICT IN HOW THE FEES WERE ULTIMATELY DETERMINED. HE REITERATED
THAT THE CORRECT METHODOLGY, TABLES, AND ORDINANCE INTERPRETATION
WERE USED AND THAT THE FEES WERE WHAT THEY WERE. HE ALSO CLARIFIED
THAT REGARDLESS OF THE TYPES OF FINISHES THAT ARE CONTAINED WITHIN A
BUILDING, STAFF ARE STILL REQUIRED TO INSPECT AND REVIEW TO THE
ESTABLISHED STANDARD. INSPECTION SERVICES REMAIN THE SAME AND MIKE
DEROIA SAID THAT THEY WERE APPLIED CORRECTLY IN THIS CASE BY
FOLLOWING THE APPROPRIATE METHODOLOGY. MIKE DEROIA DID SAY THAT IF
THE CITY WANTED TO ADDRESS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF FEES, THEN THE FEE
SCHEDULE SHOULD BE AMENDED. HE SAID THAT BY AMENDING THE FEE
SCHEDULE, AND NOT THE METHODOLOGY USED TO ARRIVE AT THE PERMIT
COSTS, THE CITY COULD ENSURE THAT EQUAL APPLICATION OF THE STANDARD
WAS BEING MET; NOT ONLY WITH THIS PROJECT BUT WITH ALL OTHER
PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD.
HELEN JOHNSON, CITY BUILDING ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT, WHEN ASKED BY
THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR FOR ANY INPUT THAT SHE MAY HAVE, REPLIED THAT
SHE WAS PRESENT FOR ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT, TO ANSWER ANY
QUESTIONS THAT MAY BE HAD, AND TO EXPLAIN THE SPREADSHEETS THAT SHE
HAD PREPARED ON THE CITY’S BEHALF. SHE SAID THAT SHE HAD NO FURTHER
INPUT AT THAT TIME.
THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR THEN ASKED COUNCIL IF THERE WERE ANY
QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, STEVE PETERSEN, WHO WAS PRESENT
TO OFFER LEGAL COUNSEL RELATED TO THE DISCUSSION. COUNCIL HAD NO
QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY BUT COUNCILOR THISTLE SAID THAT HE
DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY BUILDING OFFICIAL, MIKE DEROIA.
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COUNCILOR THISTLE ASKED MIKE DEROIA IF THIS PROJECT WAS IN RAINIER OR
CLATSKANIE WOULD THE SCHEDULE BE THE SAME? MIKE DEROIA RESPONDED
THAT EACH MUNICIPALITY HAS ITS OWN FEE SCHEDULES AND THAT HE CAN
ONLY ANSWER AS TO WHAT THE CITIES OF ST. HELENS AND COLUMBIA CITY
WOULD DO. HE SAID THAT THE STATE SETS THE METHODOLOGY THAT EACH
MUNICIPALITY HAS TO GO BY BUT THAT EACH MUNICIPALITY HAS THEIR OWN
FEE SCHEDULE, AND THAT COLUMBIA CITY’S FEE SCHEDULE WAS LAST
UPDATED IN JULY OF 2020. COUNCILOR THISTLE THEN ASKED IF THE PROJECT
WAS IN ST. HELENS WOULD THE FEE SCHEDULE BE THE SAME? MIKE DEROIA
RESPONDED THAT IN THIS CASE IT WOULD AS COLUMBIA CITY HAS ADOPTED
THE SAME FEE SCHEDULE AS ST. HELENS. HE FURTHER CLARIFIED THAT THE
PERMIT FEES WOULD BE THE SAME BUT THAT THE SYSTEM DEVELOPMENT
CHARGES (SDC’S) WOULD DIFFER.
COUNCILOR REINAN THEN ELABORATED THAT BASED UPON THE STATEMENT
THAT THESE BUILDINGS WERE UNFINISHED WITH NO SHEETROCK OR OTHER
FINISHINGS, HE ALSO NOTICED THAT THERE WERE THREE DIFFERENT BUILDING
CLASSIFICATIONS: A, B, AND C. COUNCILOR REINAN THEN ASKED WAS
CONSIDERATION TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT THESE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE
DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUILDINGS? MIIKE DEROIA RESPONDED THAT SOME OF
THE BUILDINGS WERE CONSIDERED AS UNFINISHED IN THAT THEY WERE STEEL
SUPPORTED WITH METAL SHEETING, BUT THAT THEY ALSO HAD FIREWALLS,
FOUNDATIONS, WALLS, AND ROOFS PRESENT WHICH REQUIRES REVIEW AND
INSPECTION. MIKE DEROIA ALSO SAID THAT TWO OF THE BUILDINGS WERE
ESENTIALLY CONSIDERED AS CARPORTS AND THAT ALLOWANCES WERE MADE
FOR THESE TWO SPECIFIC BUILDINGS UNDER A SEPARATE STANDARD THAT
WAS FOUND TO BE FAIRER TO THE APPLICANT.
WADE ELLIOTT THEN REPEATED THE DIFFERENCES IN ICC VALUE VERSUS
CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR THE BUILDINGS AND THAT THE DEGREE OF
INSPECTIONS NEEDED FOR SOME OF THE BUILDINGS IN RELATION TO THE
COSTS SEEMED EXCESSIVE TO HIM. MIKE DEROIA REPLIED THAT HE
UNDERSTOOD THE POINT BEING MADE BUT THAT THE METHODOLGY USED WAS
CORRECT AND THAT IT WAS EQUALLY APPLIED TO THIS PROJECT AS IT WOULD
TO ANY OTHER. WADE ELLIOTT THEN ASKED MIKE DEROIA IF THERE HAD BEEN
SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN ST. HELENS SINCE HE LAST WORKED IN ST. HELENS?
MIKE DEROIA REPLIED HE DID NOT HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT BUT THAT HE
COULD RESEARCH THE HISTORY OF TABLE CHANGES AND PROVIDE THAT
ANSWER.
WADE ELLIOTT THEN SUMMARIZED THAT THE CONSTRUCTION GROUP WAS
ASKING FOR A REDUCTION IN THE PERMIT FEES REQUIRED AND THAT THEY BE
BASED UPON CONSTRUCTION VALUE INSTEAD OF THE ICC TABLE OF VALUES BY
BUILDING TYPE. THIS WOULD RESULT IN A REDUCTION OF THE ASSOCIATED
FEES IN THE AMOUNT OF APPROXIMATELY $39,000.00.
MAYOR WHEELER THEN ASKED IF THIS ISSUE NEEDED TO BE DECIDED TONIGHT
OR IF THE COUNCIL COULD TAKE TIME TO DECIDE ON THE ISSUE. THE CITY
ADMINISTRATOR RESPONDED THAT COUNCIL COULD TAKE TIME TO REVIEW AND
DISCUSS FURTHER BEFORE REACHING A DECISION IN THE NEAR FUTURE. CITY
ATTORNEY STEVE PETERSEN ALSO CONCURRED WITH THAT ASSESSMENT FOR
REACHING A DECISION AND COMMUNICATING IT TO THE CONSTRUCTION
GROUP.
COUNCILOR REINAN ASKED HOW LONG THE CONSTRUCTION GROUP HAD
KNOWN ABOUT THE PERMIT FEES AND THE REASON FOR THE DELAY IN
APPROACHING COUNCIL, IF THERE WAS ONE. WADE ELLIOTT REPLIED THAT
THEY HAD KNOW ABOUT THE FEES FOR A WHILE BUT ALSO KNEW THAT IT
WOULD BE A TIME-CONSUMING PROCESS TO APPEAL THE ISSUE TO COUNCIL.
NOT WANTING TO CAUSE DELAYS AT THE CONSTRUCTION SITE WITH
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FOUNDATION AND DRIVEWAY WORK WERE KEY FACTORS IN DECIDING TO WAIT
TO APPROACH COUNCIL, ACCORDING TO WADE ELLIOTT. COUNCILOR THISTLE
THEN ASKED IF THIS WAS “SOMEWHAT LIKE GOING TO A RESTAURANT AND
EATING THE MEAL WITH COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PRICE AFTER EVERYTHING
HAD BEEN EATEN?” HE ADDITIONALLY SAID THAT “YOU ARE UNDERWAY IN THE
PROJECT AND THAT IS, ANYWAY, KINDA MY THOUGHT”. VALYRIE GERMAN THEN
SAID THAT THE GROUP WANTED TO ADDRESS COUNCIL IN JANUARY BUT THAT
BY THE TIME THAT DECISION HAD BEEN MADE IT WAS TWO DAYS PRIOR TO THE
MEETING. THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR DID CONFIRM THAT THE CITY WAS
APPROACHED ABOUT THE ISSUE OFFICIALLY IN JANUARY.
MAYOR WHEELER THEN ASKED THE REST OF COUNCIL IF THEY WOULD LIKE
MORE TIME TO THINK ABOUT THE REQUEST PRIOR TO REACHING A DECISION.
BY CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL IT WAS DECIDED TO TAKE TIME TO CONSIDER THE
ISSUE FURTHER AND THEN COORDINATE WITH THE CONSTRUCTION GROUP TO
RECONVENE IN ORDER FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO ANNOUNCE THEIR DECISION.
7.2 Review, discussion, and consideration for approval of a Structure in the Right-
of-Way Permit Application, as submitted by Renee Racicot of 1500 Fourth
Street.
THE CITY COUNCIL CONDUCTED INITIAL REVIEW OF THE APPLICATION AS
SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT, RENEE RACICOT. COUNCIL THEN HEARD FROM
BOTH THE APPLICANT AND ADJACENT NEIGHBORS, MARK AND GLORENE
STEVENS OF 1505 THIRD STREET. THE STEVENS’ HAD FILED A LETTER
EXPRESSING THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THE PLACEMENT OF THE FENCE IN THE
AREA AS IT WAS PROPOSED IN THAT THEY FELT IT WOULD CREATE ADDITIONAL
DIFFICULTY IN THE ENTERING AND EXITING OF VEHICLES FROM THE PARKING
AREA AT THE STEVENS’ RESIDENCE. AS A COMPROMISE, THE STEVENS’
PROPOSED TO COUNCIL THAT UPON APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION AS
SUBMITTED IT BE NOTED THAT IF THESE CONCERNS DID OCCUR THE FENCE
WOULD THEN HAVE TO BE REMOVED FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AREA.
COUNCIL THEN ASKED CITY ATTORNEY STEVE PETERSEN IF THE CITY COULD DO
SO, AND HE REPLIED THAT THE CITY WOULD STILL RETAIN ITS PROPERTY
RIGHTS WITHIN THE AREA AND THAT IT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO PROCEED
WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION WITH THIS PROVISION NOTED WITH
THE MINUTES FOR THIS MEETING. GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING
THIS APPLICATION, COUNCILOR ZIGLINSKI SUGGESTED THAT A DECISION ON
THE APPLICATION BE SUSPENDED UNTIL COUNCIL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
GO TO THE SITE AND CONDUCT A REVIEW. BY CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL IT WAS
AGREED TO DO SO AND THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR WAS TASKED WITH
COORDINATING THE SITE VISIT.
AGENDA ITEM 8 OTHER BUSINESS: The City Administrator discussed the following items with Council:
1. Current city personnel policy does not have provisions for
maternity leave as the city, due to its low number of
employees, is not bound by the provisions of the Family
Medical Leave Act (FMLA) or the Oregon Family leave Act
(OFLA). Historically, and perhaps by happenstance, city
employees have not had a need for maternity leave provisions
to effectively address leave needed to be taken in the case of
a birth of a child. The closest available city personnel policy
available for reference is the city’s leave of absence policy.
However, this policy requires that a staff member be employed
for 12 months, is limited to 60 days of non-paid leave time and
requires that a staff member pre-pay their insurance benefits
prior to the leave starting. The City Administrator brought this
issue to Council as current circumstances involving staff have
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changed and guidance is being sought as it relates to the
amendment of policy. Council and the City Administrator took
part in discussion about the various factors surrounding a
policy amendment. At the conclusion of this discussion the
City Administrator said that he would research the available
options and would be prepared to deliver policy development
choices to Council at their March 17, 2022, meeting.
2. Updates were given to Council for the projects related to the
roofing replacements at City Hall and the Community Hall, the
budgeting software for the Administration Department, and the
body-worn camera systems for the Police Department. These
projects are all being funded by the revenues provided under
the American Relief Plan Act (ARPA) of 2021. Additional city
infrastructure projects will also be funded using these monies.
3. The Columbia City Planning Commission is soliciting interest
from the City Council in conducting a joint meeting to discuss
future policy goals and objectives that are relevant to the work
of the commission. By consensus of Council, it was agreed to
participate in this future meeting with coordination to follow.
AGENDA ITEM 9 ADJOURNMENT:
9.1 There being no further business to come before the Council, the meeting adjourned
at 7:45 pm.
APPROVED:
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Casey Wheeler
Mayor
ATTEST:
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Michael S. McGlothlin
City Administrator/Recorder
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