Environmental Impact Commission
Regular MeetingDanbury, CT · September 13, 2023
Minutes
Posted in City of Danbury Town Clerk’s office on September 28, 2023 at 10:01 a.m.
CITY OF DANBURY
155 DEER HILL AVENUE
DANBURY, CONNECTICUT 06810
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT COMMISSION (203) 797-4525
www.danbury-ct.gov (203) 797-4586 (FAX)
REGULAR MEETING
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT COMMISSION
MINUTES
CITY HALL – 155 DEER HILL AVENUE
City Council Chambers
Wednesday, September 13, 2023
7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
Chairman Bernard Gallo called the meeting to order at 7:03 p.m. Present by roll call:
Tom Giegler, Mark Massoud, Geoff Herald, and Mary Cronin. Staff present was Melissa Llera,
Secretary, and Abby Lewis, Public Health Inspector. Absent were Matthew Rose, Elizabeth Falk
and Alex Wolk.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mark Massoud
ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES: August 23, 2023
Motion to accept the minutes of August 23, 2023 as presented was made by Geoff
Herald; seconded by Mary Cronin. No remarks. All in favor with Ayes from Tom Giegler,
Mark Massoud, Geoff Herald, and Mary Cronin.
Next regular meeting is scheduled for September 27, 2023.
NEW BUSINESS:
#1201 100 Aunt Hack Rd., Richter Golf Course, (C11047), RA-80 Zone, Storm drainage
repairs.
Rob Dorsch of Richter Golf Course on site to present. They currently have 12”, 18” and
36” old, aluminum corrugated drain pipes on site that carry water. The tops and bottoms have
rotted out, and are now a liability. They are looking to replace pipes for holes 8, 12 and 16 this
year. They would install new ADS pipe, along with some open ditches. They have provided
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pictures of what the open ditches would look like. Abby Lewis stated she did a site walk, and
agrees the work needs to be completed as it is a hazard. No further remarks or questions.
Motion to table to No. 1201, 100 Aunt Hack Rd., for project impact report was made by
Geoff Herald, seconded by Mary Cronin. All in favor with Ayes from Tom Giegler, Mark
Massoud, Geoff Herald, and Mary Cronin.
OLD BUSINESS:
#1198 76 West Redding Rd., Stasio, Dan, (H24031), RA-80 Zone, Code-complying
septic systems.
Steve Trinkaus, engineer, was present to represent the application. Mr. Gallo stated that
everyone received a copy of the response from Corporation Counsel stating that one application
for the four cottages was acceptable. Mr. Trinkaus stated after the last meeting his client
informed him he is pumping the current septics every 2-3 months. They are all on borrowed
time. The systems were originally from the 1950s. The client doesn’t know what cottages he
would expand down the road. He wants to install the new septic systems now though, so that
part of the project is done. He would then come back to EIC for a modification when he
proceeds with the expansions of the cottages since that would still be in the 100 ft. upland review
area. They want to put in the systems that would handle the four bedroom cottages. They are all
Greenleach systems. The client would get a a better economical deal to install all four at one
time. The systems would be oversized for the current cottages. This would mean the effluent
would be dispersed over a wider area, and would be better environmentally. He has installed
oversized systems at other locations in the past.
Mr. Gallo clarifies that the systems they would install would in fact handle the proposed
four bedroom cottages. Mr. Trinkaus confirmed they would, and stated that all cottages may not
even be expanded in the future. The soil and gravel in the area is ideal for the systems, as was
determined during the testing. The owner said most of the systems out there are just a septic
tank going to a cess pool of concrete blocks with gravel around it. The systems would be a large
upgrade from what is there. Mark Massoud asks if all of the systems are on borrowed time and
being pumped frequently. Mr. Trinkaus states the cottage with only one person is being cleaned
every four months, and the other three with two people are being pumped every 2 months.
Mr. Massound states his concern about giving a blanket approval that could include
expansion of the four cottages, along with the new septic systems. Mr. Trinkaus stated they are
looking for just the approval for the septic systems, and leave the approval for the additions off
the table. They will come back for another permit for the additions once they have exact plans.
Mr. Massound asks if there are four separate septic systems. Mr. Trinkaus said yes. The
systems will be as follows: Cottage A will have a septic tank to a Greenleach system via gravity,
Cottage B (rear, left) will have a septic tank, pump chamber and Greenleach system by Cottage
C, Cottage C will have a septic tank, pump chamber and Greenleach system there also, and
Cottage D (bottom, right) will have a septic tank, pump chamber, and Greenleach system by
Cottage A where the good soil is. Mr. Massoud asked if they looked into a community or
combined system. Mr. Trinkaus said the leeching areas would be completely the same. You
would just connect the two systems/ rows. He would then have to go through DEEP permitting
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for it despite the low flow since it would be a community system. Mr. Massoud asked if the
linear disturbance would be the same; Mr. Trinkaus confirmed yes.
Geoff Herald asked for clarification on being able to upsize the septic system i.e. you
could have a two bedroom cottage and install a system for a six bedroom cottage. Mr. Trinkaus
said there is no limitation, and provided a past example of a time he had upsized a system based
on water usage/ volume. The current systems have lasted approx. 70 years. With the new
systems, you shouldn’t have to revisit for another 80-100 years.
Mr. Massoud wants to explore phasing or some way for the board to maintain control
over the future developments on the site if they approve the application. Mr. Trinkaus states that
he will amend his request to only include the septic systems and not the building expansions.
Mr. Giegler expresses his approval of moving forward with the proposed septic, but that the
building expansions should come back to the commission for approval. Abby Lewis clarifies
that the approval going forward would only be for the B100a and not the building expansions.
Mr. Trinkaus confirms.
Motion to table No. 1198, 76 West Redding Rd., for project impact report was made by
Mark Massoud, seconded by Geoff Herald. All in favor with Ayes from Tom Giegler, Mark
Massoud, Geoff Herald, and Mary Cronin.
______________________________________________________________________________
#1188 1 Mariana Farms Dr., Piacente, Devin & Josemary, (B13048), RA-80, Feasibility
of Subdivision
Mr. Gallo stated that Abby Lewis spoke with Ralph Gallagher. He is willing to withdraw
the application if he can reapply without paying a fee in the future. Mr. Gallo stated the board
doesn’t want it lingering on the agenda. Mark Massoud commented that they could deny it
without prejudice, but Mr. Gallo stated that wouldn’t address the fee. Mark Massoud comments
the board could vote to waive the fee. Mr. Gallo said that he will look into options prior to the
next meeting, but for now it will remain as is.
Motion to table to No. 1188, 1 Mariana Farms Dr, for more information was made by
Geoff Herald, seconded by Mary Cronin. All in favor with Ayes from Tom Giegler, Mark
Massoud, Geoff Herald, and Mary Cronin.
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APPLICATION FOR ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL:
Mr. Gallo presents an application for 121 Aunt Hack to the board. The application came
in after the agenda had been completed. There was an approval in 2022, and there are now a few
changes to the plan. He would like to add application No. 1203 to the agenda.
Motion to add No. 1203, 121 Aunt Hack Rd., to the agenda was made by Mark Massoud,
seconded by Geoff Herald. All in favor with Ayes from Tom Giegler, Mark Massoud, Geoff
Herald, and Mary Cronin.
Abby Lewis presents the changes to the original plan for 121 Aunt Hack. It was
originally approved under EIC permit 1157 last April 2022. There is a new owner for the
property. It is an empty lot of approx. 2-3 acres. They have moved the single family home
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slightly closer, so it is now 70 ft. away from the wetlands delineation line. They have also
swapped the septic and septic reserve area. Therefore the septic will now be in the original
septic reserve area and vice versa. Those are the only changes to the plan. The board expresses
approval to present this as an Administrative Approval.
Motion to grant Administrative Approval to No. 1203, 121 Aunt Hack Rd., was made by
Geoff Herald, seconded by Mark Massoud. All in favor with Ayes from Tom Giegler, Mark
Massoud, Geoff Herald, and Mary Cronin.
VIOLATIONS: Barnum Road, Danbury, CT- Cease & Desist
Mr. Gallo states that everyone received a copy of another letter that was sent out. This is
taking more time than they want it to, but they want to make sure they get it right so it sticks.
The letter stated that he has until the next meeting to come before the commission. The action
needs to be done through the Cease & Desist, and not through a new application which would
give them five years to complete the actions. Mark Massoud supports that the final actions
should be completed through the Cease & Desist, and the commission should put a time frame
on the completion. He also expressed concern that the installation of the 160 ft. of chain link
fence being required might be considered overkill. He questions if there may be an alternative
that the applicant might be agreeable to like a split rail fence. Mr. Gallo stated that the idea of
the fence would help prevent him from future dumping, which Mr. Herald also supports.
Motion to table Cease & Desist until next regularly scheduled meeting was made by
Geoff Herald, seconded by Mark Massoud. All in favor with Ayes from Tom Giegler, Mark
Massoud, Geoff Herald, and Mary Cronin.
ADJOURNMENT:
Motion to adjourn was made by Geoff Herald; seconded by Mary Cronin. All in favor
with Ayes from Tom Giegler, Mark Massoud, Geoff Herald, and Mary Cronin.
Meeting adjourned at 7:26 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Melissa Llera
Recording Secretary
Agenda
Posted in City of Danbury Town Clerk’s office on September 11, 2023 at 3:01 p.m.
CITY OF DANBURY
155 DEER HILL AVENUE
DANBURY, CONNECTICUT 06810
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT COMMISSION (203) 797-4525
www.danbury-ct.gov (203) 797-4586 (FAX)
REGULAR MEETING
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT COMMISSION
AGENDA
CITY HALL – 155 DEER HILL AVENUE
City Council Chambers
Wednesday, September 13, 2023
7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL:
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
ACCEPTANCE OF MINUTES: August 23, 2023
Click here for: Minutes, August 23, 2023
Next regular meeting is scheduled for September 27, 2023
NEW BUSINESS:
#1201 100 Aunt Hack Rd., Richter Golf Course, (C11047), RA-80 Zone, Storm drainage
repairs.
Click here for: Application Materials
OLD BUSINESS:
#1198 76 West Redding Rd., Stasio, Dan, (H24031), RA-80 Zone, Code-complying
septic systems.
Click here for: Application Materials
______________________________________________________________________________
EIC AGENDA – September 13, 2023
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#1188 1 Mariana Farms Dr., Piacente, Devin & Josemary, (B13048), RA-80, Feasibility
of Subdivision
Click here for: Application Materials
APPLICATION FOR ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL: None
ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF ACTIONS: None
VIOLATIONS: Barnum Road, Danbury, CT - Cease & Desist
OTHER MATTERS: None
CORRESPONDENCE:
ADJOURNMENT:
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