City Commission Workshop
Regular MeetingDeltona, FL · October 11, 2021
Minutes
City of Deltona
2345 Providence Blvd.
Deltona, FL 32725
Minutes
City Commission Workshop
Monday, October 11, 2021 5:30 PM Deltona Commission Chambers
1. CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order at 5:30 p.m. by Mayor Herzberg.
2. ROLL CALL – CITY CLERK:
Present: 9 - Mayor Herzberg
Vice Mayor Bradford
Commissioner Avila-Vazquez
Commissioner King
Commissioner McCool
Commissioner Ramos
Commissioner Sosa
City Attorney
Acting City Manager
3. PLEDGE TO THE FLAG:
Commissioner King led everyone in the pledge to the flag.
4. BUSINESS:
A. Insurance presentation for process.
The Acting City Manager stated staff passed out a two- page document for the
Commission and some were left at the back table for the residents. The request was to
review the City’s insurance process on how it works. He gave a brief overview on the
insurance that is in place, the process, concerns regarding how past claims were handled
and the process moving forward.
The Commission and Acting City Manager discussed internal claims, the City vs. the
insurance company settlement process, the Commission’s right to say “no”, discriminatory
complaints, the disciplinary and hearing process, analysis of claims, new personnel policy
and procedures, a letter of intent to terminate, the grievance process, investigations of past
employees, standard protocol, addressing deficiencies and having a workshop to go over
the policy changes.
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The Commission and Acting City Manager also discussed the importance of exit
interviews, the findings analysis, reasons for leaving, the insurance company vs. the City
Attorney, consequences on the City and not settling too quickly.
Mayor Herzberg asked to clarify if in the past exit interviews were stopped. Acting City
Manager explained that exit interviews were not stopped and he explained the review
process of the exit interviews.
The Commission and Acting City Manager discussed the importance of policies and
procedures, the lack of process. all claims in the last 10 years, settlements not disclosed to
the Commission, request for quarterly updates, having a fair process, claims going through
the insurance, and the true cost over time.
After discussion, the Commission concurred to have the Acting City Manager
bring back a process.
The Acting City Manager stated the City has reached a settlement in the Brandy White case
for $15,000 which the insurance will pay. At this point the settlement agreement will go back
to the court for a final order. This is a case where it was first turned over to the insurance
who denied the claim. Ms. White came before the Commission and staff reopened it. He
and Mr. Fowler negotiated an agreement for up to $25,000 worth of counseling that was
rejected. Then a lawsuit was filed by Ms. White which was turned over to the insurance
again. Both parties have signed and he did it under his spending authority of $25,000.
The Commission and Acting City Manager discussed Ms. White’s initial ask, the grievance
process, the handling of Ms. White’s complaint, and the City not being retaliatory or less
than upfront in the future.
B. Discussion Item: ASA Contract
Acting City Manager apologized for not being at the last meeting and he takes full
responsibility for not preparing the Deputy City Manager on a couple of items. He gave a
brief explanation of continuing services consultant contracts, the cost of a typical
engineering contract, the 2.5 to 3 multipliers, benefit packages, Commissioner King’s
concerns, the contract being for other services as assigned, accreditation processes,
Parks and Recreation Master Plan, parking inefficiencies, national standards per capita,
management structure, response times, and Mr. O’Grady’s qualifications. He also
discussed changes to the Code Compliance Department, staff changes, looking at work
schedules, Mr. Paradise’s new title and departments he oversees, internal investigations,
helping with the hiring process, and finding another background check company.
The Commission and Acting City Manager discussed Mr. O’Grady’s hourly rate, helping set
policy, defragging files, being more proficient, moving forward and operating like a City,
firefighter union negotiations, and Mr. O’Grady being contracted for 20 hours per week.
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5. PUBLIC COMMENTS: Time permitted, public comments shall be limited to items on
the agenda and shall not exceed two minutes. Please be courteous and respectful of
the views of others. Personal attacks on Commission members, City staff or members
of the public are not allowed, and will be ruled out of order by the Mayor.
Elbert Bryan, Deltona, spoke about the Insurance Premium Allocation Handout, nowhere
does it show what percentage of what went up or down from year to year, is it cheap
for us to settle or take to court, how the contract amount for Mr. O’Grady was put into the
agenda and he felt like he was misled and where was the transparency.
Richard Bellach, Deltona, spoke about the process, lawsuits, cost to residents, skirting
information, what the public thinks, Mr. O’Grady, nondisclosure form, settling claims, and
audience attendance.
6. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS:
The Acting City Manager stated with regards to Mr. Bryan’s comment about hiding things.
Staff was fully prepared to take the item off the agenda and make the corrections. He takes
full responsibility, what he did was take the agenda memo from back in January/February
copied it, made a couple of minor changes and totally missed the dollar amount that he
meant to change. One of things that will be done going forward is prior to public comment
on consent items if there is something that staff wants the Commission to pull it will be done
prior to public participation. Mr. Bryan is right; the perception was that staff was trying to pull
a fast one yet there were a couple of Commissioners who caught the error. Staff was fully
prepared to pull the and correct the item separate from the consent items for transparency.
7. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 6:43 p.m.
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Bridgette Lodwig, EXECUTIVE ASSISTANT
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Agenda
City of Deltona
2345 Providence Blvd.
Deltona, FL 32725
Agenda
City Commission Workshop
Mayor Herzberg
Vice Mayor Bradford
Commissioner Avila-Vazquez
Commissioner King
Commissioner McCool
Commissioner Ramos
Commissioner Sosa
Monday, October 11, 2021 5:30 PM Deltona Commission Chambers
1. CALL TO ORDER:
2. ROLL CALL – CITY CLERK:
3. PLEDGE TO THE FLAG:
4. BUSINESS:
A. Insurance presentation for process.
B. Discussion Item: ASA Contract
Background: Staff will review the duties and accomplishments of ASA with
Commission as requested at the October 4th Commission Meeting.
5. PUBLIC COMMENTS: Time permitted, public comments shall be limited to items
on the agenda and shall not exceed two minutes. Please be courteous and respectful
of the views of others. Personal attacks on Commission members, City staff or
members of the public are not allowed, and will be ruled out of order by the Mayor.
6. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS:
7. ADJOURNMENT:
NOTE: If any person decides to appeal any decision made by the City Commission
with respect to any matter considered at this meeting or hearing, he/she will need
a record of the proceedings, and for such purpose he/she may need to ensure that
a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony
and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based (F.S. 286.0105).
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proceedings should contact the City Clerk, Joyce Raftery 3 business days in
advance of the meeting date and time at (386) 878-8500.
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