City Commission Workshop
Regular MeetingDeltona, FL · July 25, 2022
Minutes
City of Deltona
2345 Providence Blvd.
Deltona, FL 32725
Minutes
City Commission Workshop
Monday, July 25, 2022 5:30 PM Deltona Commission Chambers
1. CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order at 5:30 p.m. by Mayor Herzberg.
2. ROLL CALL – CITY CLERK:
Present: 7 - Mayor Herzberg
Vice Mayor Avila-Vazquez
Commissioner Bradford
Commissioner King
Commissioner McCool
Commissioner Ramos
Commissioner Sosa
3. PLEDGE TO THE FLAG:
4. BUSINESS:
A. Workshop to review proposed annual budget for FY 2022/2023. - Mari
Leisen, Finance Director (386) 878-8552.
Strategic Goal: Maintain a balanced budget, reserves and investments
The Acting City Manager gave a PowerPoint presentation on Pension Deficit Payment
Review, Amount of Deficit, Percentage of Coverage, Deficit Coverage Time, Rate of
Return, Recommendation, Sheriff Contact, and Trim Review & Discussion.
Finance Director Mari Leisen spoke about the proposed five-year budget based on a 7.85
Millage.
The Commission, Acting City Manager, VSO (Volusia Sheriff's Office) and staff discussed
the Deltona tax roll, the firefighters retirement/pension, VSO budget, capital improvement
projects, general fund balance, result of deferring projects, recurring costs, rollback,
reducing level of service, results/liability of county going to roll back, cost of living,
ad-valorem revenues, inflation, property values, cut backs, the fire assessment fee
resolution, added positions, county budget decisions, asking for a meeting between
Deltona, VSO and the county, distribution of costs, Deltona's use of services, VSO $2.41
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million rebate, double taxation, and Deltona's participation in the study group meetings.
The Commission, Acting City Manager and staff discussed Volusia County's general fund,
unincorporated Volusia County millage rates, and reallocations to Deltona's budget.
5. PUBLIC COMMENTS: Time permitted, public comments shall be limited to items
on the agenda and shall not exceed two minutes. Please be courteous and respectful
of the views of others. Personal attacks on Commission members, City staff or
members of the public are not allowed, and will be ruled out of order by the Mayor.
Mayor Herzberg opened public comments.
John Vicarro spoke about negotiations, offers to the Firefighters, firefighters' pension,
meetings with a 3rd party, growth, misinformation, not hearing from anybody, and nobody
asking questions.
Kurt Vroman spoke about 7.6% return, termination, ethics, integrity, March 31st for the past
10 years at 7.6% 8 of those years, and misinformation.
Elbert Bryan spoke about the VSO costs eating half of Deltona's millage rate, raises,
paying twice, and administrative fees.
Mayor Herzberg closed the public comments.
The Commission, Acting City Manager and staff discussed inviting the firefighters' pension
board members to the meeting.
Mayor Herzberg asked regarding question 4 - Does the Commission wish to
have a joint meeting with the firefighters' pension board and the Commission
concurred.
The Commission and staff discussed the firefighters' pension board requesting a joint
meeting, twisting numbers, consequences of past Commissions, working together,
fiduciary responsibilities, side by side comparisons, inconsistencies, and false information.
Also discussed was having a joint meeting with the firefighters' pension board, having
everyone involved attend, having no other topics on the agenda, and making it a Special
Commission Meeting because there is no time limit.
Mayor Herzberg asked regarding Item 3 - Is there consensus for the Acting City
Manager to enter into discussions with the County and the Sheriff regarding
future contract costs and the Commission concurred.
Mayor Herzberg asked regarding question 1 - Does the Commission want to
reconsider the maximum millage rate before the TRIM deadline of August 3rd,
The current maximum millage rate previously approved is 7.4955 mills and the
Commission concurred with the exception of Commissioner Bradford.
The Commission and Acting City Manager discussed the different rates, staff's
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recommendation, unknown factors, increases, understanding what can and cannot be
removed, mandatory budget items, and workman's compensation.
6. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS:
7. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 7:43 p.m.
______________________________
Elizabeth Keys, DEPUTY CITY CLERK
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Agenda
City of Deltona
2345 Providence Blvd.
Deltona, FL 32725
Agenda
City Commission Workshop
Mayor Herzberg
Vice Mayor Avila-Vazquez
Commissioner Bradford
Commissioner King
Commissioner McCool
Commissioner Ramos
Commissioner Sosa
Monday, July 25, 2022 5:30 PM Deltona Commission Chambers
1. CALL TO ORDER:
2. ROLL CALL – CITY CLERK:
3. PLEDGE TO THE FLAG:
4. BUSINESS:
A. Workshop to review proposed annual budget for FY 2022/2023. - Mari Leisen,
Finance Director (386) 878-8552.
Strategic Goal: Maintain a balanced budget, reserves and investments
Background: During the FY2022/2023 budget process, the City has conducted a
series of budget workshops. February 7, 2022 was the strategic
planning retreat to review the progress, update the strategic plan and
set the priorities for the City of Deltona for the budget process .
Subsequently, workshops were held on June 13, 2022 through June 15,
2022 to review the budget overview and the effect of proposed millage
rates on the operations and fund balance of the General Fund. An
additional workshop for line item review of the proposed budget was
held on June 27, 2022. The workshop today is to discuss updates to
the proposed budget, the Volusia County Sheriff Office proposed cost
allocation for law enforcement services, three scenarios to cover the
firefighter pension unfunded liability and the millage rate update from
the property appraiser’s office.
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Attachments: Firefigher 8M Pension Deficit Payment
Firefighter 14M Pension Deficit Payment at 5 Percent
Firefighter 14M Pension Deficit Payment at 6.5 Percent
Volusia County Taxable Values - City of Deltona
Maximum Millage Levy Calculation - Year 2022
VCSO - Summary
VCSO - Method 3 and 4 FY23
Deliverable 3 - Summary Analysis Report and Cost Allocation Methods_Final
GF Budget at a Glance_07212022
5. PUBLIC COMMENTS: Time permitted, public comments shall be limited to items
on the agenda and shall not exceed two minutes. Please be courteous and respectful
of the views of others. Personal attacks on Commission members, City staff or
members of the public are not allowed, and will be ruled out of order by the Mayor.
6. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS:
7. ADJOURNMENT:
NOTE: If any person decides to appeal any decision made by the City Commission
with respect to any matter considered at this meeting or hearing, he/she will need
a record of the proceedings, and for such purpose he/she may need to ensure that
a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony
and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based (F.S. 286.0105).
Individuals with disabilities needing assistance to participate in any of these
proceedings should contact the City Clerk, Joyce Raftery 3 business days in
advance of the meeting date and time at (386) 878-8500.
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