Historic Preservation Commission Meeting
Regular MeetingDripping Springs, TX · January 3, 2017
Minutes
Minutes
Regular Meeting
Historic Preservation Commission
City of Dripping Springs
A regular meeting of the City of Dripping Springs Historic Preservation Commission was held
Tuesday, January 3, 2017, beginning at 5:30 PM in the City Hall, 511 Mercer Street, Dripping
Springs, Texas.
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
COMMISSION
Melissa Oehler - Chair Nicholas Dotin John Holdridge
Karl Seelbach - Vice Chair Ted Lehr Vacancy
Kathryn Chandler
STAFF
Michelle Fischer, City Administrator
Rachel Goodnight, Administrative Assistant
Keenan Smith, Exterior Design, Architectural & Land Planning Consultant
Commission Chair Melissa Oehler calls the meeting to order at 5:30 pm. All present
except Commissioner Ted Lehr. Also present is Code Enforcement Manager/
Building Official Kyle Dannhaus.
II. PRESENTATION BY CITIZENS
Floor open to discussion on any subject. No action may be taken by law. Citizens
wishing to speak shall do so after being recognized by the Chair. The Chair may
establish a time limit on each citizen wishing to speak. No one speaks.
Commissioner Lehr arrives at 5:37 pm.
III. BUSINESS
Discussion and possible action regarding:
A. Application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for Old Fitzhugh Road
Office Park for a New Office Building and Adaptive Reuse Rehabilitation
of Existing Two Story Building, Located at 102 Old Fitzhugh Road, Weeton
Properties, LLC, Applicant
Commission Chair Melissa Oehler asks for an explanation of what happened
between the Certificate of Appropriateness approval and the tear down of the
structure.
1. Report on Project by Applicant-Gavin Loftus (owner), and Alan McAden
(contractor) give an overview of the demolition of the structure.
Mr. McAden describes the condition of the structure including the following:
the back half of the building was sitting on the ground; that was extensive
termite damage; the original panels were very thin; and repairs to the
building were not done properly. He states that the building couldn’t be
fixed without taking it apart piece by piece. He states that a structural
engineer determined that they were not able to repair the building without
taking it down. He stated that the structure was tilting, eventually resulting
in it needing to be propped up. He says the structure was at risk of collapse
and was not safe. Mr. McAden described how the building was taken down,
the corner footings were left, he took photographs throughout the process, he
stockpiled the materials, and materials will be reused.
2. Discussion and Possible Action Regarding Enforcement of Historic
Preservation Ordinance and Possible Penalties
Commissioner Dotin asks why they did not wait until Monday to take the
building down. Mr. McAden states that the structure was at risk of collapse
and unsafe and it was a safety precaution and he was concerned with
liability.
Commissioner Dotin asks why there was no fence around the site if a
collapse and safety were issues. Mr. McAden states he did not think a fence
was necessary and that he had cameras set up around the site.
Commissioner Dotin asks if the structural engineer gave them his
determination in writing. Mr. Mc Aden states that he did not.
Mr. Loftus states that four different builders were interviewed for the project
and no one would touch it. He states that the house leaned 6 feet. He states
that the previous owners, the Dodson, told him that the house would not
stand up, that it didn’t have the integrity to keep it up.
Commissioner her asks staff if they concurred with the need for the building
to come down. Keenan Smith states that the Certificate of Appropriateness
approval was approached as an adaptive reuse and says he and Kyle
Dannhaus met with the applicant, toured the building, saw the condition of it,
and encouraged him to work with the history of the building. He noted that
this building is listed as a non-conforming structure in the historic district.
Commission Chair Oehler asks if there was a point that Keenan felt that the
project could not be completed within the confines of what was permitted.
Keenan states that the permits that were approved reflected new
construction. The Certificate of Approval was a design approval based on
what you can see from the outside, and the ones that were approved were
based on the best information that they had. He says that the approach to
design of the project gets defined in the building permit stage. He
recommends improving the city’s process of checking Certificates of
Appropriateness against building permits.
Kyle Dannhaus goes over the new process that has been implemented and
what happened for eh building permit to not match up to the Certificate of
Appropriateness. In the future, if a building permit does not match up to
the Certificate of Appropriateness, the building permit will not be issued.
Commissioner Lehr asks if it was cheaper to tear down the building and
build a new building instead of trying to preserve it. Keenan Smith states
that throughout the entire process, everyone’s intention was to try to preserve
what they could.
Mr. McAden says that it would have been cheaper to tear down the structure
from the start, but he spent three weeks trying to find the best way to keep it
together, and then disassembled it.
Commissioner Dotin says he disagrees with the decision to take the building
down as a safety precaution, especially considering there was no fencing up
to protect the site.
Commission Chair Melissa Oehler asks what materials will be resued. Mr.
McAden states that they saved all the beans that were not rotten, and as
much tin, siding, and rock as they could.
Commission Chair Oehler asks where the rock will be used. Mr. McAden
says they are looking at creating a front seating wall that will carry on from
Mercer Street.
Commission Chair Oehler mentions that the applicant might want to think
about making it right with the community, many people are upset that the
building went down. Mr. Loftus states that he feels he made the best
decisions he could, and the previous owners are alright with what happened.
Mr. McAden recommends that the Commission fills some of their vacancies
with an engineer or professional construction person.
Keenan recommends more of a front end assessment is done on a property
before a Certificate of Appropriateness is issued. He also states that the
Commission could upgrade a non-contributing building to a contributing one
based on the significance of the site.
Commissioner Lehr asks Code Enforcement Manager/ Building Official
Kyle Dannhaus if he can document the lessons learned and procedural
changes that have occurred because of this situation. Kyle says yes, he will.
Keenan Smith says that Eugene Foster, a former member of the Commission
and historic preservation consultant that conducted the historic resource
survey of the district, recommends the Commission go beyond considering a
site as contributing based only visuals, and consider other things such as the
site’s history, the people who lived there, emotions, and community
connection.
Commissioner Lehr motions that staff compiles a set of lessons learned and
procedural changes coming from this incident and present it at the next
Historic Preservation Commission Meeting, along with a list of possible
penalties. Commissioner Holdridge seconds. VOTE: 4:1 in favor, motion
passes.
Commissioner Chandler says that, legally, it seems that the situation is over
and her emotions do not affect the visuals that were being considered.
Commission Chair Oehler agrees.
Commissioner Chandler motions to make a recommendation that
construction projects in Historic District require fencing to go up around it.
Commissioner Lehr seconds. VOTE: 4:1 in favor (Commissioner Dotin
opposes), motion passes.
Michelle Fischer reminds the Commission that, at the last Commission
meeting, they discussed creating a plaque or monument to honor the house. It
could mention the reuse of the original historic materials, and its historical
significance. Would the applicant be interested in that? Mr. Loftus states
that he and his wife will consider this. Commissioner Chandler says she
supports it. Commission Chair Oehler asks the applicant to submit
information for the plaque with the next 90 days.
Commissioner Dotin leaves the meeting at 6:44 pm.
B. Selection of Historic District Street Signs
No action taken.
C. Selection of Mercer Street Historic District Waste Receptacles
Commissioner Holdridge motions approve to the Harmony in bronze style.
Commissioner Chandler seconds. VOTE: 4:0 in favor, motion passes.
D. Proposed Mercer Street Landscaping and Pedestrian Improvements
Commission Chair Oehler and City Administrator Michelle Fischer will check
back with Brent Luck who is drafting recommendations. No action is taken.
E. Appointment of Commission Vice Chair
Commission Chair Oehler motions to make Commissioner Kathryn Chandler
the Vice Chair. Commissioner Lehr seconds. VOTE: 4:0 in favor, motion
passes.
F. Report on Administratively Approved Certificates of Appropriateness
1. Certificate of Appropriateness for Signage for Avery Grace, located at 400
W. Highway 290
IV. COMMISSION COMMITTEE REPORTS
A. Mercer Street Landscaping and Pedestrian Improvements--Ted Lehr and
Melissa Oehler
B. Signage--Melissa Oehler
C. Benches and Waste Receptacles--Nick Dotin
V. ANNOUNCEMENTS
A. Regular City Council Meeting, January 10, 2017 at 7:00 pm
B. Regular Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting, January 24, 2017 at 7:00
pm
C. Regular Historic Preservation Commission Meeting, February 6, 2017 at 5:30
pm
IX. ADJOURN -Commissioner Lehr motions to adjourn the meeting. Commissioner
Holdridge seconds. VOTE: 4:0 in favor, motion passes. Meeting adjourns at 7:11pm.
Agenda
City of Dripping Springs
Historic Preservation Commission Meeting Agenda
Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 5:30 PM
City Hall, 511 Mercer Street, Dripping Springs, Texas
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
COMMISSION:
Ted Lehr - Chair
Kathryn Chandler
Nicholas Dotin
John Holdridge
Melissa Oehler
Vacancy
Vacancy
STAFF:
Michelle Fischer, City Administrator
Rachel Goodnight, Administrative Assistant
Keenan Smith, Exterior Design, Architectural & Land Planning Consultant
II. PRESENTATION BY CITIZENS
Floor open to discussion on any subject. No action may be taken by law. Citizens wishing to
speak shall do so after being recognized by the Chair. The Chair may establish a time limit
on each citizen wishing to speak.
III. CONSENT ITEMS
Discussion and possible action regarding:
A. Approval of Regular Meeting Minutes, December 5, 2016
IV. BUSINESS
Discussion and possible action regarding:
A. Application for a Certificate of Appropriateness for Old Fitzhugh Road Office Park for a
New Office Building and Adaptive Reuse Rehabilitation of Existing Two Story Building,
Located at 102 Old Fitzhugh Road, Weeton Properties, LLC, Applicant
1. Report on Project by Applicant
2. Discussion and Possible Action Regarding Enforcement of Historic Preservation
Ordinance and Possible Penalties
B. Selection of Historic District Street Signs
C. Selection of Mercer Street Historic District Waste Receptacles
D. Proposed Mercer Street Landscaping and Pedestrian Improvements
E. Appointment of Commission Vice Chair
F. Report on Administratively Approved Certificates of Appropriateness
1. Certificate of Appropriateness for Signage for Avery Grace, located at 400 W.
Highway 290
V. COMMISSION COMMITTEE REPORTS
A. Mercer Street Landscaping and Pedestrian Improvements--Ted Lehr and Melissa Oehler
B. Signage--Melissa Oehler
C. Benches and Waste Receptacles--Nick Dotin
VI. ANNOUNCEMENTS
A. Regular City Council Meeting, January 10, 2017 at 7:00 pm
B. Regular Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting, January 24, 2017 at 7:00 pm
C. Regular Historic Preservation Commission Meeting, February 6, 2017 at 5:30 pm
All agenda items listed above are eligible for discussion and action unless otherwise specifically noted. Notice is
posted in accordance with Chapter 551, Government Code, Vernon’s Texas Codes, Annotated. I certify that the above
notice of meeting was posted at City of Dripping Springs City Hall and website, www.cityofdrippingsprings.com on
the 28th day of December of 2016.
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Angelica Reyes, City Secretary
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