Plan Commission
Regular MeetingEast Troy, WI · January 11, 2016
Minutes
Minutes
Village of East Troy
Plan Commission & Architectural Review Board
January 11, 2016
1. Call to order - President Timms called the meeting to order at 6:30 pm
2. Verification of open meeting notice - Administrator Suhm verified the meeting
had been posted according to open meetings laws.
3. Roll call
Present: President Timms, Trustee Seager, Commissioners Edward Arendt,
John Grudnowski, Anna Mack, Kirk Nelson
Excused:
Absent: Commissioner Serafin
Others: Zoning Administrator Tim Schwecke, Building Inspector Scott
Johnson and Administrator Suhm
4. Approve Plan Commission minutes of December 14, 2015
Motion by Trustee Seager, second by Commissioner Nelson to approve the
minutes dated December 14, 2015. Motion carried with Commissioner Arendt
abstaining.
5. Citizen participation
Andrea Frank, 2925 Elm Street, was present to address the Plan Commission.
She distributed handouts. Ms. Frank stated she had concerns regarding the
Contract Comestibles building, which had a site plan amendment approved at
the December 14, 2015, meeting. She stated early the prior week they began
erecting the walls, which exceed the approved 14 feet height by the Plan
Commission. She stated the walls being erected are 21 feet in height, which
does not include the peak. She also expressed concerns that she believed after
the building inspector issued a stop work order she continued to see
construction work taking place. It was necessary for the building inspector to
visit the site again on Friday and issue another stop work order. She also
expressed concerns regarding the completeness of their application to the Plan
Commission stating she felt the hours of operation listed were incorrect, the
applicant was listed incorrectly and the lots on the northeast side of the
property were not included. Finally, she stated there is a bay door framed in at
the site that did not exist on the plan approved by the Plan Commission.
Mark Rhode, owner of Rhode’s Towing, was present to discuss agenda item
number eight. He explained he had met with the zoning administrator to
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discuss whether or not a towing operation and U-Haul rental would be allowed
in a highway business district due to their interest in the Lynch Dealership
Property (2606 Main Street). He stated he felt the U-Haul rental would fall
under the zoning code description of vehicle rentals, citing the definition of a
vehicle is anything that would carry goods or people. Referring to the Zoning
Administrator’s staff report dated, January 6, 2016, he stated he disagreed with
the statement that a tow truck business and U-Haul rental would not depend on
drive-by business.
6. Conditional use for preexisting business (boat storage and repair, landscaping
materials and related uses in Highway Business zoning district) located at 1948
Byrnes Street; Complete Pier & Lifts (Ryan Niegelsen); (application 2015-33)
A. Public hearing (adjourned at the meeting on November 9, 2015 and
December 14, 2015)
President Timms opened the public hearing for the conditional use. With no
comments he adjourned it at 7: 46 until February 8, 2016.
B. Possible recommendation to the Village Board
No action taken.
Note: The applicant has submitted a written request asking to adjourn the
public hearing to the February 8, 2016 meeting.
7. Site plan for preexisting business (boat storage and repair, landscaping
materials and related uses in Highway Business zoning district) located at 1948
Byrnes Street; Complete Pier & Lifts (Ryan Niegelsen); (application 2015-34)
No discussion or action taken.
Note: The applicant has submitted a written request asking to table action on
this item to the February 8, 2016 meeting.
8. Potential amendment of zoning code with regard to truck-trailer rental
operations (e.g., U-haul) and towing operations
Zoning Administrator Schwecke reviewed his staff report dated January 6, 2016.
He concluded the towing and U-Haul rental did not fit into any specific category
after a review of the zoning code and was asking if the plan commission wanted
to consider amending the code to allow for these uses.
Trustee Seager questioned if an amendment was necessary and wondered if it
could be addressed as a conditional use. Zoning Administrator Schwecke
explained the zoning code can be amended to allow for this use, defining where
the land uses are allowed and defining if they are allowed as a conditional use
or permitted use. Without the amendment a conditional use cannot be issued.
Zoning Administrator Schwecke explained it is a policy issue the Plan
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Commission will need to address.
Discussion occurred amongst Plan Commission members regarding concerns
that this would be allowed in a highway business district as well as a gateway to
the community. Concerns included where the towed vehicles will be stored and
visibility of towed or junk vehicles.
Motion by Trustee Seager, second by President Timms to allow Mark Rhode to
address the plan commission. Motion carried.
Mr. Rhode addressed the Plan Commission stating it was not his indent to store
damaged vehicles outside. He stated they typically do not store a lot of
wrecked vehicles and anything of this nature would be placed in the storage
building on site. Any of the vehicles stored outside would be there for sale or
repair. President Timms questioned if the storage building on the Lynch site is
larger than the fenced-in area on their current property, as they appear to have
outgrown that storage area. Mr. Rhode stated he estimated the storage
building was approximately three times the size of the fenced in area. He also
explained they also own a trucking operation that would remain at the current
site because he understands that operation would not be in compliance with
the highway business zoning district and the current fenced-in area to serve as
overflow storage if that were to become necessary.
Commissioner Grudnowski expressed concerns regarding the visibility of the
towing operation. He also stated he felt a large fence on the property would
not be appealing. Mr. Rhode stated if more storage became necessary, the
intent would be to erect another building at that site
Zoning Administrator Schwecke explained according to the code retail vehicle
sales needs to be the principal use and repair needs to be incidental to vehicle
sales. He stated the question to consider is where in the Village the
Commission would want to allow towing operations. He explained in an
industrial district towing is not a problem because there can be outside storage.
He explained if they were inclined to allow towing operation in highway
business zoning it could be a conditional use and they could limit the operation
to a specific scope.
President Timms questioned if the Plan Commission supported the idea of
working with the applicant to come to an agreement as to how to proceed with
the type of amendment proposed. Commissioner Mack stated she would
support that, adding she would prefer it to be a conditional use. Commissioner
Grudnowski stated he was not so sure about the proposal because it is a
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gateway to the community, which was concerning to him. Commissioner
Nelson stated the property could sit vacant for a long period of time. He felt if
the Village has an applicant with a viable business and following the rules it
would benefit the community with a thriving appearance rather than a vacant
property coming into the village.
Trustee Seager questioned if it would be possible to see a very simple site plan
so the Commission had a better understanding of what was being proposed.
Zoning Administrator Schwecke proposed he could begin working on an
ordinance so the Plan Commission can review the simple site plan in
conjunction with the proposed ordinance. This would assist with expediting the
timing of approvals based on the property owner’s desire to finalize this by
March. He did caution it was likely everything would not be finalized until April,
if a conditional use is required for the towing operation. Mr. Rhode indicated
he understood and would consider only opening the dealership aspect at that
time if the other items had not been finalized.
9. Potential amendment of zoning code with regard to sign regulations
Zoning Administrator Schwecke reviewed his staff report dated January 6, 2016,
along with the draft ordinance. He explained the purpose of the amendment
was to be in compliance with a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that determined local
sign regulations must be content neutral. This means they cannot regulate the
message or establish regulations based on the type of message. In addition to
address this he stated he did add language to provide for projecting signs that
hang over the public sidewalk.
Discussion occurred regarding electronic message displays and how nits are
measured to ensure signs are in compliance. Commissioner Mack questioned
how the nit levels in the current ordinance were determined and expressed
concerns related to the look of the electronic message displays on the Square.
It was also questioned how this level would be controlled or measured on the
television monitor type of electronic signs that are being used. Zoning
Administrator Schwecke stated he would do more research on the nits. An
electronic message sign is typically controlled through a computer, where the
nit level can be set. He stated if the Plan Commission desired they could set
different standards to each of the different zoning districts.
Discussion occurred regarding the maximum combined square feet for
residential signs of 14 square feet. President Timms asked that the ordinance
be modified to provide clarity as to whether the maximum square footage
counted one or both sides of a double-sided sign.
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Zoning Administrator Schwecke stated on page 16, subsection Y regarding
window signs should not have been stricken. That will remain in the ordinance.
Zoning Administrator Schwecke stated sign permits will need to be explicit
regarding the maximum number of square feet for commercial purposes. He
explained it will be necessary to inform applicants that a sale or real estate sign
would be counted in the maximum square footage allowed. Therefore, it would
be prudent to reserve a certain amount of square footage to allow for these
types of temporary signs.
10. Recommendations for future agendas
No recommendations were made. President Timms informed the Plan
Commission that Commissioner Serafin had submitted his resignation due to
work-related conflicts with meetings.
11. Adjourn
Motion by Commissioner Arendt, second by Commissioner Grudnowski to
adjourn at 8:07 p.m. Motion carried.
Respectfully Submitted,
Eileen Suhm
Administrator
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