Plan Commission
Regular MeetingEast Troy, WI · February 8, 2016
Minutes
Minutes
Village of East Troy
Plan Commission & Architectural Review Board
February 8, 2016
1. Call to order - President Timms called the meeting to order at 6:30 pm
2. Verification of open meeting notice - Administrator Suhm verified the meeting
had been posted according to open meetings laws.
3. Roll call
Present: President Timms, Trustee Seager, Commissioners Edward Arendt,
John Grudnowski, Anna Mack, Kirk Nelson
Excused:
Absent: Commissioner Serafin
Others: Zoning Administrator Tim Schwecke, Building Inspector Scott
Johnson and Administrator Suhm
4. Approve Plan Commission minutes of January 11, 2016
Motion by Trustee Seager, second by Commissioner Arendt to approve the
minutes dated January 11, 2016. Motion carried.
5. Citizen participation - None
6. Conditional use for preexisting business (boat storage and repair, landscaping
materials and related uses in Highway Business zoning district) located at 1948
Byrnes Street; Complete Pier & Lifts (Ryan Niegelsen); (application 2015-33)
A. Public hearing (adjourned at the meeting on November 9, 2015,
December 14, 2015, and January 11, 2016)
President Timms opened the public hearing at 6:32 p.m. Ryan Niegelson,
W2435 St. Peter’s Road, spoke as the applicant for 1948 Byrnes Street. He
stated he is seeking a conditional use to continue his existing business. He
has worked with the Zoning Administrator on the application.
Zoning Administrator Schwecke reviewed his staff reported dated February
3, 2016. He attached an updated version for the conditional use, dated
February 3, 2016. The conditional use was revised based on discussions
with Mr. Niegelsen. He pointed out page two of the conditional use order
authorizes a limit of 40,000 square feet for indoor boat storage and 35,000
square feet for indoor/outdoor storage of piers. These two items had been
blank during prior Plan Commission review. The other item he pointed out
was on page three, item 4(a), which requires the owner to remove the
batch plant within six years of the date of the conditional use approval or
when building #6 is constructed, whichever is first. Zoning Administrator
Schwecke also explained Mr. Niegelsen initially proposed a temporary poly
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structure for storage, however, he is now looking to build the first building
as a permanent structure and not asking for approval of a poly structure.
In addition, Mr. Niegelsen originally depicted four buildings on his plans,
but has now reduced the number of buildings to three. Zoning
Administrator Schwecke informed the Commission public notice had been
provided. The non-comforming conditional use will remain with the
property, regardless of owner.
Commissioner Arendt questioned if the property owner could be required
to remove the batch structure prior to the six years if there is a fire or
storm that damage the batch structure. Building Inspector, Scott Johnson,
explained if the structure becomes unsafe it would be required to be
removed at that time.
B. Possible recommendation to the Village Board
Motion by Trustee Seager, second by Commissioner Arendt to recommend
to the Village Board approval of the conditional use as drafted. Motion
Carried.
7. Site plan for preexisting business (boat storage and repair, landscaping
materials and related uses in Highway Business zoning district) located at 1948
Byrnes Street; Complete Pier & Lifts (Ryan Niegelsen); (application 2015-34)
Zoning Administrator Schwecke reviewed the proposed site plans included with
his staff report dated February 3, 2016. He stated by going from four to three
buildings there is more of a separation between the buildings, which is good for
emergency access. He pointed out building six indicates it is over a water service
line. When constructed, they will be required to relocate the private water
service line. The current site plan approval is for the first building. When Mr.
Niegelsen is ready to construct buildings six and seven the Plan Commission will
be looking at site plans at that time. The water line issue can be further
addressed at that time. Building Inspector, Scott Johnson, clarified the water
line is a private line and they cannot construct a building over a water line.
Zoning Administrator Schwecke listed and explained the nine conditions of
approval for the site plan in his staff report dated February 3, 2016.
President Timms asked Zoning Administrator Schwecke for clarification regarding
the maintenance of required landscaping. He inquired if the required elements
of the landscaping plan later die what recourse the Village has, if any. Zoning
Administrator Schwecke stated the landscaping section of the code does require
that it be maintained.
Commissioner Nelson questioned how the required landscaping points are
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determined for a site. Zoning Administrator Schwecke explained there are a
certain number of points per 1,000 square feet of building footprint as well as
points per lineal foot. He confirmed he will get the applicant more information
regarding what would constitute landscaping to meet the required point
calculation.
Motion by Trustee Seager, second by President Timms to approve the site plan
subject to the nine items pertaining to site plan approval listed in the staff report
dated February 3, 2016. Motion carried.
8. Potential amendment of zoning code with regard to truck-trailer rental
operations (e.g., U-haul) and towing operations and other matters
A. Possible decision to schedule a public hearing
Zoning Administrator Schwecke clarified the proposed ordinance would
allow a towing operation as an accessory use to vehicle sales in a highway
business district. If towing is the only operation for a business it would not
be allowed in highway business, but is permissible in light and general
industrial. Commissioner Grudnowski questioned if the ordinance is
approved could it allow an existing vehicle sales business to add towing.
Zoning Administrator Schwecke stated they could if they are granted a
conditional use. General discussion occurred regarding vehicle sales being
a permitted use in the code currently versus a conditional use.
Motion by Trustee Seager, second by Commissioner Mack to direct the
Zoning Administrator Schwecke to schedule a date for public hearing to
consider the proposed ordinance as drafted.
President Timms questioned if item three in section two could be clarified.
He stated the intent of the 10 trucks and trailers limit did not seem clear
as to whether it allowed 10 trucks and 10 trailers or a maximum of 10
regardless of the combination of trucks and trailers. After discussion the
consensus of the Commission was to change this limit to 15 total units,
regardless of the combination of trucks and trailers. President Timms
questioned item 4 in section 2, limiting trucks and trailers to no more than
two axels. Zoning Administrator Schwecke explained the intent was to
ensure they would be consumer-grade truck rentals and would work to
clarify this item in the ordinance. President Timms questioned in section
12, who would be responsible for making the determination that a
building or property is considered dilapidated. Discussion occurred
regarding a dilapidated unsafe building versus the aesthetics of a building
in need of painting. It was questioned how this type of concern could be
addressed. Zoning Administrator Schwecke stated he would work with the
Building Inspector to revise this section and address concerns prior to the
public hearing.
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Motion by President Timms, second by Trustee Seager to amend the
motion to state that section 2, item 3 be limited to no more than 15 total
units, and for the Zoning Administrator and Building Inspector to find
suitable language for section 12, item Q a. Motion carried.
Vote on original motion – Motion carried.
9. Potential amendment of zoning code with regard to sign regulations
A. Possible decision to schedule a public hearing
Zoning Administrator Schwecke reviewed the draft ordinance dated
February 3, 2016. He pointed out the differences from the first draft were
highlighted in the current draft. He also discussed on page 4 he struck the
definition of nit, page 5 the definition of windows signs was modified
slightly and page 6 he added detail to the section dealing with electronic
message displays.
General discussion occurred regarding measurements of nits versus
footcandles. Meters to measure footcandles are more common and less
costly. Zoning Administrator Schwecke distributed “Electronic Message
Display Brightness Recommendations” from the International Sign
Association. He used this standard in the proposed ordinance, allowing a
sign to project a certain number of footcandles above ambient light. He
did clarify, in 510-131(B)(6) the reference to the number of footcandles at
the property line would be right at the window for a business on the
square since the property line is their building front. The Commission
discussed concerns with the ability to enforce the brightness and business
owner’s cooperation to turn off a sign when measuring ambient light
without the sign. The Commission agreed to leave footcandles in the
ordinance and address the topic later if it becomes an issue.
Zoning Administrator Schwecke pointed out he did add 510-134(B)(7)
allowing an electronic message display not to exceed 5 square feet as a
window sign. The last item that needs to be addressed is the maximum
square footage that will be allowed for commercial properties. The
residential limit has been set at 14 square feet. Zoning Administrator
Schwecke will return to the Commission with a proposal for this.
A brief discussion occurred regarding the prohibition of inflatable signs.
The consensus was to leave them prohibited in the ordinance.
10. Update on consideration of official map as recommended by the Plan
Commission
The public hearing on the official map is scheduled for the next Village Board
meeting, February 15, 2016.
11. Demonstration of eCode360 and zoning website (time permitting)
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Zoning Administrator Schwecke performed a brief demonstration for Plan
Commission members showing them how to access the zoning code
electronically and how to use the Village of East Troy Zoning Code Portal.
12. Recommendations for future agendas
No recommendations were made.
13. Adjourn
Motion by Trustee Seager, second by Commissioner Arendt to adjourn at 8:06
p.m. Motion carried.
Respectfully Submitted,
Eileen Suhm
Administrator
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