Historic Preservation Commission Meeting
Regular MeetingEscondido, CA · October 7, 2014
Minutes
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CITY OF ESCONDIDO
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
ESCONDIDO HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
October 7, 2014
The meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission was called to order at 3:07
p.m. by Vice-chair Rea, in the City Council Chambers, 201 North Broadway,
Escondido, California.
Commissioners present: Vice-chair Rea, Commissioner Danskin, Commissioner
O'Boyle, and Commissioner Spann.
Commissioners absent: Commissioner Breitenfeld, and Commissioner Lee.
Staff present: Rozanne Cherry, Principal Planner; Paul Bingham, Assistant
Planner II; and Eva Heter, Assistant City Clerk.
Vice-chair Rea welcomed new Commissioner Greg Danskin who provided
information about himself to the Commission.
MINUTES:
Moved by Commissioner Spann, seconded by Vice-chair Rea, to approve the
minutes of the August 5, 2014 meeting. Motion carried. Ayes: Rea, Spann, and
O'Boyle. Noes: None. Abstained: Danskin. (3-0-1)
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: None.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
Commissioner O'Boyle noted that the adobe home tour was well received. She also
noted that she would be pursuing establishing an adobe district.
PUBLIC HEARINGS: None.
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CURRENT BUSINESS:
1. MILLS ACT — CASE NO. HP 14-0003:
REQUEST: Mills Act Contract for Local Register property in the OEN
Location: 309 East 5 th Avenue
Paul Bingham, Assistant Planner II, referenced the staff report and noted staff
recommended the Commission forward a recommendation of approval for the
Mills Act contract and consideration of the proposed CEQA exemption.
Commissioner Danskin applauded the applicant's research on the subject
property. The commission concurred.
ACTION:
Moved by Commissioner O'Boyle, seconded by Commissioner Spann, to approve
staffs recommendation. Motion carried unanimously.
2. DESIGN REVIEW — CASE NO. ADM 14-0143:
REQUEST: Approval of an open lattice patio cover and arbor built in the rear
yard without permits behind a Local Register house in the OEN.
LOCATION: 243 East 5 th Avenue.
Paul Bingham, Assistant Planner II, provided the background history on the
subject property and noted that the applicant had a code enforcement case
regarding the open lattice patio cover and arbor, which was what the
Commission was tasked to review. He then provided illustrations of the
structures, noting that both structures would need to go through the City's
Building Department to be approved. He stated that since 1998 the subject
property has had a Mills Act contract which specifies replacement of the existing
non-historic aluminum windows with period-appropriate wood-framed windows.
These changes have still not been complete. He recommended that the applicant
be required to submit product information on the wood windows to be used along
with a replacement schedule prior to Building permit issuance.
Commissioner O'Boyle felt that the windows should be replaced with period
appropriate craftsman style windows. She asked if the backyard pavers were
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visible from the street. Mr. Bingham replied in the negative. Commissioner
O'Boyle stated that she was not concerned about the pavers or structures.
Commissioner Spann stated that he was not concerned about the pavers, but felt
the Corinthian pillars were inappropriate as well as feeling that the property
owner should have obtained a building permit. He also concurred with staff's
recommendation regarding replacing the windows with period appropriate
windows per the Improvement List in the Mills Act contract.
Commissioner Danskin and Mr. Bingham discussed the protocol for Mills Act
properties.
Commissioner Danskin stated that he did not have a problem with the pavers or
subject structures in relation to the Mills Act.
Vice-chair Rea questioned why the smaller arbor was under scrutiny.
Mr. Bingham noted that this was due to being located in the OEN and being a
Mills Act/Local Register property.
Vice-chair Rea expressed her concern with the added window shutters, fence,
and large gates in front of the residence being out of character with the style of
the residence. Commissioner Spann and Vice-chair Rea expressed their concern
with being able to adequately see the front of the structure from the street, noting
that these additions had been made without first obtaining a Certificate of
Appropriateness.
Commissioner Danskin and Mr. Bingham discussed the protocol for removing a
property from the Mills Act.
Discussion ensued regarding contacting the property owner to schedule a Mills
Act visit.
ACTION (1):
Moved by Vice-chair Rea, seconded by Commissioner Spann, to approve the
existing design of the two backyard structures, and that the structural aspect of the
design be addressed separately, and presented at the upcoming meeting. Motion
carried unanimously.
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ACTION (2):
Moved by Vice-chair Rea, seconded by Commissioner Spann, to schedule an
inspection with the property owners for Mills Act review. Motion carried
unanimously.
3. DESIGN REVIEW — Case No. HP 14-0004:
REQUEST: Approval of proposed additions to a Local Register Property in the
OEN.
LOCATION: 538 East 9 th Avenue
Paul Bingham, Assistant Planner II, provided background history for the property
and noted that the Commission recently reviewed and approved its request for a
Mills Act contract. Staff recommended approval of the proposed additions off the
back of the house and rear alley, which included a master bedroom and bath, a
detached garage, converting the existing garage to a workshop/storage area,
and converting the existing "Granny Flat" unit into a sewing room. He showed
photos of the unit's kitchen already having been removed and stated that the
applicants were willing to record a Deed Restriction that it no longer be a second
unit.
Commissioner O'Boyle asked if the proposed addition met the Secretary of
Interior Standards. Mr. Bingham felt it would be more period-appropriate than the
addition it was replacing and noted that the new addition would be taken out of
the Mills Act calculations.
Commissioner Spann suggested not giving up the granny flat, noting that it was
worth more as a granny flat. Vice-chair Rea concurred.
Keith Moore, Applicant, noted that he would prefer to retain the granny flat, if it
would not impact the subject request. Mr. Bingham noted that it would not impact
the subject request. Mr. Moore also stated that his preference would be to retain
the alley workshop along with adding the garage so his vehicles could be off the
street and parked inside. He noted that the proposed alley garage would match
the existing structure, the blank wall of the garage on the property line would be
enhanced and that the garage door would be a period-appropriate design.
Commissioner Danskin was in favor of the proposed design, feeling it blended
well. He also felt the granny flat should not be deed restricted. He asked that the
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garage be in line with the rest of the structure. Mr. Moore concurred and noted
that the garage doors were only visible from the yard.
ACTION:
Moved by Commissioner O'Boyle, seconded by Vice-chair Rea, to approve staffs
recommendation. Motion carried unanimously.
4. DESIGN REVIEW — CASE NO. ADM 14-0165:
REQUEST: Approval of adding proposed double garage with storage at the rear
of a Local Register property.
LOCATION: 221 West 15 th Avenue
Paul Bingham, Assistant Planner II, noted that there were two units on the
property, that the original house was on the Local Register and that the previous
garage had been converted to a unit. He indicated that the request was to
construct a double garage with some additional storage and a driveway. Staff
recommended approval with a suggestion to the property owner that the garage
contain two garage doors.
Commissioner O'Boyle moved to approve staff's recommendation with two
garage doors.
Commissioner Danskin noted that DensGlass Gold siding could be used in order
to meet the fire rating. He then asked what the width of the garage was. Mr.
Bingham noted that the garage was approximately 26-feet wide. Commissioner
Danskin concurred with recommending two garage doors for the garage.
ACTION:
Moved by Commissioner O'Boyle, seconded by Commissioner Spann, to approve
the project with the recommendation to include two garage doors. Motion carried
unanimously.
5. UPDATE ON VETERANS VILLAGE — CASE NO. PHG 14-0020:
Proposal to demolish some adobe structures on the Wier Brothers site and
incorporate others into a 64-unit affordable apartment complex to be developed
by Vietnam Veterans of San Diego located at 1556 South Escondido Bouelvard.
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Rozanne Cherry, Principal Planner, provided the update and noted that no
revised plans had been turned in from the applicant.
Vice-chair Rea asked if a Section 106 review had been prepared. Mrs. Cherry
stated that the City was not required to do a Section 106 review, noting this was
up to the applicant.
Vice-chair Rea felt Sacramento should be alerted regarding whether the Section
106 review was being done.
Commissioner O'Boyle stated that any project that had used Federal funds had
to go through the Section 106 review, noting her view that someone needed to
ensure this was occurring. Mrs. Cherry noted that the City was following through
regarding the CEQA process.
Vice-chair Rea stated that the Commission had the responsibility to inquire
whether the Section 106 process was being followed.
Commissioner Spann felt anything should be done to stop any demolition of the
significant structures on the site.
Vice-chair Rea felt all of the structures needed to be studied before any action
was taken.
6. UPDATE ON GRAPE DAY PARK CONCEPT MASTER PLAN —
PHG 13-0029
Rozanne Cherry, Principal Planner, provided the update and requested input.
Vice-chair Rea noted that she was disappointed that the subject plan did not
incorporate the Escondido Creek plan. Mrs. Cherry noted that her understanding
was that language would be included about creek enhancements in the future.
7. MILLS ACT WORK GROUP — REPORT/DISCUSSION
Vice-chair Rea noted that the group would be working on the notification letters,
tightening up the response time frame, updating the inspection sheet, and create
a FAQ sheet.
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8. HISTORIC DISTRICT RELATED FEES AND INCENTIVES WORK
GROUP — REPORT/DISCUSSION
Vice-chair Rea noted that OEN was pursuing neighbors writing letters to City
Council regarding Historic District fees and incentives.
Mrs. Cherry noted that City Council would be hearing this item November 19 th.
She also stated that City Council funded $100,000 toward the façade and
property improvement program, with two projects being in the pipeline.
Vice-chair Rea noted that historic related fees continued to be a disincentive to
homeowners.
Discussion ensued regarding a clarification of the design review fee and
reimbursement program.
Commissioner Danskin spoke in favor of eliminating the "once every five years"
restriction on granting the maximum amount of incentives to a property or
property owner.
Commissioner Spann noted that Mills Act property owners received tax
incentives.
Commissioner O'Boyle felt both the homeowner and the City benefited from Mills
Act properties. She also spoke in favor of changing the "once every five years"
restriction on granting the maximum amount of incentives to a property or
property owner.
9. PROMOTION OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION/ARTICLE WRITING
GROUP — REPORT/DISCUSSION
Vice-chair Rea suggested publicizing the winners of the historic awards in the
spring.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
Keith Moore, Escondido, spoke in opposition to having to pay for a certificate of
appropriateness each time he needed to perform any work on his home.
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COMMISSIONER COMMENTS:
Commissioner O'Boyle noted that some grant guidelines were to be provided in
the fall, which she volunteered to work on. Mr. Bingham noted that staff would
forward any grant information on to Commissioner O'Boyle.
Commissioner O'Boyle asked Mr. Bingham if the work group could meet with
staff to discuss possible Weir Adobe districts. Mr. Bingham replied in the
affirmative, noting that Article 40 had information regarding how to establish a
district.
Mrs. Cherry noted that the final Grape Day Concept Plan would come before the
Commission.
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 5:14 pm. The next regular meeting was scheduled
for December 2, 2014, at 3:00 p.m.
Ty FC- ulson, Minutes Clerk
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