Historic Preservation Commission Meeting
Regular MeetingEscondido, CA · February 3, 2015
Minutes
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CITY OF ESCONDIDO
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
ESCONDIDO HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
February 3, 2015
The meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission was called to order at
3:05 p.m. by Vice-chair Rea, in the City Council Chambers, 201 North Broadway,
Escondido, California.
Commissioners present: Commissioner Taylor, Commissioner O'Boyle,
Commissioner Spann, Vice-chair Rea, Commissioner Lee, Commissioner
Brietenfeld, and Commissioner Danskin.
Commissioners absent: None.
Staff present: Rozanne Cherry, Principal Planner; Paul Bingham, Assistant
Planner II; and Ty Paulson, Minutes Clerk.
MINUTES:
Moved by Commissioner Spann, seconded by Commissioner Brietenfeld, to
approve the minutes of the December 2, 2014 meeting. Motion carried
unanimously.
ELECTION OF CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR
Commissioner Spann was nominated for Chair by Commissioner Danskin.
Vice-chair Rea was nominated for Chair by Commissioner O'Boyle.
Vote Results: Vice-Chair Rea was elected to Chair with a 4-3 vote. Ayes: Spann,
Taylor, O'Boyle, and Brietenfeld.
Commissioner Spann was nominated and elected to Vice-chair with a unanimous
vote.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: Received. Commissioners Danskin, Lee,
Breitenfeld and Rea all expressed interest in the March webinar by the CA
Preservation Foundation.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None.
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CURRENT BUSINESS:
1. DESIGN REVIEW: Renovations at Property in OEN — Case No.
ADM 15-0010
Request: Approval of 432 SF room and 35 SF patio additions at the rear of an
existing 1950's residence.
Location: 150 East 9 th Avenue
Rozanne Cherry, Principal Planner, provided the report and noted that the subject
property was not on the Local Register or any historic survey. She indicated that
this item was before the Commission due to the property being located in the OEN.
She provided an overview of the property and noted that the request was to add
two bedrooms, a bath, and a patio to the existing residence. She then provided an
overview of the proposed materials and noted staff had no issues with the
request and recommended approval as proposed.
Chair Rea noted that the area where the addition was occurring was not visible
from the street.
ACTION:
Moved by Vice-chair Spann, seconded by Commissioner Danskin, to approve
staffs recommendation. Motion carried unanimously.
2. DESIGN REVIEW: Additional work for previously reviewed OEN 1890
Italianate Brick Cottage — Case No. ADM 14-0199:
REQUEST: Approval to remove middle windows and basement windows and
replace door in historic rear addition.
Location: 637 South Juniper Street
Chair Rea and Commissioner Taylor recused themselves from this item.
Paul Bingham, Assistant Planner II, provided the background history for this item.
He stated that the building department had issued a stop work order on the work
being performed at the subject property. He indicated that the issues needing
discussion were the appropriateness of removing windows on the north, south
and west side of the addition for the purpose of providing structural integrity, and
the appropriateness of installing a double French door on the south side of the
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addition. Mr. Bingham then provided illustrations of the proposed work and
materials for the project. Staff recommended approval as proposed.
Commissioner Danskin asked if the proposed work could be seen from the
street. Mr. Bingham replied in the affirmative.
Concerning the upper story, Commissioner Danskin asked Mr. Conte what he
would prefer be installed with regard to the windows currently needing structural
integrity. Mr. Conte indicated that he was not replacing the windows, but will use
the existing historic wood windows. While working, he discovered that there
were no structural members between any of the three triple window groupings.
He indicated that the engineer recommended removing the entire group of
windows on the west elevation and the middle window in the north and south
elevations, and adding framing to provide structural integrity. He also stated that
he was in the process of resolving some foundation and roof framing issues.
Commissioner Danskin asked Mr. Conte if he had considered removing the
stacked 2x4s. Mr. Conte replied in the affirmative and noted they would be
installing a 4x6 header.
Commissioner Danskin asked Mr. Conte if he planned on restoring the south
deck. Mr. Conte replied in the affirmative.
Mr. Conte also referenced the photos of the cracked block and said he was
filling-in some of the basement window openings to provide stability.
Commissioner Danskin noted that a steel frame would provide support and still
accommodate windows. Mr. Conte noted that the basement windows at the west
end proposed for removal were in a crawl space and not needed for light.
Commissioner Spann concurred with staff's recommendation.
ACTION:
Moved by Commissioner Danskin, seconded by Commissioner Brietenfeld, to
approve staffs recommendation. Motion carried. Ayes: O'Boyle, Spann, Brietenfeld,
Lee, and Danskin. Noes: None. Abstained: Rea and Taylor. (5-0-2)
3. REVIEW OF 2012-2013 AND 2013-2014 CLG ANNUAL REPORTS
REQUEST: Approval of both reports.
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Paul Bingham, Assistant Planner II, referenced the CLG Annual Reports and
requested approval of the 2012-2013 and 2013-2014 reports.
Chairman Rea and staff discussed Page 3 for the 2013-2014 report and when
the HPC would review a Section 106 report for a NEPA environmental document.
Chairman Rea asked that the Commission be informed of any Section 106
analyses for historic structures.
Commissioner Danskin asked if the City had policies for the protection of historic
elements in the public right-of-way and the repair of sidewalks in the historic
district. Mrs. Cherry noted that the Commission had reviewed and provided input
regarding the standards for maintaining and replacing historic elements in the
public right-of-ways, which were incorporated into the City's Engineering
Standards.
Chairman Rea referenced Section VII.B and noted that City Council rescinded
application fees in November 2014 after the reporting period, and should be
deleted.
ACTION:
Moved by Commissioner Spann, seconded by Commissioner Lee, to approve both
reports with the correction noted by Chair Rea. Motion carried. Ayes: Rea, Lee,
Spann, and Brietenfeld. Noes: None. Abstained: Danskin, Taylor, and O'Boyle.
(4-0-3)
4. AD HOC MILLS ACT WORK GROUP REPORT AND REVIEW OF
DRAFT BROCHURE:
Chair Rea referenced the checklist, brochure, and the two Mills Act letters from
the work group and asked if the commissioners could use the checklist as a tool
during visits. Mrs. Cherry replied in the affirmative.
Chair Rea questioned how often visits should occur for Mills Act properties.
Mr. Bingham noted he would look into this and report back to the Commission.
Chairman Rea suggested that the brochure be mailed to all Mills Act
homeowners so they would not be surprised when they receive a visit letter.
Commissioner Brietenfeld expressed concern with Mills Act letters possibly being
sent to renters versus the actual homeowner of the property. Mr. Bingham noted
that the Code Enforcement Department would be able to find out who the actual
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property belonged to and staff would provide the current owners mailing address
with the contract's approved list of improvements.
Chair Rea suggested that a post card could be included with the letter requesting
a visit that could be used to notify the HPC and staff that they "no longer own the
property".
The Commission discussed revisions and inclusions to the brochure.
Chairman Rea asked if the commission was in favor of having the Commission's
title at the top of each page. The commission concurred.
Commissioner O'Boyle felt a copy of the Mills Act Contract should accompany
the letter. Commissioner Danskin suggested adding language that if they were
unaware of the contract to contact City staff.
Commissioner Taylor felt the brochure would greatly benefit new Mills Act
homeowners, noting he was not provided this from his real estate agent when he
purchased his residence.
Commissioner Spann felt the Secretary of Interior's office was the proper agency
to educate the Real Estate Board on the need for real estate agents to be aware
of the conditions for Mills Act properties.
Discussion ensued regarding modifying the brochure for real estate agents.
The consensus was for Chair Rea to revise the drafts and provide it to staff and
the City Attorney's Office for input.
7. DISCUSSION OF DRIVEWAY POLICIES IN OEN (Taken out of Order)
Rozanne Cherry, Principal Planner, noted that this item came about as a result of
staff's recommendation to remove the driveways at the front of the Eller's
property at 519 East 9 th Avenue in the OEN upon the construction of their
proposed garage off the alley at the rear. She noted that the City's code required
the removal of the driveway for garage conversions when parking could be
provided to an approved parking area somewhere else on site.
Chair Rea felt removal of a driveway should be up to the homeowner, noting
there were many situations in the OEN where driveways had been in existence
for many years. She noted that leaving the driveway to the original garage would
preserve the initial architectural design, particularly for mid-century homes. Mrs.
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Cherry noted that removal of the driveway was only required with garage
conversions. Chair Rea asked for a copy of the code for garage conversions.
Commissioner Danskin asked what the purpose of removing the driveway was
for conversions. Mr. Bingham explained that once a garage was turned into living
space, there was no longer a need for a curb cut or driveway approach. With the
city dealing with many illegal units and yard parking, the code attempts to curtail
opportunities for those abuses, especially in cases where replacement parking is
being created off an alley.
Mrs. Cherry noted that the City did not always require that the entire driveway be
removed. She stated that the thought behind this policy was to prohibit
individuals from parking on their front yard or expanding the parking in the front
yard. She also stated that driveways would be allowed to remain for approved
second dwelling units.
Commissioner Danskin felt removing the driveway apron would help prohibit front
yard parking.
Commissioner Taylor felt forcing someone to remove components of their
property was inappropriate. Mrs. Cherry noted that each request was taken on a
case-by-case basis.
Chair Rea asked that the historic element be taken into consideration on each
request.
Vice-chairman Spann concurred with staff's recommendation.
Commissioner Taylor asked if the intent was to preclude the driveway as a
parking area. Mr. Bingham noted that the code had specific language for
removing the driveway. Mrs. Cherry noted that the entire driveway did not have
to be removed if it could be repurposed.
Vice-chair Spann left the meeting at this time.
Chair Rea suggested the City install curbs if it was concerned with individuals
parking in their yards. She also suggested using citations as a deterrent for yard
parking.
5. AD HOC AWARDS WORK GROUP — REPORT/DISCUSSION OF
AWARDS AND NOMINATIONS: Requested by Vice-chair Rea
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Commissioner O'Boyle noted that they had identified several adobe structures
but did not know if they were in the City. She then asked Ms. Barker if she was
aware of a Weir brother's property within the City limits.
Wendy Barker, Escondido, stated she was aware of Weir brothers properties
but was unaware of whether they were in the City's boundaries. Chair Rea noted
that more investigation was needed to find a Weir brothers adobe house in
Escondido. She then suggested awarding a merit award to the Wiers' daughters
who lived in Escondido and an Adaptive Reuse Award for Hacienda de Vega.
Ms. Barker noted that the last survey identified some adobe properties.
The consensus of the Commission was to recognize residential and commercial
adobe structures.
Discussion ensued regarding having a general presentation on significant adobe
properties. Additional discussion ensued regarding recognizing properties
outside the City's boundaries.
Commissioner O'Boyle suggested providing awards to the Masonic Lodge and
Alhiser-Comer Mortuary. She also felt strongly regarding providing an award to
the Sikes adobe.
Commissioner Danskin questioned whether it would be appropriate to give an
award to the San Dieguito River Park for their work on the Sikes adobe since it
was outside the City. Mrs. Cherry noted she would look into this.
Commissioner O'Boyle motioned to recognize one to three adobe commercial
properties, one Weir brothers' property within the City limits, the Sikes adobe and
the Donee Diego Drive property. Motion died due to lack of a second.
ACTION:
Moved by Chair Rea, seconded by Commissioner Lee, to present three awards in
the categories of commercial adobe (Hacienda de Vega), residential adobe (TBD),
and to acknowledge the Weir brothers. The motion also included providing a brief
presentation on adobes. Motion carried. Ayes: Lee, Danskin, Rea, and Brietenfeld.
Noes: O'Boyle. Abstained: Taylor.
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6. PROPOSED WORK GROUP TO STUDY HISTORIC ADOBE DISTRICT
FEASIBILITY:
Wendy Barker, Escondido, noted that some of the work for identifying adobe
districts had been started in the 2001 historic resource survey, but that the city
would not move forward with a district unless the homeowners requested that a
district be established.
Commissioner O'Boyle noted that Modern San Diego had identified Weir brother
properties.
Mrs. Cherry confirmed that no actions had been taken to establish an adobe
district.
Chair Rea asked Commissioner O'Boyle if she was interested in adobes or Weir
brother properties. Commissioner O'Boyle stated that she was interested in Weir
brother properties.
Mrs. Cherry suggested combining the 2001 resource list and the list from Modern
San Diego to see which properties fell within the City's boundaries.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
Mr. Bingham noted that the California Preservation Conference would be held in
San Diego this year.
Wendy Barker noted that the City Council would be reviewing the proposed
Grape Day Park Master Plan on February 4 th.
Chair Rea noted that the Old Escondido Neighborhood would be holding a
rummage sale.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS: No comments.
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 4:56 pm. The next regular meeting was
scheduled for April 7, 2014, at 3:00 p.m.
Rozadri Cherry, Principal Fnner Ty Pà.Ilson, Minutes Clerk
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