Historic Preservation Commission Meeting
Regular MeetingEscondido, CA · April 7, 2015
Minutes
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CITY OF ESCONDIDO
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
ESCONDIDO HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
April 7, 2015
The meeting of the Historic Preservation Commission was called to order at
3:05 p.m. by Chair Rea, in the City Council Chambers, 201 North Broadway,
Escondido, California.
Commissioners present: Chair Rea, Commissioner Taylor, Commissioner Lee,
and Commissioner Danskin, (One position vacant).
Commissioners absent: Vice-chair Spann, and Commissioner Brietenfeld.
Staff present: Rozanne Cherry, Principal Planner; Paul Bingham, Assistant
Planner; Jay Petrek, Associate Planner; and Ty Paulson, Minutes Clerk.
MINUTES:
Moved by Commissioner Danskin, seconded by Commissioner Taylor, to approve
the minutes of the February 3, 2015 meeting. Motion carried unanimously.
(Commissioner Spann was absent from the vote)
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS: Received.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None.
PUBLIC HEARINGS: None.
CURRENT BUSINESS:
1. DESIGN REVIEW: Revised plans for Veteran's Village "New Resolve"
Low-Income Housing Proiect — Case No. PHG 14-0020: Previous HPC
review 8-5-14:
REQUEST: Revised proposal to remove certain historic resources as a
component of the planned development project and proposed mitigation
measures.
LOCATION: 1556 S. Escondido Blvd.
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Jay Paul, Associate Planner, referenced the staff report and noted staff
recommended approval of the proposed demolition plan to the City Council along
with recommended mitigation measures.
Commissioner Danskin felt the proposed plan was a great solution to blend the two
types of architecture together. He then asked if any retrofitting needed to occur on
the adobe structures.
Kent Trimple, representing Veteran's Village, noted that the rooftop units had
been retrofitted approximately six years ago. He also stated additional work would
be occurring on the existing kitchens, flooring, electrical and paint.
Commissioner Danskin encouraged the applicant to locate the interpretive displays
in the front of the property where the public could see them. He suggested that the
""New Resolve" signage be located on the north side of the property. He then asked
if the areas with rooftop arbors would be useable for outdoor uses.
Greg McClure, Architect, replied in the affirmative.
Commissioner Danskin felt the proposed design preserved the street edge view.
He stated he was in favor of the proposed plans.
Commissioner Lee commended the applicant on the plans and the compromises
that work for everyone.
Commissioner Taylor was in favor of the project. He encouraged the applicant to
emphasize the connection on the sidewalk.
Chair Rea thanked the applicant for the redesign of the modern building. She then
asked if the color of the new buildings would be the bright white as outlined in the
illustrations. Mr. McClure replied in the affirmative, noting that they felt the color
created an aesthetic backdrop for the historic structures. Chair Rae suggested
toning the color down to a more tan color, although she noted that adobes were
sometimes white washed. She stated that she was very pleased that the building
was relocated away from the adobes. She noted that she was not in favor of
demolishing the garages or swimming pools, noting her view that they had historical
significance. She also stated that she was pleased with the amount of historical
research that was conducted for this project and suggested that the adobes be
listed on the local, State and national historic registers.
Commissioner Danskin stated that he was in favor of the proposed colors creating
a contrast between the old and new structures. He suggested that close attention
be paid to how pavement comes up to the buildings.
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Chair Rea suggested that interpretive signage or display panels and a permanent
plaque be installed at the site.
ACTION:
Moved by Commissioner Danskin, seconded by Commissioner Lee, to approve
staffs recommendation. The motion included requiring an historic display visible
from the public way. Motion carried unanimously. (Commissioner Spann was
absent from the vote)
2. DESIGN REVIEW: Modification to OEN Post-War-House — Case No.
ADM 15-0032:
REQUEST: Approval of modifications done without permits
LOCATION: 549 E. 8 th Avenue
Commissioner Spann entered the meeting at this time.
Paul Bingham, Assistant Planner, provided the background history for the subject
property and referenced the proposed exterior and interior modifications and
exhibits provided by the applicant. Mr. Bingham noted that the subject property
and surrounding properties were not on the local register nor included in any of
the City's previous historic surveys. Staff recommended that the Commission
discuss and take action on each item separately.
Part #1: Windows and Doors Discussion/Action
Mr. Bingham stated that most of the surrounding properties had vinyl windows
and referenced the map and photos of other neighboring properties provided by
the applicant. He stated that the applicant was proposing to install wood trim
around the window in the front that was visible from the street.
Commissioner Danskin asked if the reason for the HPC review was due to it
being located in the historic district. Mr. Bingham replied in the affirmative.
Commissioner Danskin asked if any of the other homes in the surrounding area
that had retrofitted their windows to vinyl had obtained a Certificate of
Appropriateness. Mr. Bingham noted that he was unaware of the circumstances
of the other homes.
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Commissioner Danskin asked if a Certificate of Appropriateness was obtained for
the color scheme for the subject property. Mr. Bingham replied in the affirmative.
Commissioner Spann expressed his concern with homeowners not obtaining the
proper permits. He also stated he had no problem with the subject property's
vinyl windows. Commissioner Taylor concurred.
Chair Rea noted that the subject structure was over 50 years old, which made it
a historic property. She asked what material was being proposed for the faux
wood trim for the front window. She expressed her view that shutters would be
inappropriate for said window. She felt the front door should be replaced with
something more period specific. She also stated that she was okay with the
windows and doors.
Commissioner Danskin concurred with Chair Rea's comments regarding concern
with faux wood trim and shutters being inappropriate for the front window.
Commissioner Taylor felt the historic character of the structure was lost with the
vinyl window replacement.
Chair Rea recommended replacing the street visible windows with metal
replacement windows.
Commissioner Spann noted that he had replaced aluminum windows at his home
with aluminum windows, noting they were very difficult to deal with. He felt the
subject vinyl windows and doors were appropriate in this instance.
Commissioner Lee expressed his concern with requiring the subject homeowner
to replace their windows when the other homes had already changed their
windows to vinyl.
MOTION:
Commissioner Spann moved to approve the existing vinyl windows and to
require the removal of the window shutters. Motion died due to lack of a second.
Commissioner Danskin noted that he looked at whether the proposed
modifications change the form of the structure. He stated that he was not
opposed to vinyl windows but was opposed to shutters. He also felt the front door
should be changed out.
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ACTION #1:
Moved by Commissioner Danskin, seconded by Commissioner Lee, to approve
Part 1 with the elimination of the shutters, acceptance of the vinyl windows and
rear doors, and that the applicant replace the front door with one more period
appropriate. Motion carried unanimously.
Part #2: Garage Conversion and Carport Discussion/Action
Mr. Bingham referenced the exhibits and the applicant's proposed request,
noting that the carport options as presented were not recommended. He stated
that if the garage conversion was to remain, a solution with single carports in the
front and/or off the alley might be approvable.
Chair Rea asked if the driveway would remain in place for the existing garage
door. Mr. Bingham noted that when a garage is converted, the Code requires the
driveway be removed. Rozanne Cherry clarified that so long as the driveway
access was replaced by curbing, the rest of the driveway might remain as patio
space.
Commissioner Danskin did not feel either of the driveway configurations would
work. He then suggested that the covered parking be directly in front of the
existing garage.
Commissioner Lee questioned how large the carport would be to accommodate
two vehicles in front of the garage. Mr. Bingham noted that the staff's Design
Review suggested a single carport in the front and a single carport in back.
Commissioner Spann asked if the property originally had a one-car garage.
Mr. Bingham replied in the affirmative.
Commissioner Spann felt a carport in front of the garage would be inappropriate;
feeling a double carport in the rear off of the alley would be more appropriate.
Commissioner Taylor felt the best solution would be to provide parking in the rear
of the property.
Chair Rea asked if the garage was converted without permits. Mr. Bingham
replied in the affirmative.
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Chair Rea stated that she liked the creativity of a "shallow" garage appearance in
front, feeling this should be considered in the future. She felt a carport in front of
the garage would be inappropriate, feeling the best solution would be to provide
a carport in the rear off of the alley or convert the original garage back to a
garage.
ACTION #2:
Moved by Commissioner Spann, seconded by Chair Rea, to deny the request to
install covered parking in the front and to approve covered parking in the rear of the
property if the applicant could obtain the necessary City approvals for the structure.
The motion included that if no parking solution was available at the rear, that the
garage be converted back to a garage. Motion carried unanimously.
Part #3: Grading and Retaining Walls Discussion/Action
Mr. Bingham noted that staff's Design Review had felt the applicant needed to
submit a grading plan, that the retaining wall be planted, and that other areas of
the site be landscaped. Staff referenced the revised exhibits provided by the
applicant and recommended approval of the current grading and retaining walls
with the condition that the walls be planted and that the proper grading and
retaining wall permits be obtained from the Engineering and Building
Departments.
Commissioner Spann expressed his view that the current retaining wall blocks
looked better than what was there before. He also felt the blocks should be
planted. Commissioners Lee and Danskin concurred.
Chair Rea expressed her view that a solid retaining wall would be more
appropriate for the front area of the property. She was opposed to allowing
plantable block retaining walls in the OEN.
Commissioner Danskin stated that it was his experience that this type of wall
disappears when planted, once the vegetation grows together.
ACTION #3:
Moved by Commissioner Spann, seconded by Commissioner Danskin, to approve
the existing block retaining walls for the front and rear yards with the condition
that the applicant obtain the proper City permits and the openings in the walls be
planted sufficiently to disappear. Motion carried unanimously.
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3. DESIGN REVIEW: Request to change original conditions — Case No.
ADM fS•0044:
REQUEST: Approval of a change to conditions regarding bathroom in addition in
the OEN.
LOCATION: 151 East 5 th Avenue.
Paul Bingham, Assistant Planner, provided exhibits and the background history
for the subject property and noted that the request was to approve a change to
conditions to allow a bathtub in the bathroom of the detached office/rec room.
Staff recommended approval.
Commissioner Spann stated that he had no issue with the subject bathroom but
was concerned with the previous owner doing projects in Escondido without
proper permits.
Commissioner Taylor expressed his concern with unpermitted work occurring
frequently but stated he did not have a problem with the subject bathroom as
long as it was done to code.
Commissioner Danskin was in favor of the applicant's request. Commissioner
Lee concurred.
Commissioner Rea was in favor of allowing the retention of the bathtub.
Jantz Hoffman, Applicant, stated that the bathtub existed when they purchased
the house.
ACTION:
Moved by Commissioner Spann, seconded by Commissioner Danskin, to approve
staffs recommendation. Motion carried unanimously.
4. AD HOC MILLS ACT WORK GROUP REPORT:
Recommendation: Approve revised documents.
Chair Rea noted she would email the documents out to the Commission for their
review and approval.
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5. AD HOC AWARDS WORK GROUP REPORT:
Recommendation: Approve final nominations.
Chair Rea provided a draft PowerPoint for the final nominations and requested
input. Mrs. Cherry noted that she had requested May 6 th or May 13 th to present
the awards at a City Council meeting. Mrs. Rea suggested pursuing May 6 th for
the presentation of awards.
6. AD HOC HISTORY DISTRICT WORK GROUP REPORT:
Recommendation: Approved revised document
Chair Rea noted nothing to report, requested this work group be discontinued
and that this item be taken off of the agenda.
7. DISCUSSION OF ESCONDIDO'S PREVIOUS HISTORIC SURVEY
EFFORTS:
Paul Bingham, Assistant Planner, referenced the previous Historic Survey efforts
and requested input.
Chair Rea suggested that the list of homes on the historic register be included on
the City's website and that the HPC should consider updating the historic survey
soon.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
Mrs. Cherry noted that the City Clerk had forwarded an application to the Mayor
for consideration in filling the vacant seat on the Commission.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS:
Chair Rea thanked Lucy Berk and Ashley Christiansen for attending the meeting.
Commissioner Danskin referenced the Design Guidelines booklet for Historic
Structures and asked if this could be provided to historic homeowners. Chair Rea
noted that the booklet was available online through the OEN website as well as
being available at City Hall. She stated that new homeowners in the OEN were
provided a welcome packet that included said information. She then suggested
updating the resource book as a future project.
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ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 5:03 p.m. The next regular meeting was
scheduled for June 2, 2015, at 3:00 p.m.
Rozaritie Cherry, Principal Planner son, Minutes Clerk
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