City Commission Regular Meeting
Regular MeetingEustis, FL · August 19, 2021
Minutes
APPROVED:9/23/2021
MINUTES
Regular City Commission Meeting
6:00 PM - Thursday, August 19, 2021 - Community Building
601 Northshore Drive, Eustis
INVOCATION: MOMENT OF SILENCE
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: COMMISSIONER HAWKINS
CALL TO ORDER: 6:41 P.M.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF QUORUM AND PROPER NOTICE
PRESENT: Commissioner Willie Hawkins, Vice Mayor Emily Lee, Commissioner Karen
LeHeup-Smith, Commissioner Nan Cobb and Mayor Michael Holland
1. AGENDA UPDATE: NONE
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2.1 June 28, 2021 - City Commission Workshop
August 5, 2021 - Regular City Commission Meeting
Moved by Vice Mayor Lee, seconded by Commissioner Hawkins, to approve the
Minutes as submitted. Motion carried by the following votes:
Ayes: Commissioner Hawkins, Vice Mayor Lee, Commissioner LeHeup-Smith,
Commissioner Cobb and Mayor Holland
3. APPOINTMENTS
3.1 Appointment to Deferred Compensation Plans Committee - Laurie Huebsch
Ron Neibert, City Manager, explained the purpose of the Deferred Compensation
Plans Committee.
Bill Howe, Human Resources Director, further explained the committee is made up
of three employees - the Finance Director, the Human Resources Director and
one regular employee. He introduced Laurie Huebsch as the proposed appointee.
Moved by Commissioner Cobb, seconded by Commissioner LeHeup-Smith, to
approve the appointment of Laurie Huebsch as a member of the Deferred
Compensation Plans Committee. Motion carried by the following votes:
Ayes: Commissioner Hawkins, Vice Mayor Lee, Commissioner LeHeup-Smith,
Commissioner Cobb and Mayor Holland
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4. AUDIENCE TO BE HEARD
4.1 Craig Capri, Police Chief, announced they are honoring Ann Nelson who just
retired from the City after 35 years. He commented on the difficulty of being a
police dispatcher and emphasized their value to the department and the amount of
stress they experience. He read a plaque which was presented to Ms. Nelson.
Ms. Nelson thanked everyone for their support and expressed appreciation for her
service with the City.
Pandora Jackson addressed the Commission regarding her organization, "Hope
with a Purpose Inc.". She provided a history of the organization and explained
their purpose noting they provide their services free of charge. She cited their
intent to re-open their youth program - Youth 30 - which was closed down due to
the pandemic. She expressed support for partnering with the City on some of their
programs.
Mayor Holland asked Commissioner Hawkins to continue working with Ms.
Jackson and for them to bring back a proposal to the Commission .
Gail Isaac-Thomas asked about the progress on the scoreboard with Mayor
Holland responding that there were stipulations set on the Junior Panther program
and there are funds in the budget for a scoreboard; however, there needs to be a
viable program before they spend the money on the scoreboard. He stated they
have not brought back anything to the City. He further explained that the
organization was not incorporated properly and they had no insurance which
would leave the City open to liability.
Tom Carrino, Economic Development Director, confirmed that the Corey Rolle
Field is outside the CRA so CRA funds could not be used for the scoreboard.
Gessner Harris thanked the Parks and Recreation Director Craig Dolan for getting
the Woman's Club for the Golden Seniors summer meetings. She also thanked
the Commissioners who have assisted with their meetings. She asked about the
budget for the Golden Seniors and expressed concern about the high sugar level
of the snacks provided.
Mayor Holland asked Chief Swanson to provide a Covid update.
Mike Swanson, Fire Chief, reported that the fifth variant is now out there but it is
not as contagious. He commented on the high level of the delta variant and noted
that other cities' EMS have been covering the City due to numerous personnel
being out sick. He cited locations for testing and encouraged everyone to stay
home if they are sick. He commented that the flu virus is also going around. He
stated that the latest date for the booster shot is September 20th. He stated the
Health Dept. is not currently giving those ; they have to be received from your
primary care physician.
5. CONSENT AGENDA
5.1 Resolution Number 21-59: Approval of Memorandum of Understanding with Lake
County Sheriff for hosting of Spillman C.A.D . software
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Moved by Vice Mayor Lee , seconded by Commissioner LeHeup-Smith , to approve
the Consent Agenda as submitted . Motion carried by the following votes:
Ayes: Commissioner Hawkins , Vice Mayor Lee, Commissioner LeHeup-Smith ,
Commissioner Cobb and Mayor Holland
6. ORDINANCES, PUBLIC HEARINGS & QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS
6.1 Resolution Number 21-61 : Pine Meadows Concept Plan
Derek Schroth , City Attorney, announced Resolution Number 21-61 : A Resolution
of the City Commission of the City of Eustis, Florida; approving a concept plan for
Pine Meadows, a proposed residential subdivision (single family detached and
attached townhouse lots) on approximately 239.8 acres of property located on the
north and south sides of Pine Meadows Golf Course Rd ., with frontage on CR 44.
Lori Barnes, Development Services Director, reviewed the proposed concept plan
for Pine Meadows as follows: 1) Appian Engineering on behalf of PMCCC LLC,
applicant/property owner; 2) Concept plan for a proposed mixed-product single-
family residential subdivision with approximately 578 units. She explained Section
102-18 of the Land Development Regulations provides for an optional review of a
conceptual plan by either the DRC or both the DRC and Commission . She stated
approval of the concept plan does not provide any entitlements. She explained
the site location for the development. She stated it currently has a Suburban
Residential future land use designation within a Rural Neighborhood design
district. She provided a map showing the location of the Wekiva Study Area and
confirmed that the site is not within the study area; however, portions of the site
are wetlands.
Ms. Barnes then reviewed the rural neighborhood design district, site design
standards and explained the site design process for rural design districts. She
stated the concept plan includes 43.43 acres of open space which includes 29.3
acres of park space including a bike trail, nature trails , and amenity center. She
stated that 46% of the project area will not be developed due to being either open
space or wetlands totaling 109.53 acres. She presented a rendering of the
proposed landscape plan and the landscape buffer for Fairway Drive. She then
stated the primary connection will be from CR 44. She noted that Pine Meadows
Golf Course Road bisects the property. She added that a bike trail will run from
CR 44 north through the development to just south of the Pine Meadows
Conservation Area. She stated the plan includes 578 single family attached and
detached lots with a net density of 3.32 dwelling units per acre. She presented a
map of the passive park to the northeast of the trail and a map showing the
locations of the wetlands and open space areas.
Ms. Barnes provided an overview of the proposed building lot types and cited the
proposed price points for the different products. She then reported on the
community meeting held by the developer with 18 residents in attendance. She
stated the primary concerns were traffic, Pine Meadows Golf Course Road
condition and drainage. She then stated the concept plan as shown is consistent
with the City's rural site design standards, the open space is consistent with the
City's requirements as well as the general location and layout of the stormwater
areas and park space exceeds the requ irements in the City's regulations . She
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reviewed the internal and external connectivity noting they have two points of
connection and the future plan may have an additional emergency access point on
the north.
Ms. Barnes indicated that the proposed density is less than the maximum that
would be allowed under the comprehensive plan. She then explained the use of a
planned unit overlay which provides for a diversity of land uses to create a
planned, sustainable community and provides an opportunity for flexibility and
innovation. She further explained that for a planned unit development master plan
the standards developed for the specific project are unique to the project and are
designed to provide for a unique community with a higher level of amenity than
would be seen under the standard regulations. She stated that, if they proceed
with development, they would go through the regular development review process
with more in-depth review to include a transportation master plan and impact
study. She indicated that three comments were received that afternoon which
primarily expressed concern regarding the effect on water quality.
Ms. Barnes then explained how the drainage issues and water quality issues
would be addressed . She stated that clustering the lots toward the center will
reduce the amount of runoff due to reduced impervious area. She indicated the
engineer for the project will insure that the development complies with all state and
local regulations. She stated staff's recommendation for approval and reiterated
that approval of the concept plan would not grant any entitlements to the project.
She introduced the following individuals representing the applicant: Tony Iorio and
Ben Schneider with Hanover Land Company, Heather lrweiler with LPG Urban
and Regional Planning and Major Stacey with Appian Engineering. She stated
they reserved the right to respond to any public input received .
The Commission discussed the concept plan with the following concerns: 1) The
large number of homes proposed ; 2) runoff; and 3) the density.
Ms. Barnes stated that the City has a fertilizer ordinance and the use of fertilizer is
restricted to help reduce the possibility of contamination from runoff. She
emphasized that the development will be designed to insure that no additional
runoff can occur beyond what is already occurring. She confirmed that the
proposed density is 3.3 units per acre; however, the land use designation allows
up to five units per acre. She added that the project has been designed
specifically to meet the City's rural design standards and provides 46% of the site
as combined open space and wetland which meets the intent of the City's
regulations.
The Commission questioned the phrase "generally consistent with City
regulations" with Ms. Barnes responding that means that the project is almost
entirely consistent with the land development regulations. She further explained
that through the PUD master plan, they can propose their own development
standards. She stated that where the plan has some departures is in the lot sizes.
She stated that some of the lot widths are lesser than the City's regulations while
some of the lot widths are larger. She added that as they move further into full
engineering their street type may have to differ from what is allowed in the code
and there may be some departures in the landscape buffering.
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The Commission asked about the density bonus with Ms. Barnes explaining that is
primarily used by low income tax credit developments and is not proposed for use
by this developer. She stated that with the 46% open space there would not be a
way for them to get the 5 units per acre much less a density bonus for more.
The Commission then asked what are the higher level of amenities with Ms.
Barnes responding that most City developments will only provide the minimum
required open space and the minimum required park space. She stated this
design does provide the higher level including the 29 plus acres of park space, the
passive park and trails, the pool and cabana, and the bike trail that connects to
Pine Meadows Golf Course Road. She indicated at the community meeting they
also spoke about Water Star programs.
The Commission asked if the topography, soil and environmental studies had
been completed yet with Ms. Barnes indicating she does not have them yet but
has been in contact with their professionals conducting the studies. The
Commission expressed concern about approving the concept plan without the
studies being completed.
Ms. Barnes indicated the studies are not required at this stage. She explained
that the purpose of the concept plan is strictly to say whether or not the proposed
project is conceptually acceptable. She explained how things might change
between the concept plan and development of the master plan. She reiterated
that the concept plan does not grant entitlements.
The Commission questioned the situation with the existing wells onsite with Ms.
Barnes responding that she was unsure if the wells could be used . She indicated
it was possible that wells might be used for irrigation until such time as re-use
water is available.
The Commission expressed concern regarding some vagueness in the resolution
and staff report with Mr. Schroth responding that, if they like the concept, they can
add some language to the resolution indicating that says the approval is
nonbinding or is approved conceptually.
The Commission questioned how the City addresses the area in the floodplain
with Ms. Barnes explaining that the Comprehensive Plan limits density in a
floodplain to less than two dwelling units per acre . She noted that the developer
has paid special attention to the floodplain areas to insure any development in the
floodplain does not exceed the maximum. She added that the Comprehensive
Plan also requires no more than 25% impervious surface area for those lots within
a flood zone. She stated that the developer has acknowledged in the submittal
documents that regulation and confirmed that, as long as that regulation applies
when they moved forward, those lots will not exceed the percentage provided for
in the Comprehensive Plan . She further stated that the City's model floodplain
ordinance will require minimum finished floor elevations and a minimum elevation
above the crown of the road. She explained that the floodplain requirements will
be reviewed whenever a building permit is pulled for one of those lots.
The Commission asked if it would be better to have the resolution brought back.
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Mr. Schroth indicated they need to open the public hearing first. He stated they
could then, if the majority directs, postpone and revise the resolution .
Ms. Barnes stated that the Land Development Regulations clearly state that the
concept plan approval does not grant any entitlements. She suggested they could
change the wording in the resolution for future concept plans.
Mr. Schroth opened the public hearing at 7:45 p.m.
Egor Emory asked the Commission to find the plan not in compliance. He
expressed concern regarding nutrients in runoff going into lakes.
Cindy Newton questioned whether or not City sewer will be available and, if not,
what would be the onsite septic.
Mr. Neibert responded that there is sewer available on CR 44 and the plan is to
run it to the development from 44.
Jeremy Brown asked how the fertilizer ordinance is enforced and whether or not
the "nutrients' includes chemicals such as Round up.
There being no further public comment, the hearing was closed at 7:53 p.m .
Ben Schneider, Hanover, introduced Major Stacey to respond to the stormwater
questions.
Mr. Stacey commented on the field studies. He indicated that whatever runoff
occurs will result in lower pollutants than what is currently occurring. He noted the
property was previously a golf course and had agricultural uses. He stated that
the discharge rate will be less than what is occurring now. He added that any
impacts on the flood plain will be addressed by the City's building official. He
confirmed there will be no homes in the flood plain.
The Commission asked if they would create the HOA documents with Mr.
Schneider responding affirmatively and stating they would run the HOA.
The Commission confirmed with Mr. Schroth that they can add "nonbinding" in the
motion rather than bringing it back.
The Commission further discussed the following: 1) The vague wording of the staff
report; 2) whether they were approving the specific number of houses or just the
concept; and 3) when the master plan is brought back, could the number of
houses have changed .
Ron Neibert, City Manager, explained that all of the specifics will be in the final
plan. He indicated they may have to adjust the number of lots based on what is
actually found in the studies.
Further discussion was held regarding what other items may not be in compliance
including lot widths, landscape buffers and street profiles.
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Mr. Schroth explained that the Commission would have full discretion to deny if
the master plan deviates from either the LDR's or the comprehensive plan.
Moved by Commissioner LeHeup-Smith, seconded by Mayor Holland, to approve
Resolution Number 21-61 with the addition of "nonbinding approval". Motion carried
by the following votes:
Ayes: Commissioner Hawkins, Vice Mayor Lee, Commissioner LeHeup-Smith,
Commissioner Cobb and Mayor Holland
6.2 Resolution Number 21-62: Approving a development and acquisition agreement
by and between Waterman Square LLC, the Downtown and East Town
Redevelopment Agency and the City of Eustis for the redevelopment of the former
Florida Hospital Waterman site
Mr. Schroth announced Resolution Number 21-62. He noted the CRA action
which would indicate the need to postpone the resolution to September 9th.
Moved by Commissioner LeHeup-Smith, seconded by Vice Mayor Lee, to continue
Resolution Number 21-62 to the September 9, 2021, Commission meeting . Motion
carried by the following votes:
Ayes: Commissioner Hawkins, Vice Mayor Lee, Commissioner LeHeup-Smith,
Commissioner Cobb and Mayor Holland
6.3 Resolution Number 21-63: Approving a parking facility easement agreement with
Waterman Square LLC to support the redevelopment of the former Florida
Hospital Waterman site
Mr. Schroth indicated the need to also continue Resolution Number 21-63.
Moved by Commissioner LeHeup-Smith, seconded by Vice Mayor Lee, to continue
Resolution Number 21-63 to September 9th. Motion carried by the following votes:
Ayes: Commissioner Hawkins, Vice Mayor Lee, Commissioner LeHeup-Smith,
Commissioner Cobb and Mayor Holland
6.4 Ordinance Number 21-23: Amendment to Chapter 118, Construction Standards, of
the Land Development Regulations
Mr. Schroth read Ordinance Number 21-23 by title on first reading: An Ordinance
of the City Commission of the City of Eustis, Florida, amending the Land
Development Regulations, Section 118 Construction Standards; providing for
codification, severability and an effective date.
Ms. Barnes explained the purpose of the ordinance was to update the code to the
current editions of the Florida and National building codes to be enforced. She
stated they also are amending the demolition portion of the code so it is more
easily applied. She explained that the current code separates the responsibilities
between the contractor and the property owner which created conflicts when trying
to close out a demolition permit. The amendment changes the code to match the
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Florida Building Code requirements and to allow a six-month stay for removal of all
improvements on a site if redevelopment was proposed. She stated staff's
recommendation for approval.
Mr. Schroth opened the public hearing at 8:10 p.m. There being no public
comment, the hearing was closed at 8:10 p.m.
Moved by Commissioner Cobb, seconded by Commissioner Hawkins, to approve
Ordinance Number 21-23 on first reading. Motion carried by the following votes:
Ayes: Commissioner Hawkins, Vice Mayor Lee, Commissioner LeHeup-Smith,
Commissioner Cobb and Mayor Holland
7. OTHER BUSINESS
7.1 Discussion regarding Post Office property
Commissioner Cobb explained that it was brought to her attention that the Post
Office property was up for sale. She added that the owner is Linda Owens, who is
present, and that she is the sister of her husband's late wife. She noted
information was distributed to the Commission several weeks prior regarding the
property.
The Commission discussed the existing lease on the property, amount of monthly
rent, repairs that may be needed on the property and who would be responsible
for those repairs.
Ms. Owens stated that the original lease from 1960 requires the landlord to only be
responsible for the exterior load bearing walls, the flashing and the roof and the
Post Office is responsible for any further repairs.
Discussion was held regarding whether or not they have any plans for expansion
with Ms. Owens indicating her reluctance to do any expansions and her reasons
for wanting to sell the property.
Ms. Owens commented on her experience with the post office as her tenant.
The Commission asked how firm the price is with Ms. Owens responding that the
price was just "off the top of her head" during the last lease negotiation. The
Commission confirmed that the property consisted of a full City block.
The Commission asked about the proposed combination of the Eustis and Mount
Dora post office with Ms. Owens stating she was told that would never happen.
They then asked about the possibility of the post office being relocated with Ms.
Owens responding that has never been discussed but she was under the
impression there was an agreement with the City that it could not be moved.
The Commission further commented on the need to see how that property would
coordinate with plans for the downtown.
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Mayor Holland confirmed what direction staff is looking for with Mr. Neibert
indicating he would need to look for the referred to agreement between the City
and the Post Office.
The Commission discussed whether or not to proceed with negotiations for the
property with four Commissioners indicating interest in researching with Ms.
Owens indicating she wants to sell the property by the end of the year.
Ms. Owens indicated she has two private investors interested; however, she
indicated she told them she would not negotiate with them until she determined
the City's interest.
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission for staff to proceed with
exploration of the possible purchase of the property.
7.2 Discussion: Potential Amendment to Established Policy regarding Annexation and
Outside Utility Agreements
Mr. Neibert explained that the City sent to Lake County a draft development
agreement along with the standard annexation agreement back in February. He
stated that the Commission has the discretion to waive the annexation agreement.
He stated staff has received an approved development agreement for utilities but
the County is requesting that the City waive the annexation requirement. He noted
that the City previously approved an interlocal agreement for the elementary
school for provision of utilities. He stated the Commission has previously indicated
its desire to continue to require an annexation agreement. He commented on the
possibility of unannexed properties blocking the ability of other properties from
being able to annex when they want to.
Commissioner Hawkins expressed concern regarding the County's request to
waive the annexation requirement.
Commissioner LeHeup-Smith asked if the City could add language that would
allow the City to still use the property to provide contiguity.
Mr. Neibert explained only park property can be used for contiguity. He noted they
have had the agreement since February and have proceeded with building the fire
station but waited until they were ready to connect to ask for the waiver. He
expressed concern about granting to a government entity something they would
not grant to a private entity.
Discussion was held regarding what the County will do if the Commission says
"no".
Discussion was held regarding whether or not the fire station would answer City
calls with Chief Swanson stating they do not regularly run calls for the City but
might if the City expands to the east. He indicated they respond more to Mount
Dora calls.
Discussion was further held regarding whether or not to grant the waiver.
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Mr. Neibert offered to put the agreement on the September 9th agenda to allow
the Commission more time to think about it. If the Commission decides to not
grant the waiver, the City will send back the agreement in the same form it was
originally sent to the County.
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission for the agreement to be
placed on the September 9th agenda for consideration.
8. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
8.1 Vice Mayor Lee commented on items from the budget minutes that she indicated
have not been done. She cited a request by the Mayor for the Commissioners to
be sent the cemetery fees with City Clerk Mary Montez indicating they were e-
mailed to the Commissioners the next day. She added she would provide hard
copies to everyone.
Vice Mayor Lee then commented on the intent to talk about the grants with Mr.
Neibert indicating he will place it on the next agenda as a discussion item. She
also asked about the See-Click-Fix software with Mr. Neibert indicating that is in
the next fiscal year's budget.
Vice Mayor Lee then asked about funding for the airport billboard with Mr. Neibert
indicating that will be cancelled as soon as the contract expires. She then cited
discussion regarding all bids being placed on the website.
Vice Mayor Lee asked about the $460,000 difference in the budget noted by
Commissioner Hawkins with Commissioner Hawkins stating the question was
answered and with Mr. Neibert indicating questions from the first meeting were
answered at the second budget workshop.
Vice Mayor Lee asked about Eleven Oaks stating that Public Works was supposed
to video their stormwater infrastructure to make sure it was repaired properly with
Mr. Neibert responding the lines were reviewed and were repaired to the City's
satisfaction. He added that he was going to report on that under his comments.
Commissioner Hawkins noted he saw an orange water fountain at the League of
Cities Conference stating he would like to see one like it in Ferran Park, not
necessarily orange. He explained that it had a spigot for filling water bottles and
one for providing water for pets.
Mr. Neibert responded that if the Commission wants to spend $3800 to add that
type of fountain to the park, they can make it happen .
Commissioner Hawkins asked about the Colonial Inn with Mr. Schroth indicating
that due to Covid 19 the courts are concentrating on criminal trials so it will
probably be 18 months before the foreclosure is finalized. He stated another
option is to file for an injunction but it is expensive.
Commissioner Hawkins stated he would like to see a presentation on how Tom
Carrino sells the City with Mr. Neibert confirming he wants to see the City's
marketing and brand ing materials.
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Commissioner Hawkins asked the Commission and staff if they want to help him in
the high school concession stand.
Vice Mayor Lee asked the City to consider adding some senior citizen exercise
equipment.
9. COMMENTS
9.1 City Commission
Commissioner LeHeup-Smith reported on her experience at the League of Cities
conference and noted the in-the-ground dumpster.
Commissioner Cobb reported on a Northshore Neighborhood Watch meeting she
attended. She commented on a suggestion for them to do a community clean-up.
She stated they will be holding a clean-up on September 18th and Kristina
Rosenburg will be posting information on the City's Facebook page.
Mr. Neibert indicated he would get that coordinated so the residents can put large
items out for pickup.
Vice Mayor Lee also commented her attendance at the conference.
9.2 City Manager
Mr. Neibert announced that the agreement for the rescue act funds will be on the
next agenda and the amount the City is receiving has increased. He stated that
they have reached a three-year agreement with the Police union and the union will
be voting on it. The hope is to have the agreement on the September 9th agenda.
He stated staff has also reached a tentative agreement with Bay State South
which should be on the September 23rd agenda for consideration.
9.3 City Attorney - None
9.4 Mayor
Mayor Holland commented on the League of Cities conference and expressed
concern regarding the State legislature's efforts to infringe on Home Rule. He
indicated the City also needs to make sure the County knows they will protect their
rights as well. He encouraged residents to write their legislators and County
commissioners. He reminded everyone about the workshop on August 26th.
Rick Gierok, Public Works Director, reported they should be back in the
Commission Room for the September 23rd meeting.
10. ADJOURNMENT: 8:56 P.M.
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MICHAEL L. HOLLAND
City Clerk Mayor/Commissioner
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