City Commission Workshop Meeting
Regular MeetingEustis, FL · July 14, 2021
Minutes
APPROVED 11/3/2022
MINUTES
City Commission Workshop
4:00 PM - Wednesday, July 14, 2021 - Community Building
CALL TO ORDER: 4:02 P.M.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF QUORUM AND PROPER NOTICE
PRESENT: Commissioner Nan Cobb, Commissioner Willie Hawkins, Vice Mayor Emily
Lee, Commissioner Karen LeHeup-Smith and Mayor Michael Holland
1. WORKSHOP ITEM WITH COMMISSION DISCUSSION, PUBLIC COMMENT AND
DIRECTION
1.1 Continuation of review of proposed budget for fiscal year 2021-2022
Ron Neibert, City Manager, provided an overview of the Water & Sewer
Revenue Fund with a beginning Fund Balance of $9.4 million, Total Estimated
Revenue of $12.4 million and Total Revenues and Fund Balance of
approximately $21.8 million. He cited Total Proposed Expenditures including
Capital of $13.8 million with a net loss of $1.4 million He stated that is an
acceptable situation when you have sufficient Operating Reserves. He
indicated they have $3.3 million restricted reserves with an available Fund
Balance of Unreserved Balance of $2 .6 million and a total ending Fund
Balance of $8 million .
The Commission asked if the budget includes CARES Act funds with Mr.
Neibert stating those funds will be used for the sewer plant expansion and that
will not be built until the following fiscal year so it will appear in the next year's
budget.
Mr. Neibert then reviewed the various Water and Sewer Revenues. He noted
that the Umatilla sewer charges should come online towards the end of the
year. He stated they are estimating annual revenues from that of $90,000
partial year and eventually approximately $350,000 per year.
The Commission asked what constitutes the Fines & Forfeitures with Mike
Sheppard, Finance Director, responding those are late fees.
The Commission asked about Bad Debt Recovery with Mr. Neibert explaining
those are lost revenues that wind up being paid when a property is sold that
has a utility lien on it.
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Public Utilities
Rick Gierok, Public Works Director, explained the department is broken down
into three sections - Public Utilities which includes administration, engineering
and customer service, Water and Wastewater. He then explained they have
done some restructuring which has changed some of the numbers. He noted
the retirement of Bill Johnston and the promotion of Max Brundage as
Wastewater Superintendent, Brad Pennington to Water Superintendent and
Greg Dobbins as Utilities Director. He then reviewed the Public Utilities -
Administration detail noting $19,000 for a new computer for the engineer, new
Autocad software and replacement of a copier. He explained the $24,000
under Professional Services is for continuing service contracts for specialty
engineers.
The Commission asked about the increase under Operating Supplies to
$22,550 with Mr. Gierok indicating that Operating Supplies vary from year to
year. He noted the increase in cost for engineering software. He added that in
the current year they have already spent more than 50% of what is budgeted
with six months in.
Mr. Gierok then noted the reduction in Employee Study Expense and explained
that covers annual recertification training .
The Commission asked what happens with older vehicles with Mr. Gierok and
Mr. Neibert explaining they are transferred to other departments and eventually
auctioned off. He then explained Machinery & Equipment is for capital items.
Mike Sheppard , Finance Director, explained Customer Service has been
transferred to Public Utilities and explained some of the personnel
changeovers which reduced some of the personnel cost. He cited Repairs and
Maintenance and explained how that is now being divided between the
General Fund and Water & Sewer Fund . He explained the Machinery &
Equipment is for replacement of the air conditioning unit in the IT room where
the servers are located and the cost is being split between the General Fund
and Water & Sewer.
The Commission questioned the number of Customer Service personnel with
Mr. Sheppard responding there are four Customer Service Representatives,
one Supervisor, one Utility Billing Clerk and four meter readers.
The Commission then asked about the Other Contractual Services with Mr.
Sheppard explaining that is for credit card service fees to allow customers to
pay by credit card . It was noted that other organizations charge a convenience
fee with Mr. Neibert noting it is offered as a convenience to the customers and
eliminates the problem with getting bad checks.
The Commission discussed offering an incentive to encourage people to do
their payments by bank drafting.
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Mr. Sheppard commented on staff's efforts to get customers to use bank draft
and e-bills.
Meter Reading
Mr. Sheppard reviewed the Meter Reading budget with the Commission asking
how they estimate the fuel costs with Mr. Sheppard and Mr. Neibert
commenting on the difficulty in estimating that cost due to the fluctuations in
gas prices.
The Commission asked where the City purchases gas with Mr. Sheppard
stating they use a Wex card and can get it anywhere and get a discount from
the pump price.
The Commission questioned the increase in Operating Supplies with Mr.
Sheppard indicating that was transferred from the General Fund to the
Water/Sewer Fund and consists of fuel for the meter readers.
Water
Mr. Gierok indicated that there are actually 24 positions in Water and 17 in
Wastewater due to the restructuring. He commented on the inhouse
promotions and hiring of young individuals that earn less per hour.
The Commission asked about reaching the $15 per hour minimum wage with
Mr. Neibert explaining the plan is to have a 3% increase over the next three
years with a slight additional increase at the end which will result in the lowest
paid employees reaching the $15 per hour prior to the federal mandate.
Mr. Gierok reviewed the different divisions - Administration, Water Treatment,
Distribution, Ground Maintenance, Backflow/Conservation, Eastern Water
System and Reclaimed Distribution . He then explained the increase in
Professional Services due to the required water supply plan and water master
plan updates and a wetlands study required for the City's Consumptive Use
Permit. He then reviewed the detail for Other Contractual Services. He stated
the increase in Repair & Maintenance is for repairs to three warehouses and
maintenance of the standby generator and annual diesel tank cleaning.
Mr. Gierok then explained the increase in Promotional Activities primarily for
the promotion of water conservation and advertising on the City of Leesburg
local TV and radio regarding conservation which is part of the City's
Conditional Use Permit. He explained some of the increase in Operating
Supplies is due to moving all of the employee uniforms into one account. He
noted the increase in AWWA memberships under Books , Pub, Subscriptions
and explained everything they do is in accordance with AWWA standards. He
cited the decrease in Repairs & Maintenance. He reviewed the detail for
Machinery & Equipment to add security cameras with storage at the various
facilities .
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The Commission questioned whether or not all repairs are handled by the City
mechanics with Mr. Gierok indicating a lot is done inhouse; however, whenever
it is cheaper it may be done outside. He noted that it requires certain
certifications to do the fire vehicles so some of those have to go to Sanford for
repairs.
Water Treatment
Mr. Gierok reviewed the detail for Water Treatment noting the reduction in
salaries due to hiring young people to replace individuals promoted. He
commented on the City's efforts to make sure staff are ready for promotion
when upper individuals retire. He then explained why Professional Services
doesn't show any expenditure yet; however, funds have been encumbered to
update an analysis of the water system and plants. He reviewed Other
Contractual Services and Repairs and Maintenance. He cited components at
the water plants that are due for replacement due to starting to need more
repairs. He explained the reduction in Operating Supplies is partially due to
moving uniforms to another account. He commented on the funding for
Employee Study Expense and the City's efforts to get their operators dual
licensed. He indicated that will reduce some of the overtime costs.
Distribution
Mr. Gierok explained that distribution includes both the water and the gravity
sewer lines. He cited the reduction in Travel & Per Diem. He commented on
Repair & Maintenance and explained they keep an inventory of spare parts
such as hydrants, valves, piping, etc. He indicated that is in addition to project
work. He noted extra parts for the large equipment such as frontend loaders
and backhoes. He again noted the reduction in Operating Supplies primarily
due to moving the uniforms to the other account. He commented on the
reduction in Vehicle Repairs & Maintenance due to previous replacement of
some of the older equipment.
The Commission questioned the reduction in Machinery & Equipment from
$36,000 down to $8,000 with Mr. Gierok indicating that last year they had to
purchase a new trencher.
Ground Maintenance
Mr. Gierok explained this division is for mowing of the two plants and includes
two employees one of which was currently vacant.
Backflow/Conservation
Mr. Gierok explained this is for testing of backflow protection devices and
notification to utility customers regarding the need to test those devices and
keep them operational. He noted a new truck is budgeted under Capital
Outlay.
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The Commission confirmed that the Christmas Bonus represents $100 per
employee. They asked about utilizing flex time rather than overtime with Mr.
Gierok explaining that if someone gets called out on the weekend they get a
minimum of two hours. He commented that sometimes they use comp. time
rather than taking overtime. He indicated the difficulty in allowing additional
time off.
Eastern Water Plant
Mr. Gierok explained the City has two water plants. He cited issues they are
having with Well #2 which has a higher volume. He indicated that Well #1 is
much smaller than Well #2 and cannot serve the City if Well #2 goes down. He
explained the increase in Professional Services is for engineering to try and
upsize Well #1 .
Discussion was held regarding what caused one of the well failures .
Reclaimed Distribution
Mr. Gierok commented on the possibility of this item being incorporated into
Water Distribution. He stated if there is a reclaimed break it will be charged
under this.
Recess: 5: 15 p.m . Reconvene: 5:34 p.m.
Wastewater
Mr. Gierok explained the Wastewater Division consists of Administration,
Collection & Lift Station, Treatment, Laboratory, Reclaimed, Sludge Disposal,
Eastern Wastewater Plant, Environmental Compliance and Eastern Lift
Stations. He noted that the actual number of employees is down to 17. He
commented on the reduction in Salaries due to the restructuring. He explained
the increase in Professional Services was due to combining the Professional
Services and Contractual Services. He stated the increase in Operating
Supplies is again because of moving all of the uniforms into one division.
Collection & Lift Station
Mr. Gierok noted the reduction in Professional Services stating it was higher
the previous year due to engineering for the Umatilla project and cited the
needed influent and infiltration studies. He explained the benefit to the l&I
studies to prevent the City wastewater plants having to treat runoff type water.
He explained the fluctuations from year to year in Repairs and Maintenance.
Treatment
Mr. Gierok commented on the overtime for Treatment due to requirements for
operating the wastewater plants. He indicated that is where dual certification
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will help. He reviewed various line items including Utilities Services, Repairs &
Maintenance, Operating Supplies and Employee Study Expense.
Laboratory
Mr. Gierok explained there are two employees - one with a biology degree and
the other with a chemistry degree. He explained that when there is a water line
break they have to have an independent third-party company do the testing.
He then reviewed detail for the following line items - Professional Services,
Operating Supplies and Machinery & Equipment.
Reclaimed
Mr. Gierok indicated there is only one employee under Reclaimed . He
reviewed the following specific line items - Professional Services, Utility
Services and Repair & Maintenance.
Sludge Disposal
Mr. Gierok explained that sludge disposal consists of biosolids. He explained
the process noting that the City currently uses Shelley's. He commented on
staff's intent to purchase a press to reduce the water content which will reduce
the hauling costs.
Eastern Wastewater Plant
Mr. Gierok further explained how the restructuring is affecting the plant. He
cited the reduction in Salaries.
The Commission asked about the turnover rate with Mr. Gierok explaining that
the City lost a couple of employees two years ago but they have already left
the other city.
Discussion was held regarding the addition of the Dual Operator position with
Mr. Gierok indicating that will be an entirely new position and will have a bump
in salary.
Mr. Gierok then reviewed various line item details including Professional
Services and Operating Supplies.
Environmental Compliance
Mr. Gierok explained this consists of inspections particularly of restaurants to
ensure that they are not putting grease in the sewer system. He commented
on companies that collect the grease have been known to dump it down a
manhole and it immediately clogs the system. He stated that every spill has to
be reported to FDEP and a TV station . He further explained the ramifications
and how it affects the plant.
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Eastern Lift Stations
Mr. Gierok noted those are for Heathrow to get the flow to Sorrento Springs.
The Commission commented on residents in the eastern area that use more
than their share of reclaimed water and asked if it is possible to have a control
valve with Mr. Gierok noting there is a higher rate for individuals that use more
than a certain amount. He noted they are in the process of renegotiating the
reclaimed water contract with Heathrow.
Mr. Neibert stating that the City could initiate use regulations and could put in a
series of valves to control who gets it when.
Discussion was held regarding a previous incident where they complained
about lack of reclaimed water which was exacerbated by a shut down due to
grease being dumped into the system. Further discussion was held regarding
how to control the use.
Mr. Gierok noted the excess use is enforced through code enforcement;
however, that area is in Lake County and not under the City's jurisdiction.
Non-Departmental Expenses
Mr. Neibert announced that the proposed budget includes a transfer from
Water/Sewer to the General Fund of $2,000,000. He also noted that funds are
transferred to the Water & Sewer R&R Fund to pay for that year's capital
projects. He also cited $293,000 transferred into the Sewer Impact Fund for
the incentive program.
Discussion was held regarding Bad Debt Write-offs with Mr. Sheppard also
explaining that if someone has a bad debt and comes in and wants new
service, they are forced to pay off the bad debt first.
Millage Rate Discussion
Mr. Neibert then discussed the previous millage rate suggestion to slightly
increase the millage rate to fund the desired six additional firefighters. He
noted he had sent out information regarding the millage rate options. The
current proposed millage rate is the same as for the past seven years of 7.581.
He stated that a .25 increase would provide $300,000 in additional revenue.
He indicated the discussion at the last meeting was to increase the millage. If
the rate is increased .25 point to 7.831, it would generate an additional
$300,000. Taking $200,000 from the General Fund surplus of $451,000, would
provide the $500,000 required for the additional six firefighters and leave a
General Fund surplus of $251,000. This would provide sufficient staffing to put
the rescue truck back into operation.
The Commission asked if an additional $300,000 could be transferred from
Water/Sewer with Mr. Neibert responding he has reviewed that with the
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Finance Director and City Attorney and determined they could probably do that
increasing the transfer to $2.3 million. However, the downside to keep doing
that reduces the funds for capital projects in the Water/Sewer Fund .
Discussion was held regarding whether or not to increase the transfer with Mr.
Neibert noting that he has been monitoring the County Commission's
discussion regarding their millage rate. He indicated they had proposed to roll
the .5 MSTU into their regular millage rate and do away with the MSTU tax.
The net result would keep taxes to the County residents the same but add an
additional $45 to the municipal residents.
Mr. Neibert indicated that if the City approves the .25 increase combined with
the County increase would result in a .75 increase on the City's residents and
$110 per year on a $200,000 home with a $150,000 taxable value.
Mr. Neibert reported that the City has the highest millage rate in the County;
however, under functional millage rate the City has one of the lowest in the
County. He indicated that he has not been able to determine yet what all the
other cities are doing.
Discussion was held regarding whether or not residents understand the
functional millage rate with Mr. Neibert noting that previously staff compared
total cost of living within the Golden Triangle and Eustis had the lowest cost of
living. He commented on the possibility of someone in Eustis actually paying
less in taxes that the other communities even with Eustis having a higher
millage rate.
Discussion was held regarding when the City should see an increase in its
taxable property value with Mr. Neibert indicating the City may have to carry
some of the expense for a few years. He stated the City did see a 7% increase
in its taxable value over last year.
Discussion was held regarding the need for the additional six firefighters and
getting the rescue truck back on the road.
Discussion was held regarding the deadline for submitting the tentative millage
rate to the Property Appraiser and that whatever the rate they set is the highest
they can go but they can reduce it later.
Further discussion was held with the following comments: 1) Keep the millage
rate at 7.5810; 2) How long would the City have to keep transferring the
additional $300,000 with the City Manager indicating probably the next two
years and then may be able to reduce; 3) Making the hard choices instead of
pushing the problem down the road ; 4) Increase the millage rate by .25; 5)
Finding ways to grow the City; 6) Purpose of the .25 increase would be to add
six more firefighters; 7) Limitations on use of Water/Sewer funds with Mr.
Neibert explaining that once transferred to the General Fund they can be used
for whatever the City wants; and 8) Use of the $300,000 if not transferred
including debt service or a capital project.
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CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission to keep the tentative
millage rate at 7.5810.
Discussion was held regarding a possible allocation to the City for a trails
PD&E study.
Discussion was also held regarding doing a study to see if solar energy would
be feasible for use at the library.
Vice Mayor Lee commented on how records are kept at the cemetery. She
asked why it has not yet been computerized.
Mr. Neibert indicated there are funds in the budget to purchase the appropriate
software. He noted that when the City took over the cemetery they inherited
the records from the hardware store.
The Commission thanked everyone for their work on the budget.
2. ADJOURNMENT: 6:36 P.M.
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CHRISTINE HALLORAN MICHAEL L. HOLLAND
City Clerk Mayor/Commissioner
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