City Commission Workshop Meeting
Regular MeetingEustis, FL · June 28, 2022
Minutes
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MINUTES
City Commission Workshop
5:30 PM - Tuesday, June 28, 2022 - City Hall
CALL TO ORDER: 5:32 P.M.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF QUORUM AND PROPER NOTICE
PRESENT: Commissioner Nan Cobb, Commissioner Willie Hawkins, Vice Mayor Emily
Lee, Commissioner Karen LeHeup-Smith and Mayor Michael Holland
1. WORKSHOP ITEM WITH COMMISSION DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION
1.1 Finance
Mike Sheppard, Finance Director, explained Finance is made up of three
programs: Financial Services, Information Technology and Purchasing. He
provided a line item breakdown for Financial Services. He commented on the need
for cyber insurance due to new legislation and issues with ransomware. He
explained the increase in the Other Contractual Services was for the new Gravity
software. He indicated this was the first year for using the Gravity software to
assist with budgeting and they will be adding auditing. He explained that most of
the software anymore you pay for annual support rather than purchasing the
software.
The Commission asked about budgeting for Repairs and Maintenance for City Hall
and cited various issues with City Hall and the Finance Annex.
Mr. Sheppard stated that the new awnings would be purchased from the Sales
Tax Fund; however, the maintenance would have to come from the General Fund.
He explained that what is currently budgeted is strictly for routine maintenance.
He stated staff could compile some costs to be presented later to the Commission.
The Commission asked how long after the end of the fiscal year would they know
exactly how much was expended for the year with Tom Carrino, City Manager,
responding that preliminary numbers are determined within about a month;
however, final numbers aren't available until the audit is completed .
The Commission asked how the City did the previous year with Mr. Sheppard
indicating he was not sure the exact amount; however, there was an increase in
Fund Balance.
Mr. Carrino explained that any unspent funds go into the Fund Balance.
The Commission asked, if there are funds left over, why can't they do some of the
other unfunded projects with Mr. Sheppard indicating that Fund Balance can be
used to balance the budget. He then reported that the previous year's revenue
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over expense was $2,250,000; however, a lot of that was due to the federal Cares
Grant monies. He then explained that the City maintains a 90-day reserve.
Mr. Carrino stated it is not best practice to assume there would be a surplus and
work it into the budget; however, what they can do they can plan to spend monies
from reserves which could be replaced by any surplus with Mr. Sheppard stating
that would best be done for a one-time only event not a continuing expense.
Rick Gierok, Public Works Director, noted that City Hall was repainted in 2017 and
then it was pressure washed in 2020. He said that additional painting and
cleaning could be moved up.
Mr. Carrino stated that the CIP has been approved only on first reading. He
suggested that could be reviewed during the workshop for additional
consideration.
Mr. Sheppard further explained the benefits of the Gravity software and confirmed
that would be a recurring expense under Repairs and Maintenance.
The Commission questioned the Communication Services line item with Mr.
Sheppard explaining the City is on a municipal plan. He noted that some staff
members use their personal cell phones and are reimbursed for that use.
Mr. Carrino explained that staff members that are required to carry cell phones are
given the option of using their personal phones and being reimbursed.
Commissioner Hawkins noted he has two phone numbers, one of which is a
Google number and for which he is not charged .
Mr. Sheppard indicated that he would have staff look into it. He explained that the
City uses both Comcast and Centurylink in order to have a failsafe. He confirmed
that staff would research the issue to see if they could save the City some funds.
1.2 Parks and Recreation
Craig Dolan , Parks and Recreation Director, explained there are four divisions
under Parks & Recreation - Administration, Rentals, Programs and Aquatics.
Mr. Carrino commented on the budgeted master plan expense of $80,000. He
explained the City would hire a consultant who would review the City's facilities,
assess those facilities, review the City's rental rates, compare with the neighboring
communities and provide guidance on rates , status of the facilities, and usage. He
stated it would help the City develop a vision for the City's facilities and guide
future investments.
Craig Dolan explained the master plan would give the City a 10-year road map for
where recreation should go within the community. He further explained what all
would be included in the cost.
The Commission discussed the large expense and whether or not it would be
feasible to predict out for ten years.
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Mr. Dolan explained the benefit of bringing in an outside company to prepare the
master plan and stated it would be put out to bid. He further explained it would be
a year-long process. He provided a breakdown of what would be included in the
process. He stated he had used an outside company at another location and it
was well worth the cost. He noted that several years previous the City of Mount
Dora spent $80,000 on their master plan.
The Commission asked what the plan would give the City in addition to the input
the City is already receiving from the community with Mr. Dolan responding the
plan will look at how much park land the City already has and how much it needs
and where. It will review the City's existing facilities to see if they need to be
updated or placed elsewhere.
Mr. Carrino stated a master plan would provide an expert opinion on how to spend
the City's scarce resources moving forward. He noted that the Water & Sewer
Fund is required to periodically update its master plan. He recommended at least
putting out an RFQ to see what's out there and what the actual cost would be. He
emphasized that the City does not have unlimited resources and it is important to
determine the most efficient use of its resources.
Further discussion was held regarding funding for the master plan and the need to
obtain additional information regarding the process with the Commission
requesting a presentation.
Mr. Dolan responded that he could provide to the Commission copies of recent
plans prepared for other cities and Mr. Carrino indicated they could prepare a
presentation for the retreat with Mr. Sheppard commenting on how improvements
could be funded perhaps through a bond.
Discussion was held regarding the need to improve the City's Parks & Recreation
program.
Commissioner Cobb then asked about other salary and wages noting that
custodians are under regular salary and also under "other" and "additional part-
time custodians" and "custodian back-up".
Mr. Dolan explained they were down a custodial position during the year. He
stated the facilities are open seven days a week and commented on the difficulty
in hiring.
The Commission suggested combining all the part-time positions into one full-time
position with Mr. Dolan indicating he doesn't need a fourth full-time person. He
explained he mostly needs a part-time person to open and close facilities on the
weekends for approximately 20 hours per week.
Vice Mayor Lee asked what is included under "capital outlay" with Mr. Carrino
explaining those are one-time projects. He stated the City has two categories -
less than $25,000 projects and more than $25,000 projects. Those are the less
than $25,000 projects. He explained that the line item varies from year-to-year.
For the next year, they are considering a keyless entry system, two facility sheds
and breezeway fences .
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The Commission asked what is planned for the breezeway fences with Mr. Dolan
explaining it would look like wrought-iron but would be aluminum so a breeze
could go through it but it would be secure. He then explained they are also
installing a white vinyl fence with lattice at the Women's Club.
The Commission then asked about the sheds with Mr. Dolan explaining the cost
includes the shed, concrete pad and installation. He noted he is hoping the prices
will be less than budgeted with the Commission encouraging him to look at local
vendors.
The Commission then asked about a plan for replacing the concrete picnic tables
in the parks and suggested he inspect the tables at Bennett Park.
The Commission then asked about "other contractual" and the program
instructors. They questioned if people pay to attend the programs with Mr. Dolan
explaining that the City receives 30% more than what it is paying for the
instructors. It was noted that the budget does not show the revenue obtained from
the programs only the expenditures.
The Commission confirmed the master plan study would show which buildings or
programs are not needed as well as what is needed.
Mr. Sheppard noted that the General fund revenues is shown in the front of the
draft budget book.
1.3 Police Department
Craig Capri, Police Chief, presented the Police Department budget. He noted the
increases in fuel and equipment.
The Commission asked what is "Wex gas" with Mr. Sheppard explaining that is the
company the City is contracted with for fuel. He noted the City does not pay the
pump price but pays the price without taxes.
Chief Capri explained he mandated that no one is to leave their cars running,
unless they are a K-9 vehicle, in order to conserve the resources. He stated the
department's morale is very high and the staff understands the City's money
issues. He stated the department is not asking for anything they can't justify and,
in fact, are reducing some items.
Commissioners asked about the salary expenses with Chief Capri noting that the
salary for Captain Fahning is correct. He noted that Captain Winheim will be
retiring in August but that position will then be filled.
Mr. Sheppard explained that the draft budget has been adjusted as needed for
new personnel as they come in.
The Commission expressed concern about some of the line items with Mr. Carrino
indicating that it can be difficult to remove some line items from Edmunds so those
are hold over items from the previous year. Mr. Sheppard and Chief Capri
explained the School Resource Officer comes under the Police Department and
the City will be reimbursed by the School Board including the cost for benefits.
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Chief Capri commented on the need to choose officers carefully and insure they
are well-trained. He confirmed the SRO's are new officers and will require hiring
new personnel. He noted that all of the local agencies are short on people.
The Commission then asked about the vacancy for a communications officer with
Chief Capri indicating they are working on filling that position. He commented on
the need to evaluate the situation and noted how good the City's equipment is. He
stated he constantly is looking to re-evaluate to work efficiently. He then
commented on the professionalism of the department and stated they are looking
at outsourcing some ancillary duties and looking for other ways to reduce costs.
The Commission asked about the Motorola Solutions Communications flex to flex
data conversion and other maintenance expenses with Chief Capri stated those
numbers will change as he is working with the County regarding transferring over
Spillman. Initially, they will have to pay a little more upfront; however, the next
year will be lower and then the year after it will be free as it will be covered by a
federal grant.
Mr. Carrino reported there is some duplication that needs to be cleared up and
staff will be providing updated costs on the migration.
The Commission questioned the cost to the City for electricity with Commissioner
Hawkins expressing support for initiating solar wherever possible to reduce costs.
Mr. Sheppard explained that homeowners get a federal tax credit which makes it
more affordable; however, the City would not get that.
Further discussion was held regarding the possible use of solar power, the high
upfront cost for solar and whether or not grant funds might be available for that.
Chief Capri noted that the Police Department will be looking for a part-time grant
writer and cited one grant for additional equipment for the patrol cars. He also
commented on the approved grant with Lifestream for mental health services. He
noted they are having issues with vacant positions. He added that all of the City's
officers are also sent for specialized training regarding mental health issues.
The Commission complimented Chief Capri on thinking outside the box and the
professionalism of the department.
Chief Capri thanked the Commission for their support for the department and cited
the high morale of the department personnel.
Discussion was held regarding the vacant positions and departmental activities
regarding criminal arrests and ticketing.
Recess: 6:50 p.m. Reconvene: 7:00 p.m.
1.4 Fire Department
Due to technical issues, there is no recording for the remainder of the workshop.
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Mike Swanson, Fire Chief, presented the Fire Department budget citing the three
divisions - Administration, Prevention and Suppression. He reported there are
approximately 1100 businesses in the City with over 975 inspections conducted in
the previous year. He noted they are still partnering with other towns for physicals
to reduce costs. He cited costs for attending the FDIC Fire Department
Instructor's Conference.
The Commission asked what is included under Contractual Services with Chief
Swanson citing the following items: network, CAD system and firewall, portable
maintenance, and heart monitor calibration. He also explained the cell phone
usage with air cards retained in each truck for communication with the hospital. He
indicated they must use specific vendors. He noted that the EMT and paramedic
licenses need to be renewed regularly and cited costs for uniforms and sprinkler
and alarm maintenance. Under Books and Subscriptions, he explained they have
moved to a subscription process so they have access to active codes and digital
books kept on the internet. He indicated that all officers are required to be certified
inspectors and they are starting to activate personnel to work on inspections.
Chief Swanson then reported the Prevention budget remains relatively unchanged
other than increases for fuel. He reviewed the Suppression budget noting that the
titles in the draft budget are incorrect; however, the salaries are correct. He stated
they are still not up to full staffing and noted there are still employees out with
Covid.
The Commission asked about the hiring for the new positions with Chief Swanson
responding they have hired five out of the six new positions.
Chief Swanson indicated most of the rest of the budget is unchanged. He
reviewed some of the Other Contractual Services including TS Target Solutions,
ER Reporting and ESO for patient care reporting. He stated the department is
doing well noting there are some challenges with morale within the department.
He noted the fire union had reached an impasse during bargaining for the new
contract. He praised the department stating they are a tight team and noting that
many staff members are fire inspectors.
Mr. Carrino noted the capital line item for the new tower truck and bunker gear
which is included in the CIP. He indicated that bunker gear expires every five
years and everyone has two sets of gear. He stated they are expecting a 20%
increase in the cost for the gear due to supply chain issues. He explained the plan
is to construct a gear room to keep the gear out of the exhaust and sunlight. He
stated there is $200,000 invested in gear and they need to take care of it in order
to keep staff safe. He then commented on the fireboat estimate for the previous
year. He stated $75,000 is needed to replace one of the Life Packs which are
needed for special events. He indicated the plan is to buy the Life Pack with an
extended warranty and service pack.
Commissioner Hawkins commented on the exterior sign and paint work that was
completed two years previous.
Chief Swanson stated he would work with Chief Capri regarding planning for future
upgrades. He noted that there were upgrades needed to both the police and fire
stations as the City expands with additional growth which may warrant a combined
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public safety complex. If growth occurs as projected, then the departments will
outgrow current facilities. He noted that a building would need to last for 50 years
to address tutu re growth.
Commissioner Cobb asked about the process for used municipal vehicles.
Mr. Sheppard explained that the Finance Department works with Public Works to
auction items through Gideon Auctioneers to sell excess vehicles that are worth
selling. He noted that this is not done on a yearly basis, but they try to save money
by reusing vehicle parts. He then explained that the Fire Station Gear Room was
moved to the Fire Impact Fund and $70,000 was reserved for a carport.
Mr. Dolan cited the intent to purchase two vans for administration, staff and
custodians as the older vehicles are aging and need replacement over the next
five years.
1.5 CRA Meeting
Mr. Carrino confirmed the CRA meeting would be held July 21, 2022 at 5:30 p.m.
instead of discussing the CRA budget at a separate workshop. He reminded the
Commissioners to submit their financial disclosure forms.
2. ADJOURNMENT: 7:41 P.M.
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CHRISTINE HALLORAN MICHAEL L. HOLLAND
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Agenda
AGENDA
City Commission Workshop
5:30 PM - Tuesday, June 28, 2022 - City Hall
CALL TO ORDER
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF QUORUM AND PROPER NOTICE
1. WORKSHOP ITEM WITH COMMISSION DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION
1.1 Finance
1.2 Parks and Recreation
1.3 Police Department
1.4 Fire Department
1.5 Public Works/Utilities
2. ADJOURNMENT
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