City Commission Workshop Meeting
Regular MeetingEustis, FL · June 30, 2022
Minutes
APPROVED:9/8/2022
MINUTES
City Commission Workshop
5:30 PM - Thursday, June 30, 2022 - City Hall
CALL TO ORDER: 5:30 P.M.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF QUORUM AND PROPER NOTICE
PRESENT: Commissioner Nan Cobb, Commissioner Willie Hawkins, Vice Mayor Emily
Lee, Commissioner Karen LeHeup-Smith and Mayor Michael Holland
1. WORKSHOP ITEM WITH COMMISSION DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION
1.1 Public Works/Utilities
Tom Carrino, City Manager, announced the focus of the workshop would be on
Public Works.
Rick Gierok, Public Works Director, presented budget items for the General Fund,
Street Fund, Stormwater, Engineering and Water & Sewer noting those items with
substantive changes. He began with the Maintenance Garage and explained
office supplies had all been grouped under Administration rather than have a
number of smaller accounts. He noted Operating Supplies increased due mostly
to the increase in fuel charges. He then reported on Traffic Signal Maintenance
Lake County Reimbursement. He indicated that the $70,000 in the budget needs
to be removed and stated there is an additional $70,000 in the 13 fund and an
additional $35,000 in the 13 fund. He explained that the state reimburses the City
for maintenance of the signals; however, Lake County under traffic operations
does the Lake County cities and the City reimburses Lake County for those costs.
Mr. Carrino explained staff will be summarizing what has been changed during the
last three budget workshops and will provide the status including the Commission
and staff requests and recommended changes.
Mr. Gierok then reviewed Building Maintenance and indicated that the increase in
Regular Salaries is not due to adding positions but reflects numbers for unfilled
positions that they are trying to fill. He noted the inclusion under Other Salaries
and Wages for a part-time electrician. He indicated that no funding is being
requested under Other Salaries and Wages. He commented on the difficulty in
filling the skilled positions as people that are qualified are making significantly
more money elsewhere.
Discussion was held regarding combining some positions and the City's basic
requirements with the Commission asking if the City had looked at Lake Tech as a
resource to fill positions. Mr. Gierok explained they are wanting the employee to
have both electrical and HVAC experience. He commented on the City's former
employee who was a licensed electrician and tried to retire three different times.
He indicated that the City has either not been speaking with the correct person or
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Lake Tech does not have the appropriate persons to fill the positions. He added
that he has also looked at outsourcing.
Mr. Gierok reviewed Repair and Maintenance and explained what is included for
the different buildings including preventive maintenance with the Commission
asking about consolidating maintenance issues by type instead of by department.
The Commission asked about the Clifford House and what is entailed with Mr.
Gierok explaining the City does structural type repairs and the Historical Society
takes care of lightbulbs, etc. He noted a current issue with roofing leaks. It was
noted that there are still funds still listed for the American Legion building which
has been demolished.
Discussion was held regarding repairs to the Senior Center with Mr. Carrino noting
that the City rents out the Senior Center.
The Commission asked if the Historical Society pays rent for use of the Clifford
House with Mr. Carrino commenting on the benefit to the City of having the
museum in downtown Eustis. He indicated that staff could look at the
relationships with those types of organizations and express the City's
expectations. The Commission expressed an interest in the Historical Society
increasing its marketing to improve attendance. It was noted that other cities also
rent out their historical facilities. Discussion was held regarding the David Walker
astronaut suit and the possibility of displaying that and other items in glass cases
at the library, City Hall or other locations. Discussion was also held regarding the
ownership of the items contained in the museum.
Mr. Gierok reviewed Operating Supplies and commented on the difficulty in
maintaining some line items especially fuel expenses. Discussion was held
regarding whether or not a budget amendment would be needed due to the
increasing fuel costs.
Mr. Gierok discussed the Cemetery budget challenges and maintenance needs.
He noted the reduction in Salaries due to new staff members versus the former
employees who retired. He cited the need to get the lawn maintenance crew to
help perform some of the maintenance. He stated the new GIS program is up and
functioning.
Mayor Holland indicated an interest in holding a workshop the first week in August
to discuss cemetery budget items. The Commission asked about software needs
that may be helpful for efficiency. Mayor Holland cited the need to look at the
pricing structure. Discussion was held regarding the need to improve the look of
the cemetery before increasing the pricing. It was also suggested that they
consider outsourcing the mowing, particularly during the summer, or increasing the
staff.
Mike Sheppard, Finance Director, explained that the revenue from the cemetery
lot sales is split 80% to the General Fund with 20% staying in the Cemetery Fund.
He indicated his belief that the cemetery fees were last increased prior to 2012.
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The Commission asked about the cemetery roads, particularly on the west side,
with Mr. Gierok indicating that they are scheduled for an asphalt overlay in the
current budget year.
Mr. Gierok reported on the Park Maintenance budget and noted that $10,000 was
added to both the lawn maintenance and tree contractors. He explained how the
expenses are divided up between divisions. He indicated that outsourcing is
working well. He further explained that when the lawn maintenance was bid out
there were items that were inadvertently omitted from the contract. Therefore,
there are costs for additional services. He indicated City crews do emergency
work and the contractor is brought in when needed. He explained that when lawn
maintenance was bid out there was about half of the City that was retained to be
done by the City crews. He indicated that there are some additional areas that
could be re-assigned, if there are sufficient funds, to the contractor to allow more
time for City crews to work on the higher profile sites.
Mr. Gierok reviewed additional areas that could be added to the contractor as
follows: Sunset Park, Carver Park, Liberty Isle Park, Palmetto Plaza, The Avenue,
Elizabeth Circle, and Bennet Park. He estimated an additional cost of $80,000 to
do those areas. He indicated the additional $20,000 he put into the budget will
help and $30,000 would help more.
The Commission commented on the high estimated cost with Mr. Gierok stating he
can ask the contractor to provide quotes for each of the areas and bring it back to
the Commission for review. The Commission confirmed the term of the contract.
Mayor Holland asked about number of employees in 2009 and cited the City's loss
of help in terms of getting up-to-date with staffing needs. He stated his preference
for keeping work in house while noting that it is often cheaper to outsource rather
than hire additional employees.
Mr. Gierok confirmed he would get additional pricing and bring it back to the
Commission for further review.
Commissioner Cobb asked about the portable handicapped toilets and questioned
if it would be cheaper to build some bathrooms versus the cost of renting. Mr.
Gierok indicated he would put together a price to construct the bathrooms.
Commissioner Hawkins asked about the budget for mulch with Mr. Gierok
indicating one amount is for the ADA mulch for the playgrounds which is
expensive and the other is for regular mulch for the flower beds.
Vice Mayor Lee asked about communication devices with Mr. Gierok explaining
the need for City phones to keep focused on City business. He stated they are not
allowed to use their personal phones during work hours. Vice Mayor Lee then
asked that staff check the playground equipment when they are working in the
playground area. Mr. Gierok stated he will instruct staff that the expectation is
they will report back on the City's needs when they are in the field.
Mr. Gierok reviewed the Street Fund beginning with Administration and Salaries.
He cited the reduction in overtime expense. He explained that Jobey Jones
supervises approximately 30 employees. Discussion was held regarding when he
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might be retiring with Mr. Gierok explaining they changed the protocol to have
people report issues to the Police Department first and they know who to contact
regarding a specific issue. He commented on the issue regarding work ethic in
grooming a staff member to succeed Jobey when he retires.
Mr. Gierok reviewed Office Supplies noting that all of the supplies have been
moved into the one fund. He explained the slight increase in vehicle repair
maintenance needs and liability increases. He noted the increase in Other
Contractual for toll charges. He cited the decrease in Operating Supplies due to
shifting monies to other accounts for consistency. He noted the uniforms were
taken out. He reviewed the increase in Repair and Maintenance for vehicle
transmission repairs and commented on how vehicles are rotated and the cost for
used trucks. Mr. Gierok reviewed Lighting and Control and explained it is for
street lights and the sign shop. He explained the budget includes purchasing a
new printer which will allow the City to create some of the signs that they can't do
currently. He then explained the $70,000 in Other Contractual is for payment to
Lake County for maintaining all of the City's traffic signals. He explained how the
line items have been changed to better reflect the actual costs and insurance
payments for accidents resulting in damage. He reviewed the costs under
Operating Supplies.
Mr. Gierok moved on to Street Maintenance and Construction line items, including
pothole repairs and construction projects. He noted the one vacancy has been
filled and cited the reduction in Overtime. He discussed the budget for
Professional Services in the amount of $85,000. He stated that includes a federal
mandate to create an ongoing database of signs, including when installed,
maintained, and all-inclusive.
Mr. Carrino commented on a recent lawsuit regarding signage and the need for
the City to have current information on existing signs.
Mr. Gierok explained what will be included and how the files will be created and
used. He stated the cost is one time only and then the program will be maintained
under GIS. He explained the initial cost is primarily for data collection. He
explained the lawsuit is now directed at the contractor as the sign was installed
incorrectly. He further explained what information will be included and how it will
be updated.
Mr. Gierok discussed the line item for Lawn Mowing, including salaries, the re-
assignment of staff to another department and vacant positions which will also
decrease the salary line items.
Mr. Gierok discussed the contractual tree services, arborist duties and use of the
incinerator. He stated, in the past, some items have been coded to the wrong
account and explained how that is being addressed. He then discussed areas
where trees are to be planted and noted the City's classification as a "Tree City
USA." He explained the program with Commission confirming the trees are
purchased locally.
Recess: 7:06 p.m. Reconvene: 7:20 p.m.
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Mr. Gierok then reviewed Stormwater Admin Professional Services. He explained
that item includes the cost for a consultant who prepares the City's MS4 permit
which is a citywide stormwater permit. He stated the remainder of the funds
covers additional engineering services when needed. He noted that most of the
time he can do the work himself. He indicated that a portion of that could be used
toward the $80,000. He explained, however, that Mike Brisson has been
promoted to a salaried position and will no longer be available to do survey work
on overtime.
Mr. Carrino explained that not all monies can be transferred from fund to fund so
that has to be considered.
The Commission asked about "termination pay" with Mr. Sheppard explaining that
is for paying people who leave and receive payment for their accumulated sick and
vacation hours.
Mr. Gierok reported on Street Sweeping and Drainage Maintenance. He stated
the two vacancies have been filled. It was noted that 40% of Chris Helme and
Jobey Jones salaries are included in that line item. He confirmed that the City is
still doing street sweeping for Umatilla and stated they pay the City $1,000 per
month for the service. He explained how the street sweeping is scheduled and
cited the amount of maintenance required. Discussion was held regarding
whether or not to continue the contract with Umatilla and whether or not to replace
the equipment.
Mr. Gierok then reviewed various projects including the following: 1) Diedrich
improvements; and 2) Stormwater master plan projects.
The Commission asked whether anything is budgeted for Bay State South with Mr.
Gierok explaining that it is in the current year's budget; however, the agreement
needs to be approved first.
Mr. Carrino explained an amendment to the agreement will come before the
Commission on July 7, 2022. He stated they have made a significant down
payment; however, they now want to change the agreement to reduce the amount
to be charged to their residents. He indicated they will still pay the City for the
improvements within five years. He stated the amount to be charged to the
residents was incorporated in the original agreement so any change has to come
to the Commission. They are asking to reduce the charges to the residents to $90
per year to cover their debt service.
Mr. Gierok continued his review and cited the City's concrete crushing program
which makes it so the City does not have to purchase fill and they can also sell
some to developers.
The Commission asked whether or not the area along David Walker Road has
been cleaned up with Mr. Gierok indicating what has been cleaned up and what is
stored at the site. Comments were made regarding a planned development being
constructed in the area. Mr. Gierok reported they had crushed up the corrugated
pipe and were able to sell it to a salvage yard for approximately $87,000.
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Mr. Gierok then reviewed Public Utilities - Engineering and cited a number of
changes in staffing and salaries. He noted $24,000 in the Professional Services
line item for additional engineering services which may be needed outside the
scope of his personal expertise. He stated there is $45,000 in the Utilities
Administration for the wastewater study which is done every five years.
Mr. Sheppard indicated that a study was done two years previous; however, due
to recent inflation rates, which are higher than they have been in the last 40 years,
he determined the City should do another water/wastewater study to make sure
the projected rates are realistic.
Mr. Carrino commented on the Umatilla wastewater contract which states the City
can only charge for the treatment of their wastewater and not for the collection.
He explained the previous rate study did not break out treatment versus collection
so that needs to be done in order to pass any increases on to Umatilla.
Mr. Gierok then reported on planned machinery and equipment purchases and the
reasons for each. He noted that instead of having documents printed outside, they
are using the City scanner/copier to do the printing inside for documents to be
distributed. He then commented on the use of high school students to get all of
their archival files scanned. He added there were also some handicapped
individuals that assisted with the project so that everything is now scanned.
Mr. Sheppard reviewed the Customer Service salaries and planned staff changes.
It was indicated that the increases are not included in the budget amounts. He
commented on the staff experience, promotions, and overtime in the Customer
Service positions. Discussion was held regarding the effect on compression and
how the requested promotions would affect the other employees. Discussion was
held on the overtime in the budget and whether or not the Customer Service
Supervisor position should be a salaried position with Mr. Sheppard explaining the
history of the position. He complimented the current staff member on her
supervisory abilities.
Bill Howe, Human Resources Director, discussed qualifications for manager and
supervisor positions and explained how an exempt status is determined. He
indicated that an audit of the position does not show that the position qualifies to
be salaried based on the position responsibilities. The Commission further
discussed opportunities for staff promotions and qualifications, making
adjustments for qualifications and needs, and whether or not to promote the
employee to Manager.
Mayor Holland cautioned the Commission about becoming too involved in
micromanaging the departments.
Mr. Sheppard reviewed the slight increases in Other Contractual Services primarily
due to increases in repairs and maintenance for IT.
The Commission asked about the collections service with Mr. Sheppard explaining
how the process works and noting that the City splits the amount collected 50/50
with the service. He then commented on the option for filing utility liens and
explained that services may be disconnected after eight days of nonpayment. He
noted that they held off on disconnects during the pandemic.
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The Commission asked the cost for credit checks with Mr. Sheppard explaining
how it is used to determine the amount of a deposit to be required. They then
asked about the credit card/debit card expense with Mr. Sheppard explaining they
don't charge a convenience fee in order to encourage people to pay. Further
discussion was held regarding bad debt and the amount collected with Mr.
Sheppard noting that whenever someone moves back to Eustis that owes a bad
debt, it is collected before they receive new service. He noted that they are also
encouraging customers to select "e-bills" to reduce the cost of mailing out bills. He
commented on the use of Verteks to assist the IT division. The Commission
thanked him for planning the replacement of the night-drop box.
Mr. Sheppard reviewed the meter reading expenses, staffing and recommended
staff changes. He cited the large increase in the cost of fuel. He noted the
budgeted $60,000 for machinery and equipment and cited the need to replace two
of the vehicles. He also indicated the need to replace certain non-working
equipment due to the item no longer being repaired. He then commented on the
need to migrate to new cloud-based software. The Commission asked about the
lifespan on the trucks with Mr. Sheppard indicating the one has over 80,000 miles.
He explained about the changeover to RF frequency meters and how the old
meters are changed over as possible. The Commission suggested proceeding
with ordering the vehicles due to the long wait for arrival. Mr. Sheppard then
commented on the possibility of obtaining bids for surplus equipment online.
Mr. Gierok then reported on Environmental Compliance as a new line item due to
new mandates required under Senate Bill 712 and House Bill 53. He explained the
need to create the new position of Environmental Compliance Manager due to the
mandates and heavy reporting requirements and other existing positions to be
incorporated under Environmental Compliance. He emphasized the need to fill the
new position as soon as possible. He indicated the increase in the budget is
approximately $60,000.
Mr. Gierok then reviewed the Water Department budget. He noted an increase
under Professional Services due to the need for engineering services and a new
Consumptive Use Permit (CUP) for an alternate supply well. He explained that, as
the City runs out of re-use, the regulating agencies are requiring the City to have
an alternate water source for irrigation. He commented on the increase in Repair
and Maintenance for renovating the floors in the Water Department and
warehouse.
Mr. Gierok discussed the Water Treatment budget. He noted the reduction in
Professional Services. He explained the need to redo their models. He then cited
the increase in Other Contractual due to primary and secondary samples. He
explained new sampling requirements and stated those are not annually recurring.
He commented on the increase in Communication Services to cover internet
services for security cameras that are cloud-based at the water treatment facilities.
He stated utility services increased $20,000 or 10% for electric and stated they are
researching the potential for installing solar panels. He noted City property that
might be available for that. He explained some cities have formed a co-op in order
to install solar; however, those are cities that already are electric providers. He
then explained the increase in Operating Supplies due to increases in fuel and
chlorine bleach supplies.
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Mr. Gierok then reviewed Improvements Other than Buildings and explained that is
for valves , pumps and similar equipment so they budget for probable equipment
failure . He then reviewed Distribution and explained Water is divided into
Treatment and Distribution. He stated Distribution includes all of the water lines
. andthe gravity sewer. He noted there are a number of vacancies which .n~ed to
be_filled. tie ·explained that is why Salaries is down somewhat as :the riew· hires
wHI come in at the bottom of the range .
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Mr. G.ierok discussed Distribution .Repair and Maintenance prima(i-ly foesp~re _garts
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inv~~tory .no.ting Jhat the City has 300 miles of piping.· H~ explaJnedJ he)nc.r~ase-
in Operating -Supplies due to the need to increase their in-stock safety supplies
and acquisition of a new mudpump and confined space tripod. He cited $60,000
btidgetetf for.·a
,traiter for -the emergency.preparation stuff and a variety·o(other .
replacement .'e quipment·. --,
M.r. Gierok,r.eviewed the Ground Maintenance budget and explained cenain .
positions moved into this division that were previously budgeted ·elsewhere . . He
then reviewed the changes to Backflow/Conservation noting this was moved to
Environmental Compliance.
M. Gierok discussed the Eastern Water Plant and cited the increase in the
Overtime due to DEP requirements. He reviewed Professional Services noting the
need for another CUP modification as more properties are brought online. He
cited changes to Other Contractual due to testing changes and Communication
Services for the internet service for the security cameras. He stated Repair and
Maintenance went up $3,000 due to the chemical feed system being moved into
Operation Maintenance. He reviewed the Improvements other than Buildings
stating it was increased for the replacement of the sodium hypochloride tank which
would only be a one-year expense.
Mr. Gierok then reviewed the Wastewater Department budget beginning with
Professional Services which covers permit renewal, travel/per diem and training .
He noted new requirements for CDL licenses and explained the State required
training program which logs hours with State. He stated that it consists of two
weeks training and time out of the office.
The Commission commented on new CDL programs being developed by Lake
Sumter State College and Lake Technical College. It was noted that the issue is
finding an appropriate site for the training.
Mr. Gierok explained what is included in the Collection Lift Station budget,
Professional Services, and Other Contractual Services. He explained the increase
in Communication for the Zytex system which sends information regarding
problems with a lift station to the plant which in turns sends a text to staff
members. He stated there has been an issue with AT&T on the 5G switch which
is causing issues with their reporting requirement time frames. He indicated he
thought the issue was resolved but was unsure. He reviewed Operating Supplies
citing various chemicals.
Mr. Gierok commented on staffs thorough review of the budget and reductions
wherever possible. He cited increases in Operating Supplies due to increased
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costs. He also noted the planned acquisition of bullet cameras with Greg Dobbins
explaining the use of the cameras.
Mr. Gierok then commented the retirement of Kathy McDonald a longtime
employee in the Laboratory which would create a reduction in Salaries. He further
noted the increases in Operating Supplies due to material cost increases.
Mr. Gierok reviewed Reclaimed including reduction in Salaries due to staff
changes, and a reduction in Operating Supplies. He then reviewed Sludge
Disposal and explained what it includes and various increases for supplies and
replacement equipment. He stated Capital Outlay includes replacement of the
polymer mixing skiff and a vertical conveyor.
Mr. Gierok explored various options for hiring for vacancies and explained various
difficulties in finding appropriate new hires. He then reviewed the increases for the
Eastern Lift Stations.
1.2 Mayor Comments
Mayor Holland thanked everyone for attending and announced that the next day
would be the Hometown Celebration and fireworks.
2. ADJOURNMENT: 9:02 P.M.
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CHRISTINE HALLORAN MICHAEL L. HOLLAN0 -
City Clerk Mayor/Commissioner
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