City Commission Workshop Meeting
Regular MeetingEustis, FL · July 5, 2022
Minutes
I APPROVED 9/22/2022
MINUTES
City Commission Retreat
4:00 PM - Tuesday, July 5, 2022 - City Hall
CALL TO ORDER: 4:04 P.M.
ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF QUORUM ANO PROPER NOTICE
PRESENT: Commissioner Nan Cobb, Commissioner Willie Hawkins, Vice Mayor Emily
Lee, Commissioner Karen LeHeup-Smith and Mayor Michael Holland
1. WORKSHOP ITEM: TRAILS DISCUSSION
1.1 Tom Carrino, City Manager, requested to move Item #3 Trails Discussion to Item
#1 due to the presence of Mike Stephens at the meeting.
Mr. Carrino presented a map which summarized the Lake County trails master
plan reflecting the various stages. He specifically cited the River to Hills Trail
which runs in the North from the St. Johns River in Astor down to Clermont and
the Orange County line, south of Lake Apopka. He stated that Eustis is the
northern portion of the trail which will be approximately 75 miles. He then noted
the North Lake Trail which is the northern portion of the River to Hills Trail and
runs from Tavares through Eustis to Astor for 27.7 miles. He explained that trail is
subdivided into three segments. One section conceptually runs from downtown
Tavares to Ferran Park with section two running from Ferran Park up to County
Road 42 and section three continuing on to the St. Johns River. He then cited
what he referred to as the "Eustis Loop"; however, the official name is the Trout
Lake Nature Center to Pine Meadows Conservation Area to Lake May Reserve
Loop Trail. He indicated that is not an interconnecting trail; instead it connects
Pine Meadows, Lake May and Trout Lake to the North Lake Trail. He then stated
that Segment 1 conceptually runs from downtown Tavares to Ferran Park;
however, the hard part is determining how that will be accomplished. Segment 2
will run from Ferran Park north to CR42 for approximately 8.2 miles. He stated
they have entered into an interlocal agreement to figure out these two segments
which will require a corridor study and they will need to explore grants to assist
with funding. He reported that Eustis, Tavares, Lake County and Umatilla met to
discuss the project, nail down the big picture options and fine tune the routes.
Mr. Carrino stated staff will be asking for direction to allow them to move forward
into feasibility and corridors. He explained that the railroad right-of-way is not an
option due to active use of the line. He added that the freight line is using the
tracks to store cars for themselves and other uses and they are collecting rent on
the car storage; therefore, they are not likely to abandon the line and allow it to be
used for the trail. He indicated that CSX owns the land and leases it to the freight
line; which would necessitate purchasing the lease as well as the land. He stated
that Tavares is proposing using David Walker and Mount Homer Road to get into
Eustis. He added discussion was also held regarding utilizing Lake Shore Drive;
however, the issue is lack of right-of-way and too many driveway cuts. He
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continued stating that Highway 19 would present the same problem. He indicated
that Umatilla will be utilizing Highway 19. He stated the City needs to determine if
they want the trail to go through downtown Eustis; which would be desirable for
economic development purposes. He added that an alternative would -be to
reroute to the east and connect to the loop trail which would be closer to Trout
Lake Nature Center and 44 but would have less economic impact for Eustis. He
explained that either a consultant or county staff would work on the feasibility and
corridor study. He stated staff needs to determine if the City wants to bring the
trail downtown and if it is willing to put in the time, work and right-of-way
acquisition to do that or would they rather use the path of least resistance and go
east where there is more available right-of-way.
Commissioner Hawkins indicated a preference to focus on the waterfront for the
trails. He asked if a boardwalk could be done along the lake in order to utilize
Lakeshore Drive with Commissioner Cobb also asking about utilizing the lakeside.
Mayor Holland noted prior discussions regarding partnering with Advent Health on
a project with Mr. Carrino indicating that has been brought up before.
Mike Stephens indicated the question for the lakeside would be who owns the
property and indicated it might be more expensive and there could be
maintenance issues. He expressed support for working with Advent Health to
utilize their property.
Commissioner Cobb expressed concern regarding the timing particularly utilizing
County staff rather than a private company for the feasibility study and cited
$25,000 that was previously budgeted by the City for the feasibility study.
Mr. Stephens agreed with the need to move forward faster and utilizing a private
company should be quicker. He stated that Section 3 has already had a feasibility
study completed and is ready to move into PD&E to move from Umatilla into the
forest. He stated the PD&E is scheduled to be approved on July 12th. He stated
the PD&E is unique in that it combines two studies - the Black Bear Trail along 40
and the North Lake River to Hills trail along SR 19. He indicated they are using
old railroad corridor which runs from Umatilla to Astor. He stated they could
combine Sections 1 and 2 for the feasibility study. He indicated the previously
budgeted money by Tavares, Eustis and Umatilla would probably be sufficient for
that.
Mr. Stephens then provided an update on the status of area trails stating that the
Wekiva Trail from Sorrento to Titusville should be completed by the next month.
He commented on the economic benefits to those areas. He indicated the right-of-
way is being purchased for the next section from Sorrento to the East Lake County
Regional Park and Sorrento Elementary School. The PD&E and design is
underway for the trail from Sorrento into Mount Dora and from Mount Dora to
Tavares. He stated $15,000,000 has been budgeted to buy the entire right-of-way
which is an old spur that has not been improved. He confirmed that is mostly
federal funds and additional funds have been applied for the River to Hills Trail.
Mr. Carrino indicated a portion of that funding can also be used for the
feasibility/corridor study. If the grant is received, then a consultant would be
utilized for the study.
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Commissioner Hawkins asked how long it would take for the feasibility study with
Mr. Stephens indicating it would require approximately one year to 18 months. It
was noted that would include a number of stakeholder meetings.
Mr. Stephens recommended bringing the trail through the downtown and
discussion was held regarding the benefits to the downtown.
Commissioner LeHeup-Smith asked about utilizing Eustis Street for a bike path
with Mr. Carrino responding that staff had looked at that and indicated it is not as
much of an option. He indicated they also considered North Shore Drive and
noted City right-of-way that exists in the area. He added that you could put a bike
path or a shared lane on Eustis but not an actual trail.
Commissioner Cobb noted Eustis is the central piece of the trails map.
Mr. Stephens commented on Clermont's "Meet Me in the Middle" concept to bring
visitors into the downtown area.
Discussion was held regarding possible pathways for the trail including Lakeshore
and North Shore Drive.
Vice Mayor Lee asked about grant funds available for this project. Mr. Carrino
indicated state and federal funding may be available for the project. He explained
the County has already applied for funding to assist with the feasibility study and
PD&E and, possibly, construction. He indicated that they are still working to hire a
grant writer.
Mr. Stephens stated he is working with the Florida Greenways and Trails Council
to get the Wekiva and River to Hills trails on their Priority Map for Sun Trail
funding. He explained that comes from vehicle registrations and is $25 million per
year that goes into the Sun Trail trails. He further explained that a project must be
on their Priority Map to receive funding; however, currently both of the projects are
on their Opportunities Map. He indicated they should know by the end of the year
about the status of those projects. He stated they can apply for funding once they
get on the Priority Map. He confirmed that getting the feasibility study done can
help in getting on the Priority Map.
Commissioner Hawkins asked, if once they get on the Priority Map, they take into
consideration the status of their downtown and the expected economic impact.
CONSENSUS: It was a consensus of the Commission to move forward with the
trails, to run the trails through the downtown corridor and to hire an outside
consultant for the feasibility/corridor study.
2. WORKSHOP ITEM: UPDATE ON CURRENT STRATEGIC PLAN
2.1 Mr. Carrino explained the existing strategic plan was developed in 2013 with a
different Commission and leadership team . He stated it is a good plan and staff
needs to update the Commission regarding what has been accomplished which
will be done as part of the budget process. He stated his intent to discuss the
existing plan and provide a big picture look at the various departments and begin
mapping out the future with the possibility of creating a new strategic plan. He
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indicated that the most important aspect is for the Commission to inform staff
about what is important to them, what they want staff working on and how to move
forward to get things accomplished together. He then reviewed the Vision, Mission
and Overall Goals as identified in the existing strategic plan. As he reviewed
various goals, he commented on what has been accomplished and what still
needs to be done. He stated his impression that the discussion should be more
about where they are going instead of about where they've been. He added that
he would be providing some big picture department updates and laying out the big
projects going forward.
Commissioner Cobb asked about the $50,000 budgeted for the strategic plan with
Mr. Carrino indicating he would be explaining that process.
Mr. Carrino cited the new leadership members, mentioned the benefits and
drawbacks, and noted the loss of institutional knowledge.
Commissioner Hawkins commented on how well the new leadership team is
working together.
Mr. Carrino then provided highlights from each department as follows: 1) City
Manager's Office - Creating a new strategic plan, building relationships with City
partners; 2) Events and Tourism - Improving existing events; 3) City Clerk -
Continue to improve tools and technology; and 4) Economic Development - New
director Al Latimer, working on Waterman site, new partnership with LEAD,
exploration of grants, hiring of grant writer, CRA review and identification of City's
competitive advantages and target market
Commissioner Hawkins asked about assisting current businesses with expansion.
He cited Florida Foods with Mr. Carrino responding that is something that LEAD
will be helping to work on and determine what can be done to attract more job
creation.
Commissioner Cobb commented on a discussion a local business recently had
with one of their suppliers about relocating to Eustis. She noted that unfortunately
a number of suppliers are overseas.
Mr. Carrino responded that if a local business has a supplier they would like to see
relocated, the City and Economic Development could work with them to see how
they can assist.
Mr. Carrino continued reviewing the department highlights as follows: 1)
Development Services - New Director Mike Lane who created a condensed
version of the LDR's and comprehensive plan. He stated staff is committed to
reviewing and streamlining the City's processes. He noted there has been an
increase in development activity and indicated staff has had a huge workload. He
added that Code Enforcement is still located in City Hall; however, they are no
longer under Development Services. 2) Library - The Library will continually
evaluate its participation and funding with the Lake County library system. He
cited the expansion of the library's programming and events and noted the need to
keep the library on the cutting edge of technology. 3) Finance - Continuing to
implement technology and software for both City Finance and general operations.
He also cited the upcoming utility rate study and implementing appropriate
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financial policies and protocols. He indicated that it is the City Commission that
balances the City budget and holds the line on the tax rates with the assistance of
the Finance Department. 4) Human Resources - Continues to attract a diverse
work force and remain consistent with labor laws and wage increases; keep
benefits package competitive; and working on collective bargaining. 5) Parks and
Recreation - Working on increasing programming at the pool; working on the
master plan; overseeing $1.9 million in improvements to rental facilities and parks;
and determining what to do with the community building long term. He
emphasized that the master plan can facilitate all of those projects.
Mr. Carrino then reviewed Public Works citing the Bates Avenue Wastewater
Treatment Plant expansion. He stated that will prepare the City for the future
growth. He then noted the Coolidge Area improvements which was prompted by
utilities but could potentially include road improvements, cleaning up the area and
promoting development in that area. He then stated they are working on
reorganizing Public Works citing the Environmental Compliance reorganization.
He added they need to continue to monitor the City's facilities and infrastructures
and plan improvements according. He explained they will continue to monitor the
roads to budget as efficiently as possible and they will continue to monitor the
sewer plant and to plan for what is going to fail and to repair and replace before
failure. He noted that the City has to do master plans for the utility system and to
plan pre-emptively to prevent failures.
Mr. Carrino discussed the Fire Department and cited the possibility of either
establishing a third station or realigning the existing stations. He commented on
the addition of six new positions with the possibility of adding more. He cited the
purchase of the new tower truck with rescue funds, noted the need for other
additional equipment and commented on the union negotiations. He emphasized
the need to invest in the department's equipment in order to maintain the City's
ISO and maintain a high level of service for the community.
Mr. Carrino commented on the need for the Police Department to engage with the
community and noted a number of community events held involving the
department. He emphasized the need to have positive engagement with the
community and not just negative. He added that the SRO (School Resource
Officer) agreement will be coming forward to the Commission for consideration.
He stated they now have a CRA Police Officer and are reorganizing Code
Enforcement under the Police Department which will provide more resources for
Code Enforcement. He commented on upgrades to the Police Department fleet
and equipment.
Mr. Carrino then discussed the need to identify a facilitator and establish a process
for creation of a new strategic plan. He stated they need to determine how
inclusive of the community do they want to be. Will it be more of an internal
process using staff and a facilitator or one where they have a number of public
input meetings. He recommended starting the process with the Commission in
January due to the possibility of there being one or two new Commissioners. He
indicated that funds are budgeted for the process in the new budget year and
questioned whether or not it would make sense to start the process in October
when there may be new Commissioners in January. He restated his
recommendation to wait until January and explained they need to develop a vision,
a mission and strategies. He emphasized that there will always be the
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emergencies and unexpected things that the City has to react to; however, when
looking at the big picture and where the City is going, everything should be tied
back to the strategic plan. He noted that some cities have as part of every agenda
item an explanation of how the item ties to the strategic plan . He added that all
major initiatives should be tied back to the strategic plan. He asked for
Commission input and if there are items they would like staff to be working on.
Commissioner LeHeup-Smith expressed interest in beginning work on the
strategic plan in January with the new Commission and cited the need for the
Commission to step back and look at the big picture and not get too nitty gritty.
She liked the idea of tying the large projects back to the strategic plan and
emphasized the need to allow for a project to be completed before moving on to
something else.
Commissioner Cobb agreed with starting work on the plan in January. She
indicated her desire to start the process of identifying a facilitator as that can take
some time. She asked to have a plan that includes how the City gets where it
wants to be and expressed support for public meetings that allows the public to
see how they get there including strategically, monetarily and what is best for the
community.
Commissioner Hawkins expressed agreement with both Commissioner LeHeup-
Smith and Commissioner Cobb. He asked for more details about how they are
going to accomplish their goals and more specificity.
Commissioner Cobb asked what the norm is for retaining a strategic plan. She
questioned how long the current plan was expected to encompass noting that the
current plan was developed in 2012.
Mr. Carrino responded that best practice is to do annual tweaks with an overhaul
every five years. He noted that the strategic plan has been updated every year as
part of the budget process and that updates on the strategies are also updated.
He noted that much of what is in the current plan has been accomplished.
Commissioner Hawkins asked how much public input over last five years has
affected the City's process with Mr. Carrino indicating that, while the City has
received a lot of input at Commission meetings, not a lot of it has been directed at
the strategic plan.
Commissioner LeHeup-Smith stated that during public input meetings the majority
of public concern has been regarding public safety and parks & recreation. She
added that she did not think the City necessarily did well in promoting input on the
plan; however, the economy fell out and impacted the City's plans.
Mayor Holland commented on the impact of the previous recession on the City's
plans due to the need to keep public safety and utilities going and keep the roads
maintained so it winds up impacting parks and recreation and library services the
most. He emphasized the need to maintain those services as well to keep the
youth occupied and cited the vital services the library provides to residents. He
stated the strategic plan is a road map and needs to be a living document
reflecting what's happening in the community. He provided the example of the
community building . He stated that five years ago when Lake Receptions was
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going well, there was not a need to expand the City's community building;
however, now the City needs a location to hold events.
Commissioner Cobb emphasized the City's issue with roads due to the
intersection of so many state and county roads in addition to the City's roads. She
noted that while it is natural for a City to grow, it needs to grow smarter, and the
maintenance of the roads needs to be considered. She indicated the road
maintenance needs to be considered in the strategic plan and cited the possibility
of looking for grants to assist with that.
Vice Mayor Lee stated that the vision and mission statements seem to be empty
words. She stated her desire for the plan to identify the City's goals and mission in
a more succinct way and to tell who the City is, where it's going, how it's going to
get there and why. After that, then they can seek outside the box to identify
partners i.e. Lake Tech and Lake-Sumter. She emphasized the need to work as a
team to create something new and dynamic and will benefit everyone.
Commissioner Hawkins expressed the need for some urgency to the plan for
growth of the City. He added that he would like to see more urgency getting things
accomplished.
Commissioner Cobb expressed concern that while working on the strategic plan
the City is without an identity. She noted that agriculture is the number one
employer in Lake County and advised that the City needs to remember that. She
commented on the changes in agriculture over the years. She stated they need to
find out who they want to be and recognize what made them great.
Mayor Holland commented on Florida Foods and how they will be a great partner
with the City. He further commented on the impact of pharmaceutical to the City
and how people do not know what is impacting the City. He noted the lack of the
City assisting the businesses in development. He expressed support for the new
Economic Development Director in assisting the City in moving forward.
Vice Mayor Lee stated the need to make it known who the City is. She
commented on the barriers the City keeps running into and also expressed
support for the new Economic Development Director and the opportunity to make
some changes and actually doing something not just talking about it.
Commissioner Hawkins stated that Eustis has the best lakefront in the area and
there is no reason they should have empty restaurants. He commented on the
need for landlords to get the right tenants and make sure their tenants are people
that will be there for a while and have a proven track record. He expressed
support for the City's leadership team.
Recess: 5:32 p.m. Reconvene: 5:55 p.m.
3. WORKSHOP ITEM: ORGANIZATIONAL GRANTS PROCESS
3.1 Mr. Carrino indicated staff was asked to include a discussion on the City's
organizational and event grant process. He explained the grants are for 501 c3
events and non-profit organizations and must be open to and provide a benefit to
Eustis residents. He indicated it must also generate economic activity and
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improve the quality of life for Eustis residents. He reviewed the various ineligible
uses. He presented the application documents and explained what staff looks for
in reviewing the applications noting that some also request in-kind services. He
indicated the applicants are also required to estimate the economic impact to the
community and to detail what the funds will be used for. He reviewed what
additional documentation is required for submittal and explained how those may
vary from applicant to applicant. He explained a staff review committee reviews
the applications, presented a copy of the criteria and explained how the
applications are graded. He reviewed how the program is publicized and cited
those staff members who typically comprise the committee. He then stated that
the process is proposed to be changed as follows: 1) to include one Commissioner
on the review committee; 2) to separate out $15,000 from the overall $30,000 to
be awarded by the Commission; 3) to provide the grants on a reimbursement
basis rather than being paid upfront; 4) to require a follow-up report to the City
Commission; and 5) requiring recipients to provide volunteer hours to the
community. He then noted information provided regarding organizations that
previously received funding.
Commissioner Hawkins proposed that the overall grants remain at $30,000 with an
additional $15,000 to be awarded by the Commission. He also suggested that
each Commissioner be allowed $3,000 to award with an individual grant cap of
$500. He questioned how volunteer hours could be tracked and expressed
concern regarding using a reimbursement process. He also indicated that the
individual Commissioner awards still need to be agreed to by the rest of the
Commission.
Mr. Carrino responded he would not envision the $500 Commission awards to
require volunteer hours or be on a reimbursement basis. He explained how the
reimbursement process would work for the regular grants. He indicated that they
could determine a process for tracking the volunteer hours.
Commissioner Hawkins expressed concern regarding small organizations being
able to expend the funds and then be reimbursed with Mr. Carrino indicating the
organizations that applied last year were forewarned to be ready for that.
Discussion was held regarding the volunteer hours and how it would be applied to
the different organizations.
Commissioner Cobb commented on the financial statement requirement for grants
and possible longer range of financial lookback. She proposed the applicants be
required to submit what they are going to use the fund before approval and then
providing a performance report after. She expressed various concerns regarding
organizations being approved that are close to folding, organizations receiving
funds that have limited expenses so why do they need the grant and the same
organizations receiving funding year after year. She indicated she was
comfortable with leaving the amount at $30,000 and cited the limited amount of
revenues over expenditures for the next budget year. She asked that the
Commission be a larger part of the process in reviewing the financials.
Mike Sheppard, Finance Director, explained that there are a few of the
organizations that may have a hard time providing financial statements with the
Commission responding then they don't get funded. If they are a 501 (c)3 they are
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responsible for filing financials. It was emphasized that the Commission is
responsible for ensuring citizen tax dollars are spent responsibly.
Commissioner LeHeup-Smith and Vice Mayor Lee both expressed opposition to
increasing the funding to $45,000.
Vice Mayor Lee noted her previous experience with grants and emphasized the
need for the organizations providing reports and on the need for improved
accountability. She added that she was fine with going to reimbursement.
The Commission asked where the funds have come from when an organization,
such as Project Graduation, requests funding mid-year with Mr. Carrino
responding that the funds are usually found within the Commission or City
Manager budget. He noted those types of requests are generally only for $500 or
$1,000.
Vice Mayor Lee asked if staff could reserve some funds for last minute requests.
The Commission asked how much was spent for last minute requests and table
reservations with the Mayor noting that some of the table reservations are already
budgeted in the Commission budget.
Mr. Carrino explained he would have to go back and research to provide that
information.
Commissioner Cobb proposed restricting organizations to applying only every
other year; therefore, the City can possibly provide larger donations.
The Commission asked if the amount of the grant includes the in-kind services
with Mr. Carrino indicating that expense is just absorbed by the individual
department. It was asked whether or not the City tracks what exactly the City
expends for those in-kind services with Mr. Carrino responding negatively.
Craig Capri, Police Chief, recommended establishing a fund for tracking in-kind
services.
Discussion was held regarding how the program is publicized and the need to
require submittal of receipts. It was stated that the in-kind services need to be
incorporated as part of the grant as it is money the City is expending. They also
noted the amount of pay for an off-duty officer who may be handling traffic.
Mayor Holland announced that the Amazing Race for Charity may be ending as
the parent organization just ran their last race. He commented on the possibility of
adding this as part of another event citing the amount of people attracted to the
City and how the participants get to see other parts of the City.
Commissioner Cobb expressed support for leaving the amount at $30,000, no
additional funds for the Commissioners to award and requiring before and after
financials.
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Commissioner Hawkins expressed support for the Commission approving
whatever is awarded, changing to reimbursements, and requiring the financial
report. He stated he is not sure about requiring the volunteer hours and stated he
would like some funds money set aside for the Commission to award separate
from the grant process. He cited requests from high school organizations and the
need to support the high school.
Mayor Holland stated his support for seeing to the needs of the high school and
emphasized the importance of the future of kids and the schools. He indicated the
School Resource Officer program will pay dividends to the City for years to come.
Vice Mayor Lee agreed with reserving a portion to be used for mid-year requests.
She stated the need for accountability, receiving financial reports before and after
award and receipts after.
Further discussion was held regarding implementing the changes and then seeing
how many apply.
Mr. Carrino summarized that they would keep the total amount at $30,000 and
award $28,000 for the organizational grants which would leave $2,000 for the
Commission to award. He stated those awards would have to come to the
Commission for approval. Regarding the grant process, he stated they would
implement the reimbursement and the follow-up report to the Commission. He
indicated they would hold off on the volunteer hours and give that more thought.
Further discussion was held regarding limiting applicants to apply only every other
year as well as the number of organizations that know about the program. It was
agreed to allow organizations to apply every year and let the committee decide.
Discussion was held regarding the timing of the program with Mr. Carrino and Mr.
Sheppard stating it is usually opened prior to the end of the fiscal year with awards
to be provided after the new fiscal year begins.
Discussion was held regarding how the program is publicized. The Commission
reviewed the list of organizations and what has been approved in the past.
4. WORKSHOP ITEM: PARKS & RECREATION MASTER PLAN
4.1 Craig Dolan, Parks and Recreation Director, indicated he would be providing
information on the Mount Dora and Port St. Lucie master plans as samples with
Mr. Carrino indicating staff would provide the original documents electronically to
the Commission. He confirmed the Commission would rather hear the information
at the retreat rather than at the next budget workshop.
Mr. Dolan provided a brief overview of the purpose of a master plan and what it
would include. He explained it would be a year-long process and would include
multiple community meetings and meetings with various stakeholders to create
more buy in for the parks and recreation programs and events. He stated it would
provide an outside perspective on the City's parks system and recreation facilities
and programming. He further explained it would provide input on what to focus on,
what and where the City should invest in, whether they need to be the municipality
providing the event venue, and are the parks playgrounds adequate. After all of
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the input and meetings, the consultant will put it all together to show what the City
currently has and where it should be at and provide recommendations for
improvements over a ten-year period. He stated it would be a living document that
will be updated routinely as the City grows.
Mr. Dolan then explained the consultant would hold a kick off meeting, provide
data samples , facility cost and inventory data, park evaluations, review of athletic
facilities, communications and a final document. He stated they would hold
multiple interviews and conference calls, meetings with staff and Commissioners,
inventory of existing system with analysis to show what the City is doing well and
where they can improve, create surveys and send them out, review of impact fees,
comprehensive plan and land development regulations, provide a presentation on
the draft needs and priorities analysis and related costs, trails analysis including
best place, best practices for maintenance, funding and revenue projections,
implementation and action plan workshop, implementation strategy and
presentation of master plan to Commission .
Mr. Dolan then discussed a number of possible consultant companies with a brief
analysis of those entities. He cited prices paid by other cities for their master
plans.
Mr. Carrino indicated that no final decision needs to be made at that time. He
added they will provide copies to the Commission either electronically or by hard
copy. He then discussed the CCNA process for obtaining professional services.
He indicated it is similar to the RFQ process and explained they cannot discuss
the pricing upfront but after selecting a professional. He stated they could include
the amount budgeted for the project in the request and ask them to state what they
can provide for that amount noting that might not be the best approach. He
expressed support for conducting the master plan and acknowledged they need to
consider the amount to be budgeted. He stated the CIP will be reviewed on July
14th and they could discuss it at that time. He recommended doing something so
they have plans for the future.
Commissioner Hawkins noted that a large portion of the master plan involves
public participation and asked if they thought it would work.
Mr. Dolan was optimistic that the consultant would be able to encourage more
public participation through the multiple meetings with Mr. Carrino noting that
public participation varies. He noted that there have been a number of CRA
meetings that received good public participation.
Discussion was held regarding how to bring the community together. Mayor
Holland and Commissioner LeHeup-Smith explained a group of young people
attended a public meeting at the community center and asked for the skate park.
They commented on the excellent participation they received at that particular
meeting .
The Commission discussed whether or not staff could do the plan due to the high
cost while acknowledging the limited number of staff available. They discussed
combining the discussion about the trails as part of the process. Support was
expressed for a lower budget amount than $80,000.
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Mr. Dolan stated noted St. John's is a large county and they spent $76,000 seven
years ago so he expects to spend not less than $60,000. He indicated it is not a
large amount of money if you are expecting to spend millions of dollars in
improvements over the next ten years.
Commissioner Hawkins stated the master plan would take 1 to 1/2 years. He
noted they have had a request to have an indoor location for kids to play
basketball due to the heat and doing this would push it off again. He expressed
support for, in the short term, constructing a cover for the outdoor basketball court.
Mr. Carrino stated that the cover for the Carver Park basketball courts is included
in the CIP for next fiscal year based on previous discussion with the Commission.
He expressed support for discussing with the high school the possibility of utilizing
the Curtright Center gym. At the same time, they are moving up the shade
structure in the CIP for the Commission's consideration in the amount of $400,000
to be funded by the CRA.
Commissioner Cobb asked if they have reached out to the school board with Mr.
Carrino responding that the current discussions have been with Principal Clark.
Vice Mayor Lee asked if the master plan could include all of the City departments,
including housing, not just parks and recreation with Mr. Carrino responding that
the $80,000 is specifically for parks and recreation. He indicated that previously
the City hired Gladding Jackson to do a holistic Citywide review and it cost
hundreds of thousands. It was noted that it included the streetscape, Ferran Park,
2008 downtown plan, 2009 CRA plan, an overhaul of the Land Development
Regulations and Comprehensive Plan and the form-based code.
Mayor Holland noted that it took over two years to complete but much of it is still in
place.
Commissioner Cobb asked when the last time a cost analysis was done on the
City facilities including labor and indicated that could be done inhouse.
Mr. Sheppard stated that has not been done but could be.
Discussion was held regarding a need to conduct a bird's eye view of the entire
City before doing a revitalization of the downtown with Mr. Carrino stating that the
City will be asking the consultant on the Waterman redevelopment to do a larger
look at the entire downtown. He indicated it would depend on the consultant
selected to determine what might be obtained.
Commissioner Hawkins expressed support for conducting the master plan but not
at $80,000 with Mr. Dolan suggesting they ask the consultant selected to extend
the process over two fiscal years and break the cost into two fiscal years.
Commissioner Cobb asked to see the cost-analysis reports first with Mayor
Holland asking to receive electronic copies of both the Mount Dora and Port St.
Lucie master plans. Commissioner Hawkins asked to receive hard copies of the
reports.
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Commissioner LeHeup-Smith asked that an analysis of the planned trails and the
expansion/renovation of the Community Building be included. She asked if the
City has property on Trout Lake with Mr. Carrino indicating the City owns
conservation land on Trout Lake which is not utilized by the City but they allow
Trout Lake to utilize.
Discussion was held regarding whether or not a passive park or trails could be
developed there.
Mr. Dolan confirmed he would send the Mount Dora summary to the Commission
rather than the complete 300+ page report.
Mayor Holland announced that Vice Mayor Lee's mother passed away and
provided details regarding the funeral service. He noted that Dean Strickland, the
former City cemetery sexton, passed away and indicated he would provide to staff
the funeral services when received.
Vice Mayor Lee thanked everyone for their support in the loss of her mother.
5. ADJOURNMENT: 7:17 P.M.
*These minutes reflect the actions taken and portions of the discussion during the meeting. To review the entire discussion concerning any
agenda item, go to www.eustis.org and click on the video for the meeting in question. A DVD of the entire meeting or CD of the entire audio
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CHRISTINE HALLORAN
City Clerk Mayor/Commissioner
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