Everett Salary Commission
Regular MeetingEverett, WA · March 10, 2015
Minutes
EVERETT SALARY REVIEW COMMISSION MEETING
March 10, 2015, 1:00 PM
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8 Floor Planning Hearing Room
Those present:
Commission Members:
Chris Adams
John Dickson
Catherine Havener
Caroline Mason
Angie Sievers
Bobby Thompson
Art Thomson
City Staff:
Sharon DeHaan, Labor Relations/Human Resources Director
Joni Siewert, Labor Relations/Human Resources Department, minutes
Christina Wiersma, City Attorney’s Office
Deborah Wright, Executive Administrator
Guests:
Susy Haugen, Finance Manager/Treasurer
Scott Murphy, City Council
Ramsey Ramerman, City Attorney’s Office
The meeting commenced 1:00 PM.
Commission Chair Angie Sievers began the meeting by asking all at the table to introduce
themselves.
Appointment of new members
Bobby Thompson and Art Thomson are the new Commission-appointed members. Angie
Sievers called for a motion to officially appoint them to the Commission. Chris Adams so
moved, seconded by Bobby Thompson. The motion carried.
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Minutes from March 4, 2015 meeting
Angie Sievers asked the Commission to review the minutes from last week’s meeting. John
Dickson moved to approve the minutes, seconded by Catherine Havener. The motion carried.
Open Public Meetings Act, Public Records Act
Ramsey Ramerman
The package distributed at the beginning of the meeting contained a memorandum from Ramsey
Ramerman about the Open Public Meetings Act and the Public Records Act. He began his
presentation by saying that everything the Commission does will be a public record.
Ramsey Ramerman continued that any meeting of a governing body needs to be public. He
cautioned that any gathering involving a majority of the members discussing the Commission’s
business is a meeting, even going down in the elevator together and talking. He added that serial
meetings, a series of smaller gatherings when the majority is never together, are always illegal
under the Open Public Meetings Act.
A series of e-mails or texts can create a discussion, be considered a serial meeting, and violate
the law. Ramsey Ramerman advised that Salary Review Commission business should not be
discussed outside of the scheduled meetings. E-mail communication is acceptable for the City to
deliver information one-way, but “reply all” risks being considered a serial meeting, and he
discouraged it. He described e-mail as a good way to receive information, but not a good venue
for discussion.
Continuing to the Public Records Act, Ramsey Ramerman said any writing is a public record.
Any notes or marks on a handout distributed at a Commission meeting make it a public record.
He asked the members to copy Christina Wiersma on any e-mails on their personal accounts
dealing with Salary Commission business so the City has a record. As those e-mails will be from
the members’ own accounts, he advised they label the e-mails well to differentiate them from
their own e-mails so they can easily search for messages pertaining to Salary Commission
business. As long as Christina Wiersma has a copy of the e-mails they can be deleted from the
Commission member’s personal account as long as there is no pending request for public
disclosure. He encouraged the members to purge such e-mails and not keep them longer than
they have to. He added personal notes don’t have a retention value, so it is acceptable to destroy
them or turn them in to Christina Wiersma.
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2014 General Government Financial Results
Susy Haugen
Susy Haugen distributed a package of printed PowerPoint slides. The City’s General
Government revenue was just over $118 million in 2014, which was 103.3% higher than
budgeted. The 5 year outlook shows growing deficits over 5 years.
One of the items delineated on the revenue slide was property tax. Bobby Thompson asked
about property tax delinquency. Susy Haugen explained collection can be cyclical, some people
will not pay their taxes until they are almost in foreclosure with the County. She related that last
year a lot of back taxes were paid.
The presentation continued to expenditures. Susy Haugen said there will be revenues carried
forward to cover future expenses. John Dickson asked her to elaborate. She replied of about $10
million, more than half will be part of reappropriation requests. For example, large labor
contract contingencies have to be set aside because all six of the City’s labor agreements are in
negotiation. She also said the City needs to reserve for landslide issues, and there are tax refund
matters waiting for completion. There is $118 million in 2014 revenue, expenses are around
$108 million, so there is $10 million to carry forward. Of that, $5 million will be reapproriated,
and $5 million will be for Council to make a decision. She added that the City has eliminated 40
employment positions, and 43 are currently vacant.
Caroline Mason asked if actions have been taken to increase revenue. Susy Haugen replied
utility tax on electricity, natural gas, and telephone was increased from 4% to 6%. Also utility
tax on garbage and cable will increase by 2% annually until it reaches 6% in 2017. Business
license fees have increased and are now renewable. It used to be a City of Everett business
license was $10 lifetime. Now it is renewable and $75. The City also took back animal
licensing from the County, and is increasing planning and mitigation fees.
Art Thomson asked if the City tracks CPI. Susy Haugen replied the City uses CPI June to June,
Seattle/Tacoma/Bremerton-Urban. It ran 2% this year, and has been running low. A few years
ago it was actually negative. The current estimate is 2%, and from what she reads it’s running
lower than that.
Susy Haugen added that jail costs will more than double, so that will cost another $500,000.
Because of interest expressed, she will provide the Commission with expenditures from last year.
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Salary comparison data
Sharon DeHaan
Sharon DeHaan distributed salary comparison information, showing City of Everett positions the
Salary Commission is reviewing alongside other cities. She pointed out all the City of Everett
elected officials pay 10% of their medical premiums.
Mayor
Regarding the position of Mayor, Sharon DeHaan pointed out the City of Everett has a full-time
Mayor, and the full-time Mayors listed on the comparison sheet are elected by the public.
Some entities have a City Manager who runs the City’s business and reports to the Council, in
which case the Mayor’s position is more ceremonial. Some of those Mayors actually serve on
the Council. The City Manager is hired for professional expertise, it is not an elected position.
Caroline Mason noted Everett’s Mayor receives a car allowance. She asked if the Salary
Commission is to address car allowance. Sharon DeHaan replied no, it is set by ordinance.
City Council
Moving to the City Council comparison sheet, Sharon DeHaan stated the City of Everett has part
-time Council members, so there are not any comparables listed with full-time City Council
members. She also brought to the Commission’s attention that Shoreline, Seattle, and
Vancouver’s information is out of date because they have not replied to Everett’s request for
information yet, and Seattle’s salary is there only for information purposes because the
Councilmembers are full-time.
John Dickson asked about requirements of meetings for City Councils. Sharon DeHaan replied
most meet once a week. In some places like Lynnwood members’ pay gets docked if they don’t
attend a meeting. Caroline Mason gave the example that on the School Board members are paid
$50 a day for days they work regardless of how many hours are worked, but there is a
predetermined limit.
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Municipal Court Judges
Regarding Municipal Court Judges, Sharon DeHaan related they are historically tied to State
District Court Judge salaries. Each Salary Commission has chosen to continue with that
arrangement, but it is not required.
Miscellaneous salaries
Moving to a sheet showing miscellaneous salary data, Sharon DeHaan explained the Snohomish
County PUD, County executive positions, and State executive positions are provided for
information purposes only. She pointed out the PUD has about the same employee count as the
City of Everett, but the PUD executive positions pay much more. She added the State Citizens
Salary Review Commission is also meeting right now.
City labor groups COLA history
In response to a request from last week’s meeting, Sharon DeHaan reviewed a sheet of COLA
history for all the City’s labor groups.
Catherine Havener asked if the Commission could be provided with what COLA is being offered
to the bargaining groups. Sharon DeHaan replied no because negotiations are ongoing, and the
figures may be different between the groups depending upon benefits.
Community income
In response to another request from last week, Sharon DeHaan distributed a sheet of income for
community households in the past 12 months obtained from the Planning Department. Bobby
Thompson asked for difference of family households. Chris Adams requested the last 5 years of
data. Sharon DeHaan explained the staff member who worked on this project found County
numbers on-line. Bobby Thompson said the HUD and Census websites should be helpful. Chris
Adams asked for employment projections within the City limits, how many people are employed
within the City of Everett and at what positions they are employed. The Commission wants to
know what is happening in the inside of a household in the City. Sharon DeHaan said she would
go back to the Planning Department for assistance with the data requests.
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City Council duties
Chris Adams said he was unsure how to measure City Council duties. Scott Murphy offered that
he has been on the City Council 3 years. Each Councilmember is a liaison to 3 to 5 committees
or departments. He is on the Budget Committee, and as such he interacts with all departments.
Christina Wiersma offered to provide the Committee with the liaison list. Scott Murphy added
that the liaison assignments are made by the Council President on an annual basis. Chris Adams
requested the last 3 to 5 years of liaison assignments.
John Dickson said there was uncertainty because they do not know the duties of
Councilmembers in other jurisdictions. Catherine Havener asked if there is any legal
requirement for Councilmembers to attend meetings, Sharon DeHaan replied no. Scott Murphy
said Council meetings range in length, and estimated that the average is 2 hours.
Next meeting
On the agenda will be questions about today’s presentations, and discussion of elected officials’
duties.
The meeting adjourned 2:20 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Joni Siewert
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Agenda
AGENDA
Everett Citizens Commission on Salaries of Elected Officials
Tuesday, March 10, 2015
1 to 2 p.m.
Eighth floor hearing room
Wall Street Building
2930 Wetmore Ave, Everett
1. Introductions, announcements, and appointment of nominated
members
2. Review and approval of minutes from March 4, 2015 meeting
3. Review timeline and tentative public hearing dates
4. Open Public Meetings Act/Public Records Act, Ramsey Ramerman,
Assistant City Attorney
5. City financial update, Susy Haugen, Finance department
6. Salary comparison survey, Sharon DeHaan, HR Director
7. Discussion
8. Next meeting date: 2 p.m. Wednesday, March 18
9. Adjourn
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