Everett Salary Commission
Regular MeetingEverett, WA · March 18, 2015
Minutes
EVERETT SALARY REVIEW COMMISSION MEETING
March 18, 2015, 2:00 PM
Mayor’s Conference Room
Those present:
Commission Members:
Chris Adams
Catherine Havener
Caroline Mason
Angie Sievers
Bobby Thompson
Art Thomson
Excused:
John Dickson
City Staff:
Sharon DeHaan, Labor Relations/Human Resources Director
Joni Siewert, Labor Relations/Human Resources Department, minutes
Christina Wiersma, City Attorney’s Office
Deborah Wright, Executive Administrator
Guests:
Scott Murphy, City Council
Deb Williams, City Council Office
The meeting commenced 2:13 PM.
Minutes from March 4, 2015 meeting
Commission Chair Angie Sievers explained the minutes from March 4 contain an inaccuracy.
Under Commission Appointments on Page 2 it states the term is 2 years, when actually it is 4
years in length. She asked for a motion to correct. Caroline Mason so moved, Bobby Thompson
seconded. The motion carried.
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Information from Councilmember Scott Murphy
In response to questions asked at the March 10 Commission meeting, Councilmember Scott
Murphy distributed lists of liaison assignments going back 15 years. He also had requested a
history of time commitments and committee assignments from his fellow Councilmembers, and
distributed written responses from Council President Scott Bader and Councilmember Brenda
Stonecipher.
Councilmember Murphy consulted other cities’ websites to address the question from last week
about comparison to peer groups. He found that most city councils are required to meet twice a
month, with optional session meetings that can be scheduled in between. He gave specifics on
those cities listed on the Council comparison sheet distributed last week:
Bellevue 1st and 3rd Mondays, also study sessions 1st and 3rd Mondays; extended study
sessions 2nd and 4th Mondays
Bellingham 2nd and 4th Mondays
Federal Way 1st and 3rd Tuesdays for regular business
Kent 1st and 3rd Tuesdays
Lynnwood 2nd & 4th Mondays, also work sessions as necessary on 1st and 3rd Mondays
and on 3rd Wednesdays
Marysville 2nd and 4th Mondays, also scheduled work sessions; recess the entire month of
August
Renton 1st 2nd 4th Mondays
Shoreline weekly on Mondays 7 PM
Vancouver 1st thru 4th Mondays except holidays, no less than 2 Mondays per month
Yakima 1st and 3rd Tuesdays
Everett 52 weeks per year
Spokane 1st 3rd and 5th Mondays of the month
Councilmember Murphy pointed out only Shoreline has a weekly meeting like Everett. He also
reviewed for the Commission what the City Charter says about absences of the Mayor or City
Council members.
Minutes from March 10, 2015 meeting
Angie Sievers asked the Commission to approve the minutes from last week’s meeting. Chris
Adams moved to approve the minutes, seconded by Art Thomson. The motion carried.
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Distribution of additional information
Sharon DeHaan distributed updated salary charts including the 3 jurisdictions that didn’t respond
by last week, Shoreline, Seattle, and Vancouver. She also referenced attachments sent
electronically with this week’s agenda. One was a document assembled by Susy Haugen in
response to last week’s question on forecasting the budget for Council. There were also several
pages of demographic material provided for comparative economic characteristics.
City Council discussion
Angie Sievers opened the meeting to discussion. Chris Adams said he sees the Commission’s
job as documenting what City residents are going through, what’s going on inside households
inside Everett. He said it was hard to give raises when household incomes aren’t being raised.
Bobby Thompson thought at the bare minimum Council needs to get a COLA increase this year.
He said the City has withstood the economic downturn, and COLA started coming back to the
City in 2013 for the Appointive employees. Art Thomson agreed aligning with City employees
makes sense.
Chris Adams asked why there was a 5.8 % increase for both Council and Mayor in 2009. Sharon
DeHaan replied that year COLA came in unexpectedly high, and added the City looks at the June
to June index. Catherine Havener asked what the index is now, Sharon DeHaan said about 2%.
Bobby Thompson expressed the opinion he doesn’t think the COLA increase is out of proportion
to the rest if the City. He is sensitive to the population, doesn’t want to do something
disproportionate. But he is also sensitive to the fact that Council has received only one increase
in the last five years.
Caroline Mason said that Council is difficult to examine, as its members are definitely paid on
the higher end. But she considers what they are paid for the work they do. The work is more
than meetings, there are hours and hours of reading documents. She finds their being paid on the
higher end is not such a big factor for her.
Catherine Havener asked Scott Murphy if he has any insight into comparing Everett
demographics to cities like Renton. Are there factors that justify a higher salary?
Councilmember Murphy replied he doesn’t have an answer for that.
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Chris Adams said from a duty perspective Everett is unique. The City has a small economic
development department, and has a huge base of employment. Council and Mayor are asked to
go out and make connections, and you can see the results with attracting higher education
facilities and the 777. He said you can’t compare Everett to Seattle, our economic base is
different. Everett relies on its elected officials to go out and do things, and people who meet
twice a month don’t fall into the same category.
Chris Adams continued there are different philosophies about elected officials. He said there are
people in Olympia who think politicians should be higher paid and full-time so they’re not just
retired people. He wondered if it would be valuable to articulate a discussion on attracting
quality officials for the long term.
Art Thomson referred to the City Council goals for 2015 as presented in the budget document
that was shared as part of this week’s agenda package. He said it was important Council identify
those goals, and added Council’s members can be counted upon to do that. Bobby Thompson
described the document as a summary page of goals, objectives and accomplishments, and asked
if there is backup information broken down to a more measurable level. Councilmember
Murphy replied it is indeed a summary document, and suggested part of what the Commission
members will want to look at is liaison assignments. He said there are some big profile groups
Council is involved with such as AWC, Puget Sound Clean Air, and Sound Transit. He added
Councilmember Moore is down in Olympia today testifying to a committee, otherwise he would
be here.
Caroline Mason asked if Council approves the budget. Councilmember Murphy replied yes, by
Charter. The City is required to have an annual balanced budget. This past year was harder than
normal because of SDAT. A lot of different ideas came forward that had to get boiled down.
Chris Adams asked Councilmember Murphy about his role with the Snohomish County Health
District. He replied he is a member of the Health District Board which has 15 members,
including all five County Council members and representatives from ten cities throughout the
County. He added the Health District has had to reduce staff 40% over the past few years. The
Board meets monthly.
Art Thomson asked if medical is part of the discussion. Sharon DeHaan replied the subject could
be discussed, but benefits are established by ordinance. Art Thomson reflected the benefits are
substantial, over 50% of salary, and the Councilmembers are part-time. Sharon DeHaan clarified
elected officials pay 10% of their medical premium.
Councilmember Murphy said what is different about Everett’s structure is the issue of committee
as a whole vs. subcommittees. Chris Adams asked if he estimated his hours as close to what is in
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the letters from Council President Bader and Councilmember Stonecipher. Councilmember
Murphy replied it depends on liaison assignments and varies during the week, and that sitting at
the Council meeting is a small percentage of it. Angie Sievers observed the Council members
receive a binder and they read what is in it before the meeting.
Chris Adams said 15-20 hours per week is high part-time, and he believes Council members
should receive at least a COLA adjustment. Bobby Thompson asked for bullet points for their
reasoning, because they’re going to have to support their decision.
Caroline Mason said budget forecasting is difficult, how do the Commission members know
what to budget. But the Commission sets salary based on work the elected officials are asked to
do, budget is not the Commission’s responsibility. If they were to recommend a COLA it would
be in line with other contracts. For example, the Everett School District has signed contracts in
the 2-3% range lately.
Chris Adams clarified with Sharon DeHaan, they are a Citizen Commission that actually makes
the decision, not just make a recommendation. Bobby Thompson advocated measurables. Angie
Sievers wondered if there will be changes in responsibilities due to changes in the community in
the next couple of years.
Caroline Mason asked if others in City employment will get raises. Sharon DeHaan replied that
is the presumption. Art Thomson cautioned there is a high level of low income people in the
City of Everett.
Councilmember Murphy clarified the City has not been running at a deficit, it has been able to
carry forward surpluses. Last year things came to a head, officials cannot continue to run the
City unless drastic changes made, that’s what a lot of the work was last year. There is more work
to do, as the projections over the next 5 years show. Sharon DeHaan added the law is clear, the
City has to have a balanced budget. Chris Adams clarified the forecasting is projecting deficits
in the future, the City is not running deficits now. Councilmember Murphy agreed. He said the
City is conservative, it never knows what revenues will be coming in, and there is a lot of work
left to do.
Catherine Havener said she feels comfortable recommending COLA, as the Commission can say
here’s what regular folks are getting as well.
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Municipal Court Judges discussion
Caroline Mason recalled from the Commission’s activities two years ago they looked at Judges’
salaries, and decided to continue following the State schedule. She wondered if that would be
the easiest decision for them to make if they do the same again. She asked if historically there
has been any waiver from that practice, Sharon DeHaan replied no. Caroline Mason said to look
at them getting 3%, if they go down that path there’s a number for discussion. Christina
Wiersma said Judge Laura Van Slyck plans to attend the April 8 meeting. Deb Williams added
Council President Scott Bader and Councilmember Judy Tuohy will come to the April 8 meeting
as well.
Chris Adams credited Judge Van Slyck for her work on the Streets Initiative, and other programs
like Drug Court and expanded programs of the Municipal Court. Councilmember Murphy added
the budget has been increased to make both Judges full-time.
Next Meeting
The next meeting is April 8, 1:00 PM, 8th Floor Planning Conference Room. Chairperson
Sievers asked the Commission members to think of pros and cons in the meantime.
The meeting adjourned 3:00 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
Joni Siewert
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Agenda
AGENDA
Everett Citizens Commission on Salaries of Elected Officials
Wednesday, March 18, 2015
2 to 3 p.m.
Tenth floor Mayor’s Conference room
Wall Street Building
2930 Wetmore Ave, Everett
1. Call meeting to order
2. Review and approval of minutes from March 10, 2015 meeting
3. Questions/Discussion/Comments by Elected Officials (if present)
4. Salary comparison survey follow ups and question/answer, Sharon
DeHaan, HR director
5. Discussion of Salary Schedule
6. Next meeting date: 1 p.m., Wednesday, April 8 (Planning/Hearing
Room)
7. Adjourn
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