City Council Meetings and Work Sessions
Regular MeetingExcelsior, MN · March 19, 2018
Minutes
City of Excelsior
City Council Meeting
MINUTES
Monday, March 19, 2018
5:30 P.M.
1. CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Gaylord opened the meeting at 5:35 pm.
2. ROLL CALL
Present: Councilmember Beattie, Carlson, Caron, Miller, and Mayor
Gaylord
Absent: None
Planning
Commissioners: Harrison, DiLorenzo, Kirschner, Craig, Holste,
And Chairperson Wallace
Also Present: City Manager Luger, City Attorney Staunton, Public Works
Superintendent Amundsen, Planning Director Smith,
Consulting City Planner Richards, City Clerk Orlofsky
3. OATH OF OFFICE
(a) Planning Commission – Kate Holste
Mayor Gaylord conducted the oath of office for Planning Commissioner
Kate Holste.
4. JOINT MEETING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION
(a) Comprehensive Plan Update
Smith provided the background information on the Comprehensive Plan
Update. He reported that the Comprehensive Plan is about 90% done.
Chairperson Wallace explained that the other 10% that is left of the
Comprehensive Plan is the finetuning, formatting, and completing
of the charts.
Kirshner explained that some of the Planning Commissioners felt that
there was not enough time to go through the Comprehensive Plan. They
wished they had more time to develop the character of Excelsior
within the Comprehensive Plan.
(a) Comprehensive Plan Update - Continued
Harrison added that she also felt that the Comprehensive Plan was
rushed. She explained that the City Council has given the Planning
Commission so many different projects to study that they were not
able to apply their full attention to the Comprehensive Plan
Gaylord asked staff where the 20-year timeframe came from.
Smith explained that the Met Council always provides 20 years
Projections? Smith added that the Council and Commission can still
continue to plan for 10 years or whatever timeframe they decide.
Luger explained that the City can request a time extension but that
does not mean that the Met Council will grant it. Luger suggested
that the City could submit the Comprehensive Plan as is, as
most of the plan is complete, and continue to work through the
chapters and submit the revisions as they proceed.
Smith agreed that the Met Council does allow Cities to notify and
submit changes as they go.
Richards added that there was a certain amount of changes that
the Met Council wanted to see updated in the 10-year plan and staff
took it one step further and updated the plan even more.
Luger added that the Council made the decision to proceed with a
simple update of the Comprehensive Plan without a Steering
Committee because the City is fully developed and is not changing
much.
Caron added that she agrees with the Planning Commission and
that she is happy the Commission is having the discussion on where
this City should be in the next 10 years. Caron asked the
Commissioners to take the time to do a side by side review of the
Comprehensive Plan to make sure that key items were not missed.
Caron shared that the Chamber has approached the City Council to
investigate developing the City parking lots to include some more
commercial property. The Commission should start talking about
those kind of ideas to help the Council determine what that should
look like.
(a) Comprehensive Plan Update - Continued
Carlson explained that the Comprehensive Plan is a road map to the
community. There are not a lot of major changes due to the City
being fully developed but there will be minor changes. The City
Council relies on the input from the community for those changes.
Miller echoed Carlson’s concerns and thanked the Commission for all
the hard work they have been doing and that they have been
dealing with a lot of stuff.
Miller also thanked the Planning Commission for their hard work on
the East Side Study. Miller thought the Council received some
positive feedback and interaction during that process.
Craig explained that the last time the Council went through the
Comprehensive Planning process the Planning Commission and
Council held meetings with the public, which allowed for more voices.
Kirschner added that Craig was right that the Comprehensive Plan
was missing the community voice.
Harrison explained that she did not feel the Comprehensive Plan had
the vision that the community wanted. She thanked staff for
updating the Comprehensive Plan, but wished they had more
time.
Gaylord stated that he believed the City had a solid
Comprehensive Plan and that the City should continue to submit the
Comprehensive Plan on time, and possibly as an alternative, the City
Council and Planning Commission can continue to work on
amendments to the plan.
DiLorenzo explained that they have a highly functional Planning
Commission and the less time they spend contradicting themselves
the better. DiLorenzo added that perhaps some key audiences were
missed, but the City has a good general Comprehensive Plan. He
would like the Commission to submit the plan and continue to
develop the character within the Comprehensive Plan.
Gaylord asked the Planning Commission to focus on the lake front
and the empty property near the Port and the movie theatre.
Miller would like the City Council to consider improving City Hall.
Changes need to be made and he would like the Council to consider
the options.
(a) Comprehensive Plan Update - Continued
Caron said she would make copies of her notes of the
Comprehensive Plan for the Planning Commissioners to review.
Beattie explained that the process for amending the Comprehensive
Plan involves a super majority vote of the Council. So, the notion of
amending the Comprehensive Plan could be problematic if four of
the five Councilmembers must be satisfied.
Kirschner talked about the concerns with density and asked the City
Council that if the majority was leaning towards more density, they
should let the Planning Commission know.
Miller explained that density is an area of concern for him because
Excelsior has more affordable housing then any city around us.
Miller feels that Excelsior’s density has been fulfilled.
Kirschner asked if the City Council landed on a definition for low,
medium, and high density.
Staff explained that high density is 18 units per acre. The plan
should reflect the definition and to not push high density.
DiLorenzo added that the Council and Commission disagree about
density.
Beattie asked if the City Council requested an extension for the
Comprehensive Plan would the Met Council grant it.
Richards believed the Met Council would grant an extension for a
year.
Staunton added that the Met Council’s website states that
Communities can request an extension on the Comprehensive Plan
for up to 12 months, but it needs to be submitted by May.
Richards reminded the Commission that the Met Council is looking at
the big picture and he thought the large items in the Comprehensive
Plan should be submitted now because those will not change.
(a) Comprehensive Plan Update - Continued
Staunton further explained that the Met Council’s focus is to plan for
sewage treatment, transportation, and the big picture items. They do
not get wrapped up in the character/visionary plan of the City.
Wallace added that he personally feels as though this document is a
good document going forward, so he does not find as much value in
looking back at what they wanted 10 years ago compared to what the
vision of the current body of the Planning Commission and Council
wants.
Luger suggested to add it to the Planning Commission and Council’s
yearly goals to continue to refine the Comprehensive Plan. That way
the City Council can approve it and continue to tweak it, which
would allow everyone the time to study and focus on the vision.
Caron agreed that if it is a goal, that it gets started right away. Caron
added that the Council needs to commit and support the Planning
Commission.
DiLorenzo agreed that the Planning Commission should continue
forward and deliver what they committed to the City Council and then
come back and meet to review the vision. The Planning Commission
will commit to more meetings to get through the extra items.
Beattie moved, Carlson seconded, to adjourn the Joint Meeting with
the Planning Commission and continue with the Regular City Council
Meeting. Motion carried 5/0.
5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
(a) Regular City Council Meeting of March 5, 2018
Beattie moved, Carlson seconded, to approve the Regular City Council
Meeting Minutes as amended. Motion carried 5/0.
6. OPEN FORUM
7. CITY COUNCIL COMMUNICATION, QUESTION, and REPORTS
(a) Dock Extension Update
Amundsen reported that the dock extension is complete.
8. AGENDA APPROVAL
(a) Meeting Agenda
Beattie moved, Carlson seconded, to approve the agenda. Motion
carried 5/0.
(b) Consent Agenda
Beattie moved, Carlson seconded, to move item 15(a) Variance from
Building Moratorium – 428 Williams Street to Item 9(b) and to add
Item 15(a) HPC Appointment to the regular agenda. Motion carried
5/0.
9. (a) SINGLE – FAMILY SCALE STANDARDS
City Council directed staff to continue to research.
(b) VARIANCE FROM BUILDING MORATORIUM – 428 WILLIAMS STREET
Mark Stanga, 428 William Street, addressed the City Council.
Beattie moved, Miller second, to approve the request for variance from
the building moratorium for the proposed plans dated January 8, 2018.
Motion carried 3/2, with Caron and Carlson opposed.
10. PUBLIC HEARING
(a) Second Reading of Small Cell Wireless Technology (PC No. 17-15)
Mayor Gaylord opened the public hearing at 8:23 p.m.
Hearing no comments, the Public Hearing was closed at 8:24 p.m.
Carlson moved, Beattie seconded, to waive the second reading
of the Small Cell Wireless Technology. Motion carried 5/0.
11. PETITIONS, REQUEST and COMMUNICATIONS
(a) Fourth Quarter Review of Place of Last Drink Information
Police Chief Meehan, addressed the City Council.
Brian Farrell, Property Owner of Haskell’s, addressed the City Council.
Katie Miceli, Manager of Haskell’s, addressed the City Council.
12. ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
(a) First Reading of the Construction Hours Ordinance
Beattie moved, Carlson seconded, to waive the first reading of Ordinance
No. 577, Construction Hours and schedule the second reading for the
April 2, 2018 City Council Meeting. Motion Carried 4/1, with Caron
opposed.
13. REPORTS OF OFFICERS, BOARDS, and COMMITTEES
(a) None
14. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
(a) None
15. NEW BUSINESS
(a) HPC Appointments to Advisory Commissions
Carlson moved, Caron seconded, to approve Wynne Reece for
appointment to the Heritage Preservation Commission. Motion carried
5/0.
16. ADJOURNMENT
Beattie Moved, Miller seconded, to adjourn the meeting at 8:57 pm.
Motion carried 5/0.
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