Recreation & Parks Advisory Board
Regular MeetingFalls Church, VA · September 3, 2014
Minutes
Regular Meeting of the Advisory Board of Recreation and Parks
Held at the Falls Church Community Center
223 Little Falls Street, Falls Church, Virginia 22046
DRAFT Minutes
September 3, 2014
1. Call to Order
Ms. Chandler called the meeting to order at 7:05p.m.
Members present were Kathy Chandler, Lori Lafave, Robert Meeks, Charley O’Hara, Leslie
Rye, and Steve Selby. Staff members present were Danny Schlitt, Director of Recreation &
Parks, Amy Maltese, Senior Program Supervisor and Ashley Williams, Senior Administrative
Assistant. There were also 17 members of the Falls Church community present in support of the
West End Park public meeting.
2. West End Park Public Meeting
Mr. Schlitt opened the meeting by reviewing the planning, approval, and construction timeline of
West End Park. The highlights of the park include the new entrance with a gateway feature, the
trash receptacles, the storm water management and rain garden systems, the skateboard friendly
art feature, and the pathway that circles the park. It has been a very long process, but council has
approved CIP funding and the planning process is nearly complete.
There were no comments from the board members regarding the park. The floor was opened to
the public for questions, comments, and concerns.
(See Attachment A for public commentary.)
The public portion of the meeting was adjourned at 7:50p.m.
3. Minutes
Mr. Schlitt offered the option to approve the minutes from June 4th at the upcoming October 1st
meeting in light of saving time. The board agreed with the decision to approve the June minutes
at the October meeting.
4. New Business
a. Miller House – Dana Lewis, Housing Program Analyst of Housing and Human
Services
Housing and Human Services is in support of demolishing a N Washington
Street property to build a group home for 4-6 people with intellectual
disabilities. Ms. Lewis is requesting that written feedback of her proposal be
provided to City Council by the Advisory Board no later than September 15th.
Although a discussion regarding the matter commenced, no motion was
proposed resulting in no action being taken.
b. Comprehensive Planning – Paul Stoddard, Senior Planner with the Department of
Developmental Services
Mr. Stoddard provided a presentation which addressed the following questions
in park planning: Why are we doing this? How can we implement
comprehensive planning faster? Are we addressing the priorities of the
community?
Please see his PowerPoint presentation for more detailed information.
8. Adjournment
Mr. O’Hara moved to adjourn the meeting. Mr. Selby seconded the motion. Following a
unanimous voice vote, the meeting was adjourned at 9:30 p.m.
The City of Falls Church is committed to the letter and spirit of the Americans with Disabilities
Act. This document will be made available in alternate format upon request. Call 703-248-5027
(TTY 711).
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Attachment A
West End Park
Public Hearing
September 3, 2014
General Comments
Mark Massey – 203 Grove Avenue
Storm water drainage is a huge functional issue on the Grove Avenue side of the park. To
resolve this, a ditch filled with gravel was dug out 15 years ago to keep water from flooding into
nearby homes. Unfortunately this ditch is no longer effective and has once again become
detrimental to nearby property owners. The land is very mucky and dangerous to walk on, and
affected neighbors have had to brace their fences as the land no longer supports them. The desire
for a solution was supported by a number of meeting attendees.
Jonathan Stern – 203 Grove
If the goal of the park is to create a space for teens, the skate park is not an effective feature to
add as it is not something that is of interest to high schoolers. Overall the popularity of
skateboarding has decreased. In 2006 there were 10.1 million skateboarders; there are currently
only 6 million today. Investing $80,000 would ultimately be a waste of resources.
There is a great concern that the planned skateboard feature (particularly with it being located on
West Broad) will attract unnecessary and undesired attention to the neighborhood park. This is
already an issue as park users currently do not heed park closure times and the noise levels affect
surrounding neighbors. Users also do not respect the space as there is often litter throughout the
park that gets cleaned up by surrounding homeowners.
Kathy Kleiman – 203 Grove
The original plan for the park was to offer a space and resource for high school aged kids,
however, now high schoolers do not skateboard. This age group needs more things along the
lines of tables and chairs to “hang out” as opposed to the skateboard feature. There should be an
effort to save the mulberry tree. Please do not remove the Route 7 buffers currently in place as
they create an important noise barrier. The park should be named in honor of Harry English.
(Many neighbors support this suggestion.)
Kate Klemic- 1002 Jennifer Lane###
In response to Sam Stern’s stats, stated that her child as well as all of his friends would love to
have skateboard features in the park and would think that since the children use the park when
coming home from school would enjoy using the equipment on their way home every day.
Madeline English – 315 Grove Avenue
There are concerns regarding the cost of the skateboard feature and who will actually be paying
for it. There are opinions that the funds invested in this feature would be better used in support
of the sewage system instead. It is believed that this skateboard feature will bring about hefty
maintenance fees, pressure to eventually install a lighting system, and a necessity for an
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insurance policy for the city to support this feature. There is also a concern of congested parking
if the skateboard feature happens to attract a lot of visitors, and how to enforce the park hours
given the potential of increased traffic.
Madeline Smith – 320 Grove
Overall the community is very enthusiastic to finally complete the park, and as soon as possible.
Lindy Hockenberry – Planning Commission
After surveying a number of middle school and high school students, although the majority of
the high school students did not show much interest in the skateboard feature, well over 50% of
middle school students surveyed showed great excitement for its arrival and skateboarding as a
sport. Lindy also mentioned that an ongoing survey of middle school students at MEH was
taking place to determine the childrens reaction to the potential of a few skateboard features.
Drew Walter – 300 Sycamore
A swing set would be a great addition for the playground. (Other members of the community
support this suggestion.) Although skateboarding may not be very popular right now, activities
are usually cyclical and likely to become popular again. The skateboard feature is a great idea
for the older kids of the community.
Brad Mills – 304 Grove
The park is long overdue. The vines have overtaken the park, closed it in, and have made it very
unsafe to the point where even the high school students will not use it. These updates will make
for a safer walk for many of the community’s students. Brad also mentioned that while his
children do not skateboard, the features will most likely be a good addition to the park for the
children and students that frequent the park.
Waller – Offut Drive
An entrance connected to Falls Avenue would be a great addition to avoid the dangerously
muddy hill climb.
Justin Ordell – 204 N. Spring
As the surrounding homeowners often take the time to clean the park currently, there are hopes
for a system to prevent trash that the park inherits due to patrons who use the car wash (and
potentially those using the skateboard feature as well). More places to sit and enjoy the park
would be beneficial. Things such as built in chess and checker boards would be a great addition.
Citizen -Jennifer Lane
Currently the park is not cleaned frequently enough. This renovation is a great project to get
park maintenance on track. The ring shaped path is an awesome idea, particularly for kids riding
bikes and dog walking and brings cohesiveness to the park. It would be nice if the older kids had
a place to hang out that is away from the younger children so they don’t monopolize the
playground.
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Other General Comments
After speaking with a number of people in the neighborhood, no one wants a skateboard park.
Everybody believes it would be better for the park to be an open space. (This was said at the
beginning of the meeting. By the end of the meeting, this commenter was generally happy that
the skateboard feature was not large and obtrusive or expected to attract unnecessary traffic and
parking issues.)
Overall the concern for the water drainage issue was echoed throughout the attendees along with
naming the park after Harry English.
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Agenda
AGENDA
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ADVISORY BOARD OF RECREATION AND PARKS TO
FALLS CHURCH COMMUNITY CENTER
223 LITTLE FALLS STREET, FALLS CHURCH, VIRGINIA 22046
September 3, 2014
7:00 P.M.
1. Call To Order
2. Receipt of Public Petitions and Board Member Petitions
3. Minutes for Approval: June 4, 2014
4. Directors report (no report this month)
5. New Business
a) Public Open House regarding West End Park (45 minute maximum)
b) Miller House Discussion, presented by Nancy Vincent with Human Services (10 minutes)
c) Comp. Plan review process. (Paul Stoddard, with members from the planning commission) 8 pm.
6. Old Business
7. Other Business
8. Adjournment
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