Citizen Police Advisory Committee
Regular MeetingFarmington, NM · November 18, 2014
Minutes
CITIZEN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES
November 18, 2014
7:00 p.m.
The Citizen Police Advisory Committee met in regular session on Tuesday, November 18, 2014,
at 7:00 p.m. in the Executive Conference Room at City Hall, 800 Municipal Drive, Farmington,
New Mexico, 87401.
Members Present: Deb Dumont, Chairman; Chuck Culpepper, Lisa Martin;
Patricia Simpson; Steve Grey
Members Absent: Rose Maez
City Personnel Present: Steve Hebbe, Police Chief
Pat Flores, Internal Affairs Sergeant
Jason Eley, Assistant City Attorney
Kim Parrish, Administrative Assistant
Guests Present: “Families United for Justice” Hispanic Group
I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Deb Dumont at 7:00 p.m., and there
being a quorum of members present, the following proceedings were duly had and
taken.
II. MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS
Chuck Culpepper moved to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of
September 16, 2014 as presented. Patricia Simpson seconded the motion. Motion
carried.
III. CHIEF’S REPORT
Chief Hebbe gave an overview of the incident that had happened with the Evidence
Technician and the investigation that took place. They did an audit and are working
to make the evidence room more secure, such as adding cameras. They are also
changing many procedures and policies. They also had the CALEA mock assessment
recently to help prepare for the actual assessment in the spring. He mentioned that
Deputy Chief Vince Mitchell will be retiring at the end of the year, so he’ll be
looking at the overall structure of the department to see if anything needs to be
changed. He also stated that they have been doing a good job at recruiting, and are
very close to being full-staffed.
IV. INTERNAL AFFAIRS REPORT
Sgt. Pat Flores gave an overview of the September and October Internal Affairs
reports. He said that they are slowing transitioning to the electronic system, which
should help speed up the turnover rate for how quickly the cases get processed. He
said there were 8 new citizen complaints for the month of October. There were also
3 new internal investigations. He stated that case numbers are just above the yearly
average for this time of year. Patricia Simpson mentioned all of the news
surrounding the Albuquerque Police Department and wondered if Farmington was
seeing that and trying to duplicate it here in Farmington. Sgt. Flores stated that they
have a training officer who has been monitoring reports, and implementing steps in
our training to make sure that doesn’t happen here in Farmington.
V. NEW BUSINESS
a. MEMBERS – None.
b. CITIZEN INPUT – Representatives from the Hispanic group “Families United for
Justice” attended the meeting. Lusita Dominguez and Arely Caro addressed the
committee. They discussed the presence of ICE (Immigration and Customs
Enforcement) in the community, and how they feel that ICE and Farmington PD
are threatening their trust in the police. In their minds, police equals
immigration. They have seen their families separated, and there is the
perception that if they get stopped by police, they will be deported. They
understand that ICE is just doing their job, but their laws are very complex and
they don’t want their families to be separated. They mentioned one of their
members, Ricardo, who had submitted a complaint to PD, and was later arrested
by ICE.
Christina and Ricardo Olivas addressed the committee. She stated that they tried to
submit a complaint to the PD and they were told that they had to email the
complaint. When Ricardo was arrested, she had financial problems and she had to
live as a single mother. She couldn’t afford an immigration attorney. Now she’s
afraid when Ricardo drives somewhere that he could be arrested.
Ricardo described the traffic stop in which our police officer called immigration
and had him arrested. He felt that he was discriminated against because of his
national origin. He stated that the officer never told him that he was calling
immigration. He grew up in this community and has been here almost his whole
life, so he feels that this is his home. But in general, they don’t feel safe calling the
police even if a crime has been committed against them, for fear of being deported.
Emma Acosta addressed the committee. She has been living in Farmington for 17
years, and is Ricardo’s mother. She believes there were many mistakes that
Farmington PD made in her son’s arrest. Her other 12-year-old son was with
Ricardo when he was detained. The police never asked anything about the 12-year-
old, and only cared about Ricardo and the truck not being registered. She said that
they never asked for ID of the people who came to pick up her younger son, so she
didn’t know who picked him up. They never followed up with her regarding her
12-year-old son. This experience has created fear, especially for the children in her
family. Her other 16-year-old son is afraid to drive for fear of being pulled over.
Javier Dominguez addressed the committee. He stated that the Hispanic community
is feeling very intimidated. He used to work at the detention center and feels that
when a few officers are not professional, it affects the whole department. In cases of
domestic violence, they are afraid to call the police. They tried to renew their
confidence in the PD, and they know that the police officers are just doing their job.
They want to work together with the police, but since we have established a local
ICE agent, in their opinion it doesn’t seem possible.
Deb Dumont asked Chief Hebbe to describe the procedures for when somebody gets
pulled over. He said that they always ask for identification (normally a driver’s
license), but not social security numbers. When they cannot provide and I.D., the
officer will look in the computer system. Then, if there is a warrant for them in the
computer, they will contact ICE.
Elsa Lopez, represents “Somos Un Pueblo Unido”, and who had been interpreting
for the group, also addressed the committee. She said that they thought this was the
only avenue left to create open lines of communication, and they just want to make
sure that local resources are being used in the proper way, not threatening public
safety.
Chuck Culpepper made a motion, seconded by Patricia Simpson, to allow Ricardo to
submit his complaint to CPAC within the time allotted for an appeal from today’s
date (15 days). Motion carried.
VI. CLOSED MEETING
Steve Grey made a motion to go into closed session, seconded by Chuck Culpepper,
to discuss IA Case#2014-0038. All voted in favor; motion carried.
Following the closed meeting, during which meeting the matters discussed were
limited only to those specified in the motion for closure, a motion was made by
Chuck Culpepper to open the meeting for further business. Patricia Simpson
seconded the motion, and upon voice vote the motion carried unanimously.
Patricia Simpson made a motion to agree with the IA findings. Lisa Martin
seconded. Motion carried.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the Committee, and, upon motion
duly made and seconded, the meeting was adjourned.
____________________________ ______________________________
Deb Dumont, Chairman Kimberly Parrish, Secretary
Agenda
CITIZEN POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
AGENDA
November 18, 2014
7:00 PM
Executive Conference Room
800 Municipal Drive
1. Call to order
Establishment of Quorum
2. Approval of Minutes from Previous Meeting ACTION
Regular Meeting of September 16, 2014
3. Police Chief’s Report, Chief Steve Hebbe INFORMATION
4. Internal Affairs Report, Lt. Casey Malone INFORMATION
5. New Business
Members
Citizen Input
6. Closed Meeting (Discuss potential personnel issue) ACTION
Case Review - #2014-0038
7. Adjournment
Next Meeting: January 20, 2015
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