City Council
Regular MeetingFredericksburg, VA · January 13, 2015
Minutes
CITY OF FREDERICKSBURG, VIRGINIA HON. MARY KATHERINE GREENLAW, MAYOR
HON. WILLIAM C. WITHERS, JR., VICE -MAYOR, WARD TWO
CITY COUNCIL HON. KERRY P. DEVINE, AT-LARGE
HON. MATTHEW J. KELLY, AT-LARGE
HON. BRADFORD C. ELLIS, WARD ONE
HON. DR. TIMOTHY P. DUFFY, WARD THREE
HON. CHARLIE L. FRYE, JR., WARD FOUR
Council Chambers, 715 Princess Anne Street
Fredericksburg, Virginia 22401
Council Work Session
January 13, 2015
Embrey Hills Townhouse Development
Closed Session – R-Board Landfill
The Council of the City of Fredericksburg, Virginia held a work session on Tuesday,
January 13, 2015, beginning at 5:30 p.m. in City Hall Conference Room.
Council Present. Mayor Mary Katherine Greenlaw, Presiding. Vice-Mayor
William C. Withers, Jr. Councilors Kerry P. Devine, Dr. Timothy P. Duffy, Bradford C. Ellis,
Charlie L. Frye, Jr. and Matthew J. Kelly.
Also Present. City Manager Beverly Cameron, Assistant City Manager Mark
Whitley, City Attorney Kathleen Dooley, Director of Community Planning and Development
Services Charles Johnston and Clerk of Council Tonya B. Lacey.
Others Present. Bryan Stelmok, Homeowner’s Association, Jack Carr
Embrey Hills Townhouse Development. Mr. Johnston stated the purpose for
the work session was to discuss the rezoning of 34.1 acres, currently zoned R-2 Residential, to
R-12 Residential. The matter was heard by the Planning Commission, but was changed before
it was brought to Council. Staff asked Council if they thought the changes were substantial
enough to send it back to the Planning Commission for a recommendation. The changes can
be found on the attached staff memo.
Councilor Ellis said the substantive changes were to the proffers and he did not feel the
need to send it back to the Planning Commission. He felt the project was the same the proffers
were just different.
Councilor Frye asked about Roffman Road and whether it was going to connect to the
new road and Mr. Johnston explained that the UDO make provision that says if there is a
public right-of-way adjacent to a property there would be a connection to it. Mr. Frye said
through this process the City has learned that Roffman was a public street and he asked where
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was the City going to go from here and Mr. Johnston said it was up to the City as to whether it
would like to improve it and add it to the Capital Improvements Plan (CIP) or have the
applicant upgrade it to contemporary standards. Councilor Frye was concerned that the
applicant may not want to upgrade it and he wanted to know what would happen then. Mr.
Johnston said it is one of two means of access the developer would be using and if he wishes
not to make the improvements the rezoning application could be denied because the
development would not have sufficient access.
Councilor Devine said they were presented with two options, either sending it back to
the Planning Commission or moving forward with the application at Council level, but she said
she would consider not doing either because there are significant problems with this project.
She said she did not want to debate moving the project forward if the project was not
something Council really wanted.
Councilor Kelly was concerned because there have been a couple of projects that have
gone before the Planning Commission but by the time they get to the City Council there have
been changes and its seems like a new project. He said a discussion needed to take place so
that Council would know what the proffers are and whether Roffman Road would be coming
through or not.
Councilor Duffy said he was not in favor of the rezoning and he had concerns with the
roads and the guarantees of the quality of the road improvements. He did not want to move
forward if the project was not going anywhere.
Vice-Mayor Withers was concerned with the $2,500 per unit for school capital costs; he
said it would not do much for the CIP. He said that number was considerably off and he would
not support it at that rate. He had no problem with sending it back to the Planning
Commission. He would prefer to see single family homes built there instead.
Councilor Ellis agreed with Councilors Kelly and Devine and he said there needed to
be a benchmark for school proffers. He said he would like to know the City’s means on
proffers.
City Attorney Dooley explained that proffers have to be related to the public impact
such as schools or transportation.
Mayor Greenlaw asked whether the applicant would need to produce a full Generalized
Development Plan (GDP) if the application was sent back to the Planning Commission and Ms.
Dooley explained that before this could be sent back to the Planning Commission the applicant
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would need to amend their application. The City Council would either accept the application
for review or send it back to the Planning Commission for review. She explained that this is
what the applicant is trying to do.
Mayor Greenlaw reminded the Council that the significant decision was whether it was
in the best interest of the City to rezone to allow the 99 townhomes. She said she was
concerned about the rezoning because it seemed as though Council had some doubts about
rezoning.
Councilor Ellis asked Mayor Greenlaw if rezoning for the townhomes was the best use
for the property and she said the original master plan was for single family residential she said
the topography was difficult, but a developer could clustered to maximize the density.
Councilor Ellis said he would like to see if this would be a catalyst to get the area improved.
Councilor Devine said she did not feel comfortable with moving forward with a
rezoning until the City had the proffer amount clarified because she knows the $2,500 offer
was not appropriate. She said she was not thrilled with the dense area.
Councilor Kelly said there are many variables that come into play when developing
townhomes. He said if Council had any concerns they needed to let the applicants know up
front so that they can determine if they wanted to move forward with the project.
Mayor asked Council for clear direction of whether this needed to go back to the
Planning Commission and majority of the Council decided it was not necessary to send the
application back to the Planning Commission for review.
Mr. Stelmok said the ideal situation would be no connection at all to their
neighborhood. He said this connection could be a detriment to their neighborhood because it
would split their neighborhood in half. He explained that once the widening of Fall Hill was
complete Roffman would become a right in and right out road and this would cause additional
traffic with people cutting through the neighborhood and the roads were not designed for that
type of traffic. He said limited access would be the ideal situation.
Councilor Frye added that he feels if the new project was connected to the old it would
help to spruce up the old areas. Mr. Stelmok said their neighborhood has one large section and
one small section divided by Bragg Hill Drive and this would further divide the neighborhood.
He also said if Roffman was made a public street they would lose the ability to enforce
trespassing and other illegal activities.
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Mr. Jack Carr with the Homeowners Association said his main concern would be the
dumping of traffic through their neighborhood and the loss of ability to enforce illegal activity
in the neighborhood.
Closed Meeting Approved. Upon the motion of Councilor Devine, seconded by
Councilor Ellis and passed by the following unanimously recorded votes, Council approved a
closed session to discuss disposition of publically held real property for the purpose of
discussing property at the R-Board landfill where discussion in an open meeting would
adversely affect the bargaining position or negotiating strategy of the City Council, under
Virginia Code §2.2-3711(A)(3). Ayes (7) Councilors Greenlaw, Withers, Devine, Duffy, Ellis,
Frye and Kelly. Nays (0).
Return to Open Meeting Approved. Upon the motion of Councilor Devine,
seconded by Councilor Ellis and passed by the following unanimously recorded votes, Council
approved a return to an open meeting. Ayes (7) Councilors Greenlaw, Withers, Devine, Duffy,
Ellis, Frye and Kelly. Nays (0).
Resolution 15-01 Approved Certifying Closed Meeting. Upon the motion
Councilor Devine approved Resolution 15-01 certifying the closed meeting; seconded by
Councilor Ellis and passed by the following unanimously recorded votes. Ayes (7) Councilors
Greenlaw, Withers, Devine, Duffy, Ellis, Frye and Kelly. Nays (0).
Adjournment. There being no further business to come before the Council at this
time, Mayor Greenlaw declared the work session officially adjourned at 6:57 p.m.
____Tonya B. Lacey______
Tonya B. Lacey
Clerk of Council
City of Fredericksburg
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