City Council
Regular MeetingFredericksburg, VA · January 27, 2015
Minutes
CITY OF FREDERICKSBURG, VIRGINIA HON. MARY KATHERINE GREENLAW, MAYOR
HON. WILLIAM C. WITHERS, JR., VICE -MAYOR, WARD TWO
CITY COUNCIL HON. KERRY P. DEVINE, AT-LARGE
HON. MATTHEW J. KELLY, AT-LARGE
HON. BRADFORD C. ELLIS, WARD ONE
HON. DR. TIMOTHY P. DUFFY, WARD THREE
HON. CHARLIE L. FRYE, JR., WARD FOUR
Council Chambers, 715 Princess Anne Street
Fredericksburg, Virginia 22401
Council Work Session
January 27, 2015
Taxi Regulations
Closed Session – Downtown Parking Garage
The Council of the City of Fredericksburg, Virginia held a work session on Tuesday,
January 27, 2015, beginning at 5:30 p.m. in City Hall Conference Room.
Council Present. Mayor Mary Katherine Greenlaw, Presiding. Vice-Mayor
William C. Withers, Jr. Councilors Kerry P. Devine, Dr. Timothy P. Duffy, Bradford C. Ellis,
Charlie L. Frye, Jr. and Matthew J. Kelly.
Also Present. City Manager Beverly Cameron, Assistant City Manager Mark
Whitley, City Attorney Kathleen Dooley, Chief David Nye, Sergeant James Kuebler and Clerk
of Council Tonya B. Lacey.
Taxi Regulation. Sergeant Kuebler reviewed the Taxi Board recommendation with
Council. The first change they recommended was moving from zones to a flat rate fare
schedule. (See attachment for rate recommendations). He said the Board did not want meter
and did not discuss meters. Officer Keubler stated that the zones have become antiquated and
he believes the flat rate would be better for the customers.
The second change proposed was to change the expiration date of the taxi driver
permits. They suggested that the permit end one year from the date it was issued.
The third change proposed was to change the expiration date of the certificate of public
convenience to expire annually on January 31.
The final change was proposed by the Police department to change the method of
notification for the hazardous snow conditions surcharge. Currently, the watch commander has
to call the taxi companies when hazardous snow conditions go into effect. The police proposed
to notify them using the city text alert system to make notification.
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Councilor Devine felt that the rate of $8.00 was too much of an increase from the
average $4.25. She also stated that the gas surcharge should be done away with since gas was
so cheap now. City Attorney Dooley noted that the taxi drivers had not had an increase since
2004 and she explained that the surcharge only goes into effect when the gas is above $2.00.
Sergeant Kuebler said the proposed rate was what the Board felt was fair and he noted that Mr.
Denis Paddeu who represents the Rappahannock Area Agency on Aging had no objections to
the proposed increase.
Councilor Withers said he had no issues with changing the registration, but he was
concerned with the rate increase for those people living on a fixed budget. He said he would
like to first hear input from those using the cabs.
Councilor Ellis said he would like to govern the cleanliness of a cab. He said it makes
a statement about the City when they are not clean. He suggested a medallion system for the
cleanliness of the cabs.
Mayor reminded Council that they were proposing a $2.00 discount for seniors 65 and
older, which would make the fare $6.00.
Councilor Duffy asked what the average fares were and Sergeant Kuebler said he
wasn’t sure and the last time their fares were increased was in 2004. He also noted that the cab
drivers were not wealthy people and he felt there needed to be some sort of increase for them.
Councilor Duffy said that $8.00 was a big jump.
Councilor Kelly said he can’t make a decision until he knew what it takes to operate a
cab so he could make an informed decision.
Councilor Frye stated that his father currently drives for Bumbrey Cab and before the
gas surcharge was put into effect they were taking a hit and he also noted that the insurance
was expensive because they are transporting people. He offered to check on the expenses
through his father. He said maintenance was expensive and he noted that all drives pay for
their own expenses because each cab is independently owned.
Councilor Duffy asked how many cabs were owned by Fredericksburg residences and
Sergeant Kuebler said the numbers of authorized cabs were capped at 50 and he believes 35 or
so have City addresses.
Councilor Devine said she was fine with all the other changes but the fare increase was
her main concern.
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Councilor Kelly also said he would like to know how many pickups they make in a day
and the cost to run a cab before he could make any decisions.
Vice-Mayor Withers asked when was the number of certificates capped at 50 and he
asked if they thought that was too many for the City and Chief Nye said he believed that it was
capped a 50 during Chief Powers time in office. The reason he did it was so that it would not
be too many cabs in that area. Sergeant Kuebler said the number of certificates issued was
about 30-35 per year.
Councilor Kelly also noted that traffic also plays into the costs increase as well and
Councilor Devine asked should they consider peak and off peak rates. She also asked what
happens when it snows and Sergeant Kuebler said the watch commander would determine if
the winter surcharge was in effect.
Councilor Kelly said he like the concept of the flat rate but felt simplicity was best. He
wanted to be sure he was able to justify why they were making the increase.
Councilor Frye asked if there was a way to help people who use the cabs as their life
line such as going to the Cancer Treatment Centers. Sergeant Kuebler explained that Medicare
pays for transportation and Councilor Kelly added that there are programs set up to help those
in need.
Councilor Duffy asked if there had been any talk about Uber Lift in the area and
Sergeant Kuebler said Uber Lift was regulated on a state level and he had not heard about them
being in the area.
Mayor Greenlaw added that Council would like Sergeant Kuebler to get answers to
their questions so that they can determine what steps they should take.
Closed Meeting Approved. Upon the motion of Councilor Devine, seconded by
Councilor Frye and passed by the following unanimously recorded votes, Council approved a
closed session to discuss the acquisition of real property for a public purpose specifically,
downtown parking where discussion in an open meeting would adversely affect the bargaining
position or negotiating strategy of the City Council, under Virginia Code §2.2-3711(A)(3).
Ayes (7) Councilors Greenlaw, Withers, Devine, Duffy, Ellis, Frye and Kelly. Nays (0).
Return to Open Meeting Approved. Upon the motion of Councilor Devine,
seconded by Councilor Kelly and passed by the following unanimously recorded votes,
Council approved a return to an open meeting. Ayes (7) Councilors Greenlaw, Withers,
Devine, Duffy, Ellis, Frye and Kelly. Nays (0).
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Resolution 15-01 Approved Certifying Closed Meeting. Upon the
motion Councilor Devine approved Resolution 15-05 certifying the closed meeting; seconded
by Councilor Kelly and passed by the following unanimously recorded votes. Ayes (7)
Councilors Greenlaw, Withers, Devine, Duffy, Ellis, Frye and Kelly. Nays (0).
Adjournment. There being no further business to come before the Council at this
time, Mayor Greenlaw declared the work session officially adjourned at 6:50 p.m.
____Tonya B. Lacey______
Tonya B. Lacey
Clerk of Council
City of Fredericksburg
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