City Council - Special
Special MeetingGahanna, OH · November 6, 2013
Minutes
City of Gahanna
200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Wednesday, November 6, 2013
6:00 pm
200 S. Hamilton Road, Gahanna, OH 43230
City Council - Special
Stephen A. Renner, President of Council
Ryan P. Jolley, Vice President of Council
Karen J. Angelou
Beryl D. Anderson
Brandon Wright
Brian D. Larick
Thomas R. Kneeland
Isobel L. Sherwood, MMC, Clerk of Council
City Council - Special Meeting Minutes November 6, 2013
A. CALL MEETING TO ORDER - Roll Call.
Gahanna City Council met in Special Session on Wednesday,
November 6, 2013, in Council Chambers of City Hall, 200 South
Hamilton Road, Gahanna, Ohio. President of Council Stephen A.
Renner called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. The meeting was
called to hold second reading on ORD-0140-2013. Agenda for this
meeting was published on November 5, 2013.
Present 5 - Stephen A. Renner, Ryan P. Jolley, Brian D. Larick, Brandon Wright, and
Thomas R. Kneeland
Absent 2 - Karen J. Angelou, and Beryl D. Anderson
B. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES:
Present 6 - Stephen A. Renner, Ryan P. Jolley, Beryl D. Anderson, Brian D. Larick,
Brandon Wright, and Thomas R. Kneeland
Absent 1 - Karen J. Angelou
ORD-0140-2013 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO A GROUND
LESSOR (BUILDING B AND C) ESTOPPEL WITH CREEKSIDE
INVESTMENT PARTNERS, LLC; AND TO DECLARE AN
EMERGENCY
Jolley stated he had a question on the estoppel where it
communicates that there is no default under this agreement; does that
apply to the payment that was due October 1. Ewald stated you are
referring to Section 3(a); know what will happen is that this will be
similar to the process we used when the current owner bought from
foreclosure; originally we executed 5 or 6 estoppels; they have been
included in here for these particular documents; it will be exchanged
from escrow from the title company in exchange for the back payment
that was due.
Kneeland stated that Section 4 talks about covenants and
subordination to the loan; can you give some insight into what this will
do; that the city will not have any rights of first refusal; is this any
different from last one; what does this effectively do. Ewald said no; it
allows them to take the first right of refusal and counter it with their
own offer; in essence that's what it does. Kneeland said so it keeps
the city from making the first initial offer. Ewald agreed that in
essence that is correct.
Mayor Stinchcomb stated she wanted to express for the record that
we received this at 3:00 p.m. today; my administration and I have not
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had an opportunity to thoroughly review; have some questions; there
are no exhibits attached to this document; want to understand how
this works; being asked to sign something that says they owe us no
money and they do; understand it is supposed to happen at closing
but have some concerns how that will be orchestrated to guarantee
that we get paid; no language in here about money being put in
escrow and being exchanged; understand time is of the essence; will
have to go by attorney's advice but state my concerns about how this
is going to work and the hurried nature of this; understand why but
need to better understand the risks.
Jolley stated that was my question; the money that is already owed,
that agreement doesn't change, that is correct? Ewald said no it does
not change.
Stinchcomb said it technically says they are not in default; my
understanding is that they are not technically in default until the one
year anniversary; there is money owed; there are late charges,
interest, and penalties accruing; figured out that amount through Oct.
31; been told verbally we will be paid on closing; but don't know where
we have any guarantees.
Ewald stated Councilmember Wright said it best the other day; the
process normally is, and is the same as last time, the title company
will be the location of the closing; the title company will take these
documents and hold them until the lender produces a check for
payment thereof; that is the normal process; they have title insurance
on it; they have certain obligations they have to meet as a neutral
party.
Stinchcomb asked who would be attending the closing from the city;
wondering if there will be an actual closing; is it going to happen in
Columbus or Lansing; will there be a physical representation.
Ewald stated the only action in front of Council tonight is whether or
not they are going to authorize you to execute the documents; doesn't
mean you have to execute them.
Stinchcomb stated she understood that; if we go through this and find
changes, Council would have to reconsider the issue so bringing up
my concerns now.
Ewald stated if there were substantive changes that would be correct,
typos could be corrected. Stinchcomb stated that those of you more
familiar with banking and law than I am, have the confidence that this
will be handled correctly in closing and that when we review this
tomorrow there will be no substantive changes; appreciate City
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Attorney for his work on this; very rushed; know we are trying to do our
best to make this work.
Ewald stated he has spent the last day and a half on the phone with
outside counsel who helped draft the original agreements and
estoppels; they are comfortable with this; just finally got final
document back today.
Jolley stated he wanted to clarify, the estoppels are not and do not
preclude us from collecting on the payment that was due in October
for the back rents.
Ewald stated not if the process is followed; if this goes into escrow and
is held until exchange of check occurs, then it will absolutely protect
us; if this gets to them before that, arguably could use this to say
nothing is owed; that is why it is important to have this process.
Anderson stated she echoed the comments of the Mayor; she used
an operative word in our "normal care" in terms of review of things;
understand the time frame in going back and forth for the last day and
a half; when things are done in a rush doesn't give you the time to
digest and go through with a fine tooth comb; for clarity of
understanding not just of the Mayor but everybody involved; think the
timing of this and lateness of getting it to us at 3:00 p.m. today, speaks
to the necessity to give us more time to review; in these kind of
transactions just think that taking more care is better than rushing; am
in favor of having more time; we all want Creekside to be a success
but we need to understand all the aspects and facts; seen where that
has been a mishap in the past and don't want to repeat.
Renner asked if there was a specific point or a motion. Anderson
stated she had made her point; we received it late and should have
time to look at it.
Motion by Anderson, seconded by Larick, to postpone
ORD-0140-2013 to November 12, 2013.
Larick stated his question is pertinent to motion to postpone; Section 2
of the ordinance says that this ordinance is declared emergency
legislation and shall be in full force and effect after passage by this
Council and on date of signature approval of the Mayor; what
precludes us from including in here and payment of "x" dollars by "x"
date; doesn't that then protect us with the questions we are asking.
Ewald stated it would; reason we didn't include it is you don't normally
put that in an estoppel because it is handled during the transaction.
Larick stated he was talking about the legislation. Sherwood stated
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she could do a separate section in the legislation but not include in the
final paragraph which is standard language somewhat dictated by
ORC for emergency legislation.
Larick stated his question was separate section giving detail. Ewald
stated you could add it; would not be binding on the borrower in this
case; you would explain the intent and why the money was being
appropriated but there is nothing obligating the other party to make
sure they follow through. Larick stated other than the estoppel is not a
valid document until those criteria are met. Ewald stated it would have
to be in the estoppel.
Anderson stated my concern is to that but also to the contractual part
of it. Larick stated he is less concerned about the contractual part.
Anderson stated that is what makes it enforceable or not; even if we
have something legislative; not binding; and there might be other
questions.
Kneeland stated he would normally be of the same impression as
Anderson; what I am looking at is that this is basically the replication
of an estoppel that is existing; do have external legal counsel in Pat
Cornelius looking at this; experts in the field who have examined it and
given recommendations; guess the other point is we are only
authorizing the Mayor to enter into the agreement; assuming she will
have a vetting process tomorrow; definitely am in favor of acting on
this in order to keep the process going forward; based on the Mayor's
angst will get vetted very deeply; in favor of moving forward, especially
given some of the risks for the project if this doesn't occur.
Larick stated this may be repetitive but just trying to clarify; there is the
concern about the document; separately heard concern about the
follow through that protects the city that this would actually be
delivered after the moment in time that the city is made whole;
simultaneously as opposed to prior to which would put the city at risk.
Ewald stated correct. Larick stated he would think from a legislative or
potentially contractual nature that risk can be mitigated by language;
how do we do that. Ewald stated it would need to go in the estoppel.
Anderson asked how that can be done. Ewald stated we can make
the adjustment; looking to see where it can be added. Larick asked if
it would need to be vetted by both legal parties. Ewald stated if we
add it to the legislation then you are authorizing us to add it and we
would need to run it back past Cornelius; we talked about that
particular point and normally estoppels don't carry that because there
is a simultaneous transaction.
Larick stated he did not think there was much risk but it would be
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prudent if there is a simple means of eliminating it, that's what we
should accomplish.
Kneeland stated he would have to say if we do that, should add to the
estoppel itself; if we add that and pass it legislatively tonight, the other
party only has one choice - to accept this; and if they don't the process
starts over again; from a risk standpoint if we can't add to the estoppel
where it protects us financially from the component we are discussing,
then by passing it legislatively we have done our due diligence. Ewald
stated we could build that into the request for the legislation saying
Council wanted that done; if possible, can add to this and vet that
through; can be added as a condition.
Stinchcomb stated wouldn't an amendment be needed now. Jolley
stated discussion is supposed to be focused right now on
postponement; can we dispose of that motion and then continue
discussing whether or not to amend. Larick stated the only reason he
wouldn't is that until we resolve the issue, I would be in favor of
postponement if we don't protect ourselves; if we are going to protect
ourselves, then I'm fine.
Ewald stated we can add that language in; find out where to insert but
we can add it in. Anderson stated she had a question relative to that;
said could do as a condition; that means they can accept or reject;
think they realize we are in agreement in wanting to make this happen;
don't think it would be a condition they would reject. Ewald stated he
didn't think so; you could make it a concise statement to the effect of
"our understanding this is in exchange for this transaction to occur and
that said monies will be coming to the City for ground leases for 2013";
could just be a statement. Anderson stated we would need a date
certain.
Sherwood stated the third whereas section in the pending legislation
could be moved to be a new section in the body of the legislation.
Larick read the section and Ewald agreed.
Stinchcomb confirmed that we are not changing the language in the
estoppel itself. Ewald stated he would try to accomplish that; could
vote on it as a form with the addition of the request. Kneeland asked if
this could be done conditionally; we could add it to this legislation.
Jolley stated he had a process question; you are talking about going to
the closing; how are you going to deliver this; if you take to the closing
and they don't have the money, do you simply don't deliver this.
Ewald stated that what was done last time we put it in escrow and that
company not release the documents until a check was in their hand.
Larick stated you would put the estoppel in escrow. Ewald replied
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yes.
Stinchcomb stated she understands that is the process, but is my
responsibility to sign; wanted to express that we needed to change
language on the floor; need to write that language now to add to the
estoppel.
Ewald stated it could be added to the legislation; you would agree to
add it to the legislation. Anderson stated what about physically seeing
the language. Stinchcomb stated it was highly unusual.
Ewald stated you could be that descriptive and drill down to the
estoppel to the exact language; could also open it up so that the intent
of making sure that language is added is in the legislation.
Kneeland stated that whatever that amount is, if we add it to a new
section of the legislation being added now by the Clerk, and add
financial numbers to that then the estoppel would be null and void if
they don't meet the mandate of the ordinance; by virtue of the
ordinance saying it must be, they either accept it or they don't; to me
as a layman in law, sure seems like it would protect us.
Jolley stated that in rereading the third whereas clause, it says that the
Mayor is authorized to execute this agreement which is to be delivered
to escrow to be held in exchange for the complete payment of the
ground lease payments due. Stinchcomb stated a whereas clause is
not binding. Jolley stated he understood; talking about moving to a
new section; not authorizing you to simply hand this over to
Strathmore; it will have to be placed in escrow; they can't have access
to it without payment. Stinchcomb stated I see where you are going.
Jolley continued that he saw no need to add it to the estoppel itself;
we are not authorizing you to give it to them but to put it in escrow;
they can't access it from escrow without providing payment.
Wright stated that is exactly right; taken us a long time to get to the
point of what escrow does; have confidence in the process; that's why
escrow company has insurance; if it were to happen that they
improperly did something then the liability would go to escrow
company; that's where the City would turn their focus for any
ramifications on financials; just wanted to make that clear; would like a
point of order on what we are discussing.
Renner stated the motion on the floor is the postponement to Tuesday
evening; any further discussion.
Larick stated a line in the whereas being moved states "ground lease
payments due"; monthly payments were to be made; is that referring
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to those payments to date or is that the complete term of the year;
what is that amount. Ewald stated it is due as of the execution of this
agreement. Stinchcomb stated she understood that payment in full
will be accomplished. Larick reiterated not payment to date but
payment in full. Stinchcomb stated that was her understanding.
Larick asked if that was an assumption or a documented value
somewhere. Ewald said that had been delivered verbally; actually is
all due right now.
Anderson asked Ewald what is worst case scenario if this didn't close
on Thursday and the legislation was postponed to Tuesday. Ewald
stated he can't say for certain; has been told by the developer that it is
extremely important for this to occur tomorrow. Anderson said so no
downside; no conversation about risks. Ewald stated he believed the
owner had conversations with each of the Council members. Jolley
stated in my conversation he said the potential risk is foreclosure.
Stinchcomb stated she heard that as well.
Jolley called the question on the postponement.
ROLL CALL: Voting yes: Anderson. Voting no: Larick, Jolley,
Kneeland, Renner, Wright. Motion to postpone fails.
ROLL CALL:
Angelou enetered the meeting at 6:28 p.m.
Present 7 - Stephen A. Renner, Ryan P. Jolley, Karen J. Angelou, Beryl D. Anderson,
Brian D. Larick, Brandon Wright, and Thomas R. Kneeland
ORD-0140-2013 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO A GROUND
LESSOR (BUILDING B AND C) ESTOPPEL WITH CREEKSIDE
INVESTMENT PARTNERS, LLC; AND TO DECLARE AN
EMERGENCY
MOTION by Jolley, seconded by Larick, to amend ORD-0140-2013 by
moving the third whereas clause to create a new Section 2 with the
same language and renumbering existing Section 2 to Section 3.
Angelou apologized for just arriving; thought meeting was at 6:30 pm;
asked for a brief explanation of the motion before us. Renner stated
that motion before us is to amend the legislative portion of
ORD-0140-2013 for the third whereas to be a new section 2 to the
ordinance and existing section 2 be renumbered to section 3.
ROLL CALL Voting yes: Jolley, Larick, Anderson, Kneeland, Renner,
Wright, Angelou. Motion carried.
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This Ordinance was Adopted, as Amended, as an Emergency
Yes: 7- Renner, Jolley, Angelou, Anderson, Larick, Wright and Kneeland
C. ADJOURNMENT: 6:30 p.m. - Motion by Larick.
Isobel L. Sherwood, MMC
Clerk of Council
APPROVED by the City Council - Special, this
day of 2013.
Stephen A. Renner
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City of Gahanna
200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Wednesday, November 6, 2013
6:00 pm
200 S. Hamilton Road, Gahanna, OH 43230
City Council - Special
GAHANNA’S VISION is…
… to be an innovative model community that values its rich heritage, pursues high standards and promotes
respect among its citizens.
GAHANNA’S MISSION is…
… to ensure an exceptional quality of life by providing comprehensive services, financial stability, and
well-planned development which preserves the natural environment, in order that city government will continue
to be responsive, accessible and accountable to our diverse and growing community of citizens.
Stephen A. Renner, President of Council
Ryan P. Jolley, Vice President of Council
Karen J. Angelou
Beryl D. Anderson
Brandon Wright
Brian D. Larick
Thomas R. Kneeland
Isobel L. Sherwood, MMC, Clerk of Council
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City Council - Special Meeting Agenda November 6, 2013
A. CALL MEETING TO ORDER - Roll Call.
B. SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES:
ORD-0140-2013 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO A GROUND LESSOR
(BUILDING B AND C) ESTOPPEL WITH CREEKSIDE INVESTMENT
PARTNERS, LLC; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY
Needs to be amended by Substitution
C. ADJOURNMENT.
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