Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · March 26, 2012
Minutes
Office of the Clerk of Council
City of Gahanna 200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Committee of the Whole
Stephen A. Renner, Chair
Beryl D. Anderson
Karen J. Angelou
Ryan P. Jolley
Brian D. Larick
David L. Samuel
Brandon Wright
Monday, March 26, 2012 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
Present 5 - Stephen A. Renner, Brandon Wright, Karen J. Angelou, Ryan P. Jolley,
and David L. Samuel
Absent 2 - Beryl Anderson, and Brian D. Larick
Additional Attendees:
Mayor Stinchcomb, Dottie Franey, Rick Creps, Karl Wetherholt, Sue Wadley, Mike
Andrako, Gen. Williams, Chief Murphy, Lt. Spence, Anthony Jones, Leah Evans,
Shane Ewald, Jennifer Teal, Tony Collins, Brandi Braun, Isobel Sherwood, Tom
Kneeland, Charlene O'Donnell and Toni Hall from Pediatric & Adolescent
Practitioners, Press.
ISSUE - From Director of Development:
Office & Industrial Incentive - Pediatric & Adolescent Practioners, Inc.
Renner called the meeting for Monday, March 26, 2012, to order; first up is the
Director of Development.
Jones said we have 2 employees from this practice here along with Evans who is
managing this project.
Evans said they are a current medical practice in Gahanna on Waterbury Court; we
are seeking an Office & Industrial incentive in order to retain them in Gahanna; they
will be moving to 1085 Beecher Crossing North where they will have a more efficient
service pattern; information came to us that they were looking at locations outside
Gahanna that they felt would meet their needs since they were not finding it in
Gahanna; we worked with them and put them in touch with Larry Canini; he is able to
build out the location chosen to meet their needs; so while they are negotiating to get
the space to what they like and would prosper in, we decided for the first time to
assist with the retention offer of a 3 year 15% O & I offer; the value is $13,136 over 3
years; it would start in 2013 and the net income in tax revenue to the City would be
$278,765 over the 10 year lease; potentially could go longer as they have been in
operation here in Gahanna a long time.
O'Donnell said we are a 6-physician office with 17 thousand active patients; we have
been in Gahanna for 15 to 20 years and the practice is between 40 to 50 years old;
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the building at Waterbury is not serviceable anymore with 2 floors and 6 doctors; we
have done well there but we like the new area that is more user friendly; it is all on
one floor at about 6500 square feet; we have signed a 10.5 year lease that starts in
June; we will update the space to have only one nurse's station; there will be more
exam rooms with 20, a similar parking arrangement for our 25 employees; there will
be no fewer employees, we may add physicians but we also have some that are
older who may leave; we think the move will be a shot in the arm and we could see
more patients; any consideration we can have is appreciated; this economy is driving
us all to find ways to save; we looked in Columbus, Whitehall, and New Albany but
we feel Gahanna has been good to us and we would like to stay here.
Angelou said we like to hear that; the 10 year lease is the way I can support this;
even though your roots are here, that shows you are committed to Gahanna and it is
a good reason for us to give you the incentive.
Wright said I am excited that you reconsidered Gahanna; this is an example of why
we should consider starting a retention fund to keep small businesses in Gahanna.
Samuel said it is a well established practice; my grandkids go there so I am happy
you are staying.
Renner ask for any other comments.
Angelou clarified they are moving in June; this begins in January.
Original recommendation was first reading, no need to come back, second reading,
consent agenda; Jolley requested the final recommendation later in the meeting.
Recommendation: 1st Reading, Consent, no need to come back; 2nd Reading,
Regular Agenda.
PENDING LEGISLATION:
ORD-0067-2012 TO ZONE 2.45 +/- ACRES OF PROPERTY AS ER-2, ESTATE
RESIDENTIAL; SAID PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5061 SHAGBARK
ROAD; CITY OF GAHANNA, APPLICANT.
Renner said next item is pending legislation for 3 zoning ordinances; they have had
first reading and hearings; are there any additional comments.
The first is for 2.45 acres at 5061 Shagbark; no comments.
Recommendation: 2nd Reading, Consent.
ORD-0068-2012 TO ZONE 0.29+/- ACRES OF PROPERTY AS SO, SUBURBAN
OFFICE; SAID PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4427 EAST JOHNSTOWN
ROAD; CITY OF GAHANNA, APPLICANT.
Renner said the second one is for 0.29 acres at 4427 E. Johnstown Road.
Angelou asked if this was the parking lot issue. Sherwood said no, it is an
annexation.
Recommendation: 2nd Reading, Consent.
ORD-0069-2012 TO ZONE 0.826 +/- ACRES OF PROPERTY AS CC-2, COMMUNITY
COMMERCIAL; SAID PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1150 NORTH
HAMILTON ROAD; CITY OF GAHANNA, APPLICANT.
Renner said the third one is for 0.826 acres at 1150 N. Hamilton Road.
Recommendation: 2nd Reading, Consent.
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ISSUE - From Previous Committee Night:
Olde Ridenour Speeding
Renner said next is a previous committee issue for Olde Ridenour Road speeding;
who will speak to this.
Ewald said I will; I talked to Franey and Council; there are a couple of options here;
begin with a review of the title and deed work; next we have to move to secure a
better title; if you have any concerns you can keep it on your agenda, but there is no
action for Council; I will keep you up to date; it is a lengthy process; there is no short
term solution; I would not suggest any alterations to the flow of traffic at this time.
Wright said I will meet with the resident and give him an update and plan to keep him
informed. Ewald said I will keep you in the loop through email. Renner said how long
can we expect this lengthy process to take. Ewald said about a year once the
process begins; after we pass legislation I feel we would be in a more secure
position. Renner said thank you for looking into it.
Recommendation: Remove from agenda; no legislation at this time.
ISSUES - From Director of Human Resources:
Delta Dental Contract
Wadley said I provided a memo with details; our dental insurance has been with
Delta Dental for a number of years under a renewable contract; the Central Ohio
Health Care Consortium voted to leave them and form their own group so we need to
sign a new contract; Delta did agree to honor the 2012 rate with a new plan; the
details are in the memo.
Wright said is there a reason a single pays the same as family. Wadley said typically
we see different tiers; whether someone is single, employee plus one or family; ours
has always been set up with a composite rate; doesn't mean we can't change it
moving forward; the composite rate takes into consideration those factors; since we
pay the premium versus the employee paying any portion of it, it will be the same
using the composite or the breakout; typically employers will use a breakout because
the employee is paying a percentage. Wright said it seems imbalanced if a single
pays the same as a family; I looked at this and another question is why do the PPO
and the Premier and the out of network all have the same level of benefits; usually
would see a discount with a PPO or more deductible. Wadley said you are correct
with these assumptions for some plans; the way our plan is currently set up and has
been done for a number of years, the benefits are the same in network and out of
network; you would normally see a better benefit in network to reduce costs.
Angelou said this is March; why wasn't this done in January. Wadley said they just
separated and Delta had to do a new contract with a different consortium; the Central
Ohio Dental Care Consortium doesn't exist anymore. Angelou said like health care,
the dental has a huge increase. Wadley said that did not have any impact on the
price; we did negotiate to keep same rate as originally quoted; did gather information
on why the increase is high and it is just the utilization; in 2011 for the renewal our
loss ratio was 88%; they came back with a quote of 6% and it was negotiated down
to 2.5%; our utilization rate in 2011 for 2012 was at 94%. Angelou said are we
looking for other sources like for health care. Wadley said we are trying to keep
better control of costs and benefits and that is why the consortium wanted out.
Angelou said I want to make sure we, as a City, are looking at any ways to keep
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costs down, and we keep medical on the front burner.
Wadley said Teal and I attended the consortium meeting this month and shared
concerns with them; on the medical side they are revisiting their benefits; when we
have that information, we will find out what other carriers offer and do a
comprehensive study to determine what is the best plan. Angelou said glad to hear
that.
Recommendation: 1st Reading, Consent; no need to come back; 2nd Reading,
Consent.
ISSUE - From Director of Development:
Regional Economic Development Pact
Jones said we are requesting authorization for the Mayor to enter into a Regional
Economic Development Agreement (REDA); since 2011 the Mayor, Braun, and I
have been working to find ways to work together as a region and save money; for
example ORD-0023-2012 was passed for shared fleet maintenance; this is what the
Regional Partnership agreement looks like; it went down the path originally of being
very complicated with tax issues and revenue sharing; to incent a company to move
to another region is not effective; those monies could be used to help companies that
are here or attract new ones to the region; REDA prohibits the use of tax dollars to
entice a local company to move existing jobs from a partnering jurisdiction; this is a
collaboration of 10 Central Ohio communities; last week the Mayor was at an event at
City Hall where agreement was reached on what this would say; now each
community is going before their Councils to secure agreement; it is our hope you find
it worthwhile and will agree for us to enter into it; as Development Director I
encourage this as a step in determining where to invest our scarce resources; there
has been a lot of discord and disagreement in the past; our goal is to come to a
consensus and agree to communicate going forward; there are 12 conditions
outlined; it describes what we are committing to; it will expire in 2013; all parties will
meet quarterly to discuss any changes to the agreement or ways to make it more
effective and to make sure it is helping us complete our mission of economic
development; any questions.
Samuel said tell me what happens if a community violates the agreement. Mayor said
we talked about if there should be a penalty and how that would work; if all Councils
adopt it, it becomes legislation in each community so if we break it, we are breaking
our own laws; talking about putting together a panel in case there is any trouble; we
know we will be tempted; there are businesses that will tempt us, most likely
commercial real estate investors; if there are disagreements this panel of about 3 of
our peers would get together and mediate if necessary; this is for an 18 month trial
period; it is unprecedented in this region even though it has been done elsewhere in
Ohio; to answer your question there is not a financial penalty; the power of this is the
small group; we were 8 cities originally, grew to 10, now we have 12 cities
considering it; we intend to continue to reach out to all communities because with
everyone in it works better.
Angelou said it is a matter of trust; there was no reason to trust before but now you
have this document; and if someone does break it, they can't give any incentive.
Jones said by signing this you can't give any incentive.
Mayor said we have learned about this; at one point Columbus took a large employer
from us; still hurts us today; a couple of years later we took one from them; the
taxpayers of either community don't win.
Angelou asked do we have any pre-1994 CRAs. Jones said we do in the Olde
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Gahanna area; those would be automatic. Angelou said that is the one caveat.
Samuel said will this group discuss how to eliminate the game playing by companies
who come to town; they know they are going to a specific city, but they go to others
asking what can you do for me in order to enrich their deal. Jones said when a
community is approached by a company looking for incentives, if they are currently
talking to someone else within the region, we have to reach out and determine what
the project parameters are; they could be adding jobs and if that is the case, there
are organizations that we can use to insure we are being consistent with any offers;
there is nothing outlined specifically in this agreement that states that; but there are
ways for us to effectively manage that.
Wright asked what are the cities in the agreement. Jones said Columbus,
Westerville, Worthington, Dublin, New Albany, Upper Arlington, Grove City, Hilliard,
Grandview Heights, Gahanna, Whitehall, Reynoldsburg, Canal Winchester, and
Obetz; we have a group of Mayors and City Managers to reach out to them to insure
they want to be in the group; these are the primary ones in the group. Wright said
what happens if we sign this and then in one of the other communities a new Council
would repeal their legislation; what does it do to us. Jones said the goal of meeting on
a quarterly basis is to address issues just like this; we would know if a community
was feeling the goal was not in line with their vision, we could make adjustments;
when we meet every quarter we will address the problems we are seeing with the
agreement and what is working well; so we have a proactive approach in place to
address that.
Recommendation: 1st Reading, no need to come back; 2nd Reading, Consent.
Issue - From Mayor:
Vision Mission Statement
Braun said the next 2 to 3 items on the agenda are follow up items from our strategic
planning session; as part of our report, we emailed the report from Julia Novak that
captured what happened during the planning day; we are trying to take some of the
major action items and start the next steps in the planning process; there are 3 main
categories; one is the vision and the mission; then critical success factors or strategic
objectives; and the last item is the work plan which we did not get to finish; the first
one for the agenda is Council re-affirming the vision of the City, based on the
discussion and the consensus that was reached assuming that stands; then
modifying the mission statement based on conversations that took place; we wanted
to bring those forward for discussion and perhaps legislatively.
Samuel said after some long thought regarding the mission statement, I am opposed
to use of the word "strive" for; the Council before us and I would agree that the word
"insure" should remain; the reason for this is that "insure" means to make sure; when
I look at Gahanna, it is an exceptional place and we have an exceptional quality of
life; we have that; we provide comprehensive services, we have financial stability, we
are in better shape than most communities; we have well planned development; we
have achieved a lot with what little we have had; the Development Department has
done wonders along with our Service Department to bring in good developments;
what I hear people say is we are more responsive, accountable and accessible to our
constituents than any City in Central Ohio; I would say we need to keep the word
"insure" and keep making sure that we keep this City like it is; the best; "striving" to
me means struggling, arguing, and making an effort to bring the City up to a high
level; we are already there; we want to insure that we remain that way.
Renner said he missed the planning session due to illness; need background; why
would we strike the word "provide" and go to "strive"; I share Samuel's views.
Mayor said I have a clarification to ask about; on the front of this page it says "insure"
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but in the report it says "provide" so which is it. Braun said it is "insure"; where does it
say "provide". Renner said in the report that was sent out. Mayor said I was unclear;
asked Sherwood did we do research and pass this. Sherwood said yes. Braun said
that is a mistake; it is in the memo twice; it should say "insure"; the first time is
correct the second is not correct. Renner said I have the same question; why change
it to "strive". Angelou said the question that came up was about the word
"exceptional"; there was a lot of comment, not from Council, but primarily from staff
members saying it is difficult to grade exceptional; if you don't reach a goal then you
are not exceptional; I think we are an exceptional community and Samuel put that in
his words tonight; but what I heard earlier is some people said we are not an
exceptional City; there was a dramatic statement about us not being an exceptional
City that caused me to be taken aback. Wright said in that conversation you have to
look at the context of it; this is a professional staff, and to be honest, we have been
funding things partially and half way sometimes; for them in their jobs as
professionals, it is hard to come up with exceptional service if your budget is not
exceptional; the budgets were cut and were not what they were before then it is hard
to come up with the City as exceptional; that is what I got from it from observing; they
were not saying they did not want to do it; there is just a lot that you have to look at;
they are the professionals and they are saying to get Gahanna to professional level
you have to fund it; we have not had that for the past few years; that's why I thought
we were taking that out. Angelou said the word "exceptional" was never struck out;
we left that in. Jolley said we did have a very long discussion on semantics; bottom
line every one overwhelmingly agreed for the vision and the mission it encapsulated
what we stand for; the only change discussed was "strive for"; nothing drastic; most
everyone thought what we have already captures what we are trying to do as a City;
we did not feel the need to drastically change anything but just tweak a word or two.
Angelou said the modification came as a way to make the word "exceptional" more
comfortable for people; I like it the original way; it drives everything we are doing.
Jolley said the 2nd piece of this we don't know if it was ever formally adopted. Mayor
said we asked Sherwood to research that and it was. Jolley said that was the other
piece to make sure it was formally adopted.
Samuel said I agree with Wright in that we need to keep progressing with
expenditures to meet the needs of residents when we have it; and that would keep us
at this level I am talking about.
Renner said so you are bringing forward something we thought was agreed upon.
Braun said there seemed to be consensus on it; we talked about having to define
"exceptional," define "high standards," define and determine what is our level of
service and where do we want to be; not sure how the Mayor feels about this, but we
felt even if we didn't change this, we should reaffirm it as it is it is important to do that
because it is the foundation for where we go with the success factors and the work
plan; one thing talked about was things that are out of our control; to insure an
exceptional quality of life in an economic downturn and a recession when revenues
are low, we are going to strive for that but we certainly can't insure that it would be
what some people consider exceptional; bringing it forward whether it is amended or
not. Renner said that is why I am uneasy; I don't change my own mission on a
temporal basis; it is something that exists as it is and that is what the City should do;
if we have economic downturn that could last for 5 to 10 years, so what; you still have
a mission statement that encapsulates what we do; we are going to insure the best
we can provide; I don't see anything different in here.
Samuel said, with respect to the Administration, this is Council's mission and vision
statement and we will be deciding what it will be; I understand we all work together
but this is Council's mission statement. Sherwood said Council wrote it with a
different Administration who basically agreed to follow it, but it was not the
Administration's vision/mission statement at that time. Mayor said I was one of the
Council members at that time; when we wrote it we spent a lot of time on it; I take
these as our marching orders; this is what we are here to do as a City; not just
Council or the Administration separately because it doesn't say Gahanna City
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Council's mission on it; it could if you wanted it to; but frankly it works like usual; you
all set the laws and our job is to support and follow them and make it happen; my
concern was just as Wright said earlier; I had issues with "insure" and "exceptional"
because I feel like in the last few years we have not been performing at an
exceptional level and the Directors would agree because the funding has not been
there; I am ok with this as long as everyone understands that this is what the
Administration is going to work toward and take as what we do every day; the staff
will push us all to insure our exceptional quality of life; that means insuring adequate
funding to make sure we can carry out this mission; if you don't change it and it has
been adopted we don't have to do it again; or we could reaffirm as Braun had asked.
Angelou said I would like to give some background; in 1990s all the Administration
was there at the golf course when this was done; absolutely everyone was involved in
coming up with these statements and it should be the driving force. Mayor said that is
why we felt it was important that it should be reaffirmed together as we started our
planning with a new group of people; insure that this is indeed the direction; this is the
expectation and why as Renner says they don't change; you don't change them for
periodic economic downturns; there has been talk that Gahanna should be more
moderate and not funded at such a high level. Angelou said I can't imagine that
anyone wants that; if they do they can go to a different place. Wright said it doesn't
help build relations to say they should go somewhere else; these are professional
people taking their work seriously; if the mission is to insure exceptional, they take it
literally; whether it was because we didn't have the money or didn't want to fund it,
things were cut back and it was hard to create an exceptional atmosphere; I am
comfortable with whichever way we go; we do need to discuss how we take it literally.
Mayor said there is no need to decide this at this meeting; there is continued
discussion; there are more steps we would like to take.
Renner said the discussion is good so we understand, but I am diametrically opposed
to changing anything in that. Angelou said I can support not changing anything.
Recommendation: Back to Committee in 2 weeks when all of Council is present.
Follow up to Planning Session
Braun said there are 2 other things I need to follow up on; the critical success factors
and the work plan; broad options are we could do another session facilitated by either
an outside or inside person and do it as a group; another option is a hybrid approach
that combines individual work as well as group discussion to make sure this process
continues and comes to a resolution; with the critical success factors I wanted to step
back; the facilitator started with our 5 strategic objectives; everyone involved got hung
up on their definitions and what they meant in 2008; it was good dialogue; a better
approach would be to step back and start with a clean slate; we need to say what 5
major things need to go well for us to achieve our vision; the approach I outlined
would have every Council member listing up to 5 objectives and provide a brief
definition of those; the Mayor's office would analyze those and come up with trending
topics; come up with a draft document of 5 to 7 critical success factors along with the
definition; bring that forward as a straw-man for group discussion to decide on those;
many cities, when they decide their critical objectives, adopt them legislatively; we
don't have to but that is an option. Wright and Renner both said they like this idea.
Braun said I included some instructions in case we choose to go that route; happy to
provide examples or provide assistance with the process. Renner said what is the
time frame; when do you want us to submit something. Mayor said that is up to you;
what kind of pace do you want to take. Braun said 1 week or 10 days; 2 weeks at the
most; I would like to keep it going. Sherwood said if it comes back to committee in 2
weeks, it should be 10 days or by next Monday; that gives you a week to compile.
Braun said that works for me. Sherwood said by April 2; will send an email out.
Braun said the 3rd and last item is the Work Plan; we started work on the 2012/2013
work plan; Novak had Council members name projects they would like to see happen
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in the next 2 years; then we voted; there were 6 that received the most votes; then
we broke into smaller groups and talked about those in depth and what kind of
policies could we create to see these things come to fruition; examples are Creekside
redevelopment, a 5 year financial plan; what the Mayor and I are recommending is
that the Administration work on that plan; we take it and flesh it out a bit, maybe add
some projects based on the other discussions and then bring that forward for Council
consideration as a draft work plan for the next 2 years; once again it would be the
straw-man to start the dialogue with.
Renner said I think it is a great plan.
ISSUES - From Director of Public Service:
New Fleet Philosophy Presentation with Supplemental Requests
Franey provided a power point presentation; a copy is available in the Council Office;
she introduced Rick Creps, Fleet Superintendent.
Questions and Comments:
Renner said I hate to go back, but this type of activity personifies the insuring of
exceptional quality in our mission statement; not striving, but insuring; my question is,
can you elaborate on how the internal control process will work. Franey said this is
how we envision it; have an example from tonight knowing this would be brought
forward; Jones has a Zoning vehicle that they are having trouble with; so Jones
called and said we need that vehicle replaced; what do we do; we said fill out this
business case form; it asks all the pertinent questions; at the bottom of the form it
has signatures for the Director of the Department, the Fleet Maintenance
Superintendent, Franey, and Finance; everyone signs off and has answered
appropriately; Finance would say if there are funds; fleet maintenance will answer if it
can't be replaced, how long can it last; there are specific questions each person
answers for the sign off; we would go through that entire process, then we would look
at the spreadsheet and see if this makes sense; so we are in the process of doing
this right now with Jones; we can say on this, you know Police get new equipment;
they have some vehicles in fairly good shape and could go more with limited use, not
hard use; so this could go to a Zoning Officer; we don't want it black and white so we
would have to wrap the car and reposition it to Zoning and they get an excellent car;
that is how the decision is made at fleet level and it would go through all of those
processes to get there.
Samuel said have you looked at any commercial programs for this tracking and
internal control that might already be in existence and save manual work. Franey said
I have not. Samuel said I have 3 sources you might want to check; I will share with
you. Franey said we do have the Faster System; that is a database where all the
work orders have been input; there is a system in Faster that we can look at; it is
something we already own and other municipalities use this; it has a point system; it
is doing the same things we are doing but on this point basis; so we have something
like that if that is your question. Samuel said no this would put it all together. Angelou
said it has a dashboard; saw it at the Analytics for a Smarter City and IBM has
something as well. Franey said we would love to see any of it. Samuel said I will have
someone call you. Mayor said we have been using the spreadsheet system for 2
years; it has been very effective for us; the funding is the new piece; letting the
departments know they have a certain amount of money available to make long term
decisions and carry over funds if they choose to; that is the new piece; give Franey
and Creps and Spence a lot of credit to come up with this system; it is a good one; I
like the new philosophy very much; glad we are doing it.
Jolley said the last example you gave about transferring a Police vehicle to Zoning, in
that situation would we make a transfer of funds from Zoning to Police instead of
them selling it to a 3rd party or to the Zoning Department; is that an option in the
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philosophy instead of wrapping it and using it until it dies; this would recycle some of
that funding to a future purchase. Franey said yes that could be a part of it; that
specific example has generated a lot of discussion. Jolley said this is a perfect
example of why it is a good strategy or tactic to separate the 2 funds but not lose
sight of where there might be some redundancy in the use of vehicles and possible
uses in the City for old Police vehicles; you mentioned you just provided the form to
Jones; are we going to have a comprehensive audit of everything that we currently
have and put it through the business case form process to determine what we have
and what we can do with it in-house before we appropriate those dollars. Franey said
I am not sure this will answer the question; this is how I see it playing out, for the
money we have requested, any of those dollars that are being spent will go through
this full process; before any dollars are spent, they go to this process; whether or not
we run everything through regardless of whether it is up for replacement or not, I
don't know if we would be doing that. Jolley said why not run it all through first to
determine what we have and what we truly need and then look at the dollar amount.
Franey said what we currently have are the spreadsheets on everything. Jolley said
ok. Franey said we have all of those and have been tracking those. Jolley said for 2
or 3 years. Franey said yes; we have them on all Police equipment; all equipment
from the General Fund or Enterprise Fund; we also have spreadsheets on hourly
equipment; right now I could tell you where any piece of our equipment ranks against
any other piece of equipment. Jolley said so that is what you used to come up with
the supplemental figures. Mayor said absolutely.
Renner said what kind of reporting do you anticipate doing on this; would it be annual.
Franey said Andrako is coming up with document for how Creps will track all of these
dollars; it will be very important to tell every department exactly where they stand in
this account; it will be outstanding like everything he creates and be able to track
everything that has been done; we should be able to generate a report at given
intervals as well.
Angelou said during your process, in the 21st century everyone leases; is leasing
given a priority over actual purchase. Franey said we look at leasing; problem is end
up paying more; it can be an advantage if you have a very high dollar piece of
equipment and need to spread out the payments because you can't take that hit; we
are not in love with leasing; we don't hate it either; we are just keeping it out there as
an option; we might look at it if we need an expensive piece of equipment like in
streets.
Angelou said sometimes cars are lemons and you wonder how can it keep running;
some are old and still doing great; you would not get rid of something just because it
is old if it was still working. Franey said that is where the spreadsheet is accurate;
looking at every single factor; could have something that is newer but still have an old
model in service because it is outstanding. Angelou said concerning Police
equipment; they have so much extra equipment that has to be put on; does this
money appropriated for the 10 Police cars include all the extra components. Spence
said that includes everything; that is everything we need for a fully functional Police
cruiser; tried to get our fleet replacement more in line with the longevity and life cycle
of the equipment we put in Police cars; in old days we would turn over a vehicle every
2 years because they had such high mileage, but we still had life expectancy out of
the equipment; so we have tried to expand the life of the equipment along with the life
of the vehicle; the answer to your question was yes; that is everything to fully outfit
the 10 vehicles.
Jolley said Angelou brought up a good point about leasing; when we purchase
vehicles we get fleet rates based on the State of Ohio. Franey said we often buy
them off the State Term Contract. Jolley said are there similar programs for leasing.
Franey said I believe there are. Jolley said so we would be able to make a good
comparison looking at both options.
Angelou asked do the various gasoline tax revenue sources cover the amount being
brought forward. Teal said no; those taxes go into the Street Fund; this program is
specific to the General Fund. Franey said sometimes when the Street Fund does not
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have enough to cover everything needed, the General Fund has to supplement it; so
it is possible this General Fund account would be called upon to supplement street
equipment; there might not be enough from taxes to come over here especially with
fuel efficient cars.
Angelou said I like it. Franey said thank you. Renner said this was very good.
Sherwood said the request on the table is for a supplemental appropriation in the
amount of $515,000 for the Police Equipment; and $436,300 into the General Fund
Equipment Program. Renner said is this one ordinance. Sherwood said I believe I
can do it as one.
Angelou said do we need to establish the funds. Teal said they are not actually funds
because they are within the General Fund; they are line items so it is done
administratively.
Mayor said all the purchases will still come piece by piece with regular legislation; this
just sets the money aside. Franey said it will follow the current program; if the
expenditure needed Council action it will still need Council action.
Recommendation: 1st Reading, no need to come back; 2nd Reading, Consent
Agenda.
Police - Authorize Purchase - Police Cruisers
Next are the purchase authorizations. Sherwood said these are separate pieces of
legislation.
Spence said from Franey's presentation, you know we are asking for $515,000 to be
put into the Police Equipment Fund; from that we are asking Council to appropriate
$250,000 from that overall project cost for the purchase of the 10 vehicles; we are
asking Council to allow us under the provisions of the GCO to purchase the vehicles
from Key Chrysler in cooperation with the Hamilton County Cooperative Purchasing
Agreement; this saves us approximately $2,000 per vehicle over that of State Term
Contract; if we were to purchase from the State Term Contract we would be spending
$2,000 more on each one; so we are asking Council to specifically authorize
purchase of these in accordance with the Hamilton County contract; once this
appropriation is passed by Council, it goes into the fund, if Council is so inclined, if we
pass this with Emergency, we would be able to order these vehicles right away;
any time we can save would be of benefit; we understand that is asking a lot;
however we have a lot of aging vehicles in our fleet and that would allow us to get
these new vehicles in the order pipeline as soon as possible.
Renner said when would you take delivery. Spence said in about 90 days; then we
have another 30 to 45 days to actually build them as cruisers; so any time we save to
get them on the street is a benefit to us.
Wright said how many do we have. Spence said we have 20 total vehicles in our full
fleet. Wright said how many would go off line when these 10 come in. Spence said it
is an even swap; 10 for 10; 10 will go out of service and 10 new ones into service is
our intent; we have not purchased any new replacements since 2009; in keeping with
the new fleet program we are going to stagger these purchases in 2012 into 2 groups
to overcome the hump of 10 vehicles all at once going into service; 3 or 4 years down
the road we would have vehicles with all the same mileage; so that is a big hump to
overcome; try to lessen that impact and spread that impact over time; another
advantage of the Hamilton County contract is it expires September 30, 2012; State
Term will be re bid but will renew in mid April and we would not make that.
Wright said with the Police concern it would be wise to do this as an Emergency to
get this in the pipeline because of the number of days and lag time; that would be my
recommendation.
Angelou said are they black and white. Spence said yes. Wright said who chooses
the colors. Spence said we have incorporated the arch in our design; fire trucks are
red; Police cars are black and white; a few years ago this went back to the industry
standard to make them recognizable; we travel all over to do our jobs; they represent
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the City; we are proud of our fleet; plan to stick with the design. Renner asked do
they also need a waiver. Sherwood said then you would also have to put waiver on
the supplemental. Spence said he only needed emergency.
Recommendation: 1st Reading, no need to come back; 2nd Reading, Consent
Agenda; Emergency Language.
Parks & Rec. - Authorize Purchase Toro Mowers
Renner said we have 2 more items; next one Parks is requesting authorization to
purchase Toro mowers.
Collins said we submitted 2 items on our report; this first one is requesting
authorization to purchase 3 Toro 4000-D large area mowers; these are part of the
General Fund Equipment program and are replacements; these would be purchased
through the State Term Contract; we are respectfully requesting Emergency so that
we can get them in before one of our existing mowers goes down again and we have
to deal with down time and maintenance costs.
Jolley said what has been the impact of the early spring on Parks. Collins said we
have started mowing already; fleet has been working with us to get the equipment out
quickly; we are 26 days ahead of the growth cycle right now with plants and grass;
biggest challenge right now is resident expectations; they want to know why we don't
have beds mulched, planters out, fountains flowing and restrooms open; it is March
and will be 29 degrees tonight; that would have frozen pipes. Jolley said there was an
article in the local paper about mower repair; just wondered if any of that was
affecting us. Collins said our garage people are incredible and take good care of
equipment in the winter; we have the early out issue going on right now; the good
news is the golf course got to open a month early.
Angelou said this request is for purchase; was any consideration given to leasing.
Collins said yes; these particular pieces of equipment are not available in any lease
programs. Creps said in this instance, purchase is the best way to go. Angelou said
are you trading old ones in. Creps said Euton did the negotiations; this will go to
online auction where we will probably get a better price. Collins said the existing units
will be auctioned and provide revenue back into the fund; he is expecting from $7,000
to $10,000; the earlier we can get them on the auction block the more value we can
get from them versus trying to get another season from them.
Recommendation: 1st Reading, no need to come back; 2nd Reading, Consent
Agenda; Emergency Language.
Parks & Rec. - Authorize Purchase Buckeye Power Sales - Mowers
Renner said your next item is to authorize Buckeye Power Sales mower purchase.
Collins said these are 4 Scag zero turn mowers replacing what we have now; these
would be done on State Term Contract; hoping to auction the old units to return
funding back into the program; we did work with the fleet department to insure we are
selecting the right equipment.
Angelou clarified when the old equipment is auctioned off the money would go back
into General Fund Equipment. Teal said that is correct.
Wright said how many people do we have working in fleet maintenance. Creps said 4
mechanics. Wright said do we solicit to other communities for fleet maintenance
services. Mayor said yes we do. Wright said would that money go into the General
Fund into this program. Franey said in a sense it does; we are asking the General
Fund to supply dollars to these line items; so it does exactly what you are thinking.
Angelou said do you want an action on the new Fleet Philosophy; or a resolution from
us endorsing that philosophy, or is it just a policy being put in place. Franey said my
thinking is it is a policy to be put in place but we are open. Mayor said I would look to
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Ewald; can one Council bind the next one; can we put it in legislation. Angelou said it
should just be a resolution of endorsement. Mayor said that would be good; incoming
Councils would understand the commitment of this Council and make it clear what
we wanted to do; just not sure we can make it legally binding. Angelou said then just
a resolution in support of this policy. Ewald said you could do that through a
resolution process. Mayor said we will work on that.
Recommendation: 1st Reading, no need to come back; 2nd Reading, Consent
Agenda; Emergency Language.
Mayor said her department will work on drafting a resolution of support for the fleet
philosophy.
Della Brandenberger, Reporting
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