Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · May 14, 2012
Minutes
Office of the Clerk of Council
City of Gahanna 200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Committee of the Whole
Stephen A. Renner, Chair
Beryl D. Anderson
Karen J. Angelou
Ryan P. Jolley
Brian D. Larick
David L. Samuel
Brandon Wright
Monday, May 14, 2012 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
Present 7 - Stephen A. Renner, Brandon Wright, Beryl Anderson, Karen J. Angelou,
Ryan P. Jolley, Brian D. Larick, and David L. Samuel
Additional Attendees:
Mayor Stinchcomb, Brandi Braun, Dottie Franey, Karl Wetherholt, Sue Wadley, Mike
Andrako, Gen. Williams, Chief Murphy, Shane Ewald, Jennifer Teal, Joann Bury,
Tony Collins, Isobel Sherwood, Brian Hoyt, Tom Kneeland, Press.
PENDING LEGISLATION:
ORD-0096-2012 TO AUTHORIZE THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO REVIEW AND
UPDATE AN INVESTMENT POLICY FOR THE CITY OF GAHANNA
Renner called the meeting for Monday, May 14, 2012, to order; we want to thank you
for waiting while we were in executive session; the first agenda item is the investment
policy.
Teal said I do not have a planned presentation; are there any questions.
Larick said we have discussed this for the last couple of sessions in the Finance
Committee; the goal is to establish a framework, and it is the same for the Debt
Policy, in Code to regularly review it; our Finance Director has put it together subject
to approval by Council; our existing policy is static; the core investment and debt
strategies should be evaluated periodically; we felt it was prudent to bring this to
Committee of the Whole for discussion and questions.
Samuel said how did you come up with the dates for retention. Teal said it is 5 years
on the Investment Policy which matches the Ohio Revised Code (ORC); 5 years is a
common thread; we can't hold most securities for longer than 5 years; the alternative
would be they sit too long and the market changes due to the economy or regulations
change and we could look at it sooner if appropriate; so 5 years seemed to be a good
middle ground; this issue came up at a good time as Bury and I have been chatting
with our investment professionals and they are approachable and consistent with
their information.
Samuel said how do you keep those discussions from being sales efforts for their
own products. Teal said you don't; we buy from brokers and they take a commission;
we are limited with what we invest in; there is such a small sliver of the market that is
appropriate that there is no room for crazy deals; with this tight market it is the one
who calls first who gets the business; there is an alternative model where we could
use an independent broker who charges a fee for services and does not profit from
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the sale of products; that person may have the City's best interest at heart and could
provide a bigger picture; so we have all these folks helping; we are meeting with
professionals, getting their input and deciding if we are going to use that model or
tweak what we have now.
Angelou said I believe we need to look at the professionals who have the City's best
interest in mind with investments. Teal said it is an attractive concept, but not without
cost. Angelou said what other ways do we have to accomplish it; Teal said what we
are working on now is in flux; some of our professionals have moved to different
firms; I think with the element of asking the right questions that I can get them to
dance in order to keep our business; we could get more service and not pay any
more; we will make a recommendation when we have finalized a plan.
Angelou said so you will come back to us when done. Teal said yes.
Samuel said in your opinion have we been too conservative and subsequently missed
opportunities. Teal said not with our decisions; we have a poor policy that is overly
restrictive; the terms are enumerated with every possible scenario in the ORC; if our
goal was to mirror that, because of market changes we are no longer doing that.
Renner asked for any other questions; there were none.
ORD-0097-2012 TO AUTHORIZE THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO CREATE A
DEBT POLICY FOR THE CITY OF GAHANNA
See discussion under ORD-0096-2012 Investment Policy.
ORD-0099-2012 TRANSFER OF FUNDS - Transfer to Capital Improvement
Renner said the next item is the transfer of funds to the Capital Improvement Fund.
Larick said I was the one that requested we bring this back to committee for a point
of discussion; we need to realize this is different than a supplemental; here we are
taking out a sum of money from the General Fund and the money is not intended for
use immediately to buy an item; it is just a way to structure funds for future capital
improvements; I looked at the items we have been buying so far this year; we have
spent half a million dollars in supplementals so far; this transfer is additional money;
represents items that have their own life; even with money in the account, we still
have to pay on going; so I reiterate my concern that we do not have a replacement
revenue plan for that. Teal said the Mayor and I have looked at tax budget data; don't
want my answer to sound snarky, but if we don't spend the money, the costs will be
more and go up with an ongoing replacement cycle; like streets, the long term cost is
much higher after degradation over time; the repairs are more expensive; however
the point about the sustainability of the fund is correct; there is not a long term
funding source; the budget documents will be presented in 2 weeks; there we can
see if there is a difference in what we think we need and what we are bringing in with
the one time money; could be possible the needs are bigger than what we have; the
current request of 2.7 million is just stating it is the will of Council for this much capital
infrastructure and it is protected for use for that; the decision was made knowing that
we have a lot of capital needs and this is just opening the discussion on priorities.
Larick said the items in funds conceptually have a life span; so would another half
million in revenue cover this. Teal said no; with current long term projections for these
types of items, I don't believe so. Larick said I have significant concerns with
spending money in bulk with no plan to replace it. Jolley said so we let our roads
deteriorate. Larick said if we shut our eyes today, then it is a problem for someone
else tomorrow. Jolley said so what is the alternative.
Angelou said it is important to maintain our roads since they impact the quality of life
here. Teal said allocating to the Capital Improvement Fund is limiting; it can only be
used for infrastructure; roads, buildings, physical assets. Angelou said we could
always add money to the pot. Larick said where does the money come from to add to
the pot. Angelou said it is a guesstimate. Larick said the money is not there for
renewal. Teal said we can wait and see; we are using our best guess on a 5 year
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forecast; it is an educated guess; next step, tax issues; that is part of the equation; if
there is a revised request we should discuss it and it is timing issue; this is a
bookmark; the math is to figure out what dollars come from where; conversations we
will be having in the coming weeks will shed light on the long term picture. Larick said
ok.
ORD-0100-2012 TO AMEND THE CIVIL SERVICE RULES AND REGULATIONS AS
DATED APRIL 10, 2012.
Sherwood said this was discussed last time and it was requested to come back to
Committee; I am open for questions. Wright said the questions I had were resolved in
reading it.
ISSUES - From Clerk of Council:
Board & Commission Pay
Sherwood said I provided a detailed memo on Board and Commission pay; with Civil
Service changing to make it an Appellate Board, I had said when done, I would
request to change their pay from a per month to a per meeting basis; since we were
looking at that, I decided to bring forward all compensation for Boards and
Commissions; some of you weren't aware of their pay; I reviewed with Collins the
Landscape Board and Parks Board; they were set in 1997; then they met every
month; now they don't meet that often, so I am also requesting we change them to
per meeting pay rather than per month; Collins also requested the minimum number
of meetings be changed to 4 from 6 for Landscape Board; if they need more they
can add meetings, but they need to do at least 4. Wright said how often does
Planning Commission meet. Sherwood said 4 times a month - 2 regular meetings
and 2 workshops if needed. Samuel said he was fine with it.
Recommendation; 1st Reading, no need to come back; 2nd Reading , Consent
Agenda for 4 Ordinances.
Accept Deed/Parkland Drive
Sherwood said we occasionally run into old deeds that have not been accepted;
found this one to an old pump station next to Big Walnut behind the Gahanna Swim
Club from the 1960s; it is recorded, just not accepted; this was researched; Weber
always wanted deeds accepted for tracking purposes and Ewald concurs with that
policy and with this request; we would like the standard acceptance ordinance for this
old deed.
Recommendation; 1st Reading, no need to come back; 2nd Reading , Consent
Agenda.
Vacation of Easement, Reserve B, Hunters Ridge
Sherwood said this request comes from the City Engineer with a Planning
Commission recommendation to vacate an easement at Hunters Ridge Apartments;
Columbia Gas released it in 1968 and because it is a platted easement we also need
to do that; there are no facilities.
Recommendation; 1st Reading, no need to come back; 2nd Reading , Consent
Agenda.
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Ward Redistricting
Sherwood said ward redistricting is usually done the year after the census; we look at
the wards to see if they are in balance or if they need to be rebalanced; last year was
an election year so it was not done then in order to not affect the election; I started
gathering information in January of this year and that is the information presented to
you tonight; open to discuss this, or if you want to think about it we can; between
2001 and 2012 we only went up by 600 registered voters; since 2006, wards 1 and 3
have declined while 2 and 4 have increased; in 2006 we looked at the numbers and
chose not to do any changes; there is also a chart with changes by precinct and the
numbers by precinct within each ward.
Samuel said is the process looked at by our group or a committee. Sherwood said in
2001 we had a committee but we did not have a lot of participation; in 2006 Council
chose not to do anything.
Angelou said we were careful to not change any wards so that it would affect the
election; we would do our best to keep people in their same ward; however they did
need to be as even as possible; it doesn't look too bad now but it was very much out
of balance then; now ward 4 has declined; ward 2 has gotten larger; it would be an
easy fix to move boundaries; just take some from 2 to 4 then it would be balanced;
does have to be done contiguously; not horribly off; in 2001 we drew air lines; the
Board of Elections doesn't like that but we did that to try to get the same amount in
each one; we could have Council persons from wards 2 and 4 look at it.
Anderson said I would like to look at it more closely; after seeing what was done at
the state level, we should understand the importance of this; is there a process to
make these determinations. Sherwood said we have a list of all registered voters;
previously, we had a map that covered the table; we drew lines and evaluated person
by person; would be easier today using a computer; the Republican and Democratic
committeemen were also looked at so as not to affect them..
Samuel said do you have a proposed start and end date. Sherwood said would like to
see it done by the end of the year; could consider a special committee now or after
the budget discussions; I am out of town next week, Angelou said we could get by
looking at 5 to 600 of them. Wright said I think we need to look at all of them.
Angelou said they need to be at about the 6,000 mark; we could get together and use
the same ordinance that outlines how it is done.
Mayor asked is there a cost. Sherwood said we would have to have surveys of the
ward boundaries; if we made changes to all we would need about $2,500 for that.
Anderson said that is reasonable; who would do that. Sherwood said I would suggest
Terra Surveying; they did this for us in 2001 so they have the raw data which would
save some money; the ward boundaries are codified; so we need an Ordinance to
enter into that contract; then when done, we would need an Ordinance to adopt the
new boundaries; it has to be filed with the Board of Elections. Wright said so we are
leaving the drawing of the boundary lines to this company. Sherwood said we do the
work; they do just the legal survey when we are done. Renner said there is no risk if
we put this issue back to July or August. Sherwood said with my schedule, I would
ask you to do it in July after the budget, because I am gone for parts of August and
September and I do not want to wait until the end of the year. Renner said I don't
think we understand the process; it needs committee oversight and now we are
talking about ward member participation and doing a survey. Sherwood said we have
surveys of the current wards; we would need surveys of redrawn wards. Renner said
I think we should delay until July. Anderson said is there anything that needs to be
done upfront. Sherwood said I have done it; put the numbers together. Samuel said I
agree with waiting; put together a special committee in July; we need to know what
was done. Larick said it is a standard political process. Angelou said we just go out
and figure out the numbers using maps; we have the precincts on there. Sherwood
said the Board of Elections sets the precincts. Anderson said I agree with July.
Wright said we shouldn't be relying on the Council Clerk to oversee the details; we
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should look at this at street level and it doesn't have to be done as before; we need to
take some time to look into the process including what would be a good schedule.
Larick said the Council Clerk has to be involved. Wright said not to the point where it
depends on her schedule to make it happen; we need to determine what our
approach will be; and then establish a committee if needed. Angelou said we were
just saying the history of how it has been done; she did head the process previously
in 2001, and with 4 members on the committee, only 2 people showed up to the
meetings and did all the work; that would be the Clerk and me; it ended up that we
did a good job and it was balanced.
Samuel said the majority requests you bring it back in July.
Recommendation; Return to Committee of the Whole in July.
ISSUES - From City Attorney:
Transfer of Funds
Ewald said as we begin the budget process, we have Attorney funds set aside in
different accounts; we have a need at this time to transfer $50,000 from the general
account to the special account for Creekside. Sherwood said didn't we lower the
amount to $25,000. Ewald said I wasn't sure it got changed in the RCA; it is $25,000.
Sherwood said it is a motion resolution.
Recommendation; Motion Resolution, Consent Agenda.
ISSUES - From Mayor's Office:
Performance Measurement
Braun said the Mayor and I have worked with Larick on an opportunity for enhanced
Performance Measurement; the current request is for a supplemental of $10,000 to
allow us to join the International City Management (ICMA) Center for Performance
Measurement which we have determined is the best place to do this; most City
departments have some measurements of the work performed; don't have a system
to determine what is measured and how it is done year to year; this would give us
comparative performance measurements which tells us how we stack up with similar
communities; there are 3 reasons to do this; one is to learn what are the best
practices; shows us what is sometimes not working and what to change; lots of
examples of how to save money; second is allocating money and determining where
it should go; this would complement our resident survey and where we fall using best
processes; and the third is to be more accountable to our stakeholders; the cost is for
an annual fee of $5,550 and one time training costs of $4,000; we are working with
the ICMA to perhaps share the training costs.
Larick said I can provide some background; about a year ago we were talking about
how we measure performance; there are vendors that advertise this service; then at
the end of last year, at work, I ran into various programs about maximizing and
optimizing performance; determined it is a problem to measure this at a high level
and how to measure; I made contact with several organizations; talked to a Director
at OSU and thought maybe we could pursue this as a project or academically; I
traded emails and looked for any groups that do performance measurements and
that had the experience; Braun brought this organization forward and we looked at
what they brought to the table; here we are not recreating the wheel; they have data
to do comparisons; we can find communities that are the mirror image of us and be
able to determine where we fit; whether we are lower or higher performing and
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evaluate how effective we are at funding; this came to be the best option.
Samuel said so basically that is the purpose of this whole thing. Braun said it will be
able to tell us how to spend and save; possibly in areas we never even realized.
Wright said I don't like using performance measures as a basis to judge; don't want
the individuals running departments to have to fear each objective that they perhaps
didn't meet; we need to make sure as we are building our current brand that this is
not the sole source we measure performance on; we need to encompass more than
just these performance measures.
Braun said this is quantitative measures only; we could take the issue of how we plow
snow; they come forward and see how we do it; may or may not be a better way out
there; we may change or we may say no; we want to be at the top but there is no
right answer; it is just providing information. Wright said I like that. Angelou said we
should focus on services; this says they monitor community obesity; that is not a
government responsibility; there are no senior services or job creation efforts listed;
there is an educational component; that is not our responsibility as well as fire and
EMS since the townships do that; we are not part of the library system; really not a
question for all of those things; can we pick and choose. Braun said we just picked
some interesting comparisons; we can pick and choose within those; in addition to
the national reporting, we can become part of the Central Ohio Consortium; this is
more region specific and has measures discussed regularly like senior services.
Angelou said the schools may want to co op and use this. Jolley said we looked at
walkability; that would be a really good collaboration with the schools; not every state
has this community structure so you can look at those that do; my question would be
who attends the training. Braun said we plan to send representatives from all
departments. Jolley said can we go. Braun said yes.
Anderson said is there anyone else doing this. Braun said no; this group has been
around. Anderson said what if there is a factor not listed; can we add one. Braun said
yes; it is a member driven process; to add to the national scope may not be easy, but
to the local consortium which is the most valuable, we can add other measures.
Anderson said it is nice to know they will compare what we need.
Angelou said it is a better way to get information and to communicate with the other
communities; we would be working together at some level now that the job poaching
agreement has fallen apart.
Recommendation; 1st Reading, no need to come back; 2nd Reading , Consent
Agenda.
Samuel said there is no Finance Committee meeting tonight.
Renner said meeting adjourned.
Della Brandenberger, Reporting
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