Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · July 13, 2015
Minutes
Office of the Clerk of Council
City of Gahanna 200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Committee of the Whole
Stephen A. Renner, Chair, Karen J. Angelou, Ryan P. Jolley, Thomas R. Kneeland
Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg, Michael Schnetzer
Kimberly McWilliams, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, July 13, 2015 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
CALL TO ORDER
Tom Kneeland called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
ADDITIONAL ATTENDEES: Mayor Stinchcomb, Dottie Franey, Rob
Priestas, Jennifer Teal, Joann Bury, Rory Gaydos, Anthony Jones,
Troy Euton, Jeannie Hoffman, Joe Gergley, Diana Redman, Kim
McWilliams, Jeffrey Spence, strategic planning candidates, Eric Miller,
Andy Piccolantonio, Thomas Liszkay, Vinnie Tremante, residents,
press.
Present 6 - Thomas R. Kneeland, Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg, Karen J.
Angelou, Michael Schnetzer, and Ryan P. Jolley
Absent 1 - Stephen A. Renner
PENDING LEGISLATION from the Director of Parks & Recreation on Big
Walnut Trail Section 5:
ORD-0072-2015 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT WITH
COLUMBUS ASPHALT PAVING, INC. OF 1196 TECHNOLOGY
DRIVE GAHANNA, OHIO 43230 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF BIG
WALNUT TRAIL SECTION 5; TO SUPPLEMENTALLY
APPROPRIATE $60,000; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.
This Ordinance is being introduced and assigned to the Committee of
the Whole.
Kneeland introduced the pending legislation; Troy Euton, Director of
Parks & Recreation, presented the project to include the history,
alternatives that were looked at, planning and analysis, citizen
concerns, and consequences of not moving forward with the project
now; the Big Walnut Trail (BWT) is a top priority of Gahanna citizens
as indicated in four separate surveys since 2006; Gahanna has
received over 1.5 million dollars in grants to assist with trail
construction; alternative alignments were shown (see attached
powerpoint) along with the proposed plan for the BWT section 5;
noted there is property highlighted that is privately owned and the
owner of the property was on board with allowing the trail to cross on
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their property, but since have made other development plans; another
alternate route crosses onto the boardwalk, which has shown to be
very slick and not safe for future trail development; would have to
rebuild it to replicate the boardwalk on section 3 which is very costly
and time consuming; exploring another alternate route, the financial
impact changes from $600,000 to over 1.2 million dollars; the sledding
hill and golf course impacts are of concern to residents; the hill that
residents call the "better hill" will be compromised while the other hill
will still be an option; the golf course impact for the first 200 yards will
be within the rough side of the fairway; the golf cart path would be
impacted but there would be a standard four-way stop in place to
manage; from a sustainability perspective we are currently struggling
with the practice green; not confident it would remain with or without
this trail project; it would be removed with this project; majority of staff
does not believe this negatively impacts the golf course; do not believe
there would be a negative financial impact; the southern sledding hill
would be eliminated by the trail project because of the fence and the
trail itself; the fence is a resident concern because of its level of
attraction; the fencing is necessary for protection and to keep trail
users safe; cannot build a trail near the golf course without some sort
of protection, at least in the areas where it is imminent; showed a
picture of a fence that is proposed to be built; noted the proposed
fence would be all black; black tends to disappear and blend with the
environment; you can see through the fence; the view would not be
impacted; over the last week have talked with engineers and staff to
try and mitigate some of the concerns but not redesign the trail;
extending would impact the grant being received; have looked at
areas where part of the fence could be removed; it is possible to
reduce it significantly; if we cleared out trees to move the fence toward
the north a bit and go through the trees; the sledding hill would stay
primarily intact; that change would mean we are removing trees and
need elevation work; typically go by ADA standards for the slope
elevation; this option will move a section of the fencing back so it is not
as close to the fairway as it is today and may mitigate the concerns
golfers have with the fence; Leeseberg asked about the protection for
the over-shots; Euton showed the areas where the fence would
protect trail users from the number one and number three green;
discussed removing a section of the fence that is around 150 feet that
they do not believe is necessary; would want to keep the section of the
fence behind the greens; would also want to keep the fence from the
tee to the 200 yard point for protection; Leeseberg asked where the
preferred area meets; Euton said it connects at Creekside Island; an
area called the driving range is on property not owned by the City and
we cannot control that; Kneeland asked what it would take to eliminate
the fence all together; Euton said the option that allows that is to move
the trail across the street and there are numerous private property
driveways that would need easements; another alternative was along
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US-62 near the old FOP Lodge (409 E Johnstown Road) but there is
not enough horizontal clearance because of the river bank erosion
and the size of the right of way; from an expense perspective
easements for each property owner was eliminated when the project
was originally presented; Kneeland said with a project of this
magnitude how many public engagement meetings have we had;
Euton said there was an open house in 2007 when the plan was
developed; there were about 40-50 people who attended; said the
fence was not shown at that time; detailed plans have developed
since then to move forward with the project; Leeseberg confirmed we
are receiving a $500,000 grant if the project is completed this year;
Euton said yes; if we cannot complete the project by the end of the
year we can ask for an extension but we get point penalties which will
impact grants in the future; this grant has already been awarded to us
but we will get penalized for not completing the project in time; in the
future we will receive less money toward grants because we will be
lower on the list from point penalties; Jolley confirmed it was ten points
for each six month delay; Euton said it would take at minimum another
year to re-engineer and rebuild the project; would impact one cycle of
grants; Schnetzer asked about the section to the west of the first and
third green; asked if we changed that would the ADA would have a
slope requirement; Euton confirmed; Angelou said traveling downtown
on High Street there are bike paths along the street; asked if parts of
Olde Ridenour Road could be designated part of the path instead of
impacting the golf course; Euton said it is possible; Angelou said the
safe route to school along US-62 near the old FOP Lodge would be
possible to include; said connectivity to trails is important but so is the
golfers who have been in the City for forty plus years; Euton said he
would say no to both options; as we are discussing the BWT which is
an off-road ten foot wide trail for all users, which include families who
would likely not use a path on Olde Ridenour Road with young
children; the trail is not specifically just for bicycle users; this is a
regional multi-use trail that will be highly used; BWT plan goes from
Morse Road to Pizzuro and is a five mile stretch; connects to the
metro parks; believes we will have complaints in the future from trail
users if we go that route; Jolley asked about traffic being heavy and
fast along Olde Ridenour Road; our City Attorney Shane Ewald looked
into this; asked for an update from when this was reviewed previously;
Ewald said the original owner is somewhere in the UK and the
company is out of business; found a transfer of interest to the City
dated in the late '80s, early '90s and would have to go to court to
revert it back; there was a problem with how it was signed; you could
reduce the speed and would recommend speaking with the police
department; Jolley said they discussed making the road one-way;
Ewald said yes you could make it a one-way or restrict the type of
traffic, as along as it is not permanently closed; Jolley said grant
funding is important and needed but we need to reevaluate the
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project; Mayor reminded Council that when we discussed altering Olde
Ridenour Road there was a high volume of complaints from citizens;
Euton said we can plant along the fence but he does not recommend
it; could also plant trees to hide Olde Ridenour Road; does not believe
the fence is an end-all with the trail; need to look at other trails that
have been built; professional opinion is that the golf community will be
fine and it will not impact the play of the golf course; reminded
everyone that when section 3 was built there was a resident concern
about the trail going in near his backyard; just received an email from
that resident several weeks ago that said he was wrong and uses the
trail with his family on a regular basis; hoping Council gets the
opportunity to hear from the citizens who do want the trails and not
just the citizens who do not want this impact; Angelou asked if the
Parks & Recreation Board supported the decision; Euton said it was
not voted in favor of the project; said they are concerned about the
sledding hill and the golf course impact; Schnetzer asked the costs of
alternative B; Euton said just with the fence changes is around
$50,000; cost neutral; option B still needs discussed with the
contractor; need to have unit prices in place; Darrell Miller and Angela
Fedak, traffic engineers with OHM Advisors were involved in the
process; Larick asked what the path of the trail going south is; Euton
said the section of boardwalk is in place that does not algae up and
runs up to the US-62 bank and proceeds south; will eventually go
under IR-270 with this trail; Larick asked east of cemetery, where does
the property line end; a route going just to the east of the cemetery
was by-passed; Euton said elevation is vastly different; did not look at
the trail through the cemetery.
RECOMMENDATION: Second Reading, Regular Agenda.
2015-0140 Supporting Documents from the Parks & Recreation Department
ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE
1. Strategic Planning Facilitator Presentations
Jennifer Teal introduced the strategic planning firms; said there is a
huge impact and need for this path to take us from desires to
measurable outcomes; asked three firms to come and present; senior
staff met with each of these groups earlier today for about two hours
each.
Jeremy Stephens with Managing Results with Marv Weidner, CEO,
said they are focused on results for customers; a company created in
1998; have worked with over 25 jurisdictions; now have over $37
billion dollars tied to results for customers; said our process is
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replicable; can go through the process over and over again and see
results; Health Board of Franklin County (ADAMH) used their
company and still use their strategic plan; have learned that if
government focuses on results, those results are achievable; the right
results are the experiences of the residents and the impact they
receive from receiving services from the City; budget needs to align
with results; employees need to feel they contribute to results; noted
the City already reports performance and collects data; Weidner said
we need to look at what the citizens of Gahanna and employees want
to see; the real work starts when they start talking with residents;
would also do a business round-table; one-size does not fit all and
need to evaluate each topic individually; when a project plan is
developed need to ask why we want a plan and what we want to see
happen; prior to a planning retreat where Council will make decisions,
each Council member would be interviewed; in a retreat the input is
summarized; priorities are summarized; there then will be measurable,
time-specific goals; strategic results are expressed as measurable
customer plans; results will make it possible for the organization to
focus on those results; implementation planning will then follow; a
table was shown to show how information for managing and
information for budgeting and reporting will be measured.
Schnetzer asked if there were two opportunities for town hall meetings
with residents; Weidner said that is what was proposed; Schnetzer
asked what other options we will look at; Weidner said surveys via
phone, newspapers, in the mail, and many other ways; will reach the
community, that is the goal; there is still work ahead and we know we
need public engagement; Weidner said strategic planning is a learning
process; Jolley said they indicate asking the same question to the
public and asked how it will inform us; Weidner said they've reached
out to the citizens in other cities and there are over five billion dollars
in development needs that the citizens were requesting; have found
that if we ask this question we want to look at the next 5 years and see
what is important; will then evaluate the priorities based on that
knowledge; decide what is most important; not a general statement, it
is a very specific statement about what we will change and what we
will influence using city government; recommend it is revisited every
two years to constantly move forward; Kneeland asked if they provide
a tool-set to measure success; Weidner said absolutely; working on a
dashboard system; Angelou asked what they did with ADAMH;
Weidner said in one case, the staff believed the vendors were the
customer; that is how they were measuring their performance; they
completely missed the target; ADAMH results were from recovery;
their next levy passed by over 60%; their story is now about the
customer; the customer does not care about what we are doing, they
care about the results they are seeing.
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Teal said we will now be hearing from Managing Partners; Amy Paul
said they are located in Cincinnati; work with local government all over
the country; understands that what works in one city may not work in
this City; noted they helped Westerville with their success measures;
they were successful; Jacquelyn McCray introduced herself; has a
background in civic engagement; Paul said there are two other team
members who will be available to help; have a lot of ideas about things
that may work in the City; will design the proper measures after
dialogue; discussed their need for understanding the performance of
the city's project; will not conflict with other priorities and plans the City
is working on; will identify current and future concerns; look at
projections and trends internally and externally; will conduct
community workshops; engage the customers, the residents, the
business owners, the visitors; will engage members of Council in a
strategic planning session in an interactive workshop; this is about
setting direction so staff can carry that out in the coming years; will
then prepare a strategic plan; develop and show what success looks
like; will then prepare a implementation action plan; Montgomery BBQ
is a client and was given a five year plan and when that five years was
up they came back for another plan; were trained on techniques;
engagement techniques will include virtual and physical town halls,
surveys, focus groups, public forums to prioritize goals, public input
and comments throughout the City website, and social media; noted
that word clouds help to show priorities and those are used; also
believe it is important to be visually attractive; showed logos they have
worked on; the people that the City will be working with throughout this
project know local government; also know what is important
incrementally; said they survey their clients and the president follows
up on everything in the end; committed to quality.
Larick asked what the outcome looks like in terms of performance
measurement; Paul said will vary and will be based on how the
strategic plan is developed; another city used a dashboard, scorecard
system; Montgomery is looking at business retention; whether or not
they have met their business visits; financial measures are fairly
straight forward; Larick asked about the structure of methodology;
Paul said the leaders of the organization need to embrace
measurement and use it on a regular basis and not just use it every
six months or for certain reports; said to build it into staff meetings and
one on one meetings; Larick asked about the methodology to get to
those metrics; Paul said they work with staff to measure that and ask
what they are measuring and where does the data come from; McCray
said those questions are asked in their initial interviews; Kneeland
asked if they get into business process; Paul said they can but it is not
involved in this proposal; Kneeland asked if they engage with private
sector; Paul said they are primarily government focused although they
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have worked with the private sector.
Jamie Greene and Sarah Bongiorno with planning NEXT; based in
Columbus; have a strong local and national reputation; local clients
include MORPC, Columbus 2020, The Ohio State University;
organized the aftermath in New York after 9/11; the approach would
be to build upon the City's recent work, facilitate meaningful
engagement, create an innovative action agenda, provide a
foundation for results, and be inclusive and transparent; want to meet
the range of interest with the community; structure the process in a
way that is suitable; will begin by getting grounded by conducting
interviews, listening and learning, with work sessions, and then finally
adoption; will gather lots of raw input; said they had a good meeting
with staff earlier today; want to note their philosophy is about a choice;
need majority of the community to hear about this; Bongiorno said to
communicate the strategy to Gahanna we will utilize the resources we
have and will brand and identify the process; recognizes the
importance to take it to the community; noted that transparency is
important; will allow for ample lead time into the meetings; will conduct
open meetings; will post the work; and will make engagement
convenient; public involvement has two stages: generating along with
analyzing and deliberating; believe strongly in face to face
engagement but understands we are at a time where people like to
interact through technology; Greene said their implementation will
involve measurable outcomes, clear responsibility, budget
organization, institutionalizing, and creating regular progress reports;
understands there is a continuous monitoring that occurs and a
continuous effort.
Larick asked what their work with Upper Arlington was and when;
Greene said it was in early 2000 and it was a community plan and a
vision; continue to help them after the vision plan; Jolley asked about
Westerville; Greene said there is an initiative currently called "imagine
Westerville" that can be looked up; have been supporting them for the
last 14 months; Jolley asked who is included on the steering
committee; Greene said there needs to be a community identified
group; would like there to be someone that everyone can relate to in
that group; recommend we work with the staff to get that type of
group; in Cary, North Carolina, they wanted to get new folks involved
on their committees; came up with a plan that yielded 400 plus
applicants; Angelou asked how they go about bringing people in that
are not typically part of the process but could lend a good voice;
Greene said there are people who are not comfortable speaking in
front of others and some who are in leadership positions and don't
make it priority; said their objective is making those people feel
comfortable and needed speaking and bringing forward their ideas;
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need to create a general awareness and trust with new residents;
believe strongly in word of mouth marketing; Kneeland asked what
differentiates this company from the others in this arena; Greene said
they are a relatively small group and they are just nine miles away;
they are very passionate about what they do; they are familiar with
initiatives around Columbus; said they have gotten great results;
would like to see bigger opportunities happen outside of government
relationships.
Teal said from the staff perspective they have spent the day with
these firms; anticipate the next step is hearing from senior staff; said
she will reach out to Council after they have had a chance to sleep on
the presentations; ideally would like to have a contract to Council in
the next meeting or two; happy to answer any questions about their
experiences earlier in the day; Mayor Stinchcomb suggested everyone
read the proposals thoroughly and take a look at the process from
beginning to end.
2015-0135 Strategic Planning Supporting Documents
ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT
1. Request to rezone 4.1 acre parcel at Olde Ridenour Road & McCutcheon
Road to Suburban Office
Jones said Planning Commission has approved two zonings; this one
is 4.1 acres off Olde Ridenour at McCutcheon Road; currently zoned
Restricted Institutional District (RID) and the proposed rezoning is to
Suburban Office (SO); was originally zoned SO and property owners
were forced to change by the City; they are no longer planning to be a
church; property just south of this property is zoned SO; there was
much discussion at Planning Commission of traffic; the proposed
zoning allows for more uses; property owners have not committed to a
particular use; senior living is of interest; Planning Commission had
multiple workshops and ultimately recommended the rezoning to
Council; Angelou asked if there were proponents or opponents; Jones
said there were opponents initially; Schnetzer noted the intent is
senior living; asked what the risk of ending up with another use is;
Jones said the risk associated with higher volume of traffic would
include an office; that would likely generate 444 daily traffic counts
and senior living would generate 126; could go to single-family but
would require different zoning; Schnetzer asked if there were any
height restrictions; Jones said restrictions fall under FAA or parking
ratios; would not be looking at a five story office building going in;
Larick asked about the number of zoning changes without a project
plan in place; Jones said he is not aware of the number right now;
Kneeland said we want to make sure we protect that area; Jolley said
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the plan shows a future land use being single-family; Jones said it was
then zoned SO and the plan was not as consistent; feels the
neighboring property would be comparable for the area; said there is a
park to the north; Jolley asked if there would be access from
McCutcheon; Jones said he believes it will be only from Olde Ridenour
Road except for emergency access.
RECOMMENDATION: Public Hearing, 1st Reading.
2. Request to rezone 1.6 acre parcel at 5069 Morse Road to Community
Commercial
Jones said this is a small single-family parcel off Morse Road;
applicant requests rezoning to Community Commercial (CC); plans to
develop a veterinarian clinic; there was a lot of discussion within
Planning Commission on this zoning; there was an easement that
provided access for the housing next door; Kneeland asked if there
was consideration for an overlay; Jones said he believes so but it was
not recommended; neighbors were concerned there would be a
kennel and there will not be; Kneeland suggests we would need an
overlay; Jones said this was recommended to Council on June 10th;
Leeseberg asked if there was concern in regards to traffic count for
this property; Priestas said it looks like a low traffic generator plan that
will be in place; will look more into it when they have a Final
Development Plan; said they will then evaluate the ingress/egress;
Kneeland asked what is on either side of the property; Jones said to
the west is zoned CC, and to the east it is multi-family; Angelou asked
if there were opponents; Jones said there were residents with
concerns in regards to the kennel but they have since discussed that
and mitigated concerns; Leeseberg said he lives across the street
from the applicant's current dog center and he has never heard a dog;
McWilliams said the applicant has worked out concerns with residents.
RECOMMENDATION: Public Hearing, 1st Reading.
2015-0139 Supporting Documents from Development
ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES
1. Amendments to the Unclassified, Supervisory, Command and Part-time
Personnel Ordinances
Teal said she is speaking on behalf of Sue Wadley, Human
Resources Director; noted the first topic is related to military leave; it
was clear with a recent process that there is a need to get those
sections up to code effective immedately and alter some of the
wording; second topic is changing the sick leave payout; currently we
provide 50% payout for sick leave for the first 1200 hours and 25%
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after that; proposing to reduce the payout for those who leave to 30%
up to 1200 hours and 25% for the remainder, and increase payout for
those who stay and retire with the city to 60% up to 1200 hours and
25% for the remainder; this is in an effort to reward the employees
who stay with the city; there will also be minor wording changes
throughout to help maintain the heading on the top of each page;
requesting emergency upon passage; Jolley asked where the federal
or state statues for sick leave fall; Teal said they are in place and that
is that what we would default to if nothing in place, but most
communities have a policy in place for their sick leave.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda, Emergency Language.
2015-0137 Supporting Documents from the Director of Human Resources
ADJOURNMENT 9:38
Kayla Holbrook, Reporting
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Committee of the Whole
Stephen A. Renner, Chair, Karen J. Angelou, Ryan P. Jolley, Thomas R. Kneeland
Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg, Michael Schnetzer
Kimberly McWilliams, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, July 13, 2015 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
PENDING LEGISLATION from the Director of Parks & Recreation on Big Walnut
Trail Section 5:
ORD-0072-2015 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT WITH
COLUMBUS ASPHALT PAVING, INC. OF 1196 TECHNOLOGY DRIVE
GAHANNA, OHIO 43230 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF BIG
WALNUT TRAIL SECTION 5; TO SUPPLEMENTALLY APPROPRIATE
$60,000; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.
This Ordinance is being introduced and assigned to the Committee of
the Whole.
2015-0140 Supporting Documents from the Parks & Recreation Department
ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE
1. Strategic Planning Facilitator Presentations
2015-0135 Strategic Planning Supporting Documents
ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT
1. Request to rezone 4.1 acre parcel at Olde Ridenour Road & McCutcheon
Road to Suburban Office
2. Request to rezone 1.6 acre parcel at 5069 Morse Road to Community
Commercial
2015-0139 Supporting Documents from Development
ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES
1. Amendments to the Unclassified, Supervisory, Command and Part-time
Personnel Ordinances
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2015-0137 Supporting Documents from the Director of Human Resources
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