Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · October 24, 2016
Minutes
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Committee of the Whole
Brian D. Larick, Chair
Stephen A. Renner, Brian Metzbower
Nancy R. McGregor, Karen J. Angelou
Michael Schnetzer, Jamie Leeseberg
Kimberly Banning, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, October 24, 2016 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Larick called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
ADDITIONAL ATTENDEES: Joann Bury, Mayor Tom Kneeland,
Jennifer Teal, Kimberly Banning, Shane Ewald, Chief Brad Shull,
Chief Dennis Murphy, Dottie Franey, Abby Cochran, Rob Priestas,
Anthony Jones, Bobby Rings, Dick Roggenkamp, David Hodge, Mike
Longfellow, Clinton Enyeart, Residents.
Present 7 - Stephen A. Renner, Brian Metzbower, Brian D. Larick, Nancy R.
McGregor, Karen J. Angelou, Michael Schnetzer, and Jamie Leeseberg
UPDATES FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS
1. Mifflin Township
Not present.
2. Jefferson Township
Chief Brad Shull said their activity is average; carbon monoxide is a
concern for them in the upcoming months; have appliances checked
every year; this season will see people start to heat their home in
chimneys; chimneys are the top contributors to house fires; have
inspected each year; try to burn seasoned wood; burning leaves is
prohibited by the EPA; also have issues with burning brush; visit EPA
website to become familiar with what you can and cannot do; Angelou
asked if gas logs in a chimney are safer; Shull said yes but still can
produce carbon monoxide; Larick shared a personal story of a friend
in the hospital from carbon monoxide poisoning.
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ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT
1. ORD-0113-2016 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO A PURCHASE AND
DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT WITH RINGS BROTHERS, LLC FOR
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 181 GRANVILLE STREET TO BE USED
BY ROCKWOOD CLEANERS
Jones said Bobby Rings is here tonight; is the owner; is interested in
acquiring the property at 181 Granville Street; his business is looking
to expand; he is located at 171 Granville; purchase price is $30,000;
agreeing to build out the site in line with guidelines of the Old
Gahanna vision plan; has been working with the Development
Department for some time; the Community Improvement Corporation
(CIC) recommended this sale; Rings said here to answer any
questions or concerns; would like to expand; Angelou asked the
amount of the land; Jones said his Council report was inaccurate;
.1397 is the correct amount; is part of the exhibit as the survey;
Leeseberg said loves the project; concern about dry cleaning; the
process and the chemicals used; his business, the first or second red
flags are underground storage tanks, dry cleaners, and asbestos;
agrees that every gas station is also in that spot; hopes his business
does well; felt the need to express his concerns; Rings said they have
nothing underground; offered to share the process with Mr.
Leeseberg; Larick asked what his development plan is; layout design
and style; hopes that to be an entertainment area; the retail
component fits; what does this facility look like and appear; Rings said
they are partnering with a construction company to put out a plan; will
make it look as good as possible; would like to give people tours of the
facility; show people the process; the extension would match what
there is now; Larick said the trucks parked out front is not conducive to
the entertainment area; Rings said the lot they want to purchase is
mainly for parking; Larick said we have a purchase agreement on
deck; would be okay with an interim step; would like more detail of
what the final property is; as opposed to entering into an agreement
for a sale; Jones said we do not have the renderings at this time; tried
to address that in Section 4; this was our best effort to ensure there
are time bound expectations; Leeseberg said 4.1.1 addresses the
parking concerns; asked about the enforcement for this contract;
Jones said this is a purchase and development document; the
abatement would be sacrificed if these terms are not met; Angelou
asked if his business is considered green; Rings said yes; Angelou
asked if he is part of the green business; Rings said they are part of
many; they will not add any additional dry cleaning machines; their
capacity is pressing and processing the garments; we use water for
80% of the garments we process; Angelou asked how often people
come in to check the machines; Rings said they have quarterly reports
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but the inspections vary and are up to the EPA; no required visit;
Angelou asked the number of employees; Rings said 33; all staff are
trained; turn-over rate is minimal; have high quality equipment;
Metzbower asked if there are restrictions to selling the property or
transition of ownership; Rings said he is young and has no plans to
sell the business.
Mayor Kneeland said they support this; the business will continue with
the same amount of manufacturing that goes on today; will not change
with the addition; risk does not change.
RECOMMENDATION: Introduction, back to Committee of the Whole.
PENDING LEGISLATION: Director of Development
2. ORD-0091-2016 TO REZONE 2.55+/- ACRES OF PROPERTY AS LIMITED OVERLAY
SUBURBAN OFFICE (L-SO); SAID PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5495,
5511, AND 5505 MORSE ROAD; PARCEL ID NO. 025-011235,
025-011236, 025-011239; CURRENT ZONING NEIGHBORHOOD
COMMERCIAL (NC); SPECTRUM ACQUISITION GAHANNA; LLC,
DAVID HODGE, APPLICANT.
Jones said there was a request at the last Council meeting to bring
this back; David Hodge, attorney, is here, with other members from
Spectrum; (passed out attached document); Hodge thanked Council
for their willingness to continue to consider this rezoning request;
important to keep in mind that this zoning package did come in pieces;
is for the greater Spectrum whole; they are creating new jobs; said
Spectrum believes these cottages maximize the overall success of the
development; said there is a TIF on the property; this will result in
$40,000 into the TIF over a 30 year term; the frontage is on Morse
Road; the developability has some challenges; the buildable footprint,
there are some limitations; this went to Planning Commission with no
neighbor concerns; was a unanimous recommendation for approval
from Planning Commission; the plans of the City all support this type
of development; this is truly to be used with the Three Creeks site; one
issue was the limitation text; we thought it was important to say they
could only be used in conjunction with Three Creeks; it went too far;
willing to do what the City wants in the limitation text; believe this
proposed development fits; hopes those not in support can take fresh
look and come to another conclusion; all here to answer any
questions; Jones said the property is in a TIF district; will be the
primary revenue generated; would be a significant property tax
generator; payroll is lower but this is a smaller footprint for
development; Larick asked about the $40K number; Hodge said was
provided to him by Spectrum; Larick asked if we pay the township or
schools; Jones said we would not owe anything to them; Schnetzer
distributed a handout (see attached); looked at the numbers; Gahanna
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has slipped in the numbers; reviewed the document with Council and
explained the numbers; what is being proposed is more housing;
appreciates the information Hodge provided; anything that goes in
there will generate a similar TIF amount; income tax revenue is big;
believes another office space with higher payrolls would be best
suited; most of our general fund is from income tax revenue; cannot,
as a community, afford to not maximize the developable land in the
City suitable for suburban office; does not believe the project is a good
fit; believes there is something else that goes there; Leeseberg asked
Spectrum how 8 housing units impact the bottom line; Mike Longfellow
thanked Council for the reconsideration; one thing that has contributed
to Spectrum's success is location and where they go; Gahanna was
the very first market they looked into in Columbus; not all senior living
facilities are created equal and they do not market the same way;
have seen an increase in those looking for a cottage environment;
believes Three Creeks will be very successful; is a beautiful facility;
investing 40 million dollars in Gahanna; they are owners, operators,
and developers; there is a small footprint of buildable land; this
benefits Three Creeks Senior Living; Larick asked where they have
facilities in Columbus; Longfellow said in Hilliard now, also under
construction in Pickerington, and moving toward construction in
Westerville; saw a big market in central Ohio; Leeseberg asked the
number of beds in the main building; Longfellow said about 160;
Leeseberg asked what impact 16 people in 8 cottages will have;
Longfellow said the main building will be successful; seniors often
have a hesitation in moving into a multi-tenant building; the cottage is
transitional; Leeseberg said the sanitary sewer is proposed for this
regional project; not good for the City; understands the need for the
project; does not believe it is good use for the property; Schnetzer said
we care about the demographics of the City; Angelou pointed out that
insight2050 said our entire demographics will change; there will be a
need for this type of facility; asked if the cottages will be rented out;
asked about those being built in Columbus, will they have the same
look; Longfellow said they do not have cottages planned for those;
that is trending right now; have several under construction right now
that include cottages; said meals, housekeeping, laundry, etc. are
included with the cottages; McGregor asked if the payroll changes if
this project is not approved; Longfellow said it is minor; McGregor said
sees a lot of turnover in senior living facilities in the ownership;
Longfellow said they have sold one property with unique
circumstances; they are privately held; owner-operators; we are
growing very deliberately; very selective in our search for a location;
Angelou asked if they will have staff in the cottages on a regular basis
that will bring income tax; Longfellow said they will go into the
cottages; Angelou asked if it will bring in more staff; Longfellow said
maybe 4-5 additional staff members due to these cottages; Schnetzer
said his view is that Gahanna should be self-determined community;
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feels single family is the highest and best use; clearly there is a need
for senior living right now; Metzbower asked what efforts have gone
into using this property as a medical facility and other developments;
how long did they work on a plan for that parcel of land; Dick
Roggenkamp said they have had this property on the market for the
last 5-6 years; the Spectrum deal was developed in 2014; they are
balancing the ground at 62 and Morse Road for office and retail uses;
the market however has been telling us something different than
office; closest they have come to office development was with a
dialysis facility that ended up in a different location in Gahanna; have
had some interest of medical users around that property; said the
market shows that medical facilities want to be closer to other medical
facilities; are marketing the balance of the property; Metzbower asked
if this facility will be a stronger anchor than offices; Roggenkamp said
potentially; said the small acreage is deceiving; butts up to a
right-of-way; said some of that will be dedicated to the City in the
project; buildable site is smaller with the setback.
RECOMMENDATION: Regular Agenda.
ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES
1. ORD-0109-2016 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO THE
STEELWORKERS HEALTH AND WELFARE PLAN PARTICIPATION
AGREEMENT EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1, 2017, TO PROVIDE
MEDICAL, PRESCRIPTION, DENTAL, AND VISION COVERAGE
FOR EMPLOYEES UNDER THE STEELWORKERS BARGAINING
UNIT AGREEMENT; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.
Cochran said they do an analysis each year to view cost; cost this
year shows it is more expensive to be on their plan; they can do that
and pay for their additional cost; they have opted for that; needs
emergency to have to them by the end of November; McGregor asked
how they decide to stay; Cochran said they vote with their
membership; the vote is binding on their part; Teal said the current
union contract lays out this procedure; we are bound by the contract.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda with Emergency.
ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SERVICE
1. ORD-0114-2016 TO AMEND CHAPTER 919, WATER AND SEWER INTERNAL
REVIEW BOARD, OF THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES OF THE CITY
OF GAHANNA.
Franey said they did their annual review of code addressing rates and
so on; made modifications in three chapters; change in 919 includes
an option for the applicant to attend the hearing over the phone;
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applicants' failure to give appropriate notice would result in a waiver of
their claim; Leeseberg asked if they are only allowed one hearing per
issue; Franey said they can only have a penalty waived one time; can
come multiple times for different issues.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
2. ORD-0115-2016 TO AMEND CHAPTER 921, SANITARY SEWER CONNECTIONS
AND RENTAL RATES, OF THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES OF THE
CITY OF GAHANNA.
Franey said this change is to modify the rates to go to the 2017 rates;
Angelou asked how they get to those figures; Franey said they look at
the City of Columbus; when those are proposed we take that
percentage; we then incorporate that number into our budget
numbers; then we determine how much we actually need to increase
our rates; Schnetzer asked if we are just passing the cost imposed by
the City of Columbus; Franey said they take into consideration the
carry-over and the expenses along with the City of Columbus.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
3. ORD-0116-2016 TO AMEND CHAPTER 929, WATER CONNECTIONS AND RATES,
OF THE CODIFIED ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF GAHANNA.
Franey said this change is the rate; the 2016 rate has been consistent
for the last 4 years; reducing water capital rate.
Angelou thanked Service for the roundabout training; Priestas said the
paving on 62 should be wrapping up.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
ITEM FROM CITY ATTORNEY
1. ORD-0117-2016 TO AUTHORIZE THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE TO TRANSFER
FUNDS COLLECTED FROM THE COURT BUILDING FUND TO THE
COURT COMPUTER FUND; AND TO SUPPLEMENTALLY
APPROPRIATE $3,459 TO THE COURT BUILDING FUND.
Ewald said this is for a transfer of $3,459; a small portion went into the
incorrect fund; asking for it back; needs to update code; will bring
those in the next 3-4 weeks.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
ITEM FROM THE CLERK OF COUNCIL
1. MR-0052-2016 MOTION RESOLUTION THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS NO OBJECTION
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TO THE NEW D5 LIQUOR PERMIT FOR JMJ FM LLC DBA F M &
PATIOS, 154 N HAMILTON ROAD, GAHANNA, OHIO 43230.
Banning said this is for a new liquor permit; new D5 permit; no
objections from the Police Department.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
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Banning said they were contacted by COTA; Renner said COTA was
expecting all municipalities to pass resolutions in support of issue 60;
have flyers that were emailed; someone wants to come speak at
Council on November 7; they want us to consider a Resolution of
Support; not a tax increase, it is a renewal; can make all documents
available for the public; McGregor said will be more money to them but
it is a renewal; is a 10 year sales tax; COTA is expanding and doing its
strategic plan.
RECOMMENDATION: Make information available to the public.
UPDATES FROM THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR
1. 2017 Budget
Teal said passing out the 2017 proposed budget request; will post this
on the website in the next day or so; not providing a detailed
presentation; requested to be on the formal agenda on November 7;
will give Council time to look at the book; have additional weeks to
review this year than last year; this is the first budget using the
GoForward Gahanna Strategic Plan associated.
ORD-0118-2016 TO MAKE APPROPRIATIONS FOR CURRENT EXPENSES AND
OTHER EXPENDITURES OF THE CITY OF GAHANNA, OHIO
DURING THE FISCAL YEAR 2017.
Public Hearing: November 7, 2016.
2. National Citizen Survey
Teal said have worked through draft reports for the survey; want to be
able to provide a detail report at the next committee on the 14th of
November; will also provide the quarterly update for the Strategic
Plan; will also provide an update on the branding strategy.
ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION:
Mayor Kneeland said he is hosting a meeting tomorrow with the
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Gahanna Service Organizations at 7:00 p.m. in the Committee Room;
purpose of the meeting is to see what we can do to help establish
memberships; also next week on the 2nd at 6:30 p.m. in the
Community Room is an Arts Council that is recently established;
neither effort is for the City's long-term involvement.
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ADJOURNMENT
8:41 p.m.
Kayla Holbrook, reporting.
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Agenda
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Committee of the Whole
Brian D. Larick, Chair
Stephen A. Renner, Brian Metzbower
Nancy R. McGregor, Karen J. Angelou
Michael Schnetzer, Jamie Leeseberg
Kimberly Banning, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, October 24, 2016 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
UPDATES FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS
1. Mifflin Township
2. Jefferson Township
ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT
1. ORD-0113-2016 Rockwood Cleaners Purchase and Development Contract
PENDING LEGISLATION: Director of Development
2. ORD-0091-2016 TO REZONE 2.55+/- ACRES OF PROPERTY AS LIMITED OVERLAY
SUBURBAN OFFICE (L-SO); SAID PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5495,
5511, AND 5505 MORSE ROAD; PARCEL ID NO. 025-011235,
025-011236, 025-011239; CURRENT ZONING NEIGHBORHOOD
COMMERCIAL (NC); SPECTRUM ACQUISITION GAHANNA; LLC,
DAVID HODGE, APPLICANT.
ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES
1. ORD-0109-2016 Steelworkers Health and Welfare Plan Participation Agreement
ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SERVICE
1. ORD-0114-2016 To amend Code Section 919 - Water & Sewer Internal Review Board
2. ORD-0115-2016 To amend Code Section 921 - Sanitary Sewer Connection and Rental
Rates
3. ORD-0116-2016 To amend Code Section 929 - Water Connections & Rates
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ITEM FROM CITY ATTORNEY
1. ORD-0117-2016 To transfer money collected from the Court Building Fund to the Court
Computer Fund.
ITEM FROM THE CLERK OF COUNCIL
1. MR-0052-2016 F M & Patios liquor permit
UPDATES FROM THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR
1. 2017 Budget
Formal presentation requested: November 7th City Council meeting
2. National Citizen Survey
2016-0333 City Administrator Report
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