Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · September 25, 2017
Minutes
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Committee of the Whole
Jamie Leeseberg, Chair
Karen J. Angelou
Brian D. Larick
Nancy R. McGregor
Brian Metzbower
Stephen A. Renner
Michael Schnetzer
Kimberly Banning, Clerk of Council
Monday, September 25, 2017 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
CALL TO ORDER
Larick called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
*Leeseberg arrived at 7:12 p.m.
FIRE DEPARTMENT UPDATE
- Mifflin Township Fire Chief Kauser - Director of Public Safety Thomas will give
report.
Mark Thomas, Director of Public Safety gave update on behalf of Mifflin
Fire Chief Kauser. Thomas said there were 903 EMS runs, 183 fire runs;
14 overdoses; responded to 14 natural gas emergencies; 96 vehicle
accidents; moving forward on administrative operations; will relay
information on the need for numbers on your houses; Mifflin Fire will help
residents if they are unable to do so themselves.
(see attached report under Committee Reports)
UPDATE FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SAFETY
Thomas said continue to have a problem with theft from motor vehicles;
had 3 responses to overdose; 519 citations issued in August; 65 total
accidents; no fatalities; 132 cases worked by the detective bureau; had a
training provided by Gordon Graham last month; morning class included
personnel from the City and Mifflin Fire; Metzbower asked about the
overdoses and medication administered; Larick asked how many mutual
aid calls from Franklin County; Thomas said will get that information to
Council.
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(see attached report under Committee Reports)
PENDING LEGISLATION
Thomas gave report for Chief Kauser; 14 overdoses; moving forward on
dispatching center; Trustees active role in fire prevention month;
interactive with community; numbers on home for emergency response;
see report.
PD report - Received 3,007 calls for August; theft with vehicles;
responded to domestic related calls; 3 overdoses; 902 traffic stops; over
500 citations issued; 75 calls for property damage only; 32nd month of
no fatalities; training opportunity; Gordan Grahm was speaker; very well
attended; see report.
Larick gave update on power outage; Franey said generators are on;
truck turned over east of Taylor Station; might be back on 8:30 or 9.
Larick asked about calls for Mutual Aid; wanted to know how many calls
are made total; Larick would like to know what is the percentage that we
are called; Thomas said he'd see if he could find it.
RES-0010-2017 TO ADOPT A STATEMENT INDICATING THE SERVICES THE CITY OF
GAHANNA, OHIO, WILL PROVIDE AND ARE AVAILABLE TO THE
1.858+/- ACRE PROPERTY IN JEFFERSON TOWNSHIP, LOCATED
AT 4200 EAST JOHNSTOWN ROAD IN FRANKLIN COUNTY,
PROPOSED TO BE ANNEXED TO THE CITYOF GAHANNA UPON
ANNEXATION; REQUESTED BY JACK REYNOLDS, SMITH & HALE,
AGENTFOR THE PETITIONER; DIRKEN T. VOELKER, PROPERTY
OWNER.
Anthony Jones said Glen Dugger is here to answer questions; said
parcel this size can be annexed into the City; default zoning is Estate
Residential 2 (ER-2); will be re-zoned to a more applicable zoning;
Ewald said under ORC have to file a response to services we will
provide within 20 days; Schnetzer asked, fundamentally - what is the
process for when an annexation occurs; Ewald said the applicant can
answer some questions; Dugger said it is a statutorily regulated process;
rules we are working with are about 17 years old; some members of City
Council may remember that the annexation battle prior to 2000 was
unsettled area with a lot of litigation; start the with filing a petition; petition
county commissioners to approve annexation; defined things are in it;
those services are asked to pass resolution within 20 days; hearing
before Board of County Commissioners; they look at and are very
objective of criteria; then it comes to City Clerk; after that 60 day period
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expires then it comes back to City Council for acceptance; the process is
much clearer today; comply with the rules and go with process; there is
no provision in state law for pre-annexation agreements; to his
knowledge he has never remembered an annexation being turned down;
Dugger said he broke down steps for the Cliff’s Note version; each
process has a lengthy time-line; Schnetzer said instead of walkthrough of
the timeline, if a member of City Council did not object to the annexation,
but was not very fond of the proposed development, where in the process
would that objection take place; Dugger said by law you need to pass
this Resolution; he said if he wanted to raise an objection it can be later;
Schnetzer asked if we have sole authority not to accept it; Dugger said in
his opinion they could; commissioners are obligated to approve it if they
meet all the criteria; Schnetzer said the only way to ensure a parcel is
developed the way the City desires, is to have an agreement; Dugger
said best practice is to work with developers prior to service resolution;
Ewald asked what it will be zoned as; Dugger said it will defined later;
McGregor asked if we can require that it come in as estate residential;
Dugger said developer can seek an agreement after the annexation; City
Council can then request it be put in the zoning category; used to come is
a ER-2; supreme court rules you can’t automatically have it come in;
Angelou said regarding annexation at the county it is very objective and
now very subjective; Angelou understands we have to say yes; but there
is a period of time they can object to annexation not what is put on the
property; Angelou said Jefferson Township can use it for what it is zoned
for; but you'd have to bring in sewer and water from Jefferson which is a
long way away; Johnstown Road had commercial transitional properties;
Schnetzer asked Jones proposed MI-Homes annexation; when in the
process does the agreement start; he responded it was the first thing;
Schnetzer said this is a fundamental difference; petition filed and get a
very short very period of time; he's not comfortable with this process; next
step goes to commissioners and they can override the will of Council;
Schnetzer said he'd feel considerably more comfortable if the City
doesn't have to offer services; he doesn't want to give away those
services; better and higher use; putting a daycare in the middle of a 20
acre piece of land; this isn't the best use; would like to have more
conversations with the developer; Dugger said that the statute does say
that Council shall offer the services; Jones said they can reject of the
submission of the annexation at a later point; Ewald said in 709.03 - it
doesn't say shall provide resolution; it says will not shall; not making a
promise to give services; Dugger said 20 days to say what services are
available, if any; Dugger said it could be that a property cannot be
annexed if services can't be offered due to distance; Dugger said there
are many City services that have very little to do with zoning; like police
services for example; need to outline where a particular sewer is; he said
that you can provide zoning but not utilities.
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RECESSED INTO SPECIAL MEETING AT 7:34 p.m.
RETURNED TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING AT 7:53 p.m.
ACTION TAKEN AT SPECIAL MEETING ON 9-25-2017.
ORD-0064-2017 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE AN AMENDMENT TO
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF
GAHANNA AND VALUE RECOVERY GROUP (VRG) II IN ORDER TO
EXTEND THE REPAYMENT TERM FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS.
Schnetzer said he wanted to know why there is a 5 year payback period;
has concerns over blanket extension; would like to shorten the term; have
it come back; as a way of accelerating the efforts; VRG believes the
property could be taken away; could help them find a user and be more
incentive; McGregor has concerns with length of time; Renner agrees
with Schnetzer and McGregor agrees that 5 years is too long; David Poe
said private entity paid 25% of a public road; school and City were
improved by this too; paid down 60% of the balance; working on getting
things in place; extension of time is for precaution; like that time to take
care of the debit; Schnetzer said its human nature that if something
needs to be done you have deadline you get working on it; Schnetzer
sees this as council won't see this for another 5 years; shorten the term
and get updates; it may not get pulled, but at least they have better
control of the progress; McGregor asked if 3 years impacts things
financially; Poe said in order to yank, Council would need to pay off first
mortgage; he said they meet with administration regularly; Jones said
they are working on projects and this could go away; focusing on this land
being sold; Poe said they'd agree to a 3 year term.
RECOMMENDATION: Amend by Substitution to 3 years; Consent Agenda.
GAS AGGREGATION PRESENTATION BY VOLUNTEER ENERGY
2017-0204 Larry Taylor presentation for gas aggregation
Larry presented information to Council - see presentation.
Leeseberg asked what grant money could be used for; Teal doesn't think
it comes with strings; Larick apologized for stepping out of the room;
said speaker came to coffee with council; he just wanted him to get in
front of council to see what services are offered and whether anyone is
interested in pursuing; Franey said they have been through different
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programs not guaranteed return programs; would be involved in
aggregation; 2004 is when this service came into; only option that is a
guaranteed 5% savings; this company is 8% so it's better return; second
year the amount changes; Franey said people didn't like that and this is a
different story; she said as a director; should our resources be spent on
this program; this change would take time on how they would see the
savings; second year there is a calculation; another thing in another
program, but it was that idea with aggregation you join accounts together
you get a better rate; people were not happy and felt they could get a
better deal; perhaps could happen in the second year; customer will call
and say they are paying twice as much now as I was before; she tends to
be leery of this program; there is so much competition out there; Larry
said influx of phone calls can be handled through them; one of the things
huge influx of calls typically happens within the first 45 days; he'd be
willing to come to the City and take calls for the first week or so; he would
be happy to sit with somebody and come up with answers; if someone
calls can direct them to Volunteer Energy; other speaker said you could
schedule town meetings outside of council meetings; they don't want
anyone going in that this is a good deal; they want to educate everyone;
have all been very successful; Franey said opt in program seems to be a
better idea; Angelou said but this an opt out; for $43K grant she'd be
leery of fielding those calls; everyone knows they aren't printing the
money; it's coming from customers; one of the ways to combat that is
their staff; they would help market and educate the community; Schnetzer
said this is to make Volunteer the main provider for gas; information
would be transferred to Volunteer need social security numbers; they
don't ask for social security numbers; they only ask for meter numbers;
only asking for what is legally regulated; not personably identifiable
information; Renner thanked Dottie for her info; he doesn't like the opt out
and would like opt in instead; you can go to the PUCO and find rates;
McGregor said she doesn't have gas; Metzbower said this program is a
lot like hedging; asked if $43K grant money is every year; guarantee 8%
for year; will do 3 cents depending on what the market does; February is
when they do the reverse auction; he said every year they've been able to
honor the discount; there needs to be at least 2 months’ notice; $43K
each city would receive 5 cents per MCF; how do they get around the
implication of kick back; he wanted to know how to handle any backlash;
Angelou said history of aggregation with electric and gas; had to do with
fixed price and created some serious issues; can send out sample
letters to address anything.
RECESSED COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE AT 8:41 p.m. TO SPECIAL
MEETING.
RETURNED TO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING AT 8:45 p.m.
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ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF SERVICE
ORD-0067-2017 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT WITH
FRANKLIN COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH FOR 2018 CITY OF GAHANNA
PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES.
Franey asked for contract approval; Schnetzer asked if this was not
owner occupied; how would that be addressed; Franey said maybe a
hoarder situation; recognizes what is going on; they will address anything
within City code; if it gets into safety will contact the health department;
they have services where they get involved; if you need hazmat suit that's
not us; Metzbower asked if this agreement would change with internal
care facility; Franey said no it's not for individuals.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
RES-0011-2017 A RESOLUTION STATING GAHANNA'S COMMITMENT TO MORPC'S
SUSTAINABLE2050 PROGRAM AND THAT GAHANNA WILL PURSUE
THE OBJECTIVES AND INITIATIVES OUTLINED IN THE PROGRAM.
Franey said this outlined to gear toward sustainable program; MORPC is
proposing to reorganize the green pact; rename is sustainable 2050;
have original green pact members focus on their sustainable agenda;
Angelou feels very strongly this is a good idea; in order to have
membership first show commitment as a community will need to
designate a local champion; Deputy Service Director will attend
meetings and share info. with MORPC work toward achieving their goals
and objectives; bronze silver gold and platinum; believes can safely
achieve gold level; MORPC is gathering resolution; October 5 will attend
meeting; October 14 is the conference and will unveil at that luncheon;
after that we look at what we can do; tonight is the first step on the
resolution; Schnetzer asked does our commitment to this program
obligate the City; worst case we would be embarrassed; before put
together council report; came up with no brainer list; comfortable in the
gold section; alt fuel, increased trail; LED lighting, reduce crashes;
Westside intersection will reduce crashes; a lot of things working on
anyway; Metzbower asked how crashes help; is under sustainable
neighborhoods; McGregor wondered if this is something that is valuable;
Franey said this is same meeting; we looked at what are we already
doing; Metzbower sounds like rebranding this pact; one of things will be
doing is energy bench marking tool; Leeseberg asked how we sustain
each year if we meet goals; Franey said they have been reducing electric
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over the years because they already started; Leeseberg said peer
groups together; he just didn't want to back us in a corner to meet our
numbers; thinks it's a good idea.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING & DEVELOPMENT
ORD-0068-2017 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE A PROPERTY SALE
AGREEMENT AND AN INDEFEASIBLE RIGHT TO USE AGREEMENT
WITH FRANKLIN PEAK LLC FOR DEVELOPMENT OF 4.4 ACRES OF
VACANT LAND LOCATED AT 785 SCIENCE BOULEVARD; PARCEL
ID 025-013668, 027-000114, AND 025-006469.
Jones said is asking Council to approve set of incentives; investment
over $6 million; payroll over $10 million in the City; multiple part incentive;
transfer to the CIC: sell to developer for $300K; similar to Columbia Gas;
money does have restrictions; 100% tax abatement for 12 years; raised
performance incentives built in; eligible for additional tax abatement; see
attached report; there are some environmental impacts that we would
provide assistance for; project is aligned with City's goals; within
targeted industry range; estimated return to the City is just under 1.5
million; there is a consultant here that is working on the project;
Metzbower asked about internet security; Jones said user has complete
control; Tom Warner with Advanced Civil Design; there will be a
spectacular view; nothing like it; excited to be on the team.
RECOMMENDATION: Regular Agenda.
ORD-0069-2017 TO AUTHORIZE THE HOUSING OFFICER TO EXECUTE A
COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA (CRA) NUMBER THREE TAX
ABATEMENT AGREEMENT WITH FRANKLIN PEAK LLC FOR A 100%
REAL ESTATE PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT FOR A PERIOD OF UP
TO 15 YEARS ON 4.4 ACRES OF VACANT LAND LOCATED AT 785
SCIENCE BOULEVARD; PARCEL ID 025-013668, 027-000114,
025-006469.
See discussion under ORD-0069-2017.
RECOMMENDATION: Regular Agenda.
REPORTS- no action required
2017-0201 Committee Reports 9/25/2017
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ADJOURNMENT
9:09 p.m.
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Agenda
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Committee of the Whole
Jamie Leeseberg, Chair
Karen J. Angelou
Brian D. Larick
Nancy R. McGregor
Brian Metzbower
Stephen A. Renner
Michael Schnetzer
Kimberly Banning, Clerk of Council
Monday, September 25, 2017 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
FIRE DEPARTMENT UPDATE
- Mifflin Township Fire Chief Kauser - Director of Public Safety Thomas will give
report.
PENDING LEGISLATION
RES-0010-2017 TO ADOPT A STATEMENT INDICATING THE SERVICES THE CITY OF
GAHANNA, OHIO, WILL PROVIDE TO THE 1.858+/- ACRE PROPERTY
IN JEFFERSON TOWNSHIP, LOCATED AT 4200 EAST JOHNSTOWN
ROAD IN FRANKLIN COUNTY, PROPOSED TO BE ANNEXED TO THE
CITY OF GAHANNA UPON ANNEXATION; REQUESTED BY JACK
REYNOLDS, SMITH & HALE, AGENT FOR THE PETITIONER; DIRKEN T.
VOELKER, PROPERTY OWNER.
Special Meeting at 7:30pm
ORD-0064-2017 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE AN AMENDMENT TO THE
DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF GAHANNA
AND VALUE RECOVERY GROUP (VRG) II IN ORDER TO EXTEND THE
REPAYMENT TERM FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS.
Introduced, Second Reading
GAS AGGREGATION PRESENTATION BY VOLUNTEER ENERGY
2017-0204 Larry Taylor presentation for gas aggregation
ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF SERVICE
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Committee of the Whole Meeting Agenda September 25, 2017
ORD-0067-2017 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT WITH
FRANKLIN COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH FOR 2018 CITY OF GAHANNA
PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES.
RES-0011-2017 A RESOLUTION STATING GAHANNA'S COMMITMENT TO MORPC'S
SUSTAINABLE2050 PROGRAM AND THAT GAHANNA WILL PURSUE
THE OBJECTIVES AND INITIATIVES OUTLINED IN THE PROGRAM.
ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING & DEVELOPMENT
ORD-0068-2017 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE A PROPERTY SALE
AGREEMENT AND AN INDEFEASIBLE RIGHT TO USE AGREEMENT
WITH FRANKLIN PEAK LLC FOR DEVELOPMENT OF 4.4 ACRES OF
VACANT LAND LOCATED AT 785 SCIENCE BLVD. (PARCELS
#025-013668, #027-000114, AND #025-006469).
ORD-0069-2017 TO AUTHORIZE THE HOUSING OFFICER TO EXECUTE A CRA TAX
ABATEMENT AGREEMENT WITH FRANKLIN PEAK LLC FOR A 100%
REAL ESTATE PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT FOR A PERIOD OF 12
YEARS ON 4.4 ACRES OF VACANT LAND LOCATED AT 785
SCIENCE BLVD. (PARCELS #025-013668, #027-000114, AND
#025-006469).
REPORTS- no action required
2017-0201 Committee Reports 9/25/2017
City of Gahanna Page 2 Printed on 9/25/2017
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