Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · September 8, 2020
Minutes
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Committee of the Whole
Nancy R. McGregor, Chair, Vice President
Jamie Leeseberg, President
Karen J. Angelou
Merisa Bowers
Brian D. Larick
Stephen A. Renner
Michael Schnetzer
April Beggerow, MPA, CMC, Clerk of Council
Tuesday, September 8, 2020 Virtual Meeting
*Immediately following the Regular Council meeting*
Call in details: 513-306-4583
Conference ID: 269 350 748#
A. CALL TO ORDER
Chairwoman Nancy McGregor called the Committee of the Whole meeting to
order at 7:30 p.m.
B. DISCUSSIONS
Discussion: Virtual Meetings
Mrs. McGregor asked about staying virtual vs. in person meetings.
Mr. Renner replied that a lot of other bodies are still virtual. If we could
logistically be 6 feet apart he would support but he doesn't know that it's
possible.
Ms. Bowers added that some are meeting in person and some are virtual
but her concern is getting the tech issues worked out. Streaming isn't
consistent. She said if we continue to stream consistently then virtual
would be fine but constituents need to be able to see and hear what is
going on in local government.
Mr. Leeseberg said that one other concern with opening Council
meetings are that attendance is much more popular. City Hall is still a
controlled environment.
Mayor Jadwin said that with Mayors Court, we only allow one person at a
time. We would have to increase the deep cleaning. She has heard
from other municipalities that they are staying virtual because it is difficult
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to limit how many people can come in. Assuming we can get technical
issues resolved and until COVID numbers in the area go down virtual
seems the better way to go.
Mrs. Angelou asked if all the employees have returned.
Mayor Jadwin replied that they came back in June, and some are
teleworking. Some have expressed concern with family issues and
some positions allow for telework easier than others, but 99% are in the
building.
Mrs. Angelou asked if we come back in, we would have to have
additional cleaning.
Mr. Crawford said the entire facility is about $1,000 but we've reduced to
just the core areas so his guess it would be $500.
Mrs. Angelou asked if it is covered with CARES money? And that
maybe if it's just a half an hour, that's a lot of money.
Mr. Crawford said it is.
Mrs. McGregor said that it seems like everyone wants to remain virtual
and we will revisit this the end of October.
1. ITEM FROM THE CLERK OF COUNCIL
2020-137 LIQUOR PERMIT REQUEST: 1335 Stoneridge; applicant Pier 11 Boiling
Seafood
Mrs. Beggerow shared the Liquor permit request. It was filed in
December of 2019 and not forwarded to the City in a timely manner.
Council took no action.
2. ITEM REFERRED FROM PLANNING COMMISSION
ORD-073-2020 ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF
GAHANNA, OHIO: Amending Chapter 1181 PERSONAL WIRELESS
SERVICE FACILITIES
Mr. Mularski presented the legislative file. He stated that he helped put
this together and it's for the 5G towers that have different requirements
and have State constraints. This gives us the ability to regulate as much
as possible the 5G towers.
Public hearing is scheduled for October 5th.
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Mrs. McGregor said that not that we can do anything about this, but we
might have one of these every block because the 5G waves are much
shorter, that might put a lot more towers in our right of ways.
Mr. Leeseberg asked why are we not co-locating these to limit the
number of poles. We have a ton of poles out there already.
Mr. Mularski replied that this will give us the ability to require that. We can
require it in some instances.
Mr. Leeseberg said that he thought that we weren't requiring co-locating.
Mr. Mularski replied that we don't require it, but it is encouraged, we can't
require it.
Mrs. Angelou asked if there is any monetary reimbursement to the City?
Mr. Crawford replied that he isn't aware of any reimbursement, there is
an application fee, and utilities pay an annual fee, but there is nothing
else we can get from this.
Mr. Leeseberg said that there is some revenue generation from them
being on our pole.
Mr. Crawford replied that this code will allow us to require them to
co-locate on a city owned pole, but that will be challenging due to the
requirements of upgrading that pole to be able to sustain the added load.
We want to avoid ugly poles in areas, but we'll use this code to hide
these things as best as we can. Using a city owned pole isn't really what
we want to do, it adds more liability when they are adding to a city owned
asset. We incur additional cost to maintain the larger city-owned asset.
Mr. Schnetzer asked about the option to have cell towers that look like a
street light and them going though the neighborhoods. In a situation
where there is already a street light, is it possible to steer them towards
replacing the pole that exists with a cell tower/light pole.
Mr. Crawford replied that it is the same issue as above, we could require
them to upgrade the city asset, but then we own an asset that isn't
standard. If a car knocks down a streetlight, we have to replace a pole
that is bigger and not standard- and how fast would we need to replace it
to satisfy the cell company, we don't keep poles in stock.
Mr. Leeseberg said that as far as the cost goes, poles get hit, it happens,
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he just doesn't want more poles than we have to, and we have a ton.
Mrs. Angelou asked if there is vandalism potential when they're lower?
Mr. Crawford replied that he was not aware of increased vandalism. The
actual antenna are actually 20 ft off the ground.
Ms. Bowers asked about other municipalities' attempts to be more
restrictive that were circumvented by the General Assembly. Is there
anything we can do to encourage changes at the state level?
Mr. Mularski replied just to contact the state legislators.
Recommendation: Introduction/First Reading and return to Committee. Public
Hearing scheduled for October 5, 2020.
3. ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE
Presentation: CARES Program and Use of Additional CARES funds.
Ms. Bury said that she actually needed to introduce a supplemental for
CARES Act funding. She asked Council to return to weekly meetings
because she is having difficulty getting information prepared every other
week to try to make things timely. She requests weekly meetings even if
virtual.
Mayor Jadwin asked Ms. Bury to explain the Budget process/timeline.
Ms. Bury outlined the budget time line and said she is having a hard time
adjusting the budget timeline to the every other week meeting schedule.
She added that the tax budget rates resolution has been received and
needs to be submitted by October 1. She asks that during the budget
season, that Council meet weekly.
Mrs. McGregor said that perhaps during budget season a meet every
week would be prudent.
Mrs. Angelou agreed.
Mr. Schnetzer said that if it will be just a couple of incidents, we could
have special meetings.
Ms. Bowers added, or Finance meetings.
Ms. Bury said it would be helpful and have the ability to have special
meetings.
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Mr. Schnetzer said that was the purpose of a special meeting, to adapt
and be flexible to a constraint.
Mrs. McGregor asked if there is a reason to call one meeting
(committee) over a special meeting.
Mr. Mularski said it could be either, it could be discussed at either one.
Mrs. McGregor asked when this needs to start.
Ms. Bury said she just got the tax budget with the rates so perhaps to call
a special meeting on the 28th to adopt that in time for the 1st.
Mr. Leeseberg said we can intro and pass as an emergency.
Ms. Bury said her understanding is she would have to introduce it first
which would be done at committee.
Mr. Leeseberg said we can introduce it and adopt it at the same
meeting. This is a yearly item that is addressed every year.
Mr. Mularski clarified that Committee and Council is not interchangable. It
depends on what you want to do.
Mrs. Angelou said she would like to go back to weekly. We could just
have regular meeting and the next week come in for finance and the 5th
Monday would not be anything. This is an important time of year and now
we have CARES Act money so it would be prudent to have Finance
Committee the next Monday and helpful for us. It is something we would
be doing if it weren't for COVID-19.
Mrs. McGregor said Joann needs a special meeting on the 28th, so
could we have a special meeting and finance meeting on the 28th? So
finance meeting on the 2nd and 4th Mondays in October.
Mr. Schnetzer asked what the ask is from Ms. Bury.
Ms. Bury replied that she needs to introduce legislation for the CARES
act money.
Mr. Schnetzer said that ok, budget season is basically now through the
end of the year. In years past, we haven't always had good discussion
early on, so there isn't a reason Finance couldn't be stacked onto regular
meeting nights, but if there is a time crunch a special meeting is
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appropriate to address that.
Mayor Jadwin added to keep in mind there will be additional CARES act
reporting at the end of the year. So there will be budget and the CARES
act on top of that.
Mrs. Angelou said that CARES act deadline may be extended to the
31st.
Ms. Bury said that is the deadline for the county and state to do their
reporting but we have to do ours first.
Mrs. Angelou asked has there been any report on the excess money, she
heard it was going to be per capita vs that group? She hasn't heard if
that has been passed by the Senate.
Ms. Bury said that as far as she knows they're going to use the local
government formula, she hasn't heard of any changes.
Mrs. McGregor said so we don't need to do anything special next week,
we can wait until the 21st to see what we need to do.
Ms. Bury asked if this is adequate as an introduction for legislation for the
CARES act.
Mrs. Beggerow said that there is no ordinance or supporting material.
Ms. Bury said she needs to bring the information forward for the
introduction.
Mrs. Beggerow said that we don't have mandatory referral so this can be
brought forward for introduction and adoption same evening with a
waiver of second reading.
4. ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SERVICE & ENGINEERING
ORD-075-2020 AN ORDINANCE ACCEPTING RIGHT OF WAY DEED FOR 0.33 +/-
ACRES ALONG THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 350 WEST
JOHNSTOWN ROAD.
Mr. Crawford presented his legislation. The report and supporting
material is attached.
No questions were asked.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
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ORD-076-2020 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO
CONTRACT WITH INSITUFORM TECHNOLOGIES, LLC FOR THE
2020 SEWER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT; WAIVING SECOND
READING.
Mr. Crawford presented his legislation. The report and supporting
material is attached.
Mr. Renner asked the timeline for the lining parts.
Mr. Moorehead replied that he doesn't have a final schedule from them.
The expectation is that the duration is short and will be completed in
2020.
Mrs. Angelou asked if we need a waiver of second reading.
Mr. Crawford said we don't but it would certainly help.
Added waiver of second reading to legislation.
Mr. Moorehead added that the date for substantial completion is
December 16th, 2020.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
ORD-077-2020 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND DIRECTOR OF
PUBLIC SERVICE AND ENGINEERING TO ENTER INTO A
CONTRACT WITH BELFOR FOR REPAIRS OF THE OKLAHOMA
AVENUE SERVICE COMPLEX STORAGE BINS; WAIVING SECOND
READING; DECLARING IT AN EMERGENCY.
Mr. Crawford presented his legislation. The report and supporting
material is attached.
Mrs. McGregor asked if the supplemental is included in this ordinance.
Mr. Crawford replied that it is.
Ms. Bowers asked about waiving competitive bidding. Do we have
history with Belfor in Gahanna?
Mr. Crawford said that we do not, but city officials have been reaching out
to contractors and were able to obtain 3 quotes and the third company
dropped out so this was the lowest of the 2 quotes.
Ms. Bowers asked when the storm hit.
Mr. Crawford replied it was the May rain event.
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Ms. Bowers asked the timeline for completion.
Mr. Crawford said it was as soon as possible, no estimate on the time
provided.
RECOMMENDATION: Regular Agenda.
Update on Creekside Engineering Project
Mayor Jadwin said that this issue relates to a contract discussed on April
6. Because Creekside, which was built about 15 years ago, is in a flood
plain area, a special flood plain use permit was required at the time of
construction to comply with city and FEMA requirements. Staff has been
searching for this certificate because FEMA had requested it and it has
not been located. The plan was to expand the search and adopt a
contingency if it were not able to be located.
Mr. Crawford stated that the contingency plan was to secure an
engineering plan, which Council approved April 6, with DLZ Engineering.
After months of surveying, the report was received on August 28th. We
are still evaluating that draft report. Tim Hampshire is here from DLZ to
present a summary overview of those draft findings.
Mr. Hampshire heads up the water resources group at DLZ. He said
DLZ was contracted in April to look at a couple of issues with the facility-
whether a no rise certificate could be issued for the structure since it was
built in a flood plain- that building the building doesn't create any
detrimental increases in flood plain elevations which could flood adjacent
structures. Also, whether a flood proofing certificate could be issued for
the underground facility which says the facility would remain waterproof
during a high-water event in the adjacent creek - the inside would remain
reasonably dry for insurance purposes. There are some good findings
but it's a mixed bag. A no rise certificate can be issued for the project.
The analysis indicated that there is an insignificant rise in Big Walnut
Creek. The flood proofing certificate required them to consider the effect
of a 100-year event on the structure. It is a number established by
FEMA. What was found that the walls that circumvent the parking
garage. In general, those would be OK structurally during a high-water
event. There is a bit of stress, but he was comfortable saying the walls
would be fine. The concrete floor of the parking garage is a thin lightly
reinforced slab on grade. It’s just a 6-inch concrete slab with very little
reinforcing steel that lays on a bed of gravel. One concern is during a
high water ground water event around the parking garage, whereas the
walls would be able to withstand the loading, there is a possibility that a
great deal of water could percolate around that garage floor or heave/lift
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the floor slab up. There could be enough water pressure under the floor
slab to lift it up and enter the garage. Water could enter the garage
where the concrete floor meets the walls. The other concern is that there
are a few rooms, one in particular, the pool equipment/pump room, was
constructed after the main walls were built. They cut openings through
the main walls, installed doors, and then built the walls of the pump room
out of masonry block and mortar such that you would see in a residential
basement. Those type of walls, the exterior mortar and block walls are
under stress from soil loading and water loading. The big picture is that
the main walls appear to be ok, but the concerns are with the floor slab
and the walls that were installed after the fact. During the construction of
the facility, there was a slurry wall constructed around the entire complex.
This is a concrete wall that is underground, you can't see it and it goes all
around the Creekside facility to keep the water out. Caveats with that,
there are a lot of documentation or reports that part of that may have
been damaged or collapsed or they may have hit some obstructions
underground that may have prevented it from being successfully
constructed all the way around the perimeter. In addition, a lot of surface
features are required in order to make that system watertight. The
100-year flood event is basically 1ft below the first floor of those
buildings. There is a lot of surface features that are also needed to keep
this system watertight. That would include concrete walking surface,
drives, there was also to be a 2 ft clay cap installed in certain areas and
there are indications that that has been penetrated through for the usual
installation of utilities and landscaping improvements. We have been
monitoring the ground water level and it has consistently been a couple of
feet below the floor slab. But we haven't had a 100-year flood. There are
some things that need addressed moving forward with the facility.
Mr. Renner asked if DLZ is still monitoring the water around it and will
they be upcoming?
Mr. Hampshire said there is automated ground water monitoring sensors
and is set up for continuing monitoring. It began in the March/April time
frame and did capture a high-water event and there was water in the
parking garage, but the ground water was still shown below that level. It
has remained consistent.
Mrs. McGregor asked if that high-water event was when Hoover was
released?
Mr. Hampshire said he didn't think this event was in relation to water
released by Hoover.
Mr. Moorehead said it was a combination of runoff and some from
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Hoover. Their gates were up, but water flowed over the top dropping
water into the creek. So, there was some contribution.
Mrs. McGregor said she would be curious as to what the results would be
when we have that big release from Hoover.
Mr. Leeseberg asked if the report was done.
Mr. Hampshire said it is complete but is stamped draft but is essentially
done except for any additional monitoring.
Mayor Jadwin asked about some corrections that needed done.
Mr. Moorehead said there are, but the substance is complete.
Mayor Jadwin asked Mr. Hampshire to share next steps.
Mr. Hampshire said the first step is to continue monitoring. There are
steps that can be done soon to help waterproof the facility. Examples
are missing items, anchor bolts, stop logs, to keep the water out during a
high-water event. It appears as though backflow preventors are missing-
they are a low-cost item to install and that could be done quickly and
inexpensively.
Mayor Jadwin asked what would be the next step for the garage itself.
Mr. Hampshire replied it would be to address the CMU- mortar and block
walls. Those walls are overstressed, there are signs of water infiltration
through those walls. Any pipes that went through the concrete walls,
some of those show signs of not being sealed against water infiltration.
The garage floor is the big issue on the list. We have not seen a 100
year event at the site and if it were to get to that and finds an opening
though the surface or if it were to get to an elevation where there are
defects in the slurry wall, it could begin to fill up quickly. Remediation is
recommended- install a structural floor slab.
Mayor Jadwin asked if the report contain the recommendations.
Mr. Hampshire said it does. With the structure being built and trying to
remediate deficiencies, a more comprehensive model of the facility
would be needed in order to model how these loads are being shared
from the floor slab up into the walls. One way to address it is to remediate
the floor slab to carry those water loads over into the parking garage
walls. Right now the floor slab is doing its own thing. A redesign would
be needed to make the floor slab and the walls to act as a unit.
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Mayor Jadwin asked if there is a required time frame?
Mr. Hampshire said he didn't know if there was, but there hasn't been a
large water event. We are getting into the fall, the spring is when the
high-water events occur, the bigger concern is that the floor has never
been proof tested to a high-water event. You'll never know that until there
is a high-water event.
Mrs. McGregor said that essentially, a flood proofing certificate cannot
be issues.
Mr. Hampshire said correct. I no rise permit can, but flood proofing
cannot.
Mr. Mularski asked if fixing the floor would allow for a flood proofing
certificate.
Mr. Hampshire said fixing the floor, along with the other items: taking
care of the masonry walls, addressing the stop logs, the closure gates
that have to be put up during a high water event, sealing newer pipe
penetrations through the walls, flat gates on the outlet pipes.. a flood
proofing certificate could eventually be issued but the floor is just one part
of the puzzle.
Mr. Schnetzer asked if the water monitoring devices were in place since
April.
Mr. Hampshire said the latter part of April. He can get an exact date.
Mr. Schnetzer said it was more of curiosity, he was looking at USGS
gage data at the Central College gage that was just below the Hoover
spillway and it looks like the largest discharge event this year appears to
be late May. But maybe we can take some comfort that your monitoring
device picked up the largest event this year and maybe back into 2018
for whatever that is worth.
Mr. Hampshire said he knows we captured one of the larger water events
shortly after implementation.
Mr. Moorehead said that event in May, they were able to get the holes
drilled and in the ground 2-3 days before that event occurred. It is also
important to state that that Central College gage is only reflects
discharge from Hoover reservoir. It is located such that the river is 100
feet down street from the dam, so the rest of the runoff doesn't get
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captured in that gage. The height of the flooding that we did record with
that gage was consistent with that of a 5-year flood, so we did get tested
to a significant event but not that of a 100 year flood which the structure
needs to be secured to.
Mr. Leeseberg said we have had historically had flood waters up to the
bottom of the 62 bridge, that's a far more significant event, we didn't have
the monitors at the time, we haven't had a failure in 15 years.
Mrs. McGregor said that the big boulder has a plaque on it that marks the
high flood mark from 1959.
No further questions, meeting adjourned at 9:03 p.m.
April Beggerow, MPA, CMC
Clerk of Council
APPROVED by the Committee of the Whole, this
day of 2020.
Jamie Leeseberg
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200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Committee of the Whole
Nancy R. McGregor, Chair, Vice President
Jamie Leeseberg, President
Karen J. Angelou
Merisa Bowers
Brian D. Larick
Stephen A. Renner
Michael Schnetzer
April Beggerow, MPA, CMC, Clerk of Council
Tuesday, September 8, 2020 Virtual Meeting
*Immediately following the Regular Council meeting*
Call in details: 513-306-4583
Conference ID: 269 350 748#
A. CALL TO ORDER
B. DISCUSSIONS
1. ITEM FROM THE CLERK OF COUNCIL
2020-137 LIQUOR PERMIT REQUEST: 1335 Stoneridge; applicant Pier 11 Boiling
Seafood
2. ITEM REFERRED FROM PLANNING COMMISSION
ORD-073-2020 ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF GAHANNA,
OHIO: Amending Chapter 1181 PERSONAL WIRELESS SERVICE
FACILITIES
3. ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE
Presentation: CARES Program and Use of Additional CARES funds.
4. ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SERVICE & ENGINEERING
ORD-075-2020 AN ORDINANCE ACCEPTING RIGHT OF WAY DEED FOR 0.33 +/-
ACRES ALONG THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 350 WEST
JOHNSTOWN ROAD.
City of Gahanna Page 1 Printed on 9/4/2020
Committee of the Whole Meeting Agenda September 8, 2020
ORD-076-2020 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO
CONTRACT WITH INSITUFORM TECHNOLOGIES, LLC FOR THE 2020
SEWER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
ORD-077-2020 AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND DIRECTOR OF
PUBLIC SERVICE AND ENGINEERING TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT
WITH BELFOR FOR REPAIRS OF THE OKLAHOMA AVENUE SERVICE
COMPLEX STORAGE BINS; WAIVING SECOND READING;
DECLARING IT AN EMERGENCY.
Update on Creekside Engineering Project
City of Gahanna Page 2 Printed on 9/4/2020
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