Council Study Session
Regular MeetingGilbert, AZ · March 5, 2024
Minutes
MINUTES OF THE GILBERT TOWN COUNCIL, IN SPECIAL MEETING FOR A STUDY
SESSION, TUESDAY, MARCH 5, 2024, AT 5:00 PM, MUNICIPAL BUILDING I, COUNCIL
CHAMBERS, 50 E. CIVIC CENTER DRIVE, GILBERT, ARIZONA
COUNCIL PRESENT: Mayor Brigette Peterson, Vice Mayor Scott Anderson,
Councilmembers Chuck Bongiovanni, Bobbi Buchli, Yung
Koprowski, Kathy Tilque, and Jim Torgeson
COUNCIL ABSENT: None.
STAFF PRESENT: Town Manager Patrick Banger, Town Clerk Chaveli Herrera,
Assistant to the Town Manager Jennika Horta
CALL TO ORDER OF SPECIAL MEETING
Mayor Peterson called the meeting to order at 5:04: p.m.
AGENDA ITEM
1. Discussion on Electric Vehicle Charging Stations.
Assistant to the Town Manager Horta presented the project background and said the
discussion would focus on electric vehicle (EV) charging prices and policies. She said the
Town currently operated three EV Charging Stations (EVCS). She said the one located at
Town Hall was not currently active; however, the other two stations were operational and
were located at the Public Safety Training Facility (PSTF) and the Hearne Way Parking
Garage in the Heritage District (HD.) She also noted that those two EVCS were not able to
collect data to understand the usage of those chargers. She stated that the Town was in
the process of replacing those EVCS and exploring the implementation of a fee to recoup the
cost of electricity dispensed by the new EVCS. She said the pilot period was recommended
for one year and would be just a starting point.
Eric Haggett, Director of Planning from the Chicago Office with Walker Consultants,
discussed Walker’s Methodology and said they began with talking to about 10 different Town
departments and tours of different locations to understand who might be using the locations.
He discussed speaking to manufacturers and then performing research on EV charging
policies and pricing in the Phoenix Metro area and other municipalities across the country.
He said there was no way to make a profit previously, but now that they were used more
commonly, they were exploring other options. He provided some peer research findings
using Chandler, Mesa, Tempe, Scottsdale, and Guadalupe, as well as Arizona State
University and the State of Arizona. They looked to document the cost to charge, charging
time limit, fee imposed if not actively charging vehicle, paid parking required, and charging
equipment vendor. He then discussed that Gilbert did not have EVs in the Town’s fleet other
than one hybrid fire engine. He said some cities did have EVCS in their fleet and noted that
the City of Tempe had 30 or more charging stations dedicated to fleet vehicle charging. He
then summarized their recommended fees for charging stations that were currently being
installed in Gilbert. He said the goals were recouping the cost of electricity dispensed,
aligning with the market rates in the Phoenix area, potentially recouping some of the upfront
costs, and encouraging people who actually used the charging spaces and were not just
parking there. He said for public users and Town Employees, their recommendation was
$0.25 per kilowatt hour (kWh) cost to charge for the first four hours, then up to $0.70 per
kWh. He discussed an idle fee that could be assessed if a vehicle had finished charging and
then was still parked in the charging station. He also noted a fine for an Internal Combustion
Engine (ICE) Vehicle in EV Space or EV not plugged into the EVCS, stating they
recommended up to $350.00, and that dollar amount matched the current State statute
amount. He explained the term “icing” as someone intentionally parking in an EVCS space
so that it could not be used by others. He then stated for Town Fleet Vehicle drivers, the
recommendation was for free EVCS usage and to encourage them to charge on certain days
and times. He then discussed the EV vs ICE Vehicle Fueling Cost Comparison with electric
vehicles and that neither vehicle was favored. He also discussed recommended tracking via
a radio-frequency identification (RFID) card issued to the Town employee and the days and
times for usage that were recommended at Town Hall Campus, Hearne Way Garage, and
the Public Safety Training Facility. He provided the potential revenue at the $0.25
recommended rate for kWh could total $6,500 per year in net revenue based on all of the
charging stations working at the three listed locations. He said the net revenue would take
place after paying for the cost of the electricity dispensed. He added the next steps would
be for the Council to move forward with the recommended pricing structure for the pilot, post
notice of intent for 60 days, and return to the Council in May to seek adoption of the fees.
Councilmember Bongiovanni asked about the replacement cost for the newer EVCS, their
lifespan, and the maintenance required. Eric Haggett said that a new EVCS cost about
$7,500 and had an estimated lifespan of about 10 years. He said that the Town would opt
for a service contract that would cover the maintenance of the EVCS.
Councilmember Tilque said she understood that the existing stations were not currently
charging users for their use; instead, the Town was covering the electricity cost. The question
was whether employees would be issued cards to swipe at the stations, and then the
corresponding department would be billed for the usage. Assistant to the Town Manager
Horta said if it was a Town employee charging their own vehicle, they would be charged
separately, but if they were charging a Town vehicle, yes, it would be tracked and accounted
for. Councilmember Tilque said she supported the pilot program and she didn’t think it was
fair for the Town to solely pay for the cost of the electricity when it was available to the public.
Councilmember Tilque asked the Council if they implemented it for short period of time and
if the Town would recover the infrastructure cost, to which the Council said yes.
Councilmember Koprowski asked if the non-smart EVCS at the Hearne Garage were at the
end of life, or if they could be used elsewhere. Assistant to the Town Manager Horta stated
she would have to check, but said they would not be able to provide data on those stations.
Councilmember Koprowski asked what the maximum output rate per hour was; Eric Haggett
replied seven kWh per hour. Walker Consultants Anirudh Chopde, Principal of the Phoenix
office, said these EVCS were Level 2 universal stations and put 40 kWh amps, as opposed
to the Tesla EVCS, which put out 75 amps. Councilmember Koprowski recommended
charging by the hour for the public's ease. Eric Haggett said a flat hourly fee would cause
some to get more or less charge, so he said charging by the kWh fee would make more
sense. Councilmember Koprowski discussed the fee for people parking there but not using
them, stating she was in favor of the $350 to be consistent with state law, but said it was
steep and asked about a graduated fee. Councilmember Koprowski discussed the proposed
recommended usage times, stating it would be best to be consistent with the times to make
it easier to understand. Eric Haggett stated it would be more of an internal public policy, not
posted anywhere for the general public. Councilmember Koprowski asked if they knew how
much they were spending annually for electricity for Hearne Garage; Assistant to the Town
Manager Horta stated she could provide that data at a later date. Councilmember Koprowski
asked about EV-first vehicles for the Town but said she preferred a use case. Assistant to
the Town Manager Horta stated they would update that in the final draft.
Councilmember Torgeson asked if this was just a pilot study to find out what the cost would
be for the Town. Assistant to the Town Manager Horta said it was, and in that year, the
Town would be able to figure out how much the cost would be, and moving forward, they
would bring data on replacement costs thus far and data on usage. Councilmember
Torgeson asked that in the year, they would be able to bring forth the infrastructure cost and
see how much the Town would lose. Assistant to the Town Manager Horta stated they could
bring back actual data after the one-year mark rather than use estimates.
Councilmember Buchli inquired about cities and towns that had incorporated installation fees
along with the cost of the EVCS. She expressed interest in reviewing relevant data. Eric
Haggett said that he hadn’t encountered any instances where Level 2 EVCS significantly
contributed to financial gains. He emphasized that home charging remained the most cost-
effective option. He said regarding the specific plans, the Town was considering the
purchase of a total of 15 units, which translated to 30 charging ports across the three existing
sites. Councilmember Buchli asked about the cost of the individual EVCS units, to which
Eric Haggett indicated it would be approximately $10,000, or $7,500 for the Town, plus other
associated fees.
Vice Mayor Anderson expressed his view that the limited investment in charging stations
might be due to the fact that most people charged their EV at home. He raised the question
of whether our EVCS, which could be exclusively used by our fleet, could be repurposed
before they became obsolete. He inquired about the placement of these charging stations
in relation to handicapped spaces. He said if not located adjacent to such spaces, ICE
vehicles might be pushed further back. Eric Haggett and Anirudh Chopde clarified that the
EVCS could indeed be dedicated solely to the Town’s fleet. They also noted that while some
of the EVCS were positioned near handicapped spaces, others are situated on a different
level of the parking structure, or at alternative locations. They said a thoughtful discussion
highlighted the need to adapt and optimize charging.
Mayor Peterson recommended, in the interest of time, that the Council gather any questions
to be submitted. Councilmember Bongiovanni recommended that they postpone the second
study session item until the April meeting.
2. Discussion on the Office of Digital Government related to the department scope, mission,
public messaging, post content, funding and name of office.
This item was not discussed; the Council requested the item discussion be postponed until
April 2, 2024.
ADJOURN
Mayor Peterson adjourned the meeting at 5:51 p.m.
ATTEST:
___________________________ ___________________________________
Brigette Peterson, Mayor Chaveli Herrera, MMC, Town Clerk
CERTIFICATION
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and correct copy of the minutes of the
Study Session of the Town Council of the Town of Gilbert held on the 5th day of March, 2024.
I further certify that the meeting was duly called and held and that a quorum was present.
Dated this __________ day of ______________, 2024.
___________________________________
Chaveli Herrera, MMC, Town Clerk
Agenda
Council Study Session Agenda
March 5, 2024
Brigette Peterson, Mayor ● Scott Anderson, Vice Mayor
Chuck Bongiovanni ● Bobbi Buchli ● Yung Koprowski ● Kathy Tilque ● Jim Torgeson
Members may attend in person or by telephone.
Municipal Center I, Council Chambers
3/5/2024 5:00:00 PM
50 E. Civic Center Drive
Gilbert, Arizona
Study Sessions are open to the public. Discussion of agenda items is reserved for the Council and
Staff. No decisions are made or action taken during the Study Session.
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
AGENDA ITEMS
1. Discussion on Electric Vehicles Charging Stations.
2. Discussion on the Office of Digital Government related to the departments scope, mission,
public messaging, post content, funding and name of office.
ADJOURN
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