City Council Agendas & Minutes
Regular MeetingHampton, VA · March 10, 2010
Minutes
City of Hampton, VA 22 Lincoln Street
Meeting Minutes Hampton, VA 23669
www.hampton.gov
City Council
Randall A. Gilliland Joseph H. Spencer, II
Ross A. Kearney, II George E. Wallace
Angela Lee Leary Paige V. Washington, Jr.
Molly Joseph Ward, Mayor
Staff:
Mary Bunting, City Manager
Cynthia Hudson, City Attorney
Katherine K. Glass, Clerk of Council
Brenda J. Vaccarelli, Deputy Clerk
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 1:03 PM Council Chambers, 8th Floor, City Hall
CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Molly Joseph Ward presided
Present: Ross A. Kearney, II, Angela Lee Leary, Joseph H. Spencer, II,
George E. Wallace, Paige V. Washington, Jr.
Absent: Randall A. Gilliland
Mayor Ward explained that Councilman Gilliland has been delayed in traffic
Agenda
1. 10-0111 Budget Process Update
Ms. Mary Bunting, City Manager, stated as the Council members know, they are
continuing the ongoing dialogue about the budget process and this Council and staff
have committed to doing a variety of things to get broad based input from the citizenry
and the employees regarding the budget situation, that not only the City faces, but all
localities throughout the State. She said staff has been doing a variety of forms of
polling and today staff will introduce some of their efforts to engage folks in
organizational settings as well as informal settings. The City Manager noted that the
Peninsula Town Center will be opening on Thursday, March 11, 2010, and staff will be
receiving public comment at the opening. She said there will be a variety of ways for
people to input on the budget and today staff will summarize the information received.
The City Manager said each member of Council has been given a book and information
will be sent to Council in their Friday packet to be added over time. She explained that a
summary of the polling information is included in the book. She said Tab 6 is
Organizational Chats and she participated in one at the Buckroe Civic Association
meeting on Tuesday, March 9, 2010. The City Manager said staff has set up a system
where staff can record what people are saying at the site. She explained that the
information was printed out so the people could concur that the notes reflect what they
said. She further explained that each Friday, Council will receive information that
reflects the results of each group staff has visited.
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Councilman Kearney asked if the information listed were unanimous decisions by the
entire group or by individuals. In response, the City Manager said they are individual
comments. She thanked Councilman Kearney for the clarification. She said if people
made repetitive comments it would be listed more than once and that would be reflected
in the information. She said they are not trying to capture people nodding their heads in
agreement because that is hard to do in a large room. She said they are trying to
capture the flavor of the meeting and that is what it is intended to do. The City Manager
said all of this effort is not to do any kind of voting but to give the public as many
opportunities as possible to feel like they have an opportunity to be heard so she and
staff can take that into account in the City Manager’s Recommended Budget. She said
she is providing Council with the same data so that as Council reflects upon the City
Manager’s Recommended Budget, it can see how staff put it together. She said she
believes everyone knows that they are very careful in all of their settings to explain that
the City has many factors to balance including legal requirements, fiduciary
responsibilities, for individuals who can’t speak for themselves, for instance children.
She said young children can’t speak for themselves in these kinds of sessions and she
will balance all those things just as Council will balance all those things and she believes
the general public understands that. The City Manager said she wanted to provide
Council a mechanism for keeping that kind of data readily at hand and judge the budget
provided to Council on April 15, 2010, against the data. She said she will point out in the
City Manager’s message to Council, as well as the public comments, how the public
flavor gets represented in the budget, but also where she could not honor it because of
constraints. She said this is just a tool to help Council better understand what the public
is saying in the various environments. The City Manager noted that staff will be doing a
variety of things from the surveying and polling results, staff surveying around
compensation choices which was started this week and will be finished on Friday, March
12, 2010. She said there will be informal chats at places like the Peninsula Town Center
or large community events. She noted that a calendar of events is included under Tab
2. The City Manager said staff will be at some of the shows at the arena as well as the
Hampton Roads Convention Center (HRCC) and all the information will be summarized
and Council will be told which tab to place the information under. She said they are
going all out to ensure people have a chance to be heard and the book is a way to keep
the information organized.
The City Manager said Ms. Chris Snead, Director of Budget and Management Analylsis,
will begin in reviewing the results of Council’s poll on February 10, 2010. She said
Council specifically requested that staff get with employees to determine their thoughts
about the budget choices to include the results of the retirement incentive survey that
was conducted which will be addressed during the evening Council meeting under
Agenda Item #17, authorizing that program. The City Manager said Mr. John Eagle,
Assistant City Manager, will review the summary of the citizen polling results. She said
that although the full detail is included in the book under Tab 3, staff will provide a high
level summary for the general public as well. The City Manager said staff has a lot of
information to share with Council and she hopes it will be informative. She said staff
welcomes any feedback from Council at the conclusion of the presentations.
Councilman Washington said he was pleased to have a tool that provides all the
information needed in order for Council to make determinations based on that
information. He said he has received questions from his community as to the meeting
that was held and the results that were generated because of the meeting.
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The City Manager said all the information staff is providing Council today will be placed
on the Internet so folks can access it. She said staff also made the commitment, at
several suggestions from citizens, to put the information in libraries and community
centers and those kinds of venues. The City Manager said it is their custom to provide
the information to Council first, but after today, the survey results will be on line for
citizens to see.
Ms. Snead said she will provide three short presentations to Council. The first is the
results of Council’s polling regarding the budget principles that were addressed at the
February 10, 2010, Council meeting. She said staff briefed Council on several possible
budget principles that could be used to balance the budget and staff distributed a survey
to Council. Ms. Snead noted that Council has the actual tally of the survey as well as
the various comments that were made by Council.
Employee Compensation/Benefit
Ms. Snead said Council overwhelmingly agreed to staff polling the employees regarding
the Retirement Incentive Program and she will brief Council on those results later in the
presentation. Ms. Snead said Council agreed to institute some level of salary reduction
as a balancing strategy, if necessary. She said Council agreed and she believes there
were some various approaches as to how Council agreed but believed it was a good
option if needed. Ms. Snead said on the rest of the options, Council had varying and
preferred approaches regarding health insurance, furloughs and the like.
Other Budgeting Principles
Ms. Snead said Council overwhelmingly favored consolidating services within the City
and with outside entities and Council strongly favored raising service related fees that
could be implemented in this budget session. She said the City Manager has put
together a group of employees who are looking at that to come up with the various fees
that could be increased in this budget. Ms. Snead said Council agreed that freezing
vacant positions was something they could live with as well as reducing non-core
supported services.
Councilman Kearney said this was discussed in general so much and the proof is going
to be in the pudding. He asked if the freezing would hinder the City Manager in
performing her job. In response, the City Manager said the City has an exception
process for critical skilled jobs. She explained that the City recently authorized the hiring
of some police officer positions that were vacant because they were needed for manning
purposes. She said the way they would approach a freeze is having the ability to
accept, if necessary and for critical purposes, but otherwise keep the positions frozen
and she recommends that.
Ms. Snead continued her presentation noting that use of fund balance for one-time
expenditures was acceptable by the majority of Council. However, reducing hours of
operation for certain facilities such as libraries and community centers, wasn’t
overwhelmingly favored even though she believes it would be acceptable if they had to
do that.
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Ms. Snead stated in addition to the survey, staff posed several questions to Council for
input regarding what strategies should be used to balance the budget and that
information is included in the Council book.
Workforce Feedback
Ms. Snead stated at the February 10, 2010, Council meeting, staff was asked to poll the
workforce on the compensation and benefit changes. She noted that three employee
meetings were held on Tuesday, March 9, 2010, and two will be held on March 11,
2010, one in the afternoon and one in the evening. She said staff has allotted for 100
employees at each meeting because they have 100 polling devices. Ms. Snead noted
that if needed, staff will schedule additional meetings. She said on-line surveys will be
available as well. Ms. Snead said employees are asked to use the honor system and
only vote once and they are reminded that this is not a referendum or a binding vote.
Ms. Snead said staff has to look at the entire budget perspective and look at the entire
organization.
Councilman Kearney asked what the reaction of the employees has been. In response,
Ms. Snead said she has not attended the meetings.
The City Manager said she attended and the reaction was split. There were some that
favored furloughs and others favored the Virginia Retirement System (VRS) contribution.
Councilman Kearney said he was referring to the opportunity for the employees to voice
their opinion. In response, the City Manager said the employees have been very
appreciative. She said they have received a lot of e-mails indicating that they did not like
that the City had to look at these kinds of things but they appreciate the opportunity to
weigh in about them. She said the actual responses have been mixed in that there has
not been an overwhelming trend yet.
Councilman Kearney said the City Manager took a big step in letting the employees
have a voice in this because he has not heard of this being done in other governmental
agencies. In response, the City Manager said she believes it is very fair to say they
have been very positive about the opportunity. She said staff has been clear to express
that this was an idea of Council as well as staff.
Councilman Washington said he has been receiving some unsolicited concerns about
the terms being used such as furloughs, laying off, or passing on of insurance costs,
because that is the nature of the beast at this point because everything is on the table.
He said he has tried to convey that to those individuals who have come to him that it is
too early in the game to lock in and to be considering things of that nature.
Councilman Wallace complemented the City Manager for the process she is using
because there have been various means and methodologies in trying to solicit employee
input and this is carrying the process to a new level in employee involvement.
Areas Covered and Explained
Ms. Snead said the City Manager’s express goal is to minimize as much impact to the
employees as possible, but this is a very difficult budget year and they will try their very
best at doing that. She said employees were asked their different opinions regarding
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furloughs, salary reductions, sharing in the employee contribution of VRS, health
insurance premiums and co-pays.
Employee Polling
Ms. Snead stated as a warm up, employees were asked their age, business team,
gender and education level so staff could ensure they were comfortable with the polling
process. She said each option was explained and employees were asked their
tolerance level for the areas whether they were acceptable, somewhat acceptable,
somewhat unacceptable, unacceptable or had no opinion.
Role of Reductions
Ms. Snead stated the employees were also asked about their preference and if their
reason was that they wanted to protect all jobs or did they understand and were they
okay with the fact that they would still take salary reductions and benefit reductions even
if jobs were eliminated.
Other Questions
Ms. Snead said they were also asked what level of salary reductions they were willing to
accept, and their tolerance level for 0% to 5% reductions.
Retirement Incentive Survey Results
Ms. Snead said at the February 10, 2010, Council meeting, Council allowed staff to
survey those employees that met the criteria staff established for an early retirement
incentive. She explained that staff will brief Council on the survey results and Council is
requested to approve the Retirement Incentive Program if Council agrees, and to
appropriate the funding from designated fund balance. She explained the Retirement
Incentive Program involves a one-time salary incentive to employees who opt to retire
between March 1, 2010, and August 1, 2010. She further explained there is some
flexibility depending on how soon the notices can be sent out and it may go to
September 1, 2010. Ms. Snead said this includes employees who are eligible for full
retirement that have VRS eligible requirements for full retirement. She said it also
includes employees who can retire at a reduced retirement benefit that may not have the
full number of years required but they have to have a specific age requirement of at least
50. Ms. Snead said it includes employees who are eligible for unreduced retirement
benefits. She explained that those are employees who are at least 65 years of age but
may have only 5, 7 or 10 years. She said they may have 20 years, but they don’t have
the full 30 years, but because of their age, they can retire with an unreduced benefit
factor. Ms. Snead said the employee paperwork has to be returned to Finance by April
19, 2010, in order to qualify. She said 288 surveys were mailed out and 125 went to
employees who are eligible for full retirement, 134 employees were within the 20 to 29
years and eligible for reduced retirement, and 29 employees were eligible for the
unreduced benefit, at least 65 years of age with 5 years of service. Ms. Snead said the
survey was sent out mainly on the years of service but staff learned that there are 48
employees who had at least 25 years of services that did not meet the age requirement
which left a net number of respondents of 240 people. She noted that of the 240
employees surveyed a total of 59 employees responded they would take advantage of
the early retirement incentive, 23 employees from the full retirement category, 22 from
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the reduced category and 14 from the unreduced benefit category. Ms. Snead said the
total savings to the budget includes only FICA so the number would increase once they
fill in behind the position and take the savings.
Vice Mayor Spencer asked if there would be other discussion with the 240 employees
that are eligible other than the survey. He said he wants to ensure that everyone
understands the seriousness of what the City is facing. He said he understands that this
was just a survey but he would like to know if there is going to be a meeting with the 240
people, or one-on-one meetings.
Ms. Mary Bunting, City Manager, said they have conducted a survey and in addition to
the survey, Finance prepared for each individual who was eligible for full and reduced
benefit an estimate of what the incentive would be, what their retirement pay would be,
both from VRS and HERS, if they were HERS eligible. She said those employees who
were eligible for full unreduced benefit have already received a statement from Finance
explaining what their benefit eligibility is and they had that information when they were
making the decisions.
Vice Mayor Spencer asked if the employees made the decision at the same time they
were presented with the information. He asked if they had time to talk with their spouse.
In response, the City Manager said the employees received it in time to complete the
survey results but they didn’t have more than a day or two to do that. She said staff
made it clear that the survey was just a survey and it was not binding either in the
affirmative or the negative and that the employees would have more time to make the
final determination. She explained that if Council approves the incentive during the
evening Council meeting, staff will provide the paperwork to all employees, whether they
said yes or no and appointments will be set up to go over the paperwork and they will
have the opportunity for a one-on-one interview. She further explained in the 45 days
they would have to make a final decision, they will have time to explore it further with
their spouses or family members. The City Manager said the numbers that Ms. Snead
shared with Council today are significantly different than what staff is asking Council to
appropriate because they want to allow for the fact that maybe some employees who
said no initially will change their minds. She said they cannot do anything overt to
encourage people to do it because it has to be freely of their own volition and staff
cannot say if they don’t take this option their job might be gone. The employees have to
make their own determination. The City Manager said staff will do all they can in a
facilitated way so the employees will have the information they need to make an
unencumbered decision as to whether this is right for them or not. She said staff is not
trying to draw any implications about specific jobs or what will happen or what won’t
happen with jobs because the two are totally unrelated. She said staff is making
decisions on the budget based upon service need as has been discussed. She said the
savings assume that they will fill behind all of those positions at the entry level salary of
the salary range. She said it may be that savings go up if certain jobs can be eliminated
in the budget process although that determination is completely separate and apart from
this process. She noted that in this process the savings is assuming that everyone of
those jobs will be filled at the starting salary range for that job. The City Manager said
the employees will have more time and she believes that by April 19, 2010, more
employees will say yes because they will have had more time to see their numbers, talk
with Finance and talk with their family as opposed to doing a quick turn around survey.
She said an employee that said yes could change their mind and someone who said no
could change their mind and retire.
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Councilman Wallace asked if the chart provided to Council reflected the 59 employees
who said they would accept the incentive. He asked if it would be beneficial for the City
in terms of Council making judgments subsequently, if the savings that are reflected in
the chart would also be shown simultaneously with the savings that are estimated from
furloughs and reductions in the various other options in terms of FICA and contributions
to the retirement program. He said if those could be placed side by side it would be
helpful. In response, Ms. Snead said when staff presents the budget to Council staff will
ensure that all of those savings are aligned as part of the employee compensation
benefit reduction.
Councilman Wallace said that would allow Council to make judgments based on all the
information in front of them at the same time.
Ms. Snead said the number could go up as more employees have time to ponder their
numbers and check with their families. She said the exact numbers will not be realized
until they have a confirmed list of retirees because some of the 181 employees who said
no were undecided and they indicated the reason was because they needed more
information and time to talk with a financial advisor or family member. Ms. Snead said
they have already had some employees who have changed their minds after receiving
their numbers from Finance.
The City Manager said she wants to ensure that the public understands the cost is one
time funds but the savings are recurring. She said year after year the City would be
permanently reducing its payroll.
Ms. Snead said staff would like Council to approve the resolution to offer the retirement
incentive package and appropriate the funds from designated fund balance.
Mayor Ward thanked Ms. Snead for the presentation.
The City Manager said Mr. Eagle will present the information from the citizen polling
events. She said there were five polling events during budget week and they were very
well attended. She noted that a separate event was held for youth in the community.
Note: Councilman Gilliland entered the meeting at 1:33 p.m.
Mr. Eagle made the following presentation to Council:
Overview
• Staff conducted five public forums
• A sixth was conducted for teens only
• Over 270 people attended with 235 polling responses received (10 times the
number from last year)
• Over 200 online survey responses received thus far
• No paper surveys
• These will augment less formal sessions currently being scheduled
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Audience Polling Technology
• Anonymous polling
• Immediate real-time feedback
• Ability to cross-tabulate
• Merge capability
• Helped to create a “buzz” in the community and have greater participation
• Not every service is listed for practical reasons, however those asked about in
initial forums were added in subsequent forums
Councilman Wallace asked if the various tabulations included ethnicity. In response,
Mr. Eagle responded yes.
Mr. Eagle continued his presentation with the following information:
Using the Data
• Only one component of our analysis
• Helps us to understand the community’s values and what areas of the City
services they feel are most important
• This information does not circumvent our obligation to ensure services are
provided to those not represented (i.e., abused children)
• Helps us to analyze the impact of certain reductions and if there are certain
demographics that are impacted we should be aware of
• Just one of our alignment tools; also guided by our internal analyses; community
and business plans
Councilman Washington asked if the information under Tab 3 was all of the aggregate of
the meetings that were held. In response, Mr. Eagle said one was an aggregate of the
first five sessions, the teen forum was by itself and then they combined them. He said
the teen forum was a separate demographic to see how they compared against the rest
of the groups.
Demographic Representation
• Diversity of respondents across demographic categories of gender, age, income,
race, education and geographic areas
Overcharching Themes
• Each category of services is listed according to their ranking within the category
by need/want
• The percentages are indicated in parenthesis
• The service receiving the highest importance is asterisked if it is not the top
ranked by need
• Keep in mind there are many ways to interpret the data – this is one “view”
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Arts, Culture and Recreation
• Public Libraries (87/11)
• Community and neighborhood Centers (62/34)
• Youth Sports (61/35)
• Community Outreach on Diversity (29/56)
• Arts Commission and American Theatre (25/72)
• Hampton History Museum (22/71)
Councilman Kearney asked about the figures for the Public Libraries. In response, Mr.
Eagle explained that the figure indicates percentage and not the number of people
responding. He said 11% said the Libraries were something they wanted and 87% said it
was something they felt was needed.
Councilman Kearney asked if that was a 98% approval rating. In response, Mr. Eagle
said he doesn’t believe so. He said they asked if the services were seen as a want or a
need and in some cases it doesn’t add up to 100 because some answers were not
given. He said in some ways it mirrors the City’s satisfaction rating. He said everyone
knows the libraries, Fire and EMS always receive the very highest marks in the survey.
Economic Vitality
• Retain and Expand Existing Businesses (73/20)
• Attract New Businesses (69/28)
• Attract Tourism and Conventions (62/35)
• Remove Blighted Properties (58/35)
• Master Plan Implementation (44/46)
• Encourage Minority Business Development (40/52)
Councilman Kearney stated regarding the 58% for removal of blighted properties, he
would be interested in knowing how that question was answered depending on which
part of the City the person lives in. He said if someone lives in a newer neighborhood,
Howe Farms or Michael’s Woods, it would be less important than if the person lives in an
older neighborhood. He asked if there was a way to track that information. In response,
Mr. Eagle said staff is able to track that information.
Infrastructure
• Maintain Streets Roads and Bridges (93/6)
• Maintain City Street Lights (85/14)
• Upkeep Public facilities (85/14)
• Maintain Traffic Signals (82/14)
• Improve Drainage for Heavy Rains (81/17)*
• Insect and Mosquito Control (66/52)
• Maintain parks and Playgrounds (63/36)
• Maintain Athletic Fields (54/43)
• Enhance Landscaping (18/77)
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Councilman Wallace asked about the asterisk beside Improved Drainage for Heavy
Rains. In response, Mr. Eagle said they were asked whether it was viewed as a need or
a want and the relative importance of the item. He said they were also asked whether or
not they would like to see the item reduced or maintained. Mr. Eagles explained part of
the analysis was comparing how those questions tracked against one another and if they
saw areas where they believed it was a need but also say it was important. He said staff
was trying to determine if there were some consistencies in the values in the community
and all of them tracked. He explained that in the public forums improving drainage was
the highest importance.
Councilman Wallace said the need was high but the want was not correspondingly high.
In response, Mr. Eagle said the need was not as high as the importance.
Mr. Eagle continued his presentation with the following information:
Housing and Neighborhoods
• Building Inspections (86/12)
• Enforcing Zoning Ordinances (63/28)
• Building and land use Plan Review (54/37)
• Strategic Community Planning (46/48)
• Foster Civic Engagement Opportunities (45/50)
• Services to Support Neighborhoods (42/54)
• Improving the Image of Neighborhoods (32/65)
Public Safety
• Emergency Medical and Fire Response (98/2)
• E911 Dispatch (95/4)
• Crime Investigation (94/5)
• Uniform Patrol (90/8)
• Disaster Preparedness and Management (88/11)
• Financial Support for Volunteer Firefighters (74/24)
• Animal Control Services (55/42)
Schools
• Public Schools for Grades K-12 (90/9)
• School Crossing Guards (68/30)
• Maintain School Grounds (61/38)
Quality Government
• Internal Government Support (78/18)
• Outside Agency Funding (52/43)
• 311 Customer Call Center (50/47)
• Communicating with the Public and media (48/47)
• Cable Broadcast Programming (27/69)
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Mr. Eagle said he was surprised that the respondents said it was a need but they
recognize that the City does have to have internal support, but they also said they would
like to see a reduction in administrative overhead.
Councilman Wallace said people that use the 311 Call Center overwhelmingly say how
important it is and what a great service it is, but his is stymied by what the results reflect.
The City Manager said that really perplexed her as well. She said she has talked with
some folks about this and one of the things she doesn’t believe people realize is how the
311 Call Center was created. She said they didn’t add a whole new level of government,
but positions were reallocated from departments to create the 311 Call Center. She said
she believes there is an inherent assumption that if the 311 Call Center went away there
are still people in the department to answer the calls, but staff knows that is not the case.
The City Manager said she believes people were saying they like it very much but they
thought it could go away and people could answer the phones in the departments. She
said this is a good example of where we need to delve into more because the people
don’t understand how it is structured.
Mayor Ward said she believes more people need to know that the 311 Call Center is
available and what a great resource it is and if they voted against it, they probably never
have used it.
Councilman Wallace said he is constantly taken back when asking people if they have
used the 311 Call Center and he is told they didn’t know the service existed. He added
that the City Manager knows about this because she was a team leader when the 311
Call Center was created.
Councilwoman Leary said the 311 Call Center is probably one of the most important
elements the City had when 500 families were taken in from Hurricane Katrina in New
Orleans, Louisiana. She said the 311 Call Center was vital to the City in order for those
individuals to be able to pick up any phone in Hampton, dial 311. She said the 311
advocates had a crib sheet in front of them of everything the City was able to offer the
evacuees and where they could go to get it. She said she believes Mr. Eagle has gone
to New York City and they have implemented the 311 system. She said she believes it
is vital to the City and she believes they could do more to promote its use.
Councilwoman Leary asked if the outside agency funding included or excluded table
sponsorships. In response, Mr. Eagle said he doesn’t believe that was mentioned. He
said they covered a wide range of other things that are covered under that to include
things of that nature.
Councilwoman Leary said it wasn’t specifically mentioned but it was included in what you
were presenting.
Youth and Families
• Health Department Programs (82/17)
• Social Service Programs (77/21)
• Healthy Start (61/35)
• Teen Center (46/52)
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• Coalition for Youth Services (45/52)
• Parenting Programs (43/53)
Potential Revenue Options
• Cigarette tax (66)
• User Fees for Service (Golf Course, Recreation Programs (53)
• Amusement/Admissions Tax (40)
• Personal property (includes Boat and RV) (37)
• Real Estate Tax Rate (to offset decrease in assessments) (26)
• Restaurant/Meals tax (25)
• No increase in user fees (21)
• Unsure (3)
Vice Mayor Spencer asked if it was 66% or 66 respondents to the cigarette tax. In
response, Mr. Eagle said it is 66%.
The City Manager said there were different opinions about what revenue choice
someone might look at because only 21% said they wouldn’t increase anything, taxes or
user fees. She said there seems to be some sentiment that certain things might be
acceptable.
Vice Mayor Spencer said the Personal property including boats and RV’s is interesting
with only 37%.
Councilman Kearney referenced the slide regarding Quality Government. He said he is
a great supporter of cable programs and he believes it is in its infancy right now. He
said the percentage is an example of how it is not being used the way it should be used.
He said during the day, instead of showing something that came out of Richmond, it
should be showing how to get involved with Bay Days or the 311 Call Center or how to
volunteer to be a member of a variety of clubs or organizations. He said it should be
used as a mechanism to explain to the community what the City has available. He said
if it was used more effectively that number would increase dramatically.
Vice Mayor Spencer asked if people were questioned if they have cable when asked that
question or did they avoid answering the question. In response, Mr. Eagle said he would
have to go back and look.
The City Manager said they were going through 180 some questions with folks in 90
minutes.
Vice Mayor Spencer said he was not being picky and he understands this was the first
time but he believes people have made helpful suggestions and they were not being
critical about the process. He said he believes it is a wonderful concept and idea but
there is always some tweaking to be done and one is to ask if they even have cable.
Mayor Ward said that could float a lot of the questions just as Councilman Wallace’s
point about the 311 Call Center. She said if people use the Healthy Families babysitting
classes, or have been to a public library or attended an event at the Hampton Arts
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Commission they will feel completely different about it than if they have not used the
service. She said she believes that same logic could be extended to all the questions.
The City Manager said they will look at those suggestions for the next round and she
believes they are all good suggestions. She said if they were to go into specifics for
each of these it wouldn’t have been a 90 minute session. She said if folks are willing to
engage at that level for that amount of time, adding the question that Councilman
Wallace suggested about using a service would make a lot of sense.
Councilman Washington said to some extent there was no real dialogue between those
who were trying to communicate versus what the staff was actually looking for. He said
he hopes the next round will afford the participants the opportunity to provide that
dialogue so they can fine tune some of the percentages to get a better feel relative to the
numbers that are reflected in the report.
The City Manager said that is why they are having the informal chats in order to take the
data to groups. She said it was very clear in some of the groups where the older
populations consistently valued youth activities and were rated extremely high.
Next Steps
• Full report will be available online
• Online survey will remain open until Monday, March 15, 2010
Councilwoman Leary said before she started the citizen engagement meetings, the City
Manager assigned staff to attend the meetings and they were a terrific help in capturing
all the questions. She said of the 11 meetings that were held, notes from 6 of the
meetings have been typed and the questions have been logged. She said if the City
Manager would like those outside of the whole package, there are 5 more meeting to go
and she can have them to incorporate in the things she has before March 15, 2010.
The City Manager said she will be glad to receive any input from any group or individual
from any group or individual and as she indicated to Councilwoman Leary previously,
she assumed that once she had the information compiled, it would be shared with all
members of Council.
Councilwoman Leary said the information regarding where the meeting was held, and
when as well as the content of the discussion.
Councilman Wallace asked for clarification regarding the data collected at
Councilwoman Leary’s civic engagement meetings and incorporating the information
with the data of the staff meetings. In response, Councilwoman Leary said she believes
the information should be given to the City Manager to do with as she sees fit.
Councilman Wallace said he would like to suggest to the City Manager that the
information from the different sessions be merged. He said because it was done under
two different kinds of contexts and two different sets of circumstances. He said the
orientation process was different because he attended two of Councilwoman Leary’s
sessions and consequently if they want to make that available to the community from her
individual sessions that is fine, but he doesn’t believe it should be incorporated or
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included and possibly skewing the data that has been taken in the process that the City
has used.
The City Manager said it would really be impossible to merge it into the data staff has.
She said she imagines taking it under advisement and sharing it with all of Council for
their perusal.
Councilwoman Leary said she didn’t believe it could be merged because she only asked
5 questions. She said she would provide the City Manager with the forms that were
filled out. She said she didn’t believe it could be merged into this information, it should
be included for the use of the City Manager and her staff and to be available for any
citizens that what to see it.
Councilman Wallace said Councilwoman Leary’s comment was a good clarification.
The City Manager said they will be talking about the budget again on March 24, 2010,
and again in April and May as they enter into the budget session more actively. She
said they stand ready to receive any thoughts from Council whether it is individually or
collectively now, as well as off line. She said if they have suggestions from people they
interact with or come in contact with, feel free to contact staff so they can factor that into
the analysis.
2. 10-0104 Briefing on Hampton's Response to the Request for Information
Regarding Google's Community Fiber Optic Project.
Ms. Mary Bunting, City Manager, said as most people know by now, Google has
adopted a process to provide hi-speed fiber connections for the Internet to a variety of
communities. She said there is a friendly competition going on across the country to
interest Google in various cities for these pilot efforts and Hampton definitely wants to try
and attract Google. She said they are limited in what they can do as a Dillon Rule State,
but they believe there are a lot of things in Hampton that should interest Google and they
want to conduct an extensive community outreach campaign to get the community
excited and engaged in that effort. She said Mr. John Eagle, Assistant City Manager, is
the lead person for the efforts and will summarize what the City is doing.
Mayor Ward said she talked with Mr. Eagle briefly before the meeting regarding the
Dillon Rule issue. She said she believes they should not let the Dillon Rule bind the City
and the State and the legislative representatives should be approached to discuss how
to become Google friendly and how they work with the State Department of Economic
Development to be accessible so that somebody in Virginia gets it, even if it isn’t
Hampton, or maybe they can get it as a region.
Mayor Ward said they don’t intend to let that damper their spirits.
The City Manager said they get more creative. She said Hampton is a city of many firsts
and they hope to extend this to being one of the first to get Google as well.
Councilman Washington asked if there was any significance as to how the survey is
going to play as far as the budget is concerned. In response, the City Manager said it is
very instrumental to her as she is making some decisions.
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Mr. John Eagle, Assistant City Manager, said this is a very exciting project and a result
for request for information that Google issued on February 10, 2010 which is called
Google Fiber for Communities. He said they are saying it is an experiment and their
goal is to make Internet access better and faster at an ultra high speed that is 100 times
faster than typical speeds that are currently available. Mr. Eagle said if someone was to
download a DVD HD movie from Netflix it would probably take several hours if not an
entire day to download, whereas with these kinds of speeds it could be done in a few
minutes. Mr. Eagle said they have indicated it will be competitively priced and they will
use an open network model which he believes is interesting. He explained an open
network model means that you wouldn’t necessarily be buying the services from Google
and this could be good for Cox Communications and Verizon because they could be the
one that provides the actual service through the Google infrastructure. He said Google
will offer the competitively priced service to at least 50,000 residents and to as many as
500,000 and it could be more than one community. Mr. Eagle noted the deadline is
March 26, 2010, for responding to the online Request for Information (RFI) and response
forms are available for local governments as well as individual residents and community
groups. Mr. Eagle said the City is planning a special event at the Hampton Roads
Convention Center (HRCC) on March 16, 2010, at 1 p.m. He stated the purpose of the
event is to gauge the interest and a variety of folks have been invited through E-News
and through various mechanisms through social media reaching out to National
Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), Langley Air Force Base (LAFB), to the
City’s hi-tech industry, and Hampton University (HU) to join the City in conversations so
they can combine the absolute best response.
Mr. Eagle said three things stand out in Google’s RFI. The first is there a market in the
community. Mr. Eagle said they hope to get people to attend the Facebook site to
indicate there is interest. He said Google asks those questions in the application
because they want to know what has been done to determine what kind of community
support there is for this kind of speed. The second thing is how fast they can deploy in
the community. What is the terrain like, the regulatory environment and what will it take
to get permits and right of way agreements. Mr. Eagle said Google asks whether the
local governing body would appoint a single point of contact in their application. Mr.
Eagle said the third thing is what this kind of speed would be used for. He said he
believes Google is looking for experimentation and innovation and thinking outside the
box. He said some of the things Google is looking for are 3-D medical imaging,
downloading an HD film and collaborating in a classroom or a research environment.
Mr. Eagle said he believes that is where things become interesting for Hampton because
the City has that kind of market. He said they know that Google already has a
relationship with folks at NASA. He said Hampton has hi-tech industry associated with
LAFB and the aerospace industry, the National Institute of Aerospace (NIA) and the
amount of research they do and the data that generates the need for hi-speed Internet.
Mr. Eagle noted in the medical environment, the Hampton University (HU) Proton Beam
Facility, Sentara and the entire medical complex that exists in Hampton Roads Center
Complex, and the Department of Defense industry and especially the Modeling and
Simulation industry which everyone knows the simulation environment creates an
enormous amount of data that needs to be transmitted back and forward between
various locations. Mr. Eagle said they believe this is the kind of market and environment
that Google might be interested in. He said the other component is conducting public
outreach to get more interest which is something Google has talked quite a bit about.
He said it is worth noting that Google is an eclectic company and Hampton has used that
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phrase to describe the City from time to time and it is noteworthy that Google has been
known for disrupting markets and they have this sort of intense creativity and innovation
and they are often noted as being first at a lot of things. He said Hampton also has this
tradition of firsts and along those lines staff thought they would put together a campaign
to make the public aware as well as to provide a package to Google that capitalizes on
that. He said the slogan is First to Fast and they have a URL and a FaceBook site. He
said the City also has a First to Fast domain name that will take you to these various
sites. He said it is brand new and if it doesn’t work the first time, please try it again in a
few hours because the Internet is not fast enough yet.
Councilman Washington said he has been getting several calls about this because of the
article in the newspaper about the City changing its name to Google. In response, Mr.
Eagle said everyone across the country is excited about this potential opportunity
because Google is such a neat company and the opportunity to get involved with them is
very inspiring. He said there was a city in the Midwest who said they would change the
name of their City to Google for one month. Mr. Eagle said Hampton will appeal to
Google’s bottom line and their sense of creativity. He said some of these things are
interesting and maybe even entertaining.
Councilman Kearney said they learned a lot in the City’s fight to secure the CYBER
Command at LAFB and he thought the large number of hi-technical people in the
workforce compared to the United States was a significant figure that can be used. He
said the number that came out of the State Economic Development Department
indicated that Hampton has more modeling and simulation in the City of Hampton than
any other community in the Commonwealth of Virginia, including Northern Virginia. He
asked if those statistics would be used. In response, Mr. Eagle said they would use
those statistics.
Mr. Eagle said Google has places in the on line application where they ask you to have
maps and links to videos if available. He said this is a full court press and they are
working with Metro, a company that has worked with the City in the past and has offered
to partner with the City. He said they are going to demonstrate that Hampton has a
market and a tradition of innovation and creativity to help them to do whatever they can.
Councilman Kearney stated a couple of years ago there was a discussion regarding the
possibility of the citizens communicating with the Council members during a Council
meeting. He asked if they had the hi-speed could that become a possibility. In
response, the City Manager said that is a possibility.
Councilman Kearney said he wasn’t sure if he wanted to do it. He said he wouldn’t be
there and that it would be a part of the next generation.
The City Manager said fiber opens up all kinds of possibilities.
Mr. Eagle encouraged everyone to find First to Fast on FaceBook, to take the Google
survey, and to register any comments and attend the March 16, 2010, event at the
HRCC. He said the event will only be about 2 hours and more in depth information will
be available to explain exactly what the application is so they can get as much input and
momentum with the community as possible. Mr. Eagle said the City’s application will
focus on the fact that the City has a great market and it is a great marriage for Google
and Hampton has the dedication and innovation Google is looking for.
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Councilwoman Leary said she received the following e-mail at 11 a.m. on Wednesday,
March 10, 2010. “The reason I am such a big supporter for Google coming in this area
is the option of having hi-speed for technical people and educational facilities. While
most people who just surf the web and get e-mail would not need this hi-speed and
higher cost access, they could continue using Verizon or Cox services they use now.
However, when you run big computational data heavy programs and they have to
transfer it to your home computer, the time it consumes is huge. At (one of the City’s
largest employers) they are testing a work from home one day every pay period in some
branches. With these quiet Fridays people work from home but still have to log into the
systems here to run tests and simulations. This would be a major benefit for them. This
also applies for school. When I was trying to finish up my thesis at William and Mary, my
home computer kept timing out as the data was taking so long to be received from the
school. What should have taken me a couple of hours to generate graphs, took me 24
hours. The other benefit is that it will be another reason why technical companies would
consider Hampton. I am glad to see the City attempting to get this service. I have seen
people complain on blogs, but I don’t think they realize they are not required to use
Google, it is just an option. Also, most who were saying it was a waste of time are really
not doing the types of computer work where they would pay more for this service
anyway.”
Councilwoman Leary said she believes this was a very good e-mail to share and she
believes in what the City is trying to do with this and she hopes the City is successful.
Mayor Ward thanked Mr. Eagle for the presentation.
New Business
Hampton Medal
Councilman Wallace said there are some individuals in the community that he believes
should be considered for the Hampton Medal and he would like staff to research this and
provide the information to Council to discuss at a future meeting.
New Courthouse/Garage
Councilman Wallace noted that Councilman Gilliland requested some information
relative to the garage associated with the new Courthouse. He said there may have
been some assumptions that were made about savings relative to not constructing the
garage now and what happens if the garage is constructed now, in terms of cost. He
asked if those computations have been made. Councilman Wallace said he would also
like Council to discuss this at a future meeting to come to a conclusion. He said he
realizes that they have already done the bond issue and that may pose some additional
problems, but he believes they should make a conscious effort and have a conscious
discussion about that situation because he believes they may have made a decision that
is not necessarily based on the most prudent expenditure of citizen tax dollars.
Mayor Ward said the City Manager is prepared to put the issue about the garage on the
March 24, 2010, Council meeting. She said the issue regarding the award is on the
Closed session agenda for this afternoon.
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Fort Monroe
Mayor Ward asked about an update on the Fort Monroe legislation.
Councilman Wallace asked if there was something on the evening agenda.
The City Manager said staff is prepared to provide the information under New Business.
Councilman Wallace said he wanted to have a staff representative or the City Manager
to discuss the legislation that is being considered or possibly passed in the General
Assembly relative to the new structure of the government for Fort Monroe. He said the
City of Hampton is only a small part of the governance of Fort Monroe and he is not sure
if the community is aware of this. He said with the change in administration they are
going to get a whole new series of new actors in the process although they will be
representing the same State departments. He said he thought at the time Council is
making this consideration they could also discuss what the composition of the new board
will be under the new legislation that is proposed and some of the actors they can
anticipate taking part in the process. Councilman Wallace said he and Vice Mayor
Spencer are Council representatives on the current Fort Monroe FADA and with the new
legislation they will have two new representatives who will have direct voting power and
can possibly influence the decisions in a greater way than under the current
arrangement.
Mayor Ward said she believes Ms. Cynthia E. Hudson, City Attorney, is going to brief
Council. She said the legislation passed in the House and the Senate but until the
Governor signs it, it doesn’t become law.
The City Attorney said the status of the Fort Monroe Authority Act which is what
Councilman Wallace referred to has passed both the House and the Senate in identical
form and awaits attention by the Governor in order to be final and effective at the usual
time for State legislation which would be July 1, 2010. She said it wasn’t an emergency
legislation so it wouldn’t go into effect any earlier than that, that she is aware of. She
said with respect to Councilman Wallace’s specific request, which is to discuss the
structure of the board of the new authority as is proposed under Senate Bill 315. She
said the House Bill is identical which is sponsored by Delegate Tom Gear, and Senator
Mamie Locke sponsored the Senate Bill. She stated 15.2.7202 of the Bill establishes a
Board of Trustees of the Fort Monroe Authority which expressly is stated to succeed to
the interests and to the authority and the powers and the duties and the contracts and
everything else, of what is presently the Fort Monroe Federal Area Development
Authority (FMFADA). She said that entity would cease to exist and all power of the City
of Hampton to affect the composition, policies and direction of the FMFADA would go
away because it would cease to exist and the act that allowed the City to create that
Authority and to otherwise affect its future is repealed expressly by this Bill. She said
with respect to the Board of the Trustees and having been involved in the discussions
with the Attorney General’s Office, out of which this bill grew, there was a very deliberate
decision to make it a Board of Trustees to impose upon the appointed members the
extreme gravity of their roles and responsibilities with respect to the management of this
property and the implementation of its plan for reuse of Fort Monroe. She said the Fort
Monroe Authority is what the entity would be called and it would be a political subdivision
and public body corporate in its own right, pretty much as any political subdivision such
as the City of Hampton is. She said it is governed by an eleven member of Board of
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Trustees, the composition of which includes the Secretary of Natural Resources, the
Secretary of Commerce and Trade, directly from the Governor’s cabinet as well as a
member of the Senate of the State and a member of the House of Delegates of the State
that represents the District in which Fort Monroe lies, and two members to be appointed
by the Hampton City Council. The City Attorney said with respect to the FMFADA,
Hampton had appointment power for a number of members but none of them could be
elected officials of the City of Hampton. She said they do not have that limitation in this
Bill so the City Council members might be appointed by the Council to serve and vote as
voting members on the Board. She noted there are five non-legislative citizen members
to be appointed by the Governor and specifically they are to be chosen with regard to
the possession of certain expertise in areas that are necessary to implement the reuse
plan. The City Attorney said they must be appointed with a view toward expertise in
historic preservation, tourism, environmental matters, real estate matters, finance
matters and education. She said it is very specific to state that at least one of those
shall be a citizen representative from the Hampton Roads region in connection with the
Governor’s authority to appoint citizens. She stated in addition, there is an Ex Officio
non-voting appointee by the Governor who is not a cabinet member but is the
Governor’s Assistant for Commonwealth Preparedness. She said that person may
serve as an Ex Officio non-voting member of the Board. She said if you hear it is a
twelve member body they are including the Ex Officio position but there are only eleven
voting members.
Mayor Ward asked if that directly affects the petition Council received because they are
asking Council to change the law. In response, the City Attorney said she believes it
absolutely does and she knows that was the intent of the FMFADA and its legal counsel
in drafting this bill was to negate any continuing affect of the City of Hampton’s
ordinance that created the original body, the FMFADA.
Councilman Washington asked if Council is going to receive a report. In response, the
City Attorney said she would be glad to provide Council a memo that restates the
composition and a copy of the Bill.
Mayor Ward said a copy of the Bill is pretty straightforward.
The City Attorney said Mayor Ward was referred to the petition effort.
Mayor Ward said the petition asked Council to change the ordinance and this takes the
City’s ability to enact the ordinance away.
The City Attorney said it takes the City’s power away to affect the policies and the
structure of this entity that has succeeded to the entity the City created.
Councilman Washington asked if the City would still have two representatives on the
Board. In response, Mayor Ward said that was correct and they can be elected officials
and they will have votes. She said currently Vice Mayor Spencer and Councilman
Wallace have not been able to vote.
FEMA
Councilwoman Leary said she understands that the Federal Emergency Management
Agency (FEMA) has taken a position that they will not be renting any space in facilities
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or building anything less than a 10 foot flood zone. She said she would like to know if
that applies to Fort Monroe or Langley Air Force Base (LAFB). She said she knows it
applies to the Harbor Center because she believes they are three inches shy. She said
she would like to know more about that as soon as possible.
Councilwoman Leary said she was approached by a group of citizens about the
historical markers and she is going to put the information in an e-mail. She requested
that a staff member be assigned to assist her.
Closed Meeting
3. 10-0091 Closed session as provided in Virginia Code Section 22.1-3711A.1, .3
and .7
APPROVED
Ayes: 6 - Ross A. Kearney, II, Angela Lee Leary, Joseph H. Spencer, II,
George E. Wallace, Paige V. Washington, Jr., Molly Joseph Ward
Nays: 0
APPROVED
Motion made by: Councilmember Ross A. Kearney, II
Seconded by: Councilmember Paige V. Washington, Jr.
Aye: 6 - Ross A. Kearney, II, Angela Lee Leary, Joseph H. Spencer, II,
George E. Wallace, Paige V. Washington, Jr., Molly Joseph Ward
Nay: 0
. 10-0098 to discuss the acquisition and/or disposition of real property for a public
purpose in the North Hampton and Downtown areas of the city where
discussion in open session would adversely affect the bargaining position
or negotiating strategy of the city.
NO ACTION REQUIRED
. 10-0099 to consult with legal counsel and staff briefing pertaining to actual
litigation where such consultation in open session would adversely affect
the negotiating or litigating posture of the city.
NO ACTION REQUIRED
. 10-0107 to consult with legal counsel employed by the City regarding specific legal
matters pertaining to dredging and requiring the provision of legal advice
NO ACTION REQUIRED
. 10-0112 to discuss candidates for city awards
NO ACTION REQUIRED
. 10-0086 to consider appointments to the Hampton-Newport News Community
Services Board
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NO ACTION REQUIRED
. 10-0089 to consider appointments to the Industrial Development Authority
NO ACTION REQUIRED
. 10-0106 to consider appointments to the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board.
NO ACTION REQUIRED
. 10-0108 to consider appointments to the Debt Set-Off Review Panel
NO ACTION REQUIRED
. 10-0109 to consider appointments to the Finance Committee
NO ACTION REQUIRED
. 10-0110 to consider appointments to the Fort Monroe Federal Area Development
Authority
NO ACTION REQUIRED
Certification
4. 10-0090 Resolution Certifying Closed Session
WHEREAS, the City Council of the City of Hampton, Virginia, has convened a
closed session on this date pursuant to an affirmative recorded vote made in accordance
with the provisions of the Virginia Freedom of Information Act; and
WHEREAS, Section 2.2-3712D of the Code of Virginia requires a certification by
the City Council of the City of Hampton, Virginia, that such closed meeting was
conducted in conformity with Virginia Law;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the City Council of the City of
Hampton, Virginia, hereby certifies that, to the best of each member’s knowledge, (i)
only public business matters lawfully exempted from open meeting requirements by
Virginia law were discussed in the closed session to which this certification resolution
applies, and (ii) only such public business matters as were identified in the motion
convening the closed meeting were heard, discussed, or considered by the city council
of the city of Hampton, Virginia.
APPROVED
Motion made by: Councilmember Ross A. Kearney, II
Seconded by: Councilmember Joseph H. Spencer, II
Ayes: 6 - Ross A. Kearney, II, Angela Lee Leary, Joseph H. Spencer, II,
George E. Wallace, Paige V. Washington, Jr., Molly Joseph Ward
Nays: 0
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Adjournment
________________________
Molly Joseph Ward
Mayor
__________________________
Katherine K. Glass, CMC
Clerk of Council
Date approved by Council__________________________
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Agenda
City of Hampton, VA
22 Lincoln Street
Hampton, VA 23669
www.hampton.gov
Council Agenda
Wednesday, March 10, 2010
1:00 PM
Council Chambers, 8th Floor, City Hall
City Council
Randall A. Gilliland, Ross A. Kearney, II, Angela Lee Leary,
Joseph H. Spencer, II, George E. Wallace, Paige V.
Washington, Jr.,
Molly Joseph Ward, Mayor
Staff:
Mary Bunting, City Manager
Cynthia Hudson, City Attorney
Katherine K. Glass, Clerk of Council
Brenda J. Vaccarelli, Deputy Clerk
Last Published: 3/10/2010 10:00:44 AM
CALL TO ORDER
AGENDA
1. 10-0111 Budget Process Update
2. 10-0104 Briefing on Hampton's Response to the Request for Information Regarding
Google's Community Fiber Optic Project.
REGIONAL ISSUES
NEW BUSINESS
CLOSED MEETING
3. 10-0091 Closed session as provided in Virginia Code Section 22.1-3711A.1, .3 and .7
10-0098 to discuss the acquisition and/or disposition of real property for a public
purpose in the North Hampton and Downtown areas of the city where
discussion in open session would adversely affect the bargaining position or
negotiating strategy of the city.
10-0099 to consult with legal counsel and staff briefing petaining to actual litigation
where such consultation in open session would adversely affect the
negotiating or litigating posture of the city.
10-0107 to consult with legal counsel employed by the City regarding specific legal
matters pertaining to dredging and requiring the provision of legal advice
10-0112 to discuss candidates for city awards
10-0086 to consider appointments to the Hampton-Newport News Community Services
Board
10-0089 to consider appointments to the Industrial Development Authority
10-0106 to consider appointments to the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board.
10-0108 to consider appointments to the Debt Set-Off Review Panel
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10-0109 to consider appointments to the Finance Committee
10-0110 to consider appointments to the Fort Monroe Federal Area Development
Authority
CERTIFICATION
4. 10-0090 Resolution Certifying Closed Session
Contact Info:
Clerk of Council, 757-727-6315, council@hampton.gov
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