Town-Village Aircraft Safety & Noise Abatement Committee
Regular MeetingHempstead, NY · January 22, 2018
Minutes
TOWN-VILLAGE AIRCRAFT SAFETY & NOISE ABATEMENT COMMITTEE
ONE WASHINGTON STREET HEMPSTEAD 11550 (516) 489-3296
Town of MINUTES OF MEETING
HEMPSTEAD Meeting Date: January 22, 2018
Villages of
ATLANTIC BEACH In Attendance:
CEDARHURST
Carl Baessler, Village of Atlantic Beach
FLORAL PARK Kurt Langjahr, Village of New Hyde Park
Andrew Weiss, Village of Floral Park
GARDEN CITY
Laurence Quinn, Village of Garden City
HEWLETT NECK
LAWRENCE
In absence of an Executive Director, the meeting was called to order by
MALVERNE Committee member Carl Baessler. Mr. Baessler led the Committee and
audience members in the Pledge of Allegiance.
NEW HYDE PARK
STEWART Normally the Committee would approve the minutes of the prior meeting
(last meeting November 27, 2017) but as there was not a quorum present, no
MANOR action was taken regarding the prior meeting minutes.
VALLEY STREAM
Mr. Baessler invited Mr. Bill Huisman up to the podium to provide an update
WOODSBURGH regarding the most recent Technical Advisory Committee (TAC) meeting
concerning the John F. Kennedy (JFK) Airport 14 CFR Part 150 Study.
(Please note, the following is a summary of Mr. Huisman’s update, much of
this info comes from the JFK TAC Meeting Report provided on the Port
Authority of NY and NJ website.)
Mr. Huisman provided the following update regarding the most recent Part
150 Study TAC meeting of December 13, 2017 (JFK Airport)
Background regarding the Part 150 Study - The Port Authority has formed
a Technical Advisory Committee (TAC) to provide input into the 14 Code
of Federal Regulations (CFR) Part 150 Study for John F. Kennedy
International (JFK) and LaGuardia (LGA) Airports. The 14 CFR Part 150
Study will quantify existing and future aircraft noise exposure levels and
seek ways to minimize those impacts to the greatest extent practical
within 14 CFR Part 150 guidelines.
“Tighten SKORR” departure procedure - the intention of this procedure is
to direct aircraft to turn sooner when departing from Runway 31L and
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reduce overflight of the Howard Beach and Hamilton Beach neighborhoods (in
Queens).
Reduce Runway 31L intersection departures at night - this procedure involves
directing aircraft to use the full length of Runway 31L at night instead of
departing from the intersection of Runway 31L and Taxiway KD.
Combining the “Tighten SKORR” and “Reduce Runway 31L intersection
departures at night” strategies may provide additional benefits to the Howard
Beach neighborhood.
Turn Runway 22L/22R departures to Heading 240 at night - this proposed
strategy may enable aircraft to gain more altitude before overflying the
Rockaways and allow for overflight over land with lower population density.
Some common themes for noise abatement strategies at the airport that are not
recommended:
o Make the locations of departure paths consistent to minimize
concentration of flights over a specific area (equitable distribution).
o Simultaneous independent arrivals to Runway 22L/22R (shrink the DNL
65 contour over one neighborhood but increase it over another).
o Dispersal headings off Runway 4L (will increase noise over residential
neighborhoods).
o Descend to JFK over the Atlantic Ocean instead of flying north and
turning above the Long Island Sound (this strategy is unlikely to change
the DNL 65 contour).
o Implement a preferential nighttime runway use program to reduce
nighttime Runway 22L/22R arrivals (runway rotation is reviewed in
order of priority for runway rotation and selection every eight hours per
runway availability, prevailing wind and weather patterns, operational
efficiency and community noise concerns, in that order).
o Have pilots lower landing gear closer to the airport (not feasible because
final approach procedures such as landing gear and flaps are aircraft and
operator specific and the PANYNJ cannot mandate cockpit management
procedures).
o Raise fees for noise violations and use those fees for noise mitigation and
abatement (implementation of such a procedure is unlikely as a 14 CFR
Part 161 Study would be required).
o Aircraft technology changes (the PANYNJ does not have authority to
mandate specific technology upgrades for aircraft).
Upon completion of Mr. Huisman’s update (which was appreciated by all present),
several of the Committee members raised questions and/or further commented on
some of the points mentioned during Mr. Huisman’s update.
Member Baessler commented that some agencies utilize airport curfews as a means
to reduce Day Night Average Sound Levels (DNL). This can turn out to actually
negatively impact the surrounding communities as the sound levels during active
flight hours may be significantly higher than the 65 dB level but when averaged with
the curfew period, result in a DNL that meets the threshold.
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Member Langjahr commented that a recent Port Authority operational report
indicated a much greater frequency of departures from runway 31L. He also noted
that noise abatement strategy implementation is made more difficult in our area due
to the close proximity (within a 19 mile radius) of four (4) airports (John F.
Kennedy, LaGuardia, Newark and Teterboro).
Member Weiss commented that the majority of noise abatement strategies focused
on departures, not much contemplated for arrivals. He also questioned how the
potential strategy to have airplanes descend to JFK over the Atlantic Ocean instead
of flying north and turning above the Long Island Sound could be unlikely to change
the DNL 65 contour.
Member Quinn commented that noise abatement strategies that do not improve
conditions within the 65 dB contour will not be recommended as recommendations
of the Part 150 Study; however, the FAA is willing to discuss some of these
strategies outside of the framework of the Part 150 Study. This may need the
assistance of our Federal Government Officials.
At this time, Member Baessler, open the meeting to any questions from the public.
Mr Steven Siciliano requested further clarification regarding noise abatement
strategies which seem to make sense but are not recommended as a result of the Part
150 Study. Several of the Committee members clarified that noise abatement
strategies not recommended by the Part 150 Study could still be pursed with the help
of our federally elected representatives.
Member Langjahr made a motion to adjourn the meeting, which was seconded by
Member Baessler.
The next regularly scheduled TVASNAC meeting will be held on Monday February
26, 2018 at 7:00 pm at the Nathan L. Bennett Pavilion, Town Hall, One Washington
Street, Hempstead, New York.
Prepared By: Joseph L. Davenport
Secretary, TVANAC
January 25, 2018
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