Town-Village Aircraft Safety & Noise Abatement Committee
Regular MeetingHempstead, NY · February 26, 2018
Minutes
TOWN-VILLAGE AIRCRAFT SAFETY & NOISE ABATEMENT COMMITTEE
ONE WASHINGTON STREET HEMPSTEAD 11550 (516) 489-3296
Town of MINUTES OF MEETING
HEMPSTEAD Meeting Date: February 26, 2018
Villages of
ATLANTIC BEACH In Attendance:
CEDARHURST
Carl Baessler, Village of Atlantic Beach
FLORAL PARK Kurt Langjahr, Village of New Hyde Park
Andrew Weiss, Village of Floral Park
GARDEN CITY
Laurence Quinn, Village of Garden City
HEWLETT NECK Sean Wright, Village of Valley Stream
Akiva Lubin, Village of Lawrence
LAWRENCE
Larry Hoppenhauer, Village of Malvern
MALVERNE
NEW HYDE PARK
In absence of an Executive Director, the meeting was called to order by
STEWART Committee member Andrew Weiss. Mr. Weiss led the Committee and
audience members in the Pledge of Allegiance.
MANOR
VALLEY STREAM Kurt Langjahr noted the recent passing of Donald Barbieri, Trustee of the
Village of New Hyde Park. Mr. Langjhar proposed that the TVASNAC
WOODSBURGH meeting be held in honor of Trustee Barbieri. A motion was made by
Committee member Baessler to dedicate the February 26, 2018 TVASNAC
meeting in memory of Trustee Barbieri; the motion was seconded by
Committee member Langjahr. (Included as an attachment to these minutes is
a copy of the announcement of Trustee Barbieri’s passing as posted to the
Village of New Hyde Park website.)
The minutes of the prior meeting (January 22, 2018) were reviewed and a
motion made by Committee member Baessler to adopt the minutes. The
motion was seconded by Committee member Langjahr and approved by all
Committee members present.
Committee member Weiss introduced and invited the Hon. Brian Curran
(NYS Assembly District 21) to the podium to address the Committee.
Assemblyman Curran provided an update regarding legislation he is
sponsoring (A08283) which directs the NYS Department of Environmental
Conservation (DEC), with the assistance of the NYS Department of
Transportation (DOT), to conduct a study on the environmental and human
health impacts of John F. Kennedy international airport and LaGuardia
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airport. A full copy of the text of the proposed legislation is included as an
attachment to these minutes.
Assemblyman Curran noted that aircraft noise is not only a quality of life issue but
is also a health issue; though the actual science may not currently exist that proves
the health impacts. This legislation is intended to provide the scientific link between
aircraft noise and associated negative health impacts; and force the FAA and Port
Authority (PA) to take the issue more seriously.
Committee member Weiss asked Assemblyman Curran, if the legislation is passed
and the resulting study proves the connection between aircraft noise and negative
health impacts, what is the mechanism for forcing the FAA and PA to make
changes? Assemblyman Curran answered that it was possible that based upon the
study results, the NYSDEC could promulgate regulations regarding noise that the
FAA and PA must then comply with.
Committee member Hoppenhauer asked for clarification regarding the agency
proposed to conduct the study. Assemblyman Curran indicated that NYSDEC would
take the lead and work in conjunction with the NYSDOT. Assemblyman Curran
noted that his proposed legislation is modelled upon similar legislation that is
nearing passage in the state of Illinois (HB3248 – AIRPORTS ENVIRONMENTAL
IMPACT).
Committee member Langjahr asked several questions, including: if noise is a known
fact, why the study is needed (Hon. Curran response that the direct scientific link
does not exist); will the proposed study conflict with the ongoing Part 150 study
(Hon. Curran response was no, there would not be a conflict, the proposed study is
to consider health effects); and, requested that a copy of the proposed legislation be
provided to NYS Senator Elaine Phillips (Hon. Curran said he would provide a copy
to her office).
Committee member Weiss thanked Assemblyman Curran for the update and taking
the time to attend the TVASNAC meeting.
Committee member Weiss than asked Mr. Bill Huisman to the podium to provide an
update regarding general matters as concerns the Technical Advisory Committee
(TAC) and the John F. Kennedy (JFK) Airport 14 CFR Part 150 Study.
Mr. Huisman provided the following informational update:
JFK Master Plan Update: still in the early stages of the Master Plan
development, i.e. figuring out how to take the Advisory Panels January 4,
2017 recommendations to the Governor (the Vision) and turn it into an
implementable plan. PA has retained the services of Mott MacDonald to
assist in that process and of late have been focused on updating standards,
untangling on paper the Central Terminal Area roadway network, meeting
and collaborating w/ both the MTA and NYSDOT on airport access
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improvements and also in early dialog with the terminal operators and
airlines on possible individual development proposals that are consistent
with the Vision. We are also keeping a tight rein on the $1B that is in the
Port Authority's approved 10 year Capital Plan. There is a lot of
infrastructure to address (roadways, utilities, parking, security) and limited
dollars in the bank. The answer if questioned about aeronautical
improvements, like a new runway, the answer is not no, it's that the $1B
certainly doesn't cover it, so there is obviously nothing in the short term
(next 5 to 7 years) plans that would suggest it. But as the Master Plan
evolves, we will have a better understanding of what is needed to continue
JFK's growth
Regarding the Master Plan, Committee member Hoppenhauer asked if there
was an established deadline for completion. Mr. Huisman responded that
there was not.
Eastern Regional Helicopter Council (ERHC) “Fly Neighborly Program”
Kick-Off Meeting is Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at the Melville Marriott
(1350 Old Walt Whitman Road, Melville, NY 11747) from 9 am to 12 noon.
Attendees will include ERHC member operators, airport managers, FAA,
community members and elected officials to discuss helicopter noise
abatement procedures for upcoming summer 2018 season.
FAA Funding Cuts: The Trump Administration's FY2019 budget will cut
funding to the NextGen upgrade program from $1.1B to $952M. The
Aerospace Industries Assoc. has urged Congress to reject the FY2019 budget
for FAA and request reinstatement of former estimate of $1.1B.
Additionally, the FAA's research and development program for NextGen
Environmental Research, Aircraft Technologies, Fuels & Metrics would be
reduced from $27.2M to $7.6M.
FAA Urged to reanalyze noise impact of RNAV departure on historic
district. The Advisory Council on Historic Preservation (ACHP)
recommended in a recent advisory opinion that FAA should reanalyze and
address the noise effects of a controversial RNAV departure procedure out of
LaGuardia Airport on homes listed on the National Register of Historic
Places and should initiate a Section 106 consultation process under the
National Historic Preservation Act. ACHP is an independent federal agency
that serves as the primary federal policy advisor to the President and
Congress on historic preservation. FAA had issued a CATEX (categorical
exclusion) under the National Environmental Policy Act for the NextGen
departure procedure out of LaGuardia, known as TNNIS FOUR, because
FAA's noise analysis indicated that the Broadway- Flushing Historic District
would not experience a significant increase in noise or be added to the DNL
65 dB contour. But FAA did not initiate a Section 106 consultation process
under the National Historic Preservation Act for the TNNIS departure
procedure. TNNIS FOUR was implemented in 2012 and moved aircraft
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over parts of the New York City Borough of Queens and the Broadway-
Flushing Historic District, a tranquil, tree-lined community of over 1,700
homes, almost all over 100 years old and of notable architecture.
“In 2012, the FAA's decision to implement the NextGen flight pattern for
departures from LaGuardia Airport essentially took all the tranquility and
quiet away from a century old and historically recognized neighborhood,"
Maria R. Becce, vice president of the Broadway-Flushing Homeowners
Association, told the ACHP. "It was done without notification to anyone or
impact studies of any kind, other than the issuance of a CATEX. I can assure
you there has been a tremendous and unequivocal negative affect to the level
of noise, vibration, and general disruption since 2012."
The PA has retained a firm (headed by Former United States Secretary of
Transportation Ray Lahood) to review the issues experienced at JFK during
the early January 2018 snow storm.
Committee member Hoppenhauer asked if there was a timeframe for the
review. Mr. Huisman stated that there was not. Mr. Huisman provided
additional details regarding the PA’s use of private firms (“terminal
operators”) for the daily operation and maintenance of each airport terminal.
The terminal operators in turn lease/rent space within and adjacent to the
terminals to various vendors and airlines.
The update provided by Mr. Huisman’s was appreciated by all present.
At this time, Committee member Weiss, open the meeting to any questions from the
public. There were no questions from the public.
Committee member Hoppenhauer requested that an invitation be extended to the
Supervisor to attend a future TVASNAC meeting.
Member Langjahr made a motion to adjourn the meeting, which was seconded by
Member Baessler.
The next regularly scheduled TVASNAC meeting will be held on Monday March
26, 2018 at 7:00 pm at the Nathan L. Bennett Pavilion, Town Hall, One Washington
Street, Hempstead, New York.
Prepared By: Joseph L. Davenport
Secretary, TVANAC
March 17, 2018
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